Conference noted::bicycle

    Check the Performance and Nashbar catalogs...I believe that one (maybe
    both) of them carries Brooks saddles.
    

>    both) of them carries Brooks saddles.
    
Also, if you can't find your Brooks, might consider an Ideale saddle. 
These (used to be?) considered to be equivalent quality, with slightly 
pre-broken-in leather. Many riders preferred them to the Brooks as they 
didn't require as long to begin to be comfortable. Note that both Brooks 
and Ideale made some relatively schlocky models for mass produced 
lower-end bikes, don't waste your time with 'em.
                          ken

    Thanks!  I have Nashbar's phone number, does anyone have one for
    Performance?

    The number for Performance is 1-800-727-2453.
    
    Earl

    Thanks, folks  -  I'll try them today.

    	For hard to find saddles, try Cyclopedia in Michigan. Tell Gaylord
    I sent 'ya.  sorry, I don't have the number. - Chris

    --- .1 The latest Nashbar catalog has a picture where the Brooks saddle
           was in the previous catalog
    
    --- .3 Did they have any?
    
    --- .6 Is the Cyclopedia the same group that is/was in Minnesota?

I happen to have a Performance catalog here at work and they no longer carry
Brooks.  Sounds like your only option is to hunt around and find a shop that
used to carry them has still has one left.

    Well, I haven't gotten through to Nahbar yet (man, those guys mus be
    busy!), however, a VERY kind gentleman who has one & found it too
    uncomfortable to bear, is giving it to me!  Gee, ain't notes WONDERFUL!
    Now, I'm going around in circles trying to find a BELL Premier helmet &
    getting the same "they don't make them any more", which usually
    translates as "we don't have one in stock, so let us pawn off whatever
    we have on you."  I dunno, I guess I just must have a taste for the
    exotic!  However, I'm getting paranoid riding without a lid, so if I 
    don't find one today, I guess I'm just gonna have to settle for a
    Gyro Air Attack from Lincoln tomorow.  Oh well - can't always get what
    you want, but ya get what ya need.
    

    I spoke to someone at Bike Nashbar that sells the Bell Premier helmet
    They said that the reason that Bell isn't making the model available 
    (and probably won't) is due to the production runs failing the safety
    test. 
    
    I guess this means there won't be any available, unless someone
    straightens things out miraculously and beefs up the production AND
    distribution lines.
    
    	--Russ

    Thanks - I spend my lunch hour calling just about every shop in the
    area & got variations on the same theme - withdrawn from the market.
    Oh well.

     Go with the Air Attack... You'll love it!
    
      Chip

    Actually, that would have been my first choice, but when I tried it on
    I thought that that overhang in the back made me look like "Alien".  I
    suppose esthetic considerations will become insignificant if I find
    myself bouncing down the road on my head.

    re [.12] - you were right - this weekend I bought Air Attacks for my
    wife and I & they're terrific!  You actually forget you've got them on.

     Glad you like 'em. They are a little pricey, but they're ultra-
    lite, extremely well ventilated and it doesn't look like a salad
    bowl! Nice visible panels too.
    
     Chip

    re [.15] - Yea, and besides, it makes me look like LeMond

. . . in slow motion

. .  . wearing a fat suit
                         

>    re [.15] - Yea, and besides, it makes me look like LeMond
>. . . in slow motion
>. .  . wearing a fat suit
                         
Well, you're in luck! That's in style, remember how the press said 
LeMond (anyone remember back to when they used ta call him LeMonster?) 
was "fat and slow" early in the season? Just think of yourself as a 
"Spring LeMond".... :-)
                                      ken

    
    Meanwhile back at the *subject*.....if you can't find a
    Brooks and want the next best thing to it in a racing
    version try the Sella San Marco....it even has the big
    brass bolts in the back just like the brooks.  IMO this
    is the best looking saddle available today, but also one
    of the most uncomforatable...I switched back to my old
    Avocet Gel...just like putting on old loafers after taking
    off your track shoes......aaaahhhhhh.
    
    					_Jerry

    Angle Lake  Cyclery in Seattle says that they can still get Brooks
    saddles.  They  said  that the distribution channels are changing,
    but  they expect to be able to continue offering them. (Angle Lake
    is  a  dealer  for Counterpoint, Moulton, and probably other wierd
    bikes.)  Their  phone number is (206) 878-7457. I don't have their
    address handy.

--David

    Well re :[.18], I had already ordered a San Marco when I got a line on
    a Brooks and a Ideale.  I now have the Ideale on my road bike and
    absolutely love it. The brooks is slated from my mountain bike, since I
    don't generally ride it form more than 10 miles at a stretch.  I tried
    out the San Marco and found it reasonably comfortable.   What I didn't
    like about it is that it is not constructed like the traditional
    leather seats.  It has a plastic pan and leather covering, so there's
    really nothing to break in.  Seems like it would have all of the
    disadvantages of a leather seat without the anticipated advantage of a
    personalized fit in the future.  Sure looks good, though.  My wife took
    it, but it now looks like she's going to whimp out and buy a gelseat.
    
    							Joe

    Hmm, got the Brooks last week gave it a good application of neets foot
    oil, & tried it out on my road bike on Saturday.  After a 54.3 mile
    ride (my longest to date), I can not believe that SO many people find
    these saddles uncomfortable!  Without even being broken it I found it
    extremely comfortable - even more so than the Ideale, which now graces
    my commuter.  Ah well, different strokes & all that . . .