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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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Total number of notes:31946

1406.0. "Hazards of Long Distance Cycling" by MUSKIE::FASS () Wed Jan 10 1990 16:03

    	Story in the Saturday, Jan 6, 1990  /MILWAUKEE SENTINEL/
    
    	Doctors K.M. Desai and J.C.Gingell, in the article "Hazards
    of Long Distance Cycling," warn that prolonged cycling may cause
    a condition of temporary erectile impotence. They cite a case of
    a 27-year-old cyclist who experienced a total loss of erections
    for weeks following a two-day, 209-kilometer race.
    
    	Symptoms of pain and urinary urgency also were noted. The condition
    gradually improved over a three-month period and full potency was
    recovered. the explanation offered is that the position of the body
    on the hard bicycle seat for a long period of time compressed the
    penis , diminishing the blood flow to the nerves and causing a loss
    of function.
    
    	It's possible, the authors speculate, that this condition may
    be more common in cyclists than previously thought.
    
    		Originally reported in the British Medical Journal.
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1406.1THEY'RE WHERE YOU FIND 'EMWMOIS::C_GIROUARDWed Jan 10 1990 16:1914
     I would suggest that these are isolated "specific to individual"
    cases. As long as cycling has been around and as popular as it's
    become over the past 10 years, this would have been heavily pub-
    licized. Many of the world's top riders (or their wives) would have
    had difficulty with family establishment.
    
     By no means am I knocking the Milwaukee Sentinel. I just think that
    "studies" are often not worth the paper they shared on (even as
    cheap as news paper is).
    
     I guess erections are where you find them. The other thing that
    baffles me is that 209 kil.'s isn't all that demanding as long as
    you're fitted properly to the equipment. Hey, maybe a bicycle with
    a rumble seat or running board??? :-)
1406.2grain of saltSHALOT::ELLISJohn Lee Ellis - assembly requiredWed Jan 10 1990 16:506
    
    I echo Chip's sentiment.  Especially since even a 209km *one* day
    race wouldn't be out of the ordinary for lots of "potent" cyclists.
    This really sounds like a special case.
    
    -john
1406.3_Bicycling_ magazine, take note!DEBUG::SCHULDTI'm Occupant!Wed Jan 10 1990 17:242
    It's hard to reconcile this item with the article in Bicycling magazine
    a couple months back....
1406.4Maybe it's what your sitting on!TRCO01::OSTROWSKIAll cycled upWed Jan 10 1990 18:1310
    I have never had a problem riding my own bike, but have had the
    feeling of an electrical current going through my manhood for up
    to an hour after riding the Lifecycle. I think a lot of this has
    to do with the type of seat on the Lifecycle which is much wider
    than the normal racing style of seat!
    
    Goodbye and thanks for all the Fish !
    
    Gerry O
     
1406.51 solution: recumbents!KOOZEE::PAULHUSChris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871Thu Jan 11 1990 14:354
    	If the article were valid, it might be another reason to push for
    recumbents...  But, as mentioned, it's specific to individuals, and
    possibly only to those with mis-adjusted seats.
    	- riding in comfort, Chris
1406.6There's a lesson here ...TOOK::R_WOODBURYdon't you know, I'm a 2000 man?Thu Jan 11 1990 16:1311
    
>>>    the explanation offered is that the position of the body
>>>    on the hard bicycle seat for a long period of time compressed the
>>>    penis , diminishing the blood flow to the nerves and causing a loss
>>>    of function.
    
    I guess the lesson here is to never sit on a penis while riding a
    bicycle (at least not for "long periods of time").
    
    -RW
    
1406.7GOOD ANSWER...WMOIS::C_GIROUARDFri Jan 12 1990 14:456
    Re; .6 response: I love it! I wouldn't want to sit on mine or anyone's
                     on or off a bike, for that matter!! :-)
    
                     Critical lesson...
    
                 The random Chip
1406.8Hey ChipWECARE::PAMMERWed Jan 17 1990 10:5110
    Good one Chipper!
    
    If the guy was sitting on his penis, one might ask if there was
    something wrong BEFORE the race.  For all we know, his girlfriend
    may be a Dairy-Queen.  There's the reason for everything!
    
    I've learned a hard lessen here was well!....
    
    enjoying rides (on AND off the bike),
    Jim
1406.9definitely the saddleORCHRD::GARABEDIANThu Jan 18 1990 10:506
    
    It is definitely the saddle. I have had some numbness (didnt matter
    how many miles) and it is definitely the saddle. Looks like a case
    of a newspaper/reporter not doing the homework.
    
    Harry
1406.10Cosmo tells allWAV12::DELORIEAWork starts Jan 8thThu Jan 18 1990 13:3013
All jokes aside, I think this does happen although not to the extent mentioned
in .0. During my one and only century ride of the year last year I had some
numbness in the aforementioned area. No I wasn't sitting on my unit. I noticed
when I had a call of nature. It answered my sitting vs standing on the hills
question. Sitting in the same position for a long period of time will shut off 
feeling and or blood supply to your leg, butt or crotch. Even if your sitting on
your favorite easy chair you'll find yourself changing your position every once
and a while. I first heard about a story similar to .0 in a motorcycling mag.
It was the guys butt that lost feeling for months from a cross country ride on
his motorcycle. I'm sure a recumbent rider will have to admit that his behind
will get sore/numb after a couple of hours straight in the saddle. 

Tom
1406.11distributed pressure = comfort!ENGINE::PAULHUSChris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871Thu Jan 18 1990 14:449
    re. last  'recumbent riders...'   NOT SO!!  I have a tender tail -
    that's why I ride a recumbent. I have never had a sore tail for any
    ride up to centuries. (Exception: when the webbing in the seat sagged
    and I was partially supported by the 'top tube' which runs under the
    seat - that did get sore, real quick.)  There is enough flex in the
    buttocks due to pedaling motion, and enough support by the seat, so
    that a proper recumbent seat (I've seen some with hard plastic seats:
    No Thanks!) can be sat in for 8 or 9 hours without tail soreness. Your
    legs will be wiped out with fatigue, but your tail will be OK. - Chris
1406.1250+ C's in '89, dozen or so doubs.BANZAI::FISHERPat PendingThu Jan 18 1990 18:468
    I never had a century or longer [or shorter] ride cause the problem
    cited.  There must be something more to it than length of the time in
    the saddle.
    
    Perhaps after 600 or so consecutive miles I didn't care whether or not
    things were functioning, but they were ok.
    
    ed
1406.13size not timeMASTER::MBELISLEDTN 292-2140Fri Jan 19 1990 14:069
    
    	Hey, your right ed, there is something more to it then length
    of the time in the saddle... 
    
    Let's just leave it to the imagination.  8#)
    
    Mike