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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1362.0. "THREADS AND WHICH ONES" by WMOIS::C_GIROUARD () Tue Nov 07 1989 11:28

     Here's one I couldn't find - THREADS!
    
      What is the threading used by the following manufacturers and please
     feel free to add mfg's that I've left out. This will help those of us
     if we begin to think about changes in components, frames and their
     compatibility.
    
        CANNONDALE       PINARELLO       BASSO       KESTRAL      FUJI
    
        PEUGOT           BIANCI          PANASONIC   SCHWINN      GIANT
    
        SHOGUN           CENTURION       LOTUS       KLEIN        MIYATA
        
        SPECIALIZED      GREGG LEMOND    COLUMBIA    GIORDANA     TOMMASO
    
        FIORE            UNIVEGA         COLNAGO     GUERCIOTTI   TREK
    
        GITANE           EDDY MERCKX     DEROSA      BOTTECHIA    ROSSIN 
    
        VITUS            RALEIGH         MOTTA       MASI         FUSO
    
        SCAPIN           ATALA           ZINN        CONCORDE     GIOS
    
        
    
    
       That's it!
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1362.1I have some of those.NOVA::FISHERPat PendingTue Nov 07 1989 11:5619
    Speaking, well, ah, err, writing, for the specimens which are or have
    lived in my stable:
    
    Guerciotti, Ciocc, Masi, Paletti and some, but not all, Bianchis
    are Italian.
    
    Serotta, Trek, Nashbar, Univega, Fuji, Cannondale, Santana  and some,
    but not all, Bianchis are English.
    
    I am certain I could make 95% correct guesses on the rest but it's
    all based on "Made in Italy => Italian" "Made in Japan, USA, England
    => English" "Made in France => French" "Made in Switzerland => don't
    try a guess"  Off hand I don't know about the Austrian bikes
    (Puch and A-D) but I could look it up.
    
    I always use English freewheels on my Italian hubs anyway (class B
    fit).
    
    ed
1362.2Go to the sourceCHEOPE::JOHNSONMatt Johnson, DTN 871-7473Tue Nov 07 1989 18:254
    I imagine that checking in Sutherland's might be a more efficient
    way to get the information.  
    
    MATT
1362.3different questionNOVA::FISHERPat PendingTue Nov 07 1989 19:0612
    RE: .2:  On the contrary, Sutherland's does not address the question
    of .0, in the manner of "Fuji does this and Ciocc does that."  It
    primarily address the technical description of what different parts
    look like and what "Italian/English/French threads" means in the
    context of the various parts.  One way or another it gives the rule of
    thumb that I typed in .1.  It also makes an effort at describing "Swiss
    threads" and their evolution.
    
    Now if you want a schematic of a coaster brake or a Sturmey Archer
    3 spd hub, that's the best place to go.
    
    ed
1362.4Sutherland's is the best place to startDECWET::BINGHAMJohnWed Nov 08 1989 04:248
    Sutherland's does discuss the difference in threads among the countries
    and the conventions for left/right handed threads.
    
    A good thread gauge can tell the difference.  There are mixed gauges
    that have metric, American in the same set.
    
    A given name brand can have different threads depending on where the
    frame was built.
1362.5More manufacturers...JGO::MELOWENDWed Nov 08 1989 06:2511
    I would like some manufacturers :
    
    LOOK 	(French)
    ALAN	(French ?)	
    GAZELLE 	(Dutch)
    BATAVUS	(Dutch)
    PRESTO   	(Dutch)   
    GIOVANNI	(Italian)
    
    Tonnie Wiegman
    
1362.6TALLIS::JBELLPersonna Au GratinWed Nov 08 1989 11:589
    In fact, Sutherland's lists about 240 different brands.
    I had never heard of Autrian threads.

    In any case, which would you trust, something you read in a 
    or what the thread measurement says.

    -Jeff Bell


1362.7You should get your local library to get a Sutherland's for referenceNOVA::FISHERPat PendingWed Nov 08 1989 12:1018
    Sutherland's does list brands?  I must have missed it :-).  I have the
    blue and the red editions (I think they are 3rd and 4th).  The latest
    edition (which I don't have) tells you everything you ever wanted to
    know about indexed shifting.  I didn't say there were Austrian threads. 
    The Austrians are smart enough to know that for their bikes to be
    competitive in the world they should use an existing standard, as have
    the Dutch.  I don't know what they did select though.
    
    Does anyone remember the poll that Bicycling did a few years back? 
    they had a question like this:
    
    Do you think that by the year 2000 there will be a single standard for
    all bike components?
    A) Yes.
    B) No.
    C) Yes, except for the French.
    
    ed