Conference noted::bicycle

    Re Women's seat
    
    I don't see any reason why she shouldn't use her old seat if that's
    the way she's most comfortable.  However, as she begins riding more
    and slims down a bit (Isn't she also loosing weight?) she may be
    more comfortable on the Avocet saddle.
    
    You may want to try buying her a Spenco seat cover to go over her
    Avocet saddle.  She may find that just as comfortable as her older
    saddle.
    
    	-Nancy

    	RE: 1286.0
    
    	I also have trouble finding cycling shorts that fit. So, I
    	just go to my local bike shop and try on the largest sizes
    	they carry. Eventually, you should be able to find something
    	that fits relatively well.
    
    	By the way, if you've never worn cycling shorts, it's like
    	wearing nothing. That's the way it's supposed to be, so don't
    	let it bother you.
    
    	Scott

    	An alternate to off-the-rack shorts is having a pair or two
    made for you by one of the many small businesses that do custom
    bicycling clothing.  Contact your local supplier.  In E. Mass, Jones
    Cyclewear is great for doing custom fitted bike gear.  - Chris

    Cannondale used to (4 years ago?) make "touring shorts" (they look
    almost  like normal shorts with pockets, but are chamois lined) in
    sizes  up  to  48" or so. I don't find them comfortable in warm or
    hot weather, but you might try them.

--David

    Well, I've gotten some varying opinions that different shorts vary
    widely in their actual size.  I'll wander to some of the local bike
    shops and try a bunch of different shorts.  Maybe I can find something
    that fits my still somewhat rotund frame!
    
    thanks for the advice,
    Dave 

    re .3
    
    What a good idea.  Anyone know of a place in the Colorado Springs
    area that would do this.  It would save me about 2 hours with a
    seam ripper every time I buy new shorts (the lining and padding
    causes discomfort)
    
    Thanks,
    Mark

    Gee, you can buy non-padded ones in just about every sports, clothing
    and department store these days.  Now they are even on summer
    clearance!
    
    Elaine
    

    Mark, you might post this in the COLORADO_BICYCLING notes conference.

    TYFYS::COLORADO_BICYCLING

    You might tend to get a quicker answer on COLORADO SPRINGS related
    questions.

    Now as to this question,  there are 2 places that make custom sports tights
    and ice skating costumes on south Tejon.

    FASHIONS FOR ATHLETES   -  1627 S. Tejon  633-4649
    UNIQUE SKATE WEAR       -  1526 S. Tejon  520-9526

    You might also call Criterium or Old Town bike shops and see if they
    know of anyone in town that makes custom shorts.  There used to be
    another place on Circle where I had a pair of shorts repaired a couple
    years ago but they have gone out of business.  It was a Jazzersize
    appearal shop.  So don't simply think of bike shops as the only place
    to look.
    
    
    

    An update just in case there is anybody else in need of EXTRA LARGE
    bike shorts...  
    
    I went out to one of the local "high-end" bike shops... BIG MISTAKE. 
    When they say a bike short is a 36-38 IT IS!!!!!!!!  About as big
    around as my leg!  So, I tried one of the sporting goods stores.  After
    I got past all the REALLY macho stuff like mountain bikes in camoflage
    colors with GUN RACKS on the handlebars, I found the bike shorts.
    
    Lo and behold, they had several different ones that fit pretty well,
    and ranged from $19 to $50.  So, I got a pair of comfortable ones with
    padding and I've tried them a couple times.  Definitely more
    comfortable than the "sweat shorts" I had been wearing.  Wick moisture
    much better and helps keep the irritation of sensitive areas to a
    mimimum.  
    
    For anyone that is trying to go more than a couple miles I definitely
    recommend getting a decent pair of shorts.
    
    regards,
    Dave

    re .8
    
    Thanks for the info.  Yes, I should have put it in the CXO file
    but I spaced it.  Must be the altitude.  :-)
    
    I've tried some of the department store nonpadded "workout" shorts
    but haven't found any that fit as well as 6 or 8 pannel cycling
    shorts.  I'll keep looking though because "workout" shorts are less
    expensive than cycling shorts.
    
    Thanks,
    Mark
    

    Hi, 
    
    This is a note that is directed toward all those women cyclists
    out there...
    
    My SO has recently taken up cycling, both road and mtn.  She
    enjoys it very much, but her main qualm is with the seats.  
    She hates the racing style seats that I have on my various
    bikes because they cause undue pain in the area that I can't 
    speak of from experience.  The only way to make cycling more
    comfortable is to tip the seat down (fairly radically).
    
    I know that there is a growing number of seats and shorts 
    designed for women.  Does anyone have any first hand knowledge 
    with any of these?  Brands, descriptions, evaluations, etc would 
    be extremely helpful.  
    
    Thanks a bunch!
    
    -john

    Check out note 67 and all its replies (there are 79 replies, I think).

    It's all about saddles and shorts and salves and position and anything
    else you can do to keep your HBI (I think that stood for Human-Bike-
    Interface) area from hurting.

    - Diane