| T.R | Title | User | Personal
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| 1158.1 | IN SEARCH OF... | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Thu May 11 1989 11:16 | 6 |
| I agree, there should be one, but to date, haven't found one. I
just put an order in for a new set of wheels at NASHBAR and had
to talk to the manager of the "wheel building" dept. to have my
questions answered. Gotta be formulas somewhere.
Chip
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| 1158.2 | What I have used for 5 years | CIMAMT::CHINNASWAMY | OH Bother! | Thu May 11 1989 12:55 | 17 |
| How about we list what we are using and what problems we have had.
Kinda like the frame size survey:
Weight: 190 lbs.
Height: 6' 1"
Rims: Araya Aero
Hubs: Sansin?
Spokes: 14g, 3 cross, 36 spoke
I have never had a spoke break on me, even after the chain jumped the
freewheel. I do have to true my wheels slightly after a few hundred miles
but I can live with it. I have, however, bent two axles slightly. I presume
that my hubs are not of the highest quality.
Mano
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| 1158.3 | (Yawn) Time to Build the Wheeeeels... | SUSHI::KMACDONALD | Is there life after drywall? | Thu May 11 1989 13:31 | 24 |
| Just me...
Weight: 210 lbs.
Height: 6' 5"
Rims: Arc en Ciel, GP40, Monthlery, various other
sewup/clincher rims
Hubs: Campag Record HF, Campag Track, Sunshine, Phil Wood
Spokes: 36 spoke, 3 cross, 14/15 DB and 15/16 DB
Not many problems over the years, altho I've got some 15 year old wheels
that are sort of falling apart. Had some breakage with the Track wheel
and the Sunshine (cheapo) hubs. The cheapos had kinda nasty spoke holes
and the track wheels just took a pounding commuting. Haven't had any other
breakage problems to speak of since I went to DB spokes. Favorite spokes
thru the years have been the Robergel 3-Star, but next wheels will be
built with some DT's; no prior experience. Have had pretty fair luck
with Berg and Union spokes, but the 3-star's are just nicer.
BTW, my experience with DB spokes is to get them SMALLER than the
straight gauge - i.e. I was having trouble with 14 SG's so I went to
14/15 DB's and the problem went away. My theory was that the DB's had a
bit more flexibility and resilience due to the thinner center section.
Who nose :-).
ken
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| 1158.4 | Another data point | TALLIS::JBELL | Ceci n'est pas une pipe. | | Thu May 11 1989 15:49 | 32 |
| Weight: ~240 lbs + about 15 lbs in the panniers (30 when on a tour)
Rims: Wolber 58 supergentleman 27x1-1/4
Hubs: Specialized sealed bearing
Spokes: DT Stainless 36 spoke, 3 cross, 14 gauge, laced by me,
symmetric lacing with the pulling spokes on the inside.
6000 miles with no broken spokes and only minor truing until last week
when the chain went into the spokes (I replaced the 9 affected).
The most important factor in determining the longevity of a wheel is
how it was tensioned. For that reason I question the usefullness
of this survey. Spoking pattern doesn't make a huge difference.
When I built the wheel, I went by Jobst Brant's book. He recommends
tightening the spokes until the rim starts to warp, and then backing
off a half turn. On a wolber 58 rim, this gives VERY tight spokes.
Remember, spokes don't break due to overload, they break from fatigue.
Spokes in loose wheels will break first.
My bike originally came with terrible wheels. I lost 2 spokes a month,
and then lost 2 at the same time. I immediately turned homeward
and bought new spokes on the way. With properly tensioned spokes,
I had no breaks.
Use stainless steel spokes and oil the threads. You do want to
be able to true it later.
-Jeff
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| 1158.5 | Another Source of Info | ANT::CRITCHLOW | | Thu May 11 1989 17:13 | 10 |
| I saw in the June issue of Bicycling Mag last night an add for a PC
based program that interactivley helps you decide the right parameters
for spokes, rims and hubs. It has a data base with the various products
on the market. New brands can be added. It will tell you what length
spokes to buy etc. I don't recall the price. I don't think it was cheap.
JC
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| 1158.6 | ONLY 166LBS. | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Fri May 12 1989 10:30 | 20 |
| Here's my stats & stuff:
Weight: 166lbs. to 168lbs.
TRAINING/RIDING
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Rims: MA40's 700x20c - 36 hole
Tires: Avocet K20's
Hubs: Campy Chorus
Spokes: straight 14/15/14 - triple crossed - stainless DT's
TT's/CITIZENS (some)
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Rims: MAVIC OPEN 4CD's 700x20c - 32 hole rear/28 hole front
Tires: Avocet K30's
Hubs: Campy C Record
Spokes: 14/15/14 (rear) & 15/16/15 (front) triple crossed
stainless DT's
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