Conference noted::bicycle

< Note 1064.0 by MCIS2::DELORIEA "Common sense isn't" >
                        -< Corporate Cycling Challenge >-

I saw this too, and am somewhat interested.  Did you call them, and could you 
post more info?  I believe it was 4 person teams.  At $200, that $50 per 
rider.  That's pretty steep... what does one get for it?  

I imagine there might be a number of riders in New England interested in the 
Boston event.  Can more than one team be entered?  If not, how would we go 
about selecting a team, assuming more than 4 riders wanted to do it?  Have 
tryouts?

Kevin

ps.  Are there age groups?  

re>>                            -< Tell us more... >-
    
>>I saw this too, and am somewhat interested.  Did you call them, and could you 
>>post more info?  I believe it was 4 person teams.  At $200, that $50 per 
>>rider.  That's pretty steep... what does one get for it?  

Ya, BUT... IF (big if) enough of the monies are going to charity then
(according to a community relations person) then we pay half.
I talked with the person at the 800 number and he said that SOME of the monies
are going towards charity(not yet chosen).

>>I imagine there might be a number of riders in New England interested in the 
>>Boston event.  Can more than one team be entered?  If not, how would we go 
>>about selecting a team, assuming more than 4 riders wanted to do it?  Have 
>>tryouts?

Yes, more than one team can be entered into this event.

>>ps.  Are there age groups?  
  
No, but there are 12 catagories one for each type of company.  Also there are
two divisions, 1 is two or more woman, 2 is three or more men.

You get a medallion and a T-shirt for entering. I'll be getting a couple of
packages of material. I'll forward them to interested TEAM Leaders.

I'll post any info when I get it.

Tom 

>                                                   So if there is anyone
> interested in having jerseys made or how to go about using DIGITAL's name I
> have the coporate contacts needed to OK it.

I am VERY interested in getting one of those DIGITAL jerseys made.

Though I cannot enter the time trial ( impossible to afford $50 plus air ! ),
I'd like to have one.  Let me know if you decide to make some.


Tak,  
Tokyo Financial district

    I am VERY interested also.  We have a few riders here in the MAA.
    If it's possible to get a "Digital Jersy", let me know.
    
    Marty

    Like Tak, I can't afford the $50 plus airfare, but I would be
    interested in a jersey.  There may be others 'down here'.
    
    Keep us posted.
    
    Richard

    Please don't forget your European participants either. I know several
    people in the neighborhood (southern England) who would be very
    interested in a Digital jersey. Me, for example. Think of the
    advertising value; I do 50 km. to work and back. Perhaps we could
    get Digital to pay us on a mileage basis for the commercials. 8')

I was out doing some spring skiing thats why I didn't reply earlier.
I can have DIGITAL bike jerseys made!!! It's just a matter of money.
How much do you want to spend? I was thinking aroung $30 a piece, for
colored COOLMAX three pocket shirts, with the logo on the front and back.
What else do we want on the shirts??? What color??? Do I have enough people
that will buy them, so I won't get stuck???

This is my idea of the jersey.

COOLMAX (or some other washable fabric)
Gray sleeves and side pannels
White front and back
|D|I|G|I|T|A|L| 
   BIKE CLUB   (?) on chest and back

   any other ideas...
				 ___
			       / dec \
                                |   |
                                |   |

Tom

    There was a nive little dec bike club logo that might go well
    somewhere.  (sleeves?)
    
    ed

< Note 1064.7 by MCIS2::DELORIEA "Common sense isn't" >
                                -< Jersey News >-

If you can get 'em for around $30, count me in.  Size med.

Kevin

>>    There was a nive little dec bike club logo that might go well
>>    somewhere.  (sleeves?)
    
    ed,
	Explain...please.

	I would assume Ed is talking about the bike club T-shirts
	from when the bike club last actually met.  (Kathy N., are
	there STILL some left?)  I pulled one out of my desk and will
	try to describe it.

	On the front (sort-of where a pocket would be) is a lower-case
	"dec" with spokes in the "d" and the "c".  The "d" also has
	a little flag (as a quarter-note) to represent handlebars,
	and, above the "c", what looks like a seat.

	On the back is the familiar "digital in little boxes" logo
	(without the "TM"!) near the top (centered left/right),
	two bicyclists silhouetted in the middle, and "Bicycle Club"
	below.

	If you want, I'll try to photocopy the shirt and send it
	interoffice...

	Kathy, who did the graphics for those things and how?  Is
	there a "master silkscreen" floating around somewhere?

>>	I would assume Ed is talking about the bike club T-shirts
>>	from when the bike club last actually met.  (Kathy N., are
>>	there STILL some left?)  I pulled one out of my desk and will
>>	try to describe it.
    
	OH YA, Those baseball shirt excuses of a bike club jersey ;^)
	
	I don't know what happened to mine, can you send me a copy. We can
	probably use the dec bike part.

	What else sould we have on the jersey? How about covering the jersey
	with a wild, bit map paint scheme ;^)
        
	Or...DIGITAL Bytes Club... No, I don't think so... ;^)
        The company that I called already does work for DEC so they have the
	logo screens made, so it shouldn't cost AS much as a cold start. 
	
	Tom

	BTW Kathy Norton is out for six months on maternity.

    Unfortunately, you can't legally make jerseys with the DIGITAL
    logo on them.  DIGITAL closes guards the use of their logo.  
    They only allow it on approved articles.
    
    How do you get approved?  You have a club, with officers, regular
    meetings, and events.  You collect dues, and stay together for
    a reasonable period of time.  Then DEC will consider giving you
    permission to use the logo on club members' clothing.
    
    There's a special employee activities organization that manages
    all this.  I can't remember the name of the person, but if
    you look at the note called TEAM DIGITAL very early in this
    conference, you can track down all this junk again.
    
    MATT

    
    	Put me down for an Extra Large (I wish it were a medium) shirt
    with an unregistered logo and a Big DEC Bike Club emblem.
    	
    						Jerry
    
    BTW....when are we going to get a registered club trade mark :-)

I would like the jersey to be European pro-team looking with the "official"

DIGITAL logos.  I mean the ierseys to look like team jerseys rather than  

club jerseys.  Those are for TTT, right ?  Am I going to the wrong direction ?

Anyway, whatever the jerseys will look like, I want one.  Small.

I don't mind paying $30 + shipping ( and even handling ).  


Tak

I was talking to the LICENSED Digital vendor yesterday, this is the poop...

The jerseys are going to be three pocket BIKE jerseys made out of a cycling
fabric. I hope to get a nice two color jersey with the logo on the front and
back with BIKE CLUB or something like that. He is going to get back to me on
the price (I told him I want to keep it around $30-$40). He'll get me the
samples and if all goes well the jerseys will be ready by the end of May.

When I get more info I'll post it. Also, when we're READY TO ORDER I'll make up
an order form and send it out to those who want to order a jersey. They'll be
at cost.

    How about a little more color.  White and grey is a bit dull!

RE>                                -< More color? >-

  >  How about a little more color.  White and grey is a bit dull!

Great! What's your idea of the Digital Bike Club jersey.

I was hoping for some input...

    RE.18,  I'll add my .02.  How about Blue and white?  Isn't that
    usually the color scheme DEC uses with their logo in advertisements
    and on TV?  Blue and white still won't knock your socks off in these
    days of pastels and neon, but it's a bit more color than grey and 
    white.  Maybe a fade from blue to white or vice versa?
    
    If the distributor has different fabrics, how about choosing COOLMAX
    or WICKTEC or some other good high tech low sweat fabric?  
    
    I also like the idea of DEC on the shoulder or upper sleeve.
             
    

    pink on grey

< Note 1064.20 by WITNES::HANNULA "Cat Tails & Bike Wheels Don't Mix" >
                               -< my color vote >-

>    pink on grey

Lets stick to corporate colors.  Blue and white is fine by me.

Kevin

To bad we aren't using Chinese Red any more.

> To bad we aren't using Chinese Red any more.

Maybe this our chance to recycle the VMS 4 doc set binders.

-Jeff

> < Note 1064.19 by IAMOK::WESTER >

All of your ideas are great !

Tak

    Blue and white is better that grey and white.  Logo on the shoulder
    sounds good also.
    
    Personally, I would like some warmer colors in there, such as Red but
    Blue and White are ok.

	Orange and yellow!

    I like Tak's reply (note .15) - the european look.  I'll also put
    in a vote for red and gold.  If you do have them made, put me down
    for one
    							Nick
    
    

    
    I don't care what color it is. Just put my name down for one.
    
    Dave

Size L

I'll be talking with the vendor on Wednesday 4-12-89. Prices, colors, type of
material, will all be discussed. When I get the info I'll post a note. 


Stay tuned...
	
	P.S. I hear they have one that's battery powered ;-)

    If this IS serious, put me down for a medium shirt. 

I rode the first of the major/official centuries this past weekend, the Tierra 
Bella (more on the ride later) and saw at least 20 people with Apple Computer
jerseys.  They were very nice.  I think few would argue that Apple has one of
the best and most unique coprorate logos.  The design was very simple, white
jersey made of nylon/lycra or polyester with the Apple logo, the rainbow apple
with the bite out of it, on the front and back and with "Apple" and each side.
I would suggest something as simple for our jerseys as well.  I would also 
that we not say Digital "Cycling Club" since we really aren't a club.

The ride was tough!  Temperatures in the mid to upper 90's.  Only a fool would
opt for the 200 km route.  But then I'm nothing if not a fool!  They shut off
registration at 2000 riders and said that they could have had 3000 if they 
didn't.  Nice route, good support and food, tough hills and windy flats and the
furnace-like heat.  This weekend the Primaverra Century in Livermore.

    Just to let you know I will buy one as well.
    
    				Norm

    
    
    where do I send a check...for a large.
    
    Rob

    
    
RE>>    where do I send a check...for a large.
    
  >>  Rob

	Hold on, I've yet to meet with the vendor to find out prices, colors
and other details. I will be meeting with the vendor tomorrow!! 

He carries HIND clothing, so they will be good material. To keep the price down
I think we'll have to just go with the digital logo on the front, back and
shoulders. ( They already have the screens made up)

I'll put out a vote on the choices of colors, prices and styles tomorrow.


Tom

    Put me down for one as well (small).
    
    Thanks.  -john

    Are these going to be available to emplyees in Colorado?

< Note 1064.32 by VERVE::BUCHANAN "Bat" >
                              -< Apple Computer >-

I tend to agree with Buchanan (note .32).  The Apple Jerseys look really nice. 
Bright, yet simple.   They're easy to spot.

I cast my vote for hideous....

We'll need at least a couple in the West.

    Tom,
    
    How about HIND Shorts with the DIGITAL logo? 
    
    Dave
     

RE>>    Are these going to be available to emplyees in Colorado?

	Yes, I'll send them to anyone that can get international mail
	or UPS. I'll even send them FEDERAL EXPRESS if you want to pay for it.


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VOTE	VOTE	VOTE	VOTE	VOTE	VOTE	VOTE	VOTE	VOTE 	VOTE



NUMBER 1:
	
	bellwether COOLMAX three color jersey. Chest and back are white, with a
	ocean blue stripe on the shoulder running down the sleeve, from the
	chest down the shirt (front and back) is cobalt blue	

	With a small logo on the chest,( a large logo on the front won't fit 
	due to the zipper), large logo on the back and a small logo on each 
	sleeve.

	Price $39.00 w/o shipping        (my choice very colorful)

NUMBER 2:

	Hind Blade jersey, two color. White jersey with cobalt sleeves and a
	cobalt stripe down the side. White is cotton/poly, cobalt is lycra. 	

	Large logo on chest and back and small logo on sleeves.

	Price $44.00 w/o shipping        (cobalt = dark blue)

******	PLEASE NO ORDERS YET, just vote on your choice.   ********

p.s. would you like to get a logo water bottle for $1.75

Tom

    
    Is this a one time shot?  Everyone must order now? or forever hold
    there peice?
    
    I like choice #1.

    Number 2, because of the big logo on the front.
    
    Yes to the water bottle.
    
    MATT

    Are these short or long sleeve?
    
    Number 1 
    
    yes to H2O bottle

< Note 1064.40 by MCIS2::DELORIEA "Common sense isn't" >
                            -< HERE'S THE POOP... >-

I vote for number 1.

Is the bottle large or small?  I'll probably want a couple anyway.

Kevin

    Another vote for # 1
    
    Yes to the water bottle, I can always use another one......

RE. last few replies.

	One time shot? Yes, too much hassel. I have to let the vendor
	know how many to make before hand.

	Short sleeve? Yes

	Bottle size? I assume small, I know they're clear/translucent (sp?)

	Shorts? No

    
    
    I Vote for NUMBER 1.
    
    If the water bottle is the large type I'll take a few
    
    	Paul

    Number 1 for me
    and yes on the bottle
    
    Maury
    

    I vote for 1 and a bottle
    

    I'll be like the rest of the herd and choose #1.
    
    Yes for a couple of bottles.
    
    Too bad we can't get the shorts too!
    
    Tip of the hat to Tom for all his efforts (and they said it couldn't
    be done)!!!
    
    Dave

    
    	Shirt Choice = 1
    
    	Bottle = Many
    
    					Jerry

    1 and a couple of bottles.
    
    ed

    Number 1 is #1 (besides, I never liked Greg Hind). Bottles are a yes, too.
    

    Number 1
    
    2 Water bottles
    
    Nick
    
    P.S.  Thanks Tom for your time in putting this together.
    	   If there is anything I can do from Colorado to help you
    	   out with this project, let me know.

    I guess #1 is the jersey to get along with couple of H20.
                         
    Tom,
    
    Thanks for the effort!
    
    
    

    Another vote for #1
    
    Also the h2/o bottles.
    
    
    
    
    Thanks Tom for doing all this. There are few of us who give something
    back to the sport.

    #1 for the shirt and why not a couple more bottles.  I should write
    a book on how to fit existing collection of 50 bottles into 2 cages.
    
    Norm

    Another #1
    
    Also, another 'yes' to the water bottle.

      I vote for #1 and the bottle.

      Thanks Tom,

      Tak

    Hey Tom, I'm impressed. Both are good choices. I'll have to follow
    my sheepish instincts and vote for #1. And I'll be interested in
    two medium size jerseys and two bottles. I assume you'll be opening
    another note for the actual ordering when the time comes.
    
    Good work. I'm already looking forward to standing out from the
    crowd here in the southern U.K.
    
    Thanks,
    Tim

    Yet another vote for #1 and a couple H O bottles!
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                             The pot hole of life has struck!!!!

After seeing the quick response I decided to call the vendor and tell him
we were going with the first choice. He called belwether and then called me
back with the bad news... The one he and I picked out was a womens jersey,
not unisex (the large was smaller than a mens med.) Well that still left
choice 2. Called HIND and there so back ordered that they can't fill our order
until the next total eclipse. So now I'm in the process of trying to find a
cycling jersey manufacturer that doesn't have graphics or a stupid color
scheme. I don't want to settle for a bland single color jersey just yet.

We will get a jersey made one way or another.

I'll get some other, CHECKED OUT FIRST, choices and put up for a vote again.

WE'LL NOT BE DEFEATED

Thanks for all the replies
Tom

Well here's one option. The Performance Desert Jersey $19.95 with (cotton/poly)
the logo screened on add another $5.00. I have one of these jerseys and they
are great. It washes in the machine and comes out soft. They are two color
jerseys, white on the front and back with royal blue sleeves and accent stripe
down the sides. Not a bad price either.

I called they have over a hundred in each size in stock, SO if we got the ball
rolling we could have these jerseys in a week after the cut off for ordering.
Thats silk screened and everything.

OR, we can go with a more expensive company NIKE, TREK , Descente, and even
have BILL RODGERS Co. make up some from scratch for around $40 

So do we want better or does this fit the bill.

VAXmail me with your response.

MCIS2::DELORIEA

Thanks for all the work you've done so far.

By the way I was going to vote for #2

   > back with the bad news... The one he and I picked out was a womens jersey,

    
    Doesn't bother me.  I usually wear womens jerseys.
    
    	-Nancy

    				< Aussie >
    	You could try Aussie at 818-362-5555.
    
    	They use a sublimate process which dies the cloth.

    	Count Me in for one large.  I don't care who the manufactures
 	is.
    
    	Dave

>Well here's one option. The Performance Desert Jersey $19.95 with (cotton/poly)

Sorry to be really picky, but I wouldn't like T-shirt lookin' jerseys although
it's a very good price.

>OR, we can go with a more expensive company NIKE, TREK , Descente, and even
>have BILL RODGERS Co. make up some from scratch for around $40 

Try Pearl Izumi.  I think they have simpler system and lower price.

I don't mind $40 though.

Tak

    I vote for Bill Rogers or Descente.  Sorry not a Performance clothing
    fan.
    
    						Norm

< Try Pearl Izumi.  I think they have simpler system and lower price.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but... I heard a rumor that Pearl izumi
won't be importing into the USA this year.  I'm not sure if it's true, or why
the reason is if it is true.  Can anyone shed some light on this?

I vote for the better quality, even at 40$. Who wants to ride in a
T-shirt?

Ken

-------------
Tom,

Count me in for a dozen. As the local sports and leisures activities
(DEClub) president, I'll been thinking of putting a team together for
the inter-company races.

    Do you want a contact at PACE?  I've gotten a lot of their
    jerseys for 35$ after screening.  I think you have to start
    with a plain solid color.  They also do shorts, etc.
    
    ed

>>I vote for the better quality, even at 40$. Who wants to ride in a
>>T-shirt?
        	Hey, it was a nice looking T-shirt :-) 	
	
Ken, and all,

	The cheap route will not be taken. Coolmax or better. I will keep
looking. The reason I like Performance is the turn around time. I want this
jersey for this year. Performance also has Coolmax jerseys. Although I don't
know the styles. I will keep looking for a HIGH quality jersey with a tame but
not boring color scheme. I'm sure I'll find something soon I've got quite a few
people working this issue.

Stay tuned.

Tom
        

    I like #1.

I looked in the Performance catalog last night to see the jersey and I didn't
care much for it either, but on the same page they have a solid color jersey
made of nylon/lycra for about $25.  Comes in white, red or blue.  Anyone have
one of these?  Performance opened a retail store near here so maybe that would
be an excuse to go check it out.

I met the guy who owns Aussie a couple years ago.  He married one of my wife's
best friends sister.  Met him at a wedding.  It was a Saturday night wedding
and I met him the night before and asked if he wanted to ride with me on
Saturday (he had his bike of course).  But since I wasn't a racer he opted to
go with a local store team.  He must have underestimated No Cal rider and they
pounded him for about 75 miles on a hot day.  He didn't do too much dancing at
the reception that night.

What is the difference between silk-screening and dying?  With silk screen does
the design just go on top?  Can you dye a jersey whoes original color is other
than white?

I just remember that our WVU jerseys and skinsuits were made by Good Stuff.
They are not the fanciest looking in the world but the price was very good.
I think the skinsuits were less than $40  and the jerseys were around $30.

Tom, if you are interested, contact Paul Moses of Holy Moses in Clarksburg,
WV. and just mention my name.   Sorry I don't have the address.  

Tak

    I was looking for something and I came across a nashbar catalog,
    so I figured that I'd look to see if there were any promissing jerseys
    in it.
    
    Two look interesting, a polypropylene jersey with different color
    body and sides (I'd recomend white/navy).  The price is $21.95,
    but that has been crossed out and $17.90 (limited) has been written
    underneath it.  Since this is the early spring catalog, we may not
    be able to get them at the reduced price.
    
    The other is a polyester/cotton jersey, available in red, blue,
    white or yellow and goes for $22.90.  It's sort of your basic jersey.
    
    Rich
    

Count me in on a jersey plus bottle

cbs

Oh, by the way, I need AT LEAST a dozen more jerseys ( most of them in medium )

and bottles for other Digital riders in Japan. 
 

Tak

		I DON'T want a jersey.

		chris

re .81

Looks like Chris L has the full fledged Triathlon Fever.

Oakleys, Speedo, shoes and a helmet.  No time to dress up.

Go get 'em Chris.

JD

Thats why God made the NEXT UNSEEN button

    
    I don't want a jersey either!!  If DEC doesn't want anything to do with
    "us" (the psuedo bike club), why are we going out of our way to give 
    them some FREE exposure????
    
    Keep the water bottle also.....
    
    Stew

    Just saw this note and would like to add my 2 cents. I think
    DEC LOGO Jerseys would be a great idea. I have access to a
    local cycling apparel maker. If we can settle on a color and
    fibric and logo then I can get the jerseys made in Colorado
    Springs. For quantity orders of 3 dozen or more we can use
    bi or tri color jersey with sublimated logo in a SwissTex/Coolmax
    type fibric for around 30-35 bucks.
                            
    I have not read all replies but I thought I'd throw this out as
    food for thought.
    
    Bob Smith [dtn 522-4642]

< Note 1064.83 by TRINUT::CAMPBELL >
                              -< Me neither.... >-

    
>    I don't want a jersey either!!  If DEC doesn't want anything to do with
>    "us" (the psuedo bike club), why are we going out of our way to give 
>    them some FREE exposure????
    
Maybe if we do something for them (the company) they'll do something for us. 
It seems like we (the royal 'we' here) often expect support, sponsorship, 
whatever, for nothing in return, or with little proof that we're worth the 
effort.  The DEC running club used to get a lot of support (I've no idea what 
support they get now, in this era of tightened budgets) and they've always 
been quite active in getting DEC's logo spread around by participating in 
every corporate event they can find.  Unfortunately, there aren't many events 
of that type for cyclists.  (And that's what this note was all about in the 
first place).

The point is, if we want support from the company, we'll have to get organized 
and very active in corporate events, even if that means helping create them 
ourselves.

And besides, I'm PROUD of the company I work for and am quite happy to 
advertise that fact.

Kevin... ask not what your company can do for you, but ask what YOU can do for 
your company (and maybe it will return the favor).  Paraphrased from JFK.  

> Maybe if we do something for them (the company) they'll do something for us. 

    The corporation has already given us network connections all
    over the world and a little disk space.

    -Jeff

< Note 1064.86 by TALLIS::JBELL "Ceci n'est pas une pipe. |" >


>    The corporation has already given us network connections all
>    over the world and a little disk space.

Everyone gets this... what I'm talking about is giving something extra to a
rather small special interest group.  Or rather, what I was commenting about 
was the attitude expressed by the author of the previous (.84?) reply.

Don't get me wrong... I sometimes get ticked off at the company too, but....

Kevin

    			( What about the race )
    
    	You been talking about the shirt and how to get one. I would
    like one in a xlrg. But lets talk about how to get a team together.
    I am a USCF racer. My club is Cyclonauts racers (Pro Bike). I Been
    racing in New England for the last month. I would like to know if
    we have any good racers around for the Boston race. I did the
    Northamton Triathlon last year. just the biking part. This was 26
    miles. No drafting I did it in 1hr. 4mins.
    
    	I work in WFO. Lets try to get a team together for Sept. 17
    race.
    
    Love my Trek
    Mike Norton

    where are we with the bike jerseys?         \VA

RE>>    where are we with the bike jerseys?         \VA

	I'm waiting on a couple of quotes on the price of custom jerseys
When I get them I'll post them. I didn't forget this project, so hang in there,
the jerseys are coming...

RJ cycle wear
Schnar-Belt (sp)

Tom

As I mentioned in an earlier note I stopped by the newly opened Performance
retail (not outlet) store and checked out their jerseys.  They have a lycra/
nylon one that seems perfectly fine.  It only comes in solid colors, white, red
or blue but only costs about $25.  If you have problems with the other companies
you may want to try them.

FINALLY!!!

We got a company that will make the jersey. "Schnaubelt Shorts" in PA. They
will make the jerseys and do the INKING<- note not screening. They will be made
with the new sublimation printing. That means no cracked and pealing letters.
The cost will be $42.00. The color scheme will be like the team 7-Eleven
jersey, only not green and red, but blue. They'll be white jerseys with blue
shoulders and blue on the stomach, white and blue sleeves. The logo will be on
the front, back, sides and sleeves. They will be made out of COOLMAX. These
will be really top of the line jerseys, and they'll last a long time.

The price does NOT include shipping. In the continental U.S.A add $2.50
Outside the states I think you would want them sent with an EXPRESS company.
Its up to you though. The prices vary so tell me when you order them how you
want it sent, find out how much it'll cost and add it to your order.

I will not place an order until the monies have been received, so over seas
send your order in air mail or express. 

Once the order is in they'll only take 4-6 weeks to make up.

If you are interested and what an order form send me VAXmail and I'll Vmail one
out to you. Give me an idea of how many you're interested in also.

The size runs will be in the order form.

Tom

    Are you still going to do water bottles?
    
    Thanks for tracking it down.
    
    ed

RE>>    Are you still going to do water bottles?
    
OH YA, I was hoping you forgot ;-) Nope, I'm not going to do them.

Sorry

Tom
   
P.S. If you want to save on shipping and you live in the Marlboro MA area, you
can pick up your jersey. Just write PICK UP in the shipping box, and include
your vaxmail address in the order form.    

I hate deadlines, but We need to have one for ordering these jerseys.
I will make it May 31, 1989. If you sent your order in and you don't hear a
reply from me before May 31, please notify me. I know this is soon, but I would
like to get this over with and have the jerseys for the end of summer not in
the winter.

Will there be a chance for another batch to be made up? I tend to doubt it, but
if all goes well this time....Maybe

Tom

    Tom,
      I didn't want to reply this way but, I can't seem to get a VAX mail
    to you. I would like a jersey. I need an extra large it can be sent
    to 
       Joe Penn 
       3535 Chastain CT
       Alpharetta, Ga. 30201
    
    my phone # is 8-359-3313 I am on A1 at ODIXIE.
    You need a check for $44.50 call me or if you can send me a VAX
    mail with an address I will gladly send you a check.
    thanks
    

    		O.K we have the shirts. Do we have a team. I am wondering
    if we are going to get a team together for the Boston race. Are
    there any racers that what to do the race?
    
    Love My Trek
    Mike

>>    		O.K we have the shirts. Do we have a team. I am wondering
>>    if we are going to get a team together for the Boston race. Are
>>    there any racers that want to do the race?
    
      Mike,
          $50 for one race is too much for this MARRIED guy. For those 
interested you should find out what charity the monies are going to and see 
if you can get a matching fund approved.

Tom

    	To anyone out there that would like to race please send me a
    resume about your biking skills. I would like to set something
    up for the Boston race. I am Married have one kid, House and a New
    car If I can find a way to come up with that money I think any other
    person can. I would like to see a team come for Digital. If anybody
    have any info about were the money goes please send it to me. 
    
    Love My Trek
    Mike
    P.S. If you can afford A Digital shirt you can afford the race.

    	AT&T FourMan Corporate Cyling Challenges. Boston MA. September
    17, 1989.
    	START YOUR PEDALS, Prime your body, grab three friends and enter
    the AT&T FourMan Corporate Cycling Challenge. No experience necessary-
    only a willingness to stroll or race over a 12.5 mile gentle terrain.
    Your four member team will start at predetermined times with the
    AT&T Official Result Time designated by the third member crossing
    the finish line. The first team starts at 9 A.M. Bring your family
    and friends for a full day of entertainment, exhibitions, competition
    and attractions.
    	You can win as part of division I (2 or more women) , Division
    II (3 or more men),Open Category or in one of 12 Business Categories.
    	The Corporate Cup is awarded to the company that has accrued
    the most points over the four events. Points are awarded per event
    on the following scale: 200 points each for the 1st place teamin
    division I and Division II, 199 for second, 198 for third...1 point
    for the 200th team in division I and 1 point for 200th team in division
    II. Winners receive a beautiful award and recognition. Score count
    for up to four teams from the same company per event.
    
    	Each participant to receive a commemorative award. Fresh,
    scrumptious fruits provided to participants by Dole. Over $200,000
    worth of prizes to be presented for the series through raffles held
    every thirty minutes for participants and spectators, performance
    awards and random give-aways to finishers. Business Category awards
    consist of gold, silver and bronze medals for the first through
    thrid place teams in each business Category in both division(306
    medals per event). Division awards at end of day consist of engraved
    awards and merchandise. Division II team awards provided for first
    through tenth place team (40 engraved awards and 40 merchandise
    awards) and Division I awards provided to first through fifth place
    teams(20 engraved awards and 20 merchandise awards)
    	this info from thwe AT&T entry form. Please if any body is
    interested let me know. So far there is only three of us that are
    interested. We need more people than that.
    
    Love my Trek
    Mike

< Note 1064.100 by KRAPPA::ROWLEY >
                              -< Need Racers!!!! >-

I would like to compete in the ATT Challenge.

In order to put in a good showing for Digital maybe we should consider
getting organized. Based on experience from involvement in corporate ski
challenges where Digital has done very well it appears to me that at
least some of the things we should do are: find at least 32 riders,
recruit 8+ ladies, organize teams and alternates, and arrange try-outs
and team practices. Perhaps we need a (oh no not another) committee of
volunteers to do the organizing and make the decisions. 

Comments? Volunteers?

Al

                  <<< Note 1064.32 by VERVE::BUCHANAN "Bat" >>>
                              -< Apple Computer >-

>> I rode the first of the major/official centuries this past weekend, the 
>> Tierra Bella ...

>> The ride was tough!  Temperatures in the mid to upper 90's.  Only a fool
>> would opt for the 200 km route.  But then I'm nothing if not a fool!  They
>> shut off registration at 2000 riders and said that they could have had
>> 3000 if they  didn't.  Nice route, good support and food, tough hills and
>> windy flats and the furnace-like heat.

                  
For those of you who read "Winning" Cycle Racing magazine, check out the
"Bike Shop" column.  The author talks about his experiences at this ride.