Conference noted::bicycle

    Have your system manager install DATATRIEVE?
    
    Does it use Rdb also?
    
    ed

< Note 1049.0 by ICBB::JSMITH "I Bike Solo II" >
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Jerry,

   I use a spreadsheet on my PC to do similar stuff.  The calculations are 
quite easy to do.  Most spreadsheet programs either contain graphics or can 
hook into a graph package, for displaying your data in neat, understandable 
graphs.

  The package I use is called Lucid 3-D, which has the relatively unique 
feature of linking spreadsheets together for summarization purposes.  I have 3 
levels of spreadsheets:

  Top level is year-to-year comparisons with a column for total weekly miles, 
Total weekly time, and average weekly speed, all for each year I've kept 
records.  This data comes from the 2nd level.

  2nd level is a daily summary for the year, with daily totals for distance 
and avg speed and weekly total dist, avg speed, avg weight and avg sleep.  
(I'd have avg resting pulse if my good heartrage monitor wasn't broken 8^( )
This sheet also has monthly and year-to-date totals.  This data comes from the 
3rd level.

  3rd level contains all kinds of daily detail data.  All data entry occurs 
here, with the data automatically flowing upwards to the higher level sheets.  
I generate graphs off of the top level sheet.  I can already see interesting 
trends of this year, compared to last year.  I'll probaby add some monthly 
totals to the top level so that I can easily graph that.

I think its great (but of course, I AM a card-carrying techo-dweeb!)

Kevin

re. .1
    	System mgr. doesn't want to install CDD (we don't do RDB) on our 
    uVAX since we'll be migrating (as in turtle) to a larger system in 
    about 3 weeks. I have an account on a system at ZK that has DTR
    access, but can't see using it for personal stuff so I'm open for 
    suggestions in the interim.
    
re. .2   

    >Total weekly time, and average weekly speed, all for each year I've kept 
    >records.  This data comes from the 2nd level.

    	Yes this is what I'm after.
    
    >  2nd level is a daily summary for the year, with daily totals for
    >  distance and avg speed and weekly total dist, avg speed, avg weight 
    >  and avg sleep.  
    
    	Getting a little more detail than I wanted.

    >  I think its great (but of course, I AM a card-carrying techo-dweeb!)

    	Is it possible for the non-card-carrying techo-dweebs (did I
    say that ?) to do somthing like this in a spreadsheet like DECalc
    and/or DECgraph?
    
    							Jerry

< Note 1049.3 by ICBB::JSMITH "I Bike Solo II" >
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>    	Is it possible for the non-card-carrying techo-dweebs (did I
>    say that ?) to do somthing like this in a spreadsheet like DECalc
>    and/or DECgraph?

But, of course!

I'll try to remember to print out a page or two of my sheets and give them to 
you next time I see you at a GSW ride.  No promises tho (you don't want me to 
be any later than I usually am, do you?)

Kevin

ps.  I don't think DECalc can do the linking stuff, but the rest any 
spreadsheet can do.  (did you know that DTR can do graphs, too?)

    
    	re. -1
    
    	In my group only Techno Dweebs are allowed to even
    look at graphic terminals.  I was thinking along the
    lines of ANSI graphs using ------ and oooooo.  Neat
    huh.  You should see my histograms :-)  Thanks for
    the help.......what's everyone else using?  I'll bet
    if we took a pole we'd find that almost everyone that
    rides a bike and works for DEC keeps some kind of 
    record on their system.  Wonder if we'll get any closet
    DECmate users to fess up?
    					Jerry
    
    					Jerry

    I use a book, pen and paper.  I get enough of computers at work
    won't allow one of the buggers nto the house.
    
    ed

    	Good Lord!  I've got so many bicycling programs that I've forgotten
    about some of them.  Some of them are:
    
    	Calculating watts required, given: weight, speed, gradiant
    
    	Calculating endurance (healthy male from Whitt & Wilson) given
          above.
    
    	Recalculating route milages given new starting point
    
        Gearing (complete with little pictures of chainwheels, freewheel
    cogs, etc) solving for ratio, or cadance, or mph  with outputs of
    log axis charts of ratios and gear chart.
    
    	Route average speed calculation (solve for min. to arrive at
    turns given mileage, speed to average).
    
    Unfortunately, all this is on a $700 Atari ST (about equal to VAX
    750 in computing power) with lots of graphics, etc that are a real
    chore (GKS and stuff) on a VAX. Haven't got anything on VAX. - Chris

    	Anyone know of anyone with an Atari for sale?
    	Cheap?
    						Jerry

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DSM::COLWILL                                         75 lines  20-MAR-1989 10:58
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I am selling an ATARI 1040ST
1 MEG of RAM
Internal disk drive,
Color monitor,
Panasonic Dot-Matrix printer with a really convincing letter quality mode.
Mouse,
Mouse pad

2 Years old, I bought it at Bit Bucket in Newton.
Runs great
comes with All original software and manuals :
	BASIC
	LOGO
	PAINT PROGRAM
	1st WORD word processor

all for $800 (Bit Bucket in Newton sells this package as of 3/19/89 for ~$1200)



For $200, you can also get the following :

Some books on the Atari,
Bunch of software magazines (START & COMPUTE) including disks of software
worth over $100,
a game called Speed Buggy worth $30,
** Marck Williams C the latest version, bought 3 months ago, worth $170
   never filled out the warranty we could get one and fill it out in the
   buyers name.
Blank disks and a nice Big disk holder



Computer package and all software I will sell together for $900
I will not sell the software seperatey before I sell the computer, because
if no one purchases the computer I will keep it.

    
    contact only !!
OZONE::GOULD
DTN 297-4959
prefer mail, but can call if you like.
Will not be around this week,
but can make an appointment to see next week
anytime after work between 5:30 and 7:00 in Natick MA.
If you are considering buying an Atari spend time at the store finding
all about it and what it can do. Then come to me to buy.

I will be happy to demo, explain, show whatever...
But I am not interested in convincing you to buy an ATARI over some other
computer like a Macintosh or IBM. It is a great computer, works great !!
Just like the Macintosh, but I think better.
I am thinking about purchasing a MEGA ST computer, kind of a step up from the
1040ST. But a lot more money.

The price is kind of firm unless you can convince me that it is unreasonable.
Please only serious inquiries.


It is tough purchasing a computer with no warranty.
But It works GREAT !! never had any chip problems,
the disk drive was replaced last year due to some problems,
the new one works great. 
If you purchase the computer, I will give you 5 days, if anything major goes
wrong you can have your money back provided you did not abuse it, put a disk
in backwards, drop it or something like that. That is the best I can do
for a warranty.


Thanks,


Dave

                   

    DECalc can do the linking that JSmith is talking about.  I don't
    personaly use the linking function (the function is actualy called
    LINK) for the DECalc grid that I use for biking stats but the 
    scenario that he is describing is doable in DECalc.
    

    Can you let us know where we can get an example.  I've been
    able to get everything in but, linking now seems to be the 
    problem......I still like DTR32.  Once the file is there
    you can extract reprots by bike, month, day, anything you
    can sort on and the data entry function is a lot easier to...
    not that I'm opposed to learning a new way of doing things.
    Guess I should have invested the $800 in the Atari instead
    of the Colnago :-)
    
    					Jerry