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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1034.0. "Rails-to-Trails Conservancy" by BRAT::SMITH (Never say never, I always say.) Thu Mar 09 1989 15:18

    	I recently received a survey/membership acceptance form from
    	the Rails-to-Trails Conservancy. It's about converting aban-
    	doned railroad corridors to trails for biking, hiking, cross-
    	country skiing, running/walking, horseback riding, etc. It
    	actually sounds like a worthwhile endeavor. They claim there
    	are already 140,000 miles of out-of-service lines in the U.S.
    	now. They say that with my membership support (read : $) :
    
    	1) We can continue to provide the legal and technical exper-
    	   tise state and local agencies need to rescue abandoned
    	   rail corridors and turn them into trails.
    
    	2) We can work with local volunteers, conservation groups,
    	   and park agencies to arrange purchases, donations, and
    	   land exchanges with railroad companies.
    
    	3) We can urge the Interstate Commerce Commission to pay
    	   more attention to the trail potential of abandoned tracks.
    
    	4) We can convince private railroad companies to give us pre-
    	   notification of proposed rail abandonments 6 months before
    	   they're officially filed.
    
    	5) And through increased media coverage and publication dis-
    	   tribution, we can provide desperately needed information
    	   on the political, financial, legal, and technical aspects
    	   of rail-trail conversion.
    
    	There was a lot more (5 pages plus the 10 question survey),
    	but, as some of you may know, I'm not a heavy-duty typist.
    	Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else got this "mailing",
    	and whether you did or not, what do you think of the idea?
    
    								Mike
    
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1034.1Worth Every PennyWMOIS::N_FLYEFri Mar 10 1989 08:1814
    I think it is a great idea.  In the Amherst/Northhampton area they
    are trying to get an old railway turned into a bike path.  This
    includes an old bridge over the Conn. River.  The only alternative
    for bicyclists now is to ride on route 9.  In the past 3 years I
    have had 3 friends hit by cars on this highway.  One went through
    a windshield and another has almost no use of their left arm with
    little chance of recovery.  
      The two big stumbling blocks for the trail are 1) coming up with
    the funds and 2) convincing the adjacent property owners of the
    trail that we bicyclists do not want to trash their property.
      I think it is a very worthy cause (obviously).  I sent in the
    survey and a donation the same day I received it.
    
    						Norm
1034.2Their address ?RFT::DEANFri Mar 10 1989 13:463
    I've been interested in pursuing this in the greater Boston area,
    but I didn't know about the conservancy. Could you post their full
    address ?
1034.3Rails-to-Trails addressBRAT::SMITHNever say never, I always say.Mon Mar 13 1989 12:176
    	re: .2
    
    			Rails-to-Trails Conservancy
    			1400 Sixteenth Street, NW
    			Washington, DC        20036
    
1034.4THE GREAT ESCAPEWMOIS::C_GIROUARDMon Mar 13 1989 15:1413
    I received the correspondence and promptly sent in the $15.00 for
    membership. The League of American Wheelmen support this group.
    
    I own an ATB and do hit the woods every once in a while. There is
    a route from Gardner to New Hampshire where the railroad tracks
    were pulled out many years ago. It's a great ride and it's not
    maintained at all. It is 99% woods which is nice for that badly
    needed from time to time "escape" from the pavement. I hope there
    sights target some eastern areas soon. As mentioned, there are miles
    of railroad tracks and mile of removed tracks "roads". It's be great
    if someone could do something.
    
    Chip
1034.5Where in Gardner?NAC::KLASMANMon Mar 13 1989 15:2210
< Note 1034.4 by WMOIS::C_GIROUARD >
                             -< THE GREAT ESCAPE >-

>    I own an ATB and do hit the woods every once in a while. There is
>    a route from Gardner to New Hampshire where the railroad tracks
>    were pulled out many years ago. It's a great ride and it's not
>    maintained at all. It is 99% woods which is nice for that badly
>    needed from time to time "escape" from the pavement. I hope there

How 'bout directions to this route?
1034.6HERE YA GO DAN'LWMOIS::C_GIROUARDMon Mar 13 1989 17:267
    I'll get 'em to you tomorrow. It's really great because they're
    are several side roads to go on (old logging roads?) that go
    quite a distance. They do intersect Rte. 140 if that helps
    (heading toward Winchendon from Gardner). More details to
    follow.
    
    Chip
1034.7WITNES::HANNULACat Tails &amp; Bike Wheels Don't MixMon Mar 13 1989 18:352
    are these some of the same trails that they used to run the dogsled
    races on?  Out near MWCC?
1034.8Wood and Steel worth $$$???GRAMPS::BENOITTue Mar 14 1989 19:384
Is it possible that there is some scrap value to the wood and steel currently in
some (maybe most) abandoned tracks to help foot the bill for the trail? 

pab
1034.9cui bono?KUDZU::ELLISJohn Lee Ellis - assembly requiredTue Mar 14 1989 23:238
    I assume that there is scrap value, yes.  Recently, Norfolk & Western
    uprooted a whole rail-line through York SC to Kings Mountain SC
    (to prevent its getting into the public domain as is, from disuse)
    and they carted away the rails, the ties, and the gravel.

    They also dismantled perfectly good bridges across ravines, etc.
    
    Question is, who owns what...?
1034.10AS PROMISEDWMOIS::C_GIROUARDWed Mar 15 1989 14:0134
    The specific area I had mentioned is totally cleaned out. I remember
    (as a child, of course) watching them remove the track. They took
    all of the ties (sp?) and most of the spikes and plates. There are
    a few kicking around but you'd really have to look for them off
    to the side.
    
    DIRECTIONS - HERE WE GO (there are options)
    
    1)  They begin behind the Crystal Lake Cementery/Park in Gardner.
        If you can find the Greenwood Memorial Pool on Park St. it
        would be your immediate right after the pool. You can see
        the lake from Park St. but you have to go all the way to
        the back of the cemetery. You'll see an old garage just
        outside of the cemetery grounds. To the immediate left
        is where they begin.
    
    2)  You can also pick them up right behind the Gardner Municiple
        Golf Course (also on Park St. - about a mile and half from
        the pool). They used to run right across Park St. and you catch
        your first glimpse of the course from that point.
    
    3)  They also run right across Rte. 140 heading toward Winchendon.
        A reference point is the intersection of Rtes. 101 and 140.
        There is a set of traffic lights at this intersection. You simply
        head toward Winchendon. Approximately 2 miles you'll see where
        they crossed over Rte. 140.
    
    As explained earlier, they go to New Hampshire (how far I don't
    know) and there are a lot of side roads that you can take (logging
    roads?) that go quite a way. 
    
    If you need more let me know.
    
    Chip
1034.11GARDNER RAIL TRAILAKOV11::FULLERFri Apr 28 1989 12:363
    Has anyone checked out the old rail trail in Gardner?  How is it?
    
    steve
1034.12have you gone lately?PCBUOA::LPIERCETime to RideFri Sep 16 1994 12:435
    
    There has not been a reply here since '89.  Has anyone been on this
    trail lately?  I think I'd like to check it out.
    
    Louisa
1034.13small list of R-t-T sites??PCBUOA::LPIERCETime to RideFri Sep 16 1994 12:459
    
    Does anyone have a listing of R-t-T sites in the New England area
    they could post?  I now of two so far, and I do plan on writing to
    Washington to find out more info.  But maybe a *small* list to
    start would be nice????
    
    Thanks
    
    Louisa
1034.14ANGLIN::HARRISAPutting the FUN back in dysfunctionalWed Sep 28 1994 15:0311
    louisa -
    
    there is a book available that lists all the r-t-t sites, state by
    state.  i got a copy from nashbar (1-800-nashbar). or check your local
    bike shops.
    
    if you can't find anything, send me mail and i'll xerox the NE pages
    and mail them to you.
    
    	Ann