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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

728.0. "Hampsten Wins" by SVCRUS::CRANE (I'd rather be on my bicycle) Tue Jun 14 1988 17:04

    
      Andy Hampsten has become the first american to win 
    The Giro de Italia in Italy. Hampsten took the leaders
    Jersey on a tough mountain stage by fighting snow and
    freezing tempatures that destroyed a lot of other riders.
    He held on to The jersey for the rest of race and reinforced
    his growing reputation by winning a Time Trial Stage.
    (I was real suprised to hear this)
       Maybe Andy could be the next Triply Winner ????
    Nah, he'll never win the World Championships.
      But that's only my opion. and by the way I'm calling
    Laurent Fignon to win the Tour de France this year.
    
    
                What's Your prediction ?????
    
    
         John C.
    
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728.1KellyDUB01::OSULLIVANFri Jun 17 1988 17:021
    My (Irish) vote goes to Kelly
728.2HampstenIAMOK::WESTERFri Jun 17 1988 17:4719
well let's see,  Lemond (86 winner) is out and he probably wouldn't
    have won anyway, Roche is out (87 winner) and who knows if he'll
    ever come back, Kelly? Jean Francois Bernard? Fignon? Hampsten???
    It'll probably be one of the lesser "big" names.  Maybe Paulo Rossola
    (sp?) from Bianchi.  How about Pedro Delgado, last years runner
    up?  
    
    In the U.S. we only read the results of the big races.  We rarely
    get to see the top pros in action (except for the Coors Classic,
    and even then there's only a sprinkling of the top Europeans). 
    
    I'd love to see Boulder's best (Hampsten) win it, or Raul Alcala.
    Greg Lemond did a great deal to increase interest in bicycling in
    the U.S.  A win by Andy or any one from the 7-11 team will help
    keep the momentum going. 
                            
    Go Andy Hampsten!
    
    
728.3My heart says KellyPSG::BUCHANANBatFri Jun 17 1988 23:2949
It's hard for us here in America to predict since it's almost impossible
to really follow the scene in Europe.  I have some thoughts but also a bunch
of questions including:

      o What happened to the Colombians in Spain?  Louis Herrara was the
        defending champ but not a serious factor.  Was he hurt?  I had
        thought that Fabio Parra was a very tough racer, not quite as strong in
        the hills as Herrara but stronger in the flat lands.  He moved to a
        Spanish team but again was not a real force.

      o Why did Pedro Delgado skip Spain and ride Italy when his team is
        Spanish.  He was not a big factor in Italy.
        
      o Is Laurent Fignon OK.  He looked good in the early classics but took a
        spill in L-B-L.  He has the experience and has a strong team.  His
        team is also all French which helps.  Will the team split and try
        to support both Fignon and Mottet.  Mottet is a good rider (4th
        last year?) but somehow just doesn't quite have that little bit
        extra, that super-human strength to be a true champion.  I didn't
        see either of their names in Italy did System U enter?
        
      o How well did the 7-Eleven team work in Italy.  From reading the
        results we can't tell.  It looked like Andy did it on his own, taking
        the lead on the foul-weather stage and holding it in a time trial. 

      o Is Jeff Bernard OK?  I heard that he was hurt earlier in the season
        and his results have been disappointing.  I think that he has the
        perfect body for the tour but is his head ready?  Also his team
        is all new, does it have the cohesion needed?  He seemed off-and-on
        in Italy winning a couple stages but down on the G.C..  Did he finish?
        
      o Can Kelly stay close enough in the mountains?  Although there is only
        four days of serious mountains they are tough enough to lose 5-10
        minutes on any day and it's all over. 

To win the Tour you have to to be able to climb and time trial.  In the
flats you have to be strong enough (have a strong enough team) to stay near
enough to the front so you don't miss an important break.  Last years green
jersey winner, Van Popple finished something like 2 hrs 45 minutes down!

With all those questions my predictions are:
        1) Bernard
        2) Kelly
        3) Fignon
        4) Hampsted
        5) Zimmerman

Other top 10 possibilities:
        R. Alcala, Mottet, Herrara, A. Fuertes, R. Millar, Parra
728.4Some InfoDUB01::OSULLIVANMon Jun 20 1988 11:2935
    RE 728.3
    
    Some answers.
    
    Herrera had a torrid time in Spain. Even in the mountains he looked
    a pale shadow of last years man. There was quite a bit of coverage
    on Irish TV and he always seemed to be struggling.
    
    Roche will not be back before the World Championship, if even then.
    He is home here in Ireland at the moment, and is only doing light
    training. Some of the guys out of our club have met him training.
    Last week he stopped to watch a club race that I was riding. Makes
    a change to have him watching us.
    
    Kelly was really flying in the mountains. He said at the end of
    the Vuelta that if the mountains had gone on for another week it
    was the others and not he who would have cracked. From a man of
    few words you have got to take note . Kelly himself talket of Mottet
    as having a good chance.
    
    Bernard has had a knee injury all season. Don't know what happened
    in yhe Giro.
    
    Delgado had quite a fight with his sponsors to let him avoid the
    Vuelta. He considered the Giro to be better preparation than the
    Vuelta. Don't know how he did in the Giro.
    
    
    Another guy to watch for is Ronan Pensec of Z Peugot, second in
    Paris Nice and a very good stage racer.
    
    One last word on Kelly. He built his team this year around stage
    racing, rather than the classics. I get the feeling that this is
    his year. Immediately after winning Spain, his comments related
    almost exclusively to the Tour. He sees his chance this year.
728.5Boulder who?SUSHI::KMACDONALDAntiFenestration SpecialistFri Jun 24 1988 16:2111
>    I'd love to see Boulder's best (Hampsten) win it, or Raul Alcala.

>    Go Andy Hampsten!
    
Boulder? Well, no, Andrew is at least originally from scenic and sunny 
North Dakota, where I suspect he may have acquired some of his cold 
weather riding ability; that's also where I was briefly acquainted with 
him (and if memory serves, I sold him his first 10-speed bike about 
15 or so years back...). Certainly the highlight of my racing career :-) 

                                           ken
728.6IAMOK::WESTERFri Jun 24 1988 17:028
    You're no doubt correct about his origins, I was referring to where
    he's lived and trained the past several years.  When I lived in
    Boulder and tried to hang on in the "bus stop" rides, he was there.
    Along with Phinney, Knickman and many other outstanding riders.
    
    What a tragedy that DEC built in Colorado Springs, instead of Boulder.
    Of course that's just my opinion.