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Conference noted::bicycle

Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

359.0. "Journalism" by ULTRA::SEIDEN (2 outs, 2 strikes, 2 run lead) Wed Jun 24 1987 13:52

    Where do the readers of this notes file read about
    bicycling (aside from this notes file)?
    
    The monthly magazines such as Bicycling and Bicycle Guide
    seem to occasionally have entertaining and informative 
    articles.  But where does one go for more current information?
    
    For example, this past weekend (June 21) there was a professional
    criterium held in Harvard Sqaure:  The Mayor's Cup.
    The Boston Globe's coverage was terrible.  Yet there must
    be someone adequately covering these races, because I saw
    a swarm of reporters interviewing the winners.
    
    Are there any newspapers, newsletters, etc. covering this sport
    in a more up-to-date fashion than the monthlies?
    
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359.1TRY VELO NEWSAKOV03::FULLERWed Jun 24 1987 15:277
    There is a Bi-Weekly (I think) publication named Velo
    News.  It is in newspaper format and lists results of
    many local and national races.  Check a bike shop
    for a copy or perhaps someone else in the notes has
    their address
    
    steve
359.2Velo New AddressRETORT::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNAREWed Jun 24 1987 15:5316
    Velo - News
    67 Main ST 
    Brattleboro, Vt. 05301
    Phone 802-254-2305
    
    Up coming races
    
    28 June , Springfield Vt., Criterium
    2 July , Exerter N.H., Criterium
    3 July , Hillsboro N.H. Road Race
    4 July , Middletown Conn. Criterium
    5 July , New Britain Conn. Criterium
    5 July , Fitchburg Mass. Criterium
    11 July , Cambridge Mass. Criterium
    11 July, Cranby Conn Road race

359.3Write it yourself, from experience...EUREKA::REG_BN_ew E_ngland C_onservatory disks ?Wed Jun 24 1987 17:167
    	re .0	OK, so you got *TWO* replies, you should probably conclude
    that the rest of us just make stuff up as we go along (I certainly
    do).   Its never been clear to me why "Journalists" on a subject
    are quotable experts.
    
    	Reg
    
359.4Oh thank heaven...ULTRA::SEIDEN2 outs, 2 strikes, 2 run leadWed Jun 24 1987 18:5031
    re .3
    
    I was not looking for the resources that people were drawing on
    for contributions to this notes file.  Any peruser of this file
    can see that it derives mostly from the experiences (and
    imaginations) of frustrated athletes who misinterpret their
    hallucinations for "insight". :-)

>       Its never been clear to me why "Journalists" on a subject
>       are quotable experts.

    If I wanted a quotable expert, I'd come to you, Reg  :-)
                
>       you should probably conclude that the rest of us just make stuff
>       up as we go along (I certainly do).   
                                        
    Woops. Not any more I won't.  
    
    Seriously, journalists ought to be able to provide provocative
    coverage of the sport and its "heros".  Returning to the Mayor's
    Cup race over the weekend, where can one get reliable coverage
    in print?  From noters who happened to be in attendance? 
    From the back of a box of Nabisco Wheat Thins (the sponsor)?
    From the bottom of cup of Slurpy (Yes, our 7-eleven team won
    again)?
    Perhaps Velo News is what I'm looking for. Re .2 I called them
    and they were in fact covering the race. They're sending a 
    complimentary issue and I'll find out if their writing is 
    journalism or promotion.
                         
    
359.5Clarification requested, July 11 race3D::LAWRENCEWed Jun 24 1987 19:063
    Is the July 11 event in "Cranby" Connecticut, or is it Granby?
    (Question for Charlie Schnare) - I never heard of Cranby, but grew
    up in the latter town.  
359.6try 'Winning Bicycle Racing' magGRUNT::KLASMANWed Jun 24 1987 22:506
There's also a monthly called "Winning Bicyle Racing" or some such moniker.  
It covers racing almost exclusively, esp. European racing.  It's available at 
most news stands.  It has very indepth articles that seem well informed, to me 
at least.

Kevin
359.7CorrectionRETORT::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNAREThu Jun 25 1987 13:022
    I stand corrected re .5 Granby Conn it is. 
    A 45 mile road race.
359.8Why am I down on writers ?EUREKA::REG_BN_ew E_ngland C_onservatory disks ?Thu Jun 25 1987 15:168
    
    	To paraphrase and generalize an oft' quoted <..err, person, dunno who>
    
    Journalists are people who cannot write, writing about things they
    cannot do, for people who cannot read.
     
	Reg
    
359.9WHO are YOUULTRA::SEIDEN2 outs, 2 strikes, 2 run leadThu Jun 25 1987 17:066
    I believe it was Pete Townsend of the British rock group the Who,
    referring to reporters covering the rock scene:
    
    They're people who cannot sing writing about people who cannot
    talk for people who cannot read.
    
359.10Must be thirsday, Lemme outa here !EUREKA::REG_BN_ew E_ngland C_onservatory disks ?Thu Jun 25 1987 19:0410
    re .9	That may be one version, but I think the original predates
    the Who, and probably Pete Townsend too.  Anyway, I said I was paraphrasing.

    	Reg
   
    (I write about....
    			who cannot...
    				for noters who cannot...),   never mind
    
    
359.11No, It's Like This.....AQUA::ROSTFour strings are better than sixFri Jun 26 1987 12:484
    
    I note about readers who cannot write about doers who cannot note.