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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2397.0. "Rover 111 (old metro)" by HERON::NANNIK::Robb_G (Geoff Robb @VBO) Wed Mar 29 1995 17:47

	Does anyone have any information about fuel consumption
	for a Rover 111?  Mine is using an awful lot.

	I bought a 1993 111SL (4cv) last December.  At best I am
	getting about 33 mpg out of it, for a long 400 mile journey
	on a motorway.  Locally, the consumption is very bad at
	something around 27 mpg.  This is mostly short journeys of
	about 10 miles on normal roads, some hilly.

	On the motorway trip I did, I did maximum about 70 mph and
	this was for short periods only.  The average speed was
	around 55-60.  The car has a fifth gear.

	I tend to be light footed on the accelerator.  To prove it
	I get better fuel consumption from my Renault 19 TXE.

	The car is equipped with a Honda engine, which is I believe
	about 1100cc.  I noticed that Rover here in France are not
	selling the SL models any more, only the 111Ls.  No one at
	Rover here can give me an idea of what the consumption should
	be.  They have had the car in twice for tuning with no
	discernable defference.

	Any ideas?

	Thanks & regards,  Geoff.

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2397.1FORTY2::HOWELLJust get to the point...Wed Mar 29 1995 18:0211
    >>The car is equipped with a Honda engine, which is I believe
    >>about 1100cc.
    
    Certainly you're not getting much for a 1.1 but a Honda engine? I
    thought they fitted 1.1 K-series.... still, maybe the engines fitted
    are different on the continent. Maybe this has something to do with it.
    You could always swap the engine for a K-series and see if it gets any
    better! :-)
    
    Cheers,
    Dan
2397.2CHEFS::GEORGEMCannibalise LegalbisWed Mar 29 1995 18:165
>>> No one at Rover here can give me an idea of what the consumption should be.

Don't they have any back-dated brochures?  It's a sad state of affairs when a 
dealer/manufacturer can't tell you the supposed mpg of a 2 year old car.  What 
about looking in the back of some motoring journals?
2397.3My dog's called RoverWOTVAX::HARDYPWed Mar 29 1995 18:5214
    Hi Geoff,
    
    I've had a couple of metros as hire cars and have been amazed at how
    thirsty they are.
    
    I've not worked out the consumption but remember having to fill up at
    about 150 miles.
    
    If I were you I'd stick with the 18. After all it's a more recent
    design than the mini ;-}
    
    Peter
    
    Peter
2397.4In Liter/100KmULYSSE::SPEPC1::MOULAERTThu Mar 30 1995 13:2017
Extracted from a French Magazine L'Auto Journal Special Salon 93
Rover 111SL  4CV  1120cc  60hp @ 6000rpm
Consumption in Liter/100Km:
90 Km/h		4.4 liter
120 Km/h	6.5 liter
Town		6.9 liter

The same information one year later from L'Auto Journal Special Salon 94
90 Km/h		4.5 liter
120 Km/h	6.2 liter
Town		7.1 liter
In France, I guess the difference between '93 and '94 models is the catalytic 
exhaust.
Hope this helps
Regards
Eric

2397.5I suppose I'd better trade it in for a ClioHERON::NANNIK::Robb_GSmile on your brother, try to love one another right now!Thu Mar 30 1995 16:1219
	Mine has never done the best out of that list.  The
	minumum litres per 100km I did since December was 8.3,
	which is around 33mpg.

	The garage I bought it from, which was Renault, changed
	the air filter.  I had thought that maybe Rover use
	special air filters, because the whole air-intake
	apparatus seems very large and long for the engine type.

	Re: .3

	Hi Peter.  Yes, the R18 GTL is exceptional for stable
	economy.  My old R18 break is now in the possession of
	my son who reports a steady 8-9 litres per 100km.  Not
	bad for a 1600cc 7cv engine.

	Thanks & Regards,  Geoff.

2397.6I forgot one filling station...HERON::NANNIK::Robb_GSmile on your brother, try to love one another right now!Mon Apr 03 1995 19:2411
	Oops, better put the record straight.  I forgot one
	tank filling we did on the long stretch, so the fuel
	consumption isn't as bad as I thought.  I worked it
	out to 6.42 liters per 100kms, or about 44 mpgs.

	However, the local consumption remains pretty poor;
	my tank is already at half full and only done 120 kms.

	Thanks anyway for the feedback.

	Cheers,  Geoff.
2397.7"local travel" consumption is not good around hereVARDAF::CHURCHDave Church@VBE (DTN 828-6125)Mon Apr 03 1995 20:5410
2397.8soon seeCHEFS::CARTERCMon Apr 10 1995 13:366
    I'm getting a 111Si as a courtesy car on Wednesday - I'll check it out
    for you on the 150 mile rounfd trip to Reading...
    
    
    
    Xtine
2397.9COMICS::SUMNERCEasy on the clutch luvMon Apr 10 1995 13:5510
    The 115SD is pretty good (6000 mile test drive).  Infact I'm surprised
    how much I like it.  All I need now is a flat cap and a pipe.
    
    Rover have been excellent and provided the best finance deal..
    
    200 pounds deposit and 5 years of payments...no need for a 4 grand
    deposit, three years of payment and a 4 grand balance...Not to mention
    1 years free insurance and AA membership.
    
    Chris  (Well impressed)
2397.10COMICS::SUMNERCUK OpenVMS counter intelligenceWed Jan 31 1996 12:3811
    After 20,000 miles the 115SD is still running well. 
    
    The only problem I found was that the seals around the front lamps were
    faulty.  They used the wrong type of glue on the early models and the
    weather affects the glue and causes the seals to come loose.
    
    I put this note in, as I'm selling it soon (hopefully).
    
    Cheers,
    
    Chris