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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2355.0. "Any opinions on the BMW 316i Compact ??" by ZPOVC::SEOWHURN () Tue Jan 03 1995 12:15

    Hi,
    
    does anyone out there own, or has test-driven the new BMW 316i Compact
    ? I've seen the reviews in various magazines and it seems to have good
    ratings, except in obvious areas such as outright performance.
    
    However, the reports are all on the manual version. Question is, how is
    the 316i Compact liveable in auto version ?? Has anyone tried ?
    
    Any opinions from anyone who owns one or has test-driven one will be
    much appreciated.
    
    Seow-Hurn
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2355.1LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Wed Jan 04 1995 13:2115
    I haven't driven it (yet ...) but here are 2 pieces of info that might
    be of interest to you:
    
    - BMW, for some unspecified reason, have mounted the 'old' rear
      suspension of the previous 3xx series on the Compacts. They probably
      did not have enough space to mount the 'new' multi-link setup of the
      current 3xx series. Or could it be a marketing trick to lead people
      to buy the more expensive models ? Anyway, I'll let you draw your own
      conclusions.
    
    - Several friends, BMW owners, have tested it. They have confirmed that
      the rear end has the same old funny tendency to go where you did not
      expect it to go initially ... if you see what I mean.
    
    That's all I've read/heard. All the rest is in the mags.
2355.2MKTING::WILSONWed Jan 04 1995 16:446
The car has not been well received. It's cramped inside, handles 
quite badly and does not perform very well.

I prefer the Golf GTI a Honda VTI.

Just my tuppence worth...John 
2355.3trivia time!AIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatWed Jan 04 1995 17:356
>The car has not been well received. It's cramped inside, handles 
>quite badly and does not perform very well.

Gee, what other BMW model has these same features?? :-)

Dave
2355.4ESBS01::WATSONAnd so, it begins....Wed Jan 04 1995 18:571
    
2355.5There are specials already...WELSWS::HILLNIt's OK, it'll be dark by nightfallWed Jan 04 1995 19:022
    Apparently it works well with the 325 engine bored out to 3 litres. 
    Then it's looking at 5 sec for 0-60 and 155 mph as top speed.
2355.6What ? The reports didn't say that....ZPOVC::SEOWHURNSat Jan 14 1995 04:3214
    RE: .1
    
      
     yes, I guess the rear suspension was "cheapen" to save space as well.
     I rather surprised that the car handles as per previous model, since
    the New Zealand mag had nice things to say about the car's handling and
    performance in twisty road. I'd missed out on Nov's "What Car" magazine
    which I believe had a full feature on the Compact, but based on Dec's
    "What Car" mag, the Compact still came up tops (sort of) against the
    popular hot hatches.
    
    Hmmm.. I did not like the tail antics of the previous 3 series...
    
    SH
2355.7SHIPS::WILLIAMS_KTue Jan 31 1995 13:5812
    I read that they fitted the old suspension because the new one would
    not fit.
    
    At the end of the test (Autocar I think) they send it was far superior
    to any other hothatch in the class regards build and refinement and
    equal on performance. I also think it said there would be a 1.8 ltr/140
    BHP version.
    
    My Rover GTI rattles and my friends Golf GTI is falling apart inside.
    Both cars are under 2 yaers old.
    
    
2355.8UNTADE::TOPI've done some thingsMon Feb 06 1995 17:0910
    I think they fitted the old suspension because it's cheaper, that meant
    they could afford to sell the car at a competetive price.
    
    The 318i is already out here in Munich, so a guess it won't be long in
    getting to the rest of Europe. They don't seem to sell that well here
    though. The saloon is more expensive, but there are loads of
    one-year-olds knocking about, so maybe people buy those instead. Better
    car that it is.
    
    Al
2355.9modification needed to compact 318tiGALVIA::ECULLENIt will never fly, Wright !Fri Jun 21 1996 17:236
    I have the 318ti. Recently I started having a real bad rattle when in 
    first gear and also reversing. The car is still under warrenty. I 
    returned it to find that there is a modification required ! Not too 
    sure where, possibly the clutch or the like. Anyone heard anything ?
    
    Eric.
2355.10Loud sucking noises till operating temp reached.ZPOVC::SEOWHURNWed Jul 17 1996 11:2318
    Re: .9,
    
    I've just had a chance to drive a 318ti last week, the BMW dealer had
    loaned it to a friend of mine, after her 3 week old 316i saloon was
    flooded, as they had the aircon piping done wrong !
    
    As it was an auto, can't commend about the 1st or reverse gear but I
    did notice that the intake noise when the engine was not at operating
    temp yet was very very loud ! You can really hear the air suction. Once
    at operating temp, the noise went away. Do you have the same problem ?
    It seems very uncharacteristic. Wonder if the 318is models suffer from
    the same problem.
    
    Anyway, that 318ti had the M-Tec suspension and overall, I liked the
    car, the throttle response and nimbleness was very good (compared to my
    standard 318i).
    
    Seow-Hurn