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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2329.0. "Cavalier TD engine running cool" by WELCLU::CLIFTON (Consistently inconsistent) Wed Oct 12 1994 16:42

    
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2329.1try againWELCLU::CLIFTONConsistently inconsistentWed Oct 12 1994 16:4313
    Hi,

    I have recently taken delivery of a Cavalier CDX 1.7TD and am a little
    concerned about it's running temperature.  It never seem to get that
    hot (the gauge always shows <90 degrees).  Is this usual for TD engines
    or should I be getting this sorted??  Surely the engine is not
    performing at its best if it consistently runs cool.?  Or is this
    different for diesel engines?

    Thanks,

    Paul.
    
2329.2Sounds Typical to meTRUCKS::MORRIS_DWed Oct 12 1994 16:538
    Once hot, the temperature guage in my 1.7TD remains in the lower
    quarter of the dial. My old 2.0L cavvy exhibited the same
    characteristics. Then, stick it in a traffic jam and watch the guage
    rise (until the elctric fan cuts in).
    
    No, I would say you have a typical Cavalier there. 
    
    Dave   
2329.3COMICS::SHELLEYAlways with the -ve wavesWed Oct 12 1994 17:176
2329.4PAPERS::CORNEJohn CorneThu Oct 13 1994 14:275
    Its not just cavaliers - my Pug 405 TD does the same - till it gets
    some welly...(or no welly at all - on the M4 yesterday not going
    anywhere fast at all :-(
    
    Jc
2329.5PLAYER::BROWNLCoito ergo sumThu Oct 13 1994 16:423
2329.6Cool runnings - standard on diesels ?BRUMMY::WALLACE_JMon Oct 17 1994 15:492
    My Peugeot 306 TD is also a real cool car, never gone over 85 yet.
    (Degrees, that is).
2329.7What do you think of it Paul?WELSWS::BOURNEJNow 2 grandsons - Timothy &amp; JoshuaTue Oct 18 1994 20:337
    Paul,
    
    Mine also runs at 90 degrees!
    
    Regards,
    
    Jim
2329.8COMICS::SHELLEYAlways with the -ve wavesTue Oct 18 1994 20:364
2329.9Sounds about right to meWELCLU::YOUNGPolicemen aren't nasty peopleWed Oct 19 1994 13:307
    
    I think 90 (where'd you get that little degree sign from I ain't got
    one! 8*) ) is about normal I seem to remember thermostats in the low to mid
    eighties, but they tend to run them a bit hotter these days to get the
    emissions right.
    
    Richard
2329.10Modern engines run hotterPIECES::ALCOR::RUSLINGPlace holder for NOTESWed Oct 19 1994 14:149
	Yes, modern engines do run warmer than older engines.  I read
	this in the Kenlowe fan literature when I fitted one to the
	Marlin.  That's why more modern cars have a higher pressure
	rating on their radiator cap's than old ones (eg my MG).  I 
	presume that the engine is happy because of advances in 
	machining and oil technology.

	Dave
2329.11VANGA::KERRELLDECUS UK - IT User Group of the Year '94Wed Oct 19 1994 15:219
>(where'd you get that little degree sign from I ain't got one! 8*)

Compose ^0

or 

Compose 0^

Dave.
2329.12COMICS::PARRYTrevor ParryWed Oct 19 1994 20:327
    How do you know the engine runs at 90 degrees ?  My engine runs really
    really hot cos it has lots of little explosions in it :-) However, the
    temperature of the water is 90 somethings according to a little needle
    in one of the displays on the dashboard.
    
    tp   (p for pedantic)
    
2329.13CHEFS::FIDDLER_MThe sense of being dulls my mindWed Mar 20 1996 13:1713
    Have any Cavalier TD drivers ever come across this problem:
    
    When I'm accelerating, and generally pushing the engine in lower gears,
    a very odd noise comes up from the engine.  It sounds like dry leaves
    rattling around in the ventilation system, thats the  only way I can
    think of describing it.  I've checked through the engine, and I can't
    find any obvious problems.  I even managed to duplicate the noise 
    when revving the engine with the car stationary.  
    
    Hmmm
    
    Mikef
    
2329.14VANGA::KERRELLsalva res estWed Mar 20 1996 15:426
re.13:

My TD is far too noisy to notice a sound like dry leaves!

Unhelpfully,
Dave.
2329.15COMICS::CORNEJWhat's an Architect?Mon Apr 01 1996 18:484
    Its the soot settling on the car behind :-)
    
    Jc