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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2213.0. "Costing me a fortune" by NMSVCS::BARRY () Wed Jan 26 1994 17:46

Hi all,

I have recently started work at Newbury which means commuting
from Portsmouth. I have invested some money in a VW Golf
1300 LS (W reg) and apart from this one point I am very pleased.

The problem is that I am only getting just about 30 mpg.
The car was serviced two weeks ago and is running very well
but the low mileage is costing me about 40 quid a week in petrol.

Any suggestions ??

(BTW - The service was very comprehensive and included
inspection of all pipes etc).

Barry
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2213.1COMICS::SHELLEYWed Jan 26 1994 18:438
    To be honest, whilst 30 mpg is not brilliant, it is not unreasonable
    considering the age of the car (although you haven't mentioned the
    mileage of the engine).
    
    The key to good economy is a light right foot, regular oil and filter
    (esp air filter) changes, spark plugs and points (If it has points).
    
    Royston
2213.2Anticipation is cheaperCMOTEC::JASPERStuck on the Flypaper of LifeWed Jan 26 1994 20:588
    
    Heavy braking = poor fuel consumption.
    
    Strange, but true.
    
    Get a diesel next time 8^)
    
    Tony.
2213.3Ouch !NEWOA::CALF::johnson_nThu Jan 27 1994 15:089
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	Ouch ! On a very similar journey I get 35 mpg from a MK3 GTI ! 
	Silly question - when (if) you convert from LTS to GALLS you
	are curtain your using UK GALLS and Not the small US verity ?

Regards,

Nick.

2213.4Fiat Tempra mpg ??FAILTE::BURNETTDDAVE BURNETTThu Jan 27 1994 15:2812
    Similar question.....
    
    I have a 1993 (aug) Fiat Tempra 2.0 SLX StationWagon (estate)
    leasemobile and despite driving as gently as I know how and never
    execeeding 80 on the motorway, I can only get about 28 mpg all in..
    
    What the Fiat dealership seem fairly clueless about is what I should
    expect in terms of mpg. I get about 320 miles per 53 litres, 
    
    Any clues as to average mpg of said wagon??
    
    Dave B
2213.5PEKING::GERRYTThu Jan 27 1994 15:3010
    I'd suggest the power-to-weight ratio of the 1.3 Golf is not favourable.
    
    My Dad had a 1.3 B reg. golf, and it was less economical than the 1.8CL
    of the time.
    
    Within each car model range, there will be an 'optimum' size/power
    unit, and I think Golf's should be minimum of the old 1500cc model.
    
    Just a thought.
    Tim
2213.6Fuel Efficient, not!CURRNT::CARSONDon't leave earth without oneThu Jan 27 1994 15:485
    Speaking of paying a fortune...
    
    My car drinks about half a pint of fuel every mile !
    
    -=paul=-
2213.71 Imperial G = 4.54L WELCLU::KINGIDon't call me Wayne or JoeThu Jan 27 1994 16:341
    
2213.8Still grim.CURRNT::CARSONDon't leave earth without oneThu Jan 27 1994 18:314
2213.9FUTURS::SAXBYIs it friday yet?Thu Jan 27 1994 18:486
    
    Well, Paul, what did you expect?!?!
    
    You should have got the Micra instead! :^)
    
    Mark
2213.10CURRNT::CARSONDon't leave earth without oneThu Jan 27 1994 19:345
    The only up side is that I'm collecting a ****-load of Air Miles.
    
    
    -=paul=-
    
2213.11try this carTROFS::M_NAKAGAWAThu Jan 27 1994 22:0023
    See 1556.27                              
    
    Somebody challenged GUINNESS book's "ROUND BRITAIN ECONOMY" with same
    car.
    
    They used two cars both had power window, power steering,
    auto air-conditioner and one of then had stereo system installed
    and result was:
    
    	CAR #1:		Mileage			6052 km
    			Fuel Consumption	216.85 liters
    
    						27.91 km/liter
    
    
    	CAR #2:		Mileage			6075 km
    			Fuel Consumption	217.52 liters
    
    						27.93 km/liter
    
    Can somebody convert those numbers to mpg?
    
    Mitz
2213.12Tempra Saloon = 33MPGCHEFS::MCGINTYJFri Jan 28 1994 11:346
    Ref .4: I had a Tempra 1.8 ie SX saloon.  That never got better than 34
    MPG and the long term average was 33MPG.  Mostly 15 mile each way
    commute to work and several 1000 mile round trips.
    
    John
    
2213.13FUTURS::SAXBYIs it friday yet?Fri Jan 28 1994 12:387
    
    Our Tipo 1.6 does around 34 mpg. Mostly short journeys, but a few > 70
    mile ones for good measure.
    
    Get an Uno 45, ours used to do 50+ mpg!
    
    Mark
2213.1433 mpg would be nice!!FAILTE::BURNETTDDAVE BURNETTFri Jan 28 1994 14:5413
    Thanks for the replies on the gas guzzling Tempra... I'm going to drive
    down to Solent from Fife on Sunday, partly to ensure I get my 18K for
    the taxman, but also to find out what the consumption is like minus
    traffic jams... (assuming a clear road that is!!).
    
    As I am still in full licence protection mode, I'll be keeping the
    speed reasonable (75-80) and if the figures don't rise above 30mpg..
    I'll go and beat up the nearest unsuspecting Fiat Dealership!!
    
    ps.. thanks for helpfull comment about the UNO.. but I don't think my
    50lb Weimaraner bitch would think much of the boot space!!
    
    Dave b.
2213.15Using 4.546 litres = 1 Imperial gallon --- Malcolm.CMOTEC::POWELLNostalgia isn't what it used to be, is it?Fri Jan 28 1994 15:2723
    See 1556.27                              
    
    Somebody challenged GUINNESS book's "ROUND BRITAIN ECONOMY" with same
    car.
    
    They used two cars both had power window, power steering,
    auto air-conditioner and one of then had stereo system installed
    and result was:
    
    	CAR #1:		Mileage			6052 km
    			Fuel Consumption	216.85 liters
    
    						27.91 km/liter   =72.299 MPG
    								  ^^^^^^^^^^	
    
    	CAR #2:		Mileage			6075 km
    			Fuel Consumption	217.52 liters
    
    						27.93 km/liter  =79.356 MPG
    								 ^^^^^^^^^^
    Can somebody convert those numbers to mpg?
    
    Mitz
2213.1678.8 and 77.1 according to me!TOMMII::RDAVIESAmateur ExpertFri Jan 28 1994 15:5645
2213.17WARNUT::ALLENIt works better if you screw it in..Fri Jan 28 1994 16:0311
    In the past I have competed in economy runs at Oulton Park until Ms
    Foulston threw them out.
    
    It's actually quite easy to achieve very high figures, we regularly had
    people achieving over 100mpg. However I wouldn't recommend doing what
    we did on the open road, apart from anything else it's illegal to drive
    with the engine switched off and out of gear, the polite men in blue
    uniforms reckon you aren't in control (remembering back, they could
    have a point!)
    
    Mike
2213.18Re.15 ooops, My typo - sorryCMOTEC::POWELLNostalgia isn't what it used to be, is it?Fri Jan 28 1994 17:206
Sorry, my typo!  Should have read 79.299 and 79.356 MPG respectively, not
72.299 and 79.356 MPG.

I used .625 mile = 1Km too.

				Malcolm.
2213.19my idea of fun!OASS::STDBKR::Burden_dSynchromesh gearboxes are for wimpsFri Jan 28 1994 18:1613
Totally unrelated but I remember back in the mid 70's they held an 'economy 
run' up the Auto Road at Mt Washington in New Hampshire (US).  This is the 
same hill I did the hillclimb back in 1990 (7.5 miles, I did it in 9.5 
minutes.)

They had the usual assortment of small cars and stuff, but I think it was 
Car & Driver that entered a 4 door Lincoln Continental with the 460 CI 
engine.  Their goal, obviously, was to record the *worst* figure for the 
run.  I recall the drove up the hill with the windows open, the a/c on full 
blast and the stereo blasting as well.  I don't remember any of the MPG 
figures.

Dave
2213.20NMSVCS::BARRYPloppy Sir, Son of PloppyFri Jan 28 1994 19:5911
Thanks for all the replies guys.

I suppose the power to weight ratio is not favourable and
the car is a W reg (done 90000 miles) so I should expect a low mpg.

But I must admit that I was surprised at just how low it is.

Suppose I'd just better hang on until the lease car allowance
comes in (although that's a long way away !!)

Barry