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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2050.0. "Mitsubishi Eclipse" by UNTADH::DBRODIE (it's hard to be brave when you're only a very small animal) Mon Mar 29 1993 11:18

    Can anyone tell me more about this Eclipse?
    
    I saw one in a dealer's showroom window here in Munich the other
    evening, but only had a couple of minutes to look.  First impression 
    (looks and comfort only ;^) ) was that it was definitely a 4/5 seater 
    (almost as much room in the back as a Calibra), but looked smaller 
    and neater from the outside, more like the Japanese 2+2 pseudo sports 
    car bunch, I suppose.  If it comes with bhp of ~ 150, then it's very 
    competively priced here.  
    
    Can anyone advise?  Is it a Stealth Dodge in disguise?  And is it on 
    sale in the UK (I'm probably moving back this summer!)?    
    
    Cheers,            
     Diane
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2050.1WIZZER::FISCHERI can always sleep standing upMon Mar 29 1993 16:495
Is this the same as the 3000GT? I've never heard of the
Eclipse. 


	Ian
2050.2maybe I'd better have another look ...UNTADH::DBRODIEit's hard to be brave when you're only a very small animalMon Mar 29 1993 17:168
2050.3Dream on...MILE::JENKINSSuitably refreshedMon Mar 29 1993 19:2411
2050.4IOSG::DAVEYJMon Mar 29 1993 20:256
    I think the Mitsubishi Eclipse is the model that's made in the US
    (joint venture with Chrysler) -- made to compete in N. America with the 
    likes of the Celica. I looked at one whiel I was over there when they
    first came out -- too American looking inside for my taste.
    
    John
2050.5RUTILE::BISHOPWhat the HELL are you talking about man!Tue Mar 30 1993 11:481
It's also available in Switzerland... i seem to remember...
2050.6on second thoughts ..UNTADH::DBRODIEit's hard to be brave when you're only a very small animalTue Mar 30 1993 13:0111
    Thanks everyone!  I passed the showroom again yesterday evening -
    it's full title is "Eclipse 2000 GTI 16V".  It looks like a baby
    (well, junior maybe) version of the 3000, without as many curves,
    but with 150 bhp.  It was smaller than I'd thought at first, but 
    definitely a 4 seater.  Seems a practical, reasonably priced 
    competitor in it's class, at DM 42,000 (the model I saw for 
    DM 39,500 was ex-demo).   
    
    Cheers!
    Diane
          
2050.7from the Colonies...CTHQ::LANGLOISCT/TSWed Mar 31 1993 22:3920
    Hello from the Colonies,
    
    	The Mitsubishi Eclipse is, as stated in a previous note, built by a
    joint venture with Chrysler. In the U.S. the car is marketed under 3
    different nameplates: Mitsubishi Eclipse, Plymouth Laser, Eagle Talon
    (Plymouth and Eagle being divisions of Chrysler). The cars have
    slightly different front and back ends and paint schemes but are
    otherwise identical. 
    	They come in 3 "flavors": the base car has 115hp and is front-wheel
    drive, the next up has a turbo and puts out approximately 190hp, the
    top of the line is all-wheel-drive with the turbo and puts out 200hp.
    Prices in the U.S range from $12,000 - $20,000 (U.S. dollars) depending
    on the model and options. It's a fairly popular car here.
    	My daughter's boyfriend had a 1990 Eagle all-wheel-drive turbo. It
    was pretty quick. Handled very well. Just traded it in on a Nissan
    300ZX twin-turbo (300hp!). Now THAT's quick!
    
    							Cheers...
    
    							Thom...
2050.8Eclipse Owner's ReportDV780::MALKOSKIWed Jun 09 1993 18:4043
    I just noticed this note and can add a few things.
    
    I own a 1992 Mitsu Eclipse GSX and have had it since new. As noted,
    these cars are badged differently, but all come from the same place.
    The engineering effort was the result of an agrrement between Mitsu and
    Chrysler. The engines and some other bits come from Mitsu in Japan, and
    all the cars are assembled at a plant in, you'll love the name, Normal,
    Illinois, USA. The plant was originally a joint ownership between the
    two companies, but Chrysler sold its interest to Mitsubishi when it was
    strapped for cash about 2 or so years ago.
    
    My car is the top of the line model. It has a 2.0 liter dohc, turbo
    charged, intercooled engine that makes 195 bhp and 205 lb ft of torque.
    The GSX has AWD, a 5-speed (autop available), and 16x6" wheels with
    205-55 V-rated Goodyears. It weighs about 3,000 lbs.
    
    I live in the mile-high city of Denver where all cars are down on
    horsepower due to the altitude. But this car IS quick. It was tested in
    the various car mags with a 0-60 speed of 6.7 sec. Its steering and
    cornering are quick - it feels like it's on rails. Having lived with it
    for nearly 2 years I can report that it has been trouble free - I've
    had no service other than the normal oil change. The car has a rear
    seat that will hold kids, but I would never put adults there unless it
    was for a very short drive. The split rear seat will fold down giving
    me room for my golf bag. With the V-rated tires, the car is a bit
    noisy, but heck, it's not supposed to be a luxury car. My biggest
    complaint is the gearbox - the shifter uses cables to move the gears
    around and they make for a somewhat vague feel, especially when
    compared to something like the BMW 325i my friend has. In the
    mountains, this car is great fun, very surefooted and quick. And the
    AWD option makes it a viable winter car, though I'm sure that the
    normal FWD cars are pretty good in the snow.
    
    Is it worth the $20k? Yes, I think so. The Honda Prelude is probably
    about equal, maybe ahead since it is a newer design. The Mazda 626
    Coupe is sure nice. (I think the Mazda really looks like the Calibra.)
    There are a bunch of these Eclipse/Talon etc. here in the US. They've
    made about 500,000 of them! I didn't know they were exporting them to
    Europe. I would think they'd be competitive there if the price isn't
    outrageous.
    
    Paul