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| 1966.1 | A child could choke on it ! c. Lynn Faulds-Wood | FUTURS::FIDO | personal name intentionally left blank | Wed Dec 09 1992 11:32 | 11 |
| Earlier this year, the BBC TV programme Watchdog did an article on head
restraints and found three main areas for concern :-
1. too many cars had no restraints or ones which could not be adjusted
2. people did not know the correct position for a headrest
3. a large number of headrests had very flimsy innards
Terry
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| 1966.2 | Where can I get replacements ? | METSYS::BOOTHE | Some good liming here mahn | Wed Dec 09 1992 13:34 | 6 |
| Do places like Halfords sell head restraints ? The ones on my Peugeot 205
are useless.
Thanks,
Karen
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| 1966.3 | | VANGA::KERRELL | Dave Kerrell @REO 830-2279 | Wed Dec 09 1992 15:52 | 3 |
| Don't expect any safety features on French cars.
Dave.
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| 1966.4 | | SUTRA::FROST | | Wed Dec 09 1992 18:37 | 9 |
| I like that French remark Dave. Seems to me you should invest in a pair
of alligator clips and two pieces of string.
Glue the ends of the string to your windscreen, attach the clips to the
other ends. When you get into the cars attach the clips to your ears.
At least it will keep you concentrating.
George Frost
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| 1966.5 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | Come give Aunt Bunny a kiss | Wed Dec 09 1992 21:19 | 9 |
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Snap. I'm 6.2 and in my XR2i the head restraints are JUST high enough.
I tried a Clio 16v and they were pitiful. I fear most car manufacturers
are under the illusion that their primary function is for resting ones
ponytail on.
-Tony
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| 1966.6 | Are restraints mandatory yet ? | CMOTEC::JASPER | | Fri Dec 18 1992 13:19 | 15 |
| The ONLY head restraints to buy for your Peugeot are those supplied by
a Peugeot franchise.
Likewise, I have also had a heavy hit from behind, my new car was
written off, the *ast**d that hit me ended up in hospital (windscreen),
& I had my head restraint at the highest position prior to impact.
I was in a collar for a while, but I'm sure the head restraint did some
good. I ended up in the rear of the car when the seat collapsed.
I have often speculated what the result would have been if I had set
the height of my headrests at the Glossy Manual position. I preferred
the stupid-looking functional height. As for Metro's & (earlier)
Fiestas, I struck them from my buy-list because the headrests were
(IMHO) dangerously low. I chose my car according to the drivers seat &
was glad I did 8-)
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| 1966.7 | | RUTILE::BISHOP | What the HELL are you talking about man! | Fri Dec 18 1992 15:51 | 8 |
| Re -1
The seat collapsed? What exactly do you mean by this? I would have thought that
it would be a very strong point for a seat to remain in position during a crash.
Lewis.
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| 1966.8 | Just avoid Volvo's and your OK | UNTADH::WILCOCKSON | I wanna go home | Fri Dec 18 1992 17:37 | 11 |
| Lewis,
I think he means the front seat ended up in the back of the car (and
him with it, I presume).
The same thing happened to a mate o'mine, he was driving a Vauxhall
Astra, and a Volvo ploughed into the back of him at a roundabout on the
A1 - so its not just a problem with Pugs. I'd think most cars (and
drivers) would suffer the same fate, if enough weight, at sufficient
speed, smashed into their rump.
Al.
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| 1966.9 | Another Metro "seat collapse"" | ROCKS::BATTARBEE | | Mon Dec 21 1992 13:43 | 9 |
| My wife's just had a multiple crunch in her Metro, some one ran into
the back of her car and she shunted the next three cars in front !!
She blacked out for a few seconds and found her seat had collapsed as a
result of the accident.
The car is a total write off.
John B.
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| 1966.10 | Just relax and unwind. | WELCLU::DREW | Not another marzipan mercenary ! | Mon Dec 21 1992 20:43 | 9 |
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After my smash, my seat had reclined itself almost fully....I
pointed this out when the repaisr were being carried out, but I did not
get a replacement seat...presumabley its normal for the seat-backs to
recline when the car is smacked from behind ?
Graham.
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| 1966.11 | | FORTY2::PALKA | | Tue Dec 22 1992 13:48 | 18 |
| I believe it is common, and possibly even intended, for seats to
recline in a rear impact. The mechanism of many reclining seats will
slip if excessive force is applied to it, without causing any damage.
This reduces the whiplash injuries (caused by inadequate or incorrectly
adjusted head restraints). Of course you dont want them to recline so
much that the occupant ends up in the rear seat!
I seem to remember something similar happened to a friends
non-reclining seat in an old mini. A couple of pins sheared in the
accident, allowing the seat to recline. This may be a hangover from the
days when seats usually did not have any head restraint (i.e. when
manufacturers started to build in safety features, but did not
necessarily get the right ones). It is probably cheaper to make a seat
that will collapse, rather than one with a decent head restraint. The
safety laws probably make this a requirement, even if it would be
better to have a good head restraint !
Andrew
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| 1966.12 | but. | SUBURB::GROOMN | Born to EAT.... | Tue Dec 22 1992 14:15 | 10 |
| It seems strange to me that seats are intended to recline after a rear
impact. This could be fatal (at least seriously injuring) in the case
of more than one impact. The first would lay you horizontal and the
second may cause your neck to be broken on contact with the rear seat
arrangement.
Or maybe it doesn't happen like this ??
Nev.
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| 1966.13 | Collapsing seats are killers | JANUS::BARKER | Jeremy Barker - NAC Euro Eng - Reading UK | Mon Jan 04 1993 19:03 | 10 |
| Seats are MOST CERTAINLY NOT expected to "recline" after a rear-end collision.
This has been documented as the cause of several deaths in the US and there
is mounting pressure there to have updated seat back strength rules.
Several manufacturers, such as Mercedes and Volvo, would consider a seat
collapse in a rear-end crash test to be 100% unacceptable.
There was a segment on this on CBS 60 minutes a month or two ago.
jb
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