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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1963.0. "Engine management chips" by LARVAE::WHITE_D () Wed Dec 02 1992 11:57

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1963.1SUBURB::BOXALLGGraham Boxall@REOWed Dec 02 1992 19:1111
    
    I had my Peugeot 205 1.9GTi ECU upgraded to a superchip version, I think it
    gave an improvement of 10-15 Bhp overall (I also had the car Rolling Road
    tuned by Oselli Engineering at the same time).
    
    The improvement was amazing, the car had much more torque and gone was
    the jerkiness at low speed. I can't tell you whether this was a result
    of the chip or the rolling road tune up, but the results were worth it.
    
    Graham
              
1963.2KURMA::IJOHNSTONWed Dec 02 1992 19:185
    How much was your chip?? And any idea how much the 1.6 GTi one is?
    
    
    
    Ian.
1963.3EPROM'sREPAIR::CARTERThu Dec 03 1992 18:107
    
    Does any one know if they actually change the chip or reprogram
    the old one. If they change the chip do you get any money for the
    old one? 
    Does fitting take long?
    
    ...Simon 
1963.4SUBURB::BOXALLGGraham Boxall@REOFri Dec 04 1992 22:0310
    
    The chip for my Peugeot cost 169 pounds, this was for a 1.9Gti, I don't
    know if the 1.6Gti is a different chip/price.
    
    The people who fitted the chip had the car for the whole day, but this
    also included a rolling road tuneup. Apparently the car spent 4 hours
    on the rolling road....
    
    
    Graham
1963.5169 pounds include 4 hr tune?BEAVER::MCKEATINGMon Dec 07 1992 17:573
Did the 169 price include the 4 hour tune up?

Bob (I think I'll add it to my Christmas list if it does)
1963.6Not that cheapSUBURB::BOXALLGGraham Boxall@REOMon Dec 14 1992 22:4616
    RE: -1
    
    Sorry I've taken so long to reply, I've been on leave. Unfortunatly the
    tuneup is not included in the 169 price. I can't remember exactly how
    much the tuneup itself cost, I think it was about 100 pounds. I've got
    the Osselli leaflet at home, I'll take a look at it this evening and
    let you know the costs etc.
    
    I almost fainted when they told me the final cost, during the drive 
    home I soon forgot about the money though.... ;>)
    
    
    
    Graham
    
    
1963.7Why the 4 hour tune up?ROCKS::CAMPTue Dec 15 1992 01:0411
    Interesting that it took such a long time to just shove in a new chip
    and 4 hours to tune up. Could be the new/cleaned or reset gap plugs,
    fit new plug leads/clean distributor, reset valve timing, change air
    filter, and what have you, may have more to do with the improved
    performance than the chip. I would have thought the chip change would
    take 5 minutes and bingo +15 BHP, and 5,000 miles off engine life.
    Did the garage fully explain why the four hours tune up was needed?
    The explanation would be interesting.  
    
    Mike
    
1963.8ESBS01::RUTTERRut The NutTue Dec 15 1992 13:2225
1963.9you don't get someting for nothingWEOPON::LP12Wed Dec 16 1992 13:2620
    re: .-1
    
    Especially with turbo motors, I'd expect the "chip" to take something
    off engine life because the whole point of buying the chip is to get
    increased engine performance. Some of the turbo chips increase
    performance 40% or so. This stresses all components of an engine, but
    especially cranks, con rods and seals. Horsepower is directly related
    to engine speed (rpm) or compression ratio (actually cr is more to do
    with torgue, especially at low revs), or with a turbo, both these
    things mixed with an improved engine mapping of (fuel) mixture with
    temperature and air flow. 
    
    The fact is the manufacturer has tested the engine for longetivity at a
    certain compression ration, crank speed etc. With a chip, you're changing
    this and you should expect to have shortened the life of the engine.
    
    This isn't a problem if you don't mind a re-con earlier than otherwise
    expected...
    
    -Dave.
1963.10ESBS01::RUTTERRut The NutWed Dec 16 1992 17:2228
1963.11RUTILE::BISHOPWhat the HELL are you talking about man!Thu Dec 17 1992 10:498
John,

With you modified Integrale, what kind of power increase did you notice? I'm
still wondering whether or not to get one of these _things_! ;-)

Cheers,

					Lewis.
1963.12 Go ahead and get one... I'm probably going to againESBS01::RUTTERRut The NutThu Dec 17 1992 13:0031
1963.13ESBS01::RUTTERRut The NutThu Dec 17 1992 13:049
    BTW, see the following topics for other 'chip' comments :
    
    	301, 337, 572, 1130
    
    and these for relevant integrale write-ups :
    
    	571, 622, 853 (and 827 !)
    
    J.R.
1963.14Drool,droolUNTADH::WILCOCKSONI wanna go homeThu Dec 17 1992 13:254
    >> Go ahead and get one...  I'm probably going to again
    John,
    
    Does this mean you'll be getting the Evolutione?? 
1963.15ESBS01::RUTTERRut The NutThu Dec 17 1992 13:2914
1963.16All this *AND* the StratosMANWRK::LEACHThu Dec 17 1992 13:476
>>    while my Wife is driving the 2.2 GT/E Manta.
    
    Does this mean you've actually got round to fitting the engine ?
    
    Shaun.
    
1963.17Only a single garageESBS01::RUTTERRut The NutThu Dec 17 1992 16:456
1963.18Watch the Insurance implicationsWELCLU::YOUNGMon Jan 11 1993 14:314
    
    Not wisshing to put a damper on these chips, but you will find they
    invalidate your insurance, and only specialist insurance company's 
    will touch them. They will class the car as modified.
1963.19engine chip upgrade for cavalier 1.8iSIOG::MGALLAGHERTue Feb 22 1994 13:359
    Hi
      Could anyone out  there let me know  if there is  a chip for the fuel
    management system to increase the bhp of a 1.8 cavalier with a cat.
    After driving a SRI for 3 yrs the lack of power is slowly sending 
    me to an early grave.I know there was a chip for the SRI and just
    wonder if any thing could be done to improve performance.
    
    Any suggestions would be most appreciated
                 Regards MICK.
1963.20StarchipBELFST::MULLANWed Feb 23 1994 11:167
    Try Starchip on 0932-788805 for a list of supported engines.  I don't
    know where SIOG is but they seem to have an extensive list of dealers
    all over UK.  The cost is near the #200.00 mark so it may be an expensive
    solution.
    
    Gerry
    
1963.21power chips for VW GTI engineHLRG02::STEEGOpel MantaThu Feb 24 1994 11:2013
    Hi,
    
    Does anybody know if there are engine chips for the VW 2.0 8v engines
    (new GTI).
    Standard it is 'only' 115 hp.
    Where can I get chips, what is the improvement, and what is the cost???
    
    Thanks,
    
    
    /-/		Henk.
    
    (Who_is_driving_the_new_shape_SEAT_IBIZA_GTI_with_the_VW_GTI_engine)
1963.22REPROT::TAFF::WobRobert Screene, UK Finance EUCThu Feb 24 1994 15:5224
1963.23BBR do thatNEWOA::CALF::johnson_nThu Feb 24 1994 16:418
BBR (Britten Brody Racing ?) do a VW 2.0lt 
8 valve "superchip" which they claim will 
up the BHP to 128. Look in the UK MAG 
"What Car" for details.

Regards,

Nick.