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1623.1 | Is this any help | PAKORA::PMOON | Santa...Can I Have A new Car Stereo | Sun Dec 08 1991 05:11 | 8 |
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It costs a fiver to have points removed of your lisence
and i think you can have them removed after 3 yrs.
Peter.
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1623.2 | 5 pounds poorer... | SHIPS::SAUNDERS_N | Village Idiot says RKE | Sun Dec 08 1991 12:59 | 10 |
| Peter,
Thanks for the info'.
> and i think you can have them removed after 3 yrs.
For most offences the points cease to count after 3 years from the date of
offence but they cannot be removed until 4 years from the date of conviction.
Nigel.
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1623.3 | The cheek!! | IOSG::BIGGINM | I'm sorry Dave - I can't do that. | Mon Dec 09 1991 10:47 | 10 |
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<RANT ON>
I didn't know the sods charged you for taking points off!!!, as well as
charging you 32 pounds for the inconvenience of putting them on!!!
<RANT OFF>
Matt. (Who's waiting another 2 years before he can have his 3 points
removed!)
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1623.4 | | COMICS::WEGG | Say "NO" to gerbils | Mon Dec 09 1991 11:05 | 8 |
1623.5 | | VANGA::KERRELL | Dave Kerrell @REO 830-2279 | Mon Dec 09 1991 11:10 | 6 |
| re.3:
Well it must cost money to administer the points system thus it seems just
that those who break the law pay.
/Dave.
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1623.6 | Unjustly accused of a crime they didn't commit....... | IOSG::BIGGINM | I'm sorry Dave - I can't do that. | Mon Dec 09 1991 11:26 | 8 |
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That's good because I can always change my address to where my
parents live for a while.
As for .5 I agree we have to pay if we break the law but I've payed and
I really don't see why I should pay again, however small the fee.
Matt.
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1623.7 | | SHAWB1::HARRISC | Have YOU wiped properly? | Mon Dec 09 1991 11:51 | 9 |
| re .2
So after 3 years points cease to count, why do you have to wait
another 1 to get them removed?
Do you have to declare points (just) > 3 years to insurance companys?
..Craig
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1623.8 | | CURRNT::PACE::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Mon Dec 09 1991 12:44 | 20 |
1623.9 | Could be more costly!!! | IOSG::REESA | | Mon Dec 09 1991 13:22 | 5 |
1623.10 | | IOSG::BIGGINM | I'm sorry Dave - I can't do that. | Mon Dec 09 1991 13:27 | 16 |
| > If you wish to be awkward enough to frig about with 'false' addresses
> to save a fiver then go ahead.
Ummm, I never mentioned false addresses, the address I said I would
give is a perfectly valid address for me to live at because I am a
student and I don't own a house, and find myself moving every year or
so anyway.
I should point out that when I got my points I felt that the Police
were being a little unfair, and I still do, so I feel some resentment in
having to pay when they decided to put points on my licence in the first
place.
Matt.
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1623.11 | | CURRNT::PACE::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Mon Dec 09 1991 13:48 | 15 |
1623.12 | You don't have to live at the address | JANUS::BARKER | Jeremy Barker - T&N/CBN Diag. Eng. - Reading, UK | Mon Dec 09 1991 13:59 | 7 |
| The address only needs to be one where you can be reached via. You do not
have to live there.
Back to the question of removing expired points. As they have expired they
don't have any meaning so why bother to pay to have them deleted?
jb
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1623.13 | They win most of the time | SHIPS::SAUNDERS_N | Village Idiot says RKE | Mon Dec 09 1991 14:13 | 10 |
| Craig
> Do you have to declare points (just) > 3 years to insurance companys?
I think you have to answer all questions on an insurance request form honestly
eg even if they ask for the record over the last 5 or 10 years.
Nigel.
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1623.14 | Pay up and stop whinging... | PLAYER::WINPENNY | | Mon Dec 09 1991 14:40 | 11 |
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You pay a fine for the offence you have committed, not to have the
points put on. So I think it is fair to have to pay to take them off.
Seeing as how the points no longer count and the offence has in effect
been nulled you don't have to tell insurance companies, however it may
depend on the seriousness of the offence.
If they ask to many general questions then go to another insurer.
Chris.
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1623.15 | | WELLIN::NISBET | Dougie Nisbet@WLO 7 853 4334 | Mon Dec 09 1991 15:33 | 13 |
| >Back to the question of removing expired points. As they have expired they
>don't have any meaning so why bother to pay to have them deleted?
>
>jb
In theory, they don't have any meaning. But in practice, anyone who
wants to see your license might hold it against you. (Not You in
particular, You as in ONE!)
A bit like, um, (clambering for an analogy here), HIV testing,
'striking' evidence from court records (the jury remembers). I think
maybe some car hire companies might get sniffy if they see points on
your license, out of date or not.
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1623.16 | Keep it clean out there. | RTOVC0::CBUTCHER | I am a full groan man | Mon Dec 09 1991 15:52 | 13 |
| An ex-colleague crashed his car onece. And then started a claim he had
a speeding conviction from about five years before but never had them
removed. When going through the claim the insurance company asked to
see his license he sent a photocopy off to them. They replied he had to
pay himself as he had lied on his initial application form. The
question on the form was "Did he have a clean license ?"
He had no valid points but his license was in fact "dirty" if I was you
I'd pay the five pounds just in case this comes in as insurance will do
almost anything to not pay out. But you bet they will cancel your
no-claims ;-)
Chris
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1623.17 | I'll keep my green one | PLAYER::WINPENNY | | Mon Dec 09 1991 15:53 | 13 |
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I would rather have a green licence with points for a relatively minor
offence for the world to see rather than a pink one which has obviously
been obtained to hide something.
I suppose this doesn't apply to those of you who have had pink licences
from birth.
Did all this really start from somebody complaining about spending a
fiver?
Chris.
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1623.18 | I'm not hiding anything... :-) | VOGON::MITCHELLE | Beware of the green meanie | Mon Dec 09 1991 15:58 | 10 |
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>>
offence for the world to see rather than a pink one which has obviously
been obtained to hide something.
>>
Not necessarily so.... my licence has been changed several times for
change of name/adddress, and most recently to add another catagory when
I passed my motorbike test. (The change of name, before anyone asks who
I'm hiding from, was when I got married :-) )
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1623.19 | Do insurance companies have insurance against losing a claim | PLAYER::WINPENNY | | Mon Dec 09 1991 15:58 | 11 |
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Just seen .16
I though they allowed you one speeding offence. (Not to be confused
with careless driving)
I wouldn't put it past an insurance company trying this but I can't
honestly see them winning. Did he fight or accept it?
Chris.
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1623.20 | Apologies....ad infinitum.... | PLAYER::WINPENNY | | Mon Dec 09 1991 16:00 | 6 |
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.18
Sorry I forgot the quotes round "obviously"
Chris
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1623.21 | Rathole alert | WELLIN::NISBET | Dougie Nisbet@WLO 7 853 4334 | Mon Dec 09 1991 16:01 | 12 |
| <<< Note 1623.19 by PLAYER::WINPENNY >>>
-< Do insurance companies have insurance against losing a claim >-
Just seen .16
I though they allowed you one speeding offence. (Not to be confused
with careless driving)
Oh I don't know ...
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1623.22 | | SBPUS4::MARK | I wanna be a slug...... | Mon Dec 09 1991 16:08 | 3 |
| > -< Do insurance companies have insurance against losing a claim >-
Yes. It's called re-insurance and is done in bulk.
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1623.23 | | IOSG::BIGGINM | I'm sorry Dave - I can't do that. | Mon Dec 09 1991 21:57 | 7 |
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Here's another thing, did you know that you get 3 points per bald tyre
if the Police catch you driving on it/them?
By all accounts it's a pretty stiff fine as well.
Matt.
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1623.24 | Plug that hole!!! | JUNO::JUPP | | Tue Dec 10 1991 18:59 | 17 |
| RE:.23
Yes I did, they can also give you another 3 points for having an
illegal spare (If you carry it, you obviously intend to use it), you
can also be nicked for having tyres at incorrect pressures as this
affects it's roadworthyness.
Also with the cold weather upon us, how many of you have recently
checked your pressures?, I had a shock this morning when checking mine,
the nearest I got to the correct pressure was 6lbs on the flat side!!
Regarding the License stuff, if you are asked to show your license you
only have to show it inside the wallet, I know the Police are not
entitled to take it out of it's wallet, I presume this extends to the
insurance companies as well.
Ian...
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1623.25 | Oh no they don't!! | SAC::STEPHENS_J | Monotony on the Boundary? Mr Christian | Wed Dec 11 1991 11:07 | 10 |
| I don't wish to spoil the illusion but, when you change address, the
DVLC do NOT remove evidence of old offences automatically. You must
always pay the fee! I had a speeding offence dating back to 1976 and
when I moved to Newbury I sent my license off to have the address
changed. (I must admit I was hoping that they would remove the expired
endorsement as well). It returned with the new address and the
endorsement still there. The timing was endorsement 1976, new license
1982.
Merry pointless Christmas
J
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1623.26 | | COMICS::WEGG | I've got everything, bar humbugs. | Wed Dec 11 1991 11:21 | 15 |
1623.27 | Oh yes they do! | HEWIE::RUSSELL | Hari Krishna, Hari Ramsden, Hari Hari | Thu Dec 12 1991 13:55 | 9 |
| you can tell the panto season has arrived, can't you?
It must have changed a few years ago - I got a replacement license when
mine went up in smoke im the Crescent, and again when I moved.
I had en endorsement <4 years old at the fire; it stayed on; it went off
when I moved, and got a new license for free.
Peter.
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1623.28 | they do | LARVAE::HUTCHINGS_P | Manchester City | Fri Dec 13 1991 15:27 | 9 |
| re .25
I don't wish to spoil the illusion, but they _DO_..!!!
I had endorsements for a bald tyre, (maybe the _type_ of endorsement
makes a difference..???), which had "expired" on my licence, when I
moved, the licence came back with new address and points removed...
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1623.29 | | CURRNT::PACE::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Fri Dec 13 1991 15:38 | 7 |
| >> I had endorsements for a bald tyre, (maybe the _type_ of endorsement
>> makes a difference..???), which had "expired" on my licence, when I
I seem to recall something about D+D offences not being removed
from your licence, even after 'expiry'. Anyone know if that's right ?
J.R.
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1623.30 | 10 - 11 years | WOTVAX::MEAKINS | Clive Meakins | Fri Dec 13 1991 15:43 | 10 |
| >> I seem to recall something about D+D offences not being removed
>> from your licence, even after 'expiry'. Anyone know if that's right ?
All endorsements remain on your licence for an extra year. This is so
that courts will know your previous record if you're hauled up for an
offence commited whilst an existing endorsement is valid, but your case
comes up after the original endorsement expires.
D+D stays for 11 years, valid for 10 and there for another year for
court use only.
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1623.31 | Ah, a form to fill out | SHIPS::SAUNDERS_N | Village Idiot says RKE | Tue Dec 17 1991 16:13 | 11 |
1623.32 | lost but not gone forever? | MACNAS::BHYLAND | | Wed Dec 18 1991 16:33 | 6 |
| I had a UK licence 15 years ago, I think it was till the year 199dot,
and i moved to Ireland and subsequently lost it, can anyone give me the
number and address of the DVLC and let me know the cost of replacing
it? p.s. is it a lot of hassle?
pps by lost it i mean mislaid not "had it lifted by the Bill"
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1623.33 | | NEWOA::ALFORD_J | The intermission fish... | Wed Dec 18 1991 16:53 | 9 |
| Re: .32
DVLC
SWANSEA
Should find them. Their address isn't much more than that.
You probably have to fill out a form of some sort (Post Office) and send them
a cheque to pay for the replacement.
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1623.34 | | SHIPS::SAUNDERS_N | Village Idiot says RKE | Wed Dec 18 1991 18:26 | 13 |
| Re: .32
> DVLC
> SWANSEA
SA99 1BN is the post code
> You probably have to fill out a form of some sort (Post Office) and send them
> a cheque to pay for the replacement.
Form D1, the same as I had to use is the one I think and it includes details
of costs etc. Should be available from Post Offices.
Nigel.
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