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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:	Cars in the UK
Notice:	Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:	COMICS::SHELLEYELD

Created:	Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2584
Total number of notes:	63384

1570.0. "Are Company Car Drivers Full of it?" by TASTY::NISBET (DELETE/TOO_LATE DOCDB.DAT;) Wed Oct 16 1991 19:09

    I was reading the Telegraph motoring section this morning. An insurance
    company advert offers lower premiums to private motorists since
    'Company Car Drivers may not treat their vehicles as well as you do".
    
    So what do you say all you Fleet Car drivers? Accident rates for
    company cars are higher than average. Are you bad, dangerous, reckless
    drivers or what?
    
    To construe this note as being a case of sour grapes and jealousy just
    because I don't have a company car would be completely wrong. Probably.
    
    Dougie

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1570.1		KERNEL::SHELLEYR	On the bank of brinkruptcy	`Wed Oct 16 1991 19:18`	6
	It doesn't take a great mind to work out that company car drivers are likely to do 2 or 3 times the mileage that private motorists cover. Therefore of course they are statistically a greater risk. Roy
1570.2	Beware of G-reg Sierras/Cavaliers	KERNEL::WATTERSON	VENI VIDI VISA	`Wed Oct 16 1991 19:21`	4
	Drive round the Basingstoke ring-road during the rush hour for the answer. Paul
1570.3	Yes but!	JUMBLY::RICHARDS		`Wed Oct 16 1991 19:37`	1
	Statistics, Shmatistics - how are they at parking?
1570.4		KERNEL::PARRY	Trevor Parry	`Thu Oct 17 1991 16:08`	6
	From evidence in this notesfile, company car drivers are more reluctant to spend money on anti-theft devices such as alarms. Hence in this case the statement is true. TP
1570.5	They might work for DEC, but there again, they might not !	CRATE::RAWSON	Watching birth puts you off red meat	`Thu Oct 17 1991 16:18`	6
	I know of one company car owner that takes theirs on treasure hunts, not the Sunday afternoon jolly old poodle along ones, but the thrash the hell out of it, see how many wheels we can get off the ground and oops shame I haven't got a sump guard type. Alex
1570.6		KERNEL::SHELLEYR	Don't you just hate it when that happens.	`Thu Oct 17 1991 16:32`	13
	re .4 Is it or is it not the _owner_ of a vehicle that is responsible for providing anti-theft devices ? As a company car driver of a car in a high risk catagory, I am concerned that the company is not interested in making it a little more by equipping it with an alarm. Roy PS I guess Hertz is the _owner_ but it is the company that has to fork out for it.
1570.7	Not EVERY company car is driven for business.	NEWOA::SAXBY	Aye. When I were a lad....	`Thu Oct 17 1991 16:45`	10
	Re the note on company cars mileage. While it may be 'statistically true' that MOST company car drivers do a greater mileage than the 'average' private motorist, you only have to look around the car park of any railway station on a mainline into London to realise that a lot of company car drivers do about 10 miles a week in their cars! Mark
1570.8		KERNEL::WATTERSON	VENI VIDI VISA	`Thu Oct 17 1991 16:54`	8
	Re .6 Maybe 'the company' should reflect the cost of these 'high-risk category' cars in the preferred list and just double their price ? After all, alarms don't stop determined car thieves - do they ? Paul
1570.9		KERNEL::SHELLEYR		`Thu Oct 17 1991 17:22`	7
	Re: .8 'the company' already is loading cars with a higher insurance risk. Haven't you read the new car scheme guidelines Paul ? Roy
1570.10	Statistics	HAMPS::NISBET_D		`Thu Oct 17 1991 18:29`	10
	On statistics: Perhaps company cars drivers do on average more miles per year. But I would have thought that the important ration was that of company cars to other vehicles on the road at any given time. If this is the same as the accident rate, then I would admit that the statistics are a sham. Unless the statistics take this into account. Dougie
1570.11	well, I'm feeling cynical today.....	VOGON::MITCHELLE	Beware of the green meanie	`Thu Oct 17 1991 19:01`	21
	As I think has been mentioned before in this conference - you don't have to go looking at statistics to get info on company car drivers - just listen to many of them.... It doesn't matter - it's only a company car.... I wouldn't take my own car along that track.... I wouldn't take my own car to xxxx it might get pinched - but... I wouldn't drive my own car this hard but ... I banged the door on the wall when I opened it - but it doesn't matter I'm not paying to get it fixed.... I don't car what they charge to fix/service it - I'm not paying... Get the idea?
1570.12		CURRNT::PAGED	What if Icke is right ?	`Thu Oct 17 1991 19:07`	1
	Ha... the prosecution rests... Get out of that one Dougie !!
1570.13	There are company cars and company cars	BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL	Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK	`Thu Oct 17 1991 19:44`	13
	Re: .11 One nice thing about the Digital scheme is that your do have a choice of car, so on the whole you tend to take more pride in your car and look after it. If we all got Cavalier 1.6GL's then i am sure that they would be treated more like the "traditional" company car (100mph in the "fast" lane of motorways, 2 feet from the car in front, jacket hanging from hook above rear side window ...). Lets hope that the scheme continues to encourage a caring attitude! mb
1570.14	The people in this file are the minority...	VOGON::MITCHELLE	Beware of the green meanie	`Fri Oct 18 1991 11:10`	19
	re .13 - >> One nice thing about the Digital scheme is that your do have a choice of car, so on the whole you tend to take more pride in your car and look after it. >> I don't think this is necessarily true in the majority of cases. - maybe the people in this file do - but the fact that they are noting here means that they have an interest in cars anyway. The other side of this is that people can choose cars which they could not afford to insure themselves, which can give inexperienced drivers access to very powerful cars - many of which are damaged shortly into their lease life.... (I don't really want to open up an old rat-hole here, but I believe this could be one of the reasons that the new scheme has a separate insurance bit) Elaine
1570.15	I'm not sure I follow you	TASTY::NISBET	DELETE/TOO_LATE DOCDB.DAT;	`Fri Oct 18 1991 14:17`	14
	<<< Note 1570.12 by CURRNT::PAGED "What if Icke is right ?" >>> Ha... the prosecution rests... Get out of that one Dougie !! I'm not sure I'm with you ... the base note is my perception of company car drivers from experience and listening to other colleagues. My later note is an admission that the statistics may be biased to make company car drivers look worse than they are by not taking into account higher mileages. I'm such a tolerant well rounded flexibale fence sitting consider-other-viewpoints lovely chap it's not true. Dougie