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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1568.0. "Todays bad parker = plonker" by JUMBLY::BATTERBEEJ (Kinda lingers.....) Tue Oct 15 1991 12:21

    Here is the place to shame (hopefully) the drivers of very badly
    parked cars in DEC car parks to go out and park them properly.
    
    Todays nominees of "plonker of the day" are as follows :
    
    DECPark Reading :
    
    Light Blue Renault 19  reg.           J467 SDP
    
    Red Ford Sierra (with cossie wheels)  D420 YRX
    
    Red Volvo 440                         H631 JPP
    
    
    All of these cars are straddling 2 spaces. At least the first two
    gradually get further over the line but the Volvo...no excuse. 
    Says it all about Volvo drivers.....couldn't give a t*ss about 
    other drivers.
    
    
    I hope this note proves to be worthwhile, although chances are,
    those that park badly probably don't care enough about cars to be
    reading here in the first place. If you recognise the numbers as
    that of someone in your group, extract this note, print it out and
    leave it on their desk.
    
    
    Jerome.
    
    PS - I apologise to all non-typical Volvo drivers as the above
         probably doesnt apply to you.
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1568.1It's not there fault that they are c**p drivers/parkers... make 'em take their test again!!! RUTILE::BISHOPTue Oct 15 1991 12:284
Come on now let's be fair!

I wouldn't neccessarily call them plonkers. It's just means that their driving
skills need some touch up... ;-)
1568.2Maybe security should anounce the car on the PA?JUMBLY::BATTERBEEJKinda lingers.....Tue Oct 15 1991 13:218
    Anyone who parks a car over two spaces and either doesn't realise 
    or doesn't care enough to repark the car , is a plonker in my 
    book. Also, they may be a bad *first* time parker but if they
    are so bad at parking that they can't *eventually* get it right, 
    that makes them a menace as well as a plonker.
    
    
    Jerome.                      
1568.3KERNEL::FISCHERII'm not from BusheyTue Oct 15 1991 14:326
re .-1

You took the words out of my mouth (finger)!


ian
1568.4A reply from one of those PlonkersJUMBLY::RICHARDSTue Oct 15 1991 16:3250
    Ref this subject.
    
    As the owner and driver of the red Sierra, D420 YRX I take exception to
    being called a Plonker.  When I parked my car this morning I did so in
    such a way as to leave an adequate gap between my vehicle and
    the Black Nova that was already parked well over the white lines.  Now
    unfortunately this put the nearside (for you sprogs that's the left hand 
    side when viewed from the driver's seat whilst facing forwards) of my car 
    about a foot over the white lines of the parking box.  I was well aware of
    this.
    
    I suppose in Mr Batterbee's world what I should have done is ignored
    the remainder of the box in which the Nova had a foothold and parked
    properly in the next available box.  The fact that this would have
    wasted about 5 feet of perfectly good parking space seems to have
    escaped the originator of this note.  Also, as we are talking about the
    far end of a row in which there was only 7-8 proper car spaces left anyway,
    it would have made more sense for everybody to follow the lead of the Nova
    and consequently me, and allow 7 of those 8 cars to park.  As it was, some 
    like mind (to Mr Batterbee) decided that he would park between the
    lines, presumably to make a point, and this effectively reduced the 
    remaining parking space to 5 cars.
    
    Now whilst I agree that bad parking can really get up peoples noses and
    in a lot of cases can be positively dangerous, being called a Plonker
    is even more irritating and can often make peoples' noses bleed. 
    
    p.s.
    
    Parking is a sore point with me as in the past I have even had to
    threaten people with court action over parking on my property.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Only joking about the nose bleed Jerome 
    
    Paul   
                                    
1568.5Where the cap fitsYUPPY::RAVENTue Oct 15 1991 17:218
    REPLY to 1568.0 
    
    I didn't know that DEC Park had a car park attendant .
    
    ( Tongue in cheek symbol )
    
    
                        KR
1568.6FORTY2::NAYLERMike NaylerWed Oct 16 1991 11:3117


Don't worry Paul some people are just always right and the rest of us mere
mortals are just destined to be wrong.  I mean how could you possibly have 
a reason for parking the way you did........unthinkable.........






			Mike.


I wonder if I'll be told that I must reverse may car into its parking place
as well as getting it between the white lines. 
1568.7Any more plonkers ?JUMBLY::BATTERBEEJKinda lingers.....Wed Oct 16 1991 11:4614
    OK Paul, I had a feeling that a person who puts cossie wheels on
    his Sierra probably does take an interest in cars and would take
    exception to being called a plonker. I did suspect that what Paul 
    explained was the case, but if I'd been you Paul, I would have 
    parked further up the spaces and made other people look bad. I 
    retrospectively denominate Paul as joint Plonker of the Day. That 
    has nothing to do with bleeding noses....honest (insert clucking
    noises here). I think the people who didn't reply proved what I said
    the basenote.
    
    Has anyone got any nominations for todays plonker?
    
                             
    Jerome the self appointed car park attendant.  :-)
1568.8Reverse Gear - What reverse gear?JUMBLY::RICHARDSWed Oct 16 1991 12:335
    Mike
    
    I didn't realise that they fitted reverse gear on Reliant Robins
    
    Paul 
1568.9Get to work earlier!!! :^)NEWOA::SAXBYAye. When I were a lad....Wed Oct 16 1991 12:356
1568.10One Cobra assault cannon please.JUMBLY::BATTERBEEJKinda lingers.....Wed Oct 16 1991 13:3015
    >How about anyone who gets so worked up about how others park that
    >they feel a whole note should be dedicated to abusing them? :^)
    
    So you not be in the least bit peeved if you had to park at the
    opposite end of the car park to the building when it was pouring
    with rain all because of bad parking. Is so, you must be so laid
    back that your lying down. :-)  Seriously though, its also the 
    attitude "Oh I couln't give a t*ss" which annoys me as well. The 
    same type of attitude that clogs up the overtaking lanes on the 
    motorway, that leaves their fogs lights on all day, that reverses
    back down slip roads.......
    
    
    Jerome who'll probably die prematurely of stress. :-( 
    
1568.11KERNEL::SHELLEYROn the bank of brinkruptcyWed Oct 16 1991 13:373
1568.12The laid back one speaks.NEWOA::SAXBYAye. When I were a lad....Wed Oct 16 1991 13:5411
    
    Heh, Jerome, lighten up and chill out! :^)
    
    When I worked at DEC park I always parked in the top bay of the first
    crescent in. How? Well I always left home early enough not to have to 
    worry about where to park. 
    
    If you're worried about getting wet I can recommend a very good
    umbrella sales outlet. :^)
    
    Mark
1568.13Parking too close drives me madVANGA::KERRELLDave Kerrell @RDL 830-5279Wed Oct 16 1991 14:120
1568.14Lucky, you don't know how luckyBAHTAT::HILTONHow's it going royal ugly dudes?Wed Oct 16 1991 14:466
    Up north we have to share 1 parking space per 10 employees, and I have
    to get up 5 hours before I go to bed, lick road clean with tongue, and
    live in a shoe box in middle of road
    
    
    :^)
1568.15Oh silly me, I was wrong all along !JUMBLY::BATTERBEEJKinda lingers.....Wed Oct 16 1991 14:4820
    re : .13,  Dave, are you nominating yourself as plonker of the day? :-)
    
    Anyway, I'm suprised that something like bad parking doesn't evoke
    a greater response in condemning the practice, when something like
    leaving fog lights on prompts dozens of replies.  I conclude that
    I am the only person that finds bad parking in the least bit annoying
    and therefore nominate myself as plonker of the day for being so
    silly as to start this note.  As bad parking is irrelevant I shall
    now start to park badly as I know it doesn't annoy anyone. So, if you
    see a white GTE taking up three spaces you will all know its me.
    
       I am now lightening up at the request of a fellow noter. 
    
    I am now looking forward to another 65 years of parking badly as I
    am now so "lightened up" I shall live to an old age. Just think how
    many times I can park badly over 65 years. At an average of once a day
    thats 23,741.25 times.  Happy parking noters :-) :-) :-)
    
    
    Jerome.
1568.16FORTY2::NAYLERMike NaylerWed Oct 16 1991 15:5716



	erm, where does the .25 come from? Can you park .25 of a time.....





Paul,

	What where you saying about noses....


			Mike
1568.17?SHIRE::GOLDBLATTWed Oct 16 1991 18:141
    totally irrelevant and all that, but what's a plonker ?
1568.18I can't wait to start parking badlyJUMBLY::BATTERBEEJKinda lingers.....Wed Oct 16 1991 18:1715
    re : .16
    
    The  .25 comes from taking leap years into account ie
    
       65 x 365.25 = 23,741.25
    
    I thought that some smarty pants would take me to task if I forgot
    about leap years.  Also, I reckon that after 65 years of parking
    badly, I'm sure I'll find a way to park .25 of a time. Like only
    put the first quarter of the car in the space and leave the rest 
    sticking out and blocking passage past. Not that anyone would find
    this in the least bit irritating :-)
    
    
    Jerome the light.
1568.19Noses, Bloody NosesJUMBLY::RICHARDSWed Oct 16 1991 18:358
    re .18
    
    Jerome 
    
    I wouldn't try parking JUST the nose of your car like that because
    before too long somebody would be trying to do something to your nose.
    
    I don't know, it's always the noses that suffer.
1568.20Dork of the DayJUMBLY::BATTERBEEJKinda lingers.....Wed Oct 16 1991 18:5615
    But why Paul?  As bad parking doesn't annoy anyone, then why
    would someone want to do something to my nose. Maybe a roving
    plastic surgeon.  Maybe the bloke that broke my nose the other
    week. Maybe the phantom nose picker.   :-)
    
    
    re : .17 
    
    Plonker is a polite(ish) way of calling someone an idiot. The
    word is also used as a non-swear word that refers to the male
    member. Not that I had that in mind of course. I imagine the
    nearest US slang equivalent would be dork.
    
    
    Jerome.
1568.21So being called and Enormous Plonker is a complement?TASTY::NISBETDELETE/TOO_LATE DOCDB.DAT;Wed Oct 16 1991 19:011
    
1568.22JUMBLY::RICHARDSWed Oct 16 1991 19:137
    re .21
    
    It depends on what you do with your enormous idiot.
    
    
    
    Hang on a minute - did I get something wrong?
1568.23MARVIN::RUSLINGHastings Upper Layers Project LeaderWed Oct 16 1991 19:158
	I hesitate to join in for being nominated a car park attendant, but
	what about the car (carefully naming no names) that regularly parks
	neatly over the yellow lines just as you round the corner of DECpark II
	on the way to the engineering entrance?  This person cannot be bothered
	to park properly 20 yards (sorry metres) away.

	Dave
1568.24Things that go bump in the car parkPLAYER::WINPENNYWed Oct 30 1991 15:037
    
    I agree. Taking up two parking spaces is annoying.
    
    BUT... Not as annoying as the total plonkers who try to take up two
           spaces while your car is still in one of them.
    
    Chris
1568.25An accident is one thing, lying about it is another !CRATE::RUTTERThe Joy Of Six(es)Wed Oct 30 1991 16:3214
1568.26It CAN happen!NEWOA::SAXBYAye. When I were a lad....Wed Oct 30 1991 16:4010
    
    I was that plonker once (not your car though, John :^))
    
    I opened the door on my Renault 5 once and, sure enough, the wind
    tore it from my hand and BANG! into the door of a neighbour's Renault
    25! Fortunately the 25 is made of sturdier stuff than the 5 and their
    was no damage to either car (PHEW!). I doubt I'll have this problem
    with the Calibra as each door seems to weigh about as much as a R5 GTT!
    
    Mark
1568.27Flaming on a bit hereCRATE::RUTTERThe Joy Of Six(es)Wed Oct 30 1991 17:4128
1568.28Sounds like he was a very nice man!NEWOA::SAXBYAye. When I were a lad....Wed Oct 30 1991 17:5710
    
    Re .27
    
    I reckon you were dead lucky.
    
    You'd've had a hell of a job PROVING it was him who'd done the damage
    if he'd not owned up and you would almost certainly have ended up out
    of pocket.
    
    Mark
1568.29And tonights videofits are ...CRATE::LEECHIf only it were a Honda !Wed Oct 30 1991 18:0311
>>    I reckon you were dead lucky.
>>    
>>>    You'd've had a hell of a job PROVING it was him who'd done the damage
>>    if he'd not owned up and you would almost certainly have ended up out
>>    of pocket.
    
    Not really, all you would need to do is ask to look at the video from
    the security cameras mounted in the car park.
    
    Shaun.
    
1568.30That's the best laugh I've had in ages!!HEWIE::RUSSELLHari Krishna, Hari Ramsden, Hari HariWed Oct 30 1991 18:068
re .29;

    >>Not really, all you would need to do is ask to look at the video from
    >>the security cameras mounted in the car park.

I've got this wonderful bridge in London I can sell you, too...

Peter.
1568.31A definite hit, rather than door opening damageCRATE::RAWSONWatching birth puts you off red meatWed Oct 30 1991 18:258
>    Not really, all you would need to do is ask to look at the video from
>    the security cameras mounted in the car park.

	Well how do I get these tapes, 'cos someone has bashed the front 
	wing of my car in SBP. I now have some white paint on my blue car.
	Who's got a white car in SBP ?

	Alex :^(
1568.32CRATE::LEECHIf only it were a Honda !Wed Oct 30 1991 18:285
>>                 -< That's the best laugh I've had in ages!! >-
    
    Laugh though you may, it *IS* true, and I have seen it !
    
    Shaun.
1568.33CRATE::LEECHIf only it were a Honda !Wed Oct 30 1991 18:297
>>    	Well how do I get these tapes
    
    Ring 2424 and ask security about them.
    
    Shaun.
    
    
1568.34Sure it isn't grey primer ?CRATE::RUTTERThe Joy Of Six(es)Wed Oct 30 1991 18:317
1568.35Who me ? No ! Oh, all right it was.SUBURB::JASPERTTue Nov 12 1991 15:276
    ...If you want to see the carpark video, report it to
    security/facilities asap. This happened to me & I was able to collect
    from the third party who firstly denied it ! His manager persuaded him
    that it is better settled out of court. Long live security cameras.
    
    	Tony.
1568.36A guy down the chip shop swears he's Bob Maxwell !TRUCKS::BEATON_SI Just Look InnocentWed Nov 13 1991 15:3325
    Anyone else notice the phenomenon of the punter who needs another car
    to park next to ?
    
    When entering a public car park (and this includes SBP) I always make
    for an unpopular section of that car park in the (sometimes hopeless)
    hope that this will prevent anyone parking next to my car. This works
    for 99% of the time in SBP, but invariably you can come back to your
    car to find the same section of car park devoid of cars bar your own
    vehicle... oh and the car now parked on the driver's side of your
    car... and if you're really unlucky there will be someone's car parked
    on your passenger side as well.
    
    If a car park is pretty much full of cars then I'll try and find an end
    slot and park as far over to the end of the end slot as possible.  This
    can sometimes backfire as you may come back to your vehicle to find the
    next person along has decided to ignore the white lines marking his/her
    space and instead has parked as close to your vehicle as possible...
    easier to line up then you see.
    
    Despite these measures my car has been knocked twice in SBP's car park.
    
    Nothing like a good gripe after lunch...
    
    
    Stephen
1568.37Ho HO HOLARVAE::HUTCHINGS_PManchester CityWed Nov 13 1991 16:125
    And that was _NOTHING_ like a good gripe....
                                                .
                                                 .
                                                  :-) :-) :-) :-)
    
1568.38CURRNT::PACE::RUTTERIts a Bad Original SystemWed Nov 13 1991 16:4217
>>    Anyone else notice the phenomenon of the punter who needs another car
>>    to park next to ?
    
    Just like on holiday :
    
    	Find a long empty beach
    
    	Choose suitable spot on it
    
    	Relax in solitude
    
    	Then, some other bum comes and plonks themself right next to you ;-(
    
    	Solution, get up and move to almost any other part of the beach,
    	which will still be empty...  until another bum comes along
    
    J.R.
1568.39UPROAR::EVANSGGwyn Evans @ IME - Open DECtradeWed Nov 13 1991 17:079
    Look at it from the other point of view...
    
    	If I park in a parking space with empty bays on either side, that
    gives two other people chances to scrape the side of my car. If I
    chose a space with cars on either side, then I should be safer!
    
     (_I_ assume that people are less likely to scrape the side of my car
      when leaving a space than when entering one... Wonder if that's true?) 
    
1568.40VANGA::KERRELLDave Kerrell @REO 830-2279Wed Nov 13 1991 20:019
Re.39:

>_I_ assume that people are less likely to scrape the side of my car
>     when leaving a space than when entering one... Wonder if that's true?) 

Depends on whther they reversed in or not. If they did reverse in your safe.

/Dave.    
1568.41PLAYER::BROWNLIt's all gone very quiet...Wed Nov 13 1991 20:109
1568.42Translation for Capn. GrammarVANGA::KERRELLDave Kerrell @REO 830-2279Thu Nov 14 1991 11:124
re.41:

It depends on whether they reversed in or not. If they did reverse in then you
are safe to park next to them.
1568.43SBPUS4::MARKI wanna be a slug......Thu Nov 14 1991 11:195

Ah, but what happens when it looks like they reversed in, but because there are
two lines of cars face to face, they actually drove in forwards from the other
side ? Are you safe then ? And how about your car ?
1568.44I'm a front-first manWELLIN::NISBETDougie Nisbet 7853 4334Thu Nov 14 1991 13:339
I always park next to another car. There must be some deep seated
psychological reason for this. Anyway, a car park scattered with cars in a
random distribution looks scruffy.

And I always drive in forward. Why do people drive in forward, and others
reverse in? So many mysteries.

Dougie
 
1568.45UPROAR::EVANSGGwyn Evans @ IME - Open DECtradeThu Nov 14 1991 14:113
    	Well, I normally reverse in as I find that I can get into spaces
    easier that way, together with the fact that I prefer not to have to
    reverse out into the traffic when I leave.
1568.46Right 35, left 46, right 24.....JUMBLY::BATTERBEEJKinda lingers.....Thu Nov 14 1991 15:129
    It seems to me that a lot of people that reverse into spaces
    shouldn't have bothered. Anyway, surely the best way to park
    is across three spaces.  :-)
    
    Parking in a safe sounds like an answer to car theft. Until the
    toerag thieves learn to safe break that is.
    
    
    Jerome.
1568.47Practical answer...HABS11::MASONExplaining is not understandingThu Nov 14 1991 22:444
    If it weren't for cars seeking each other out to park next to, where
    would all the minis come from?
    
    Cheers...Gary
1568.48Army policy not polocyCURRNT::PAYNE_AHangover=The Wrath of GrapesFri Nov 15 1991 16:169
    I always reverse in to car park spaces ever since I borrowed my boss's
    car at a previous job and parked it in an inward facing position. He was
    an ex-army man and gave me a very painful 'dead-leg' because I had
    parked it facing inwards, due to the fact that "in a bomb-scare, it
    would take a few-seconds longer to get out if parked inwards". Now,
    this may be common polocy in the army, but if there was a bomb scare, I
    wouldn't bother getting my car out!
    
    Andy
1568.49Cock up on the adjustment to civilian life front?NEWOA::SAXBYWho left the O out of discount?Fri Nov 15 1991 16:194
    
    Presumably this man is now in a suitable institution?
    
    Mark
1568.50lamppostsHUGH::RAYNERTSysman&gt;@REO/LOC=G2Mon Nov 18 1991 11:244
    I always park next to Lampposts (read NEXT to), this avoids people
    bashing into your car, especially supermarket trollies. I do however,
    have problems in DECpark, as you have to park sideways in two spaces,
    to be next to the posts. 
1568.51RTOVC0::CBUTCHERI am a full groan manMon Nov 18 1991 11:3919
1568.52Just when I was settling down!!HUGH::RAYNERTSysman&gt;@REO/LOC=G2Mon Nov 18 1991 20:209
    Chris,
    
    The car parks are just not the same in England...along with the trains,
    the bier, and I miss the tomatoe club when miss @@ is on!!
    
    Tony, sufferring_withdrawl_symptoms_already
          but_is_getting_a_new_car
          but_its_not_an_elan
    
1568.53BT @@ Works for me and DWC.RTOVC0::CBUTCHERI am a full groan manTue Nov 19 1991 10:1911
    I can understand the point about @@. I'll wander in with DWC tonight
    and drool a little for you. The car parks aren't the same you say, I'm
    pretty certain that they'll let you have your job back at Daglfing
    anytime you want, just don't sleep on the job again, or the spew come
    to think of it. So what's the new motor then me old mate, girlie,
    talked you into four doors and a back seat that can be utilised for
    carrying devices for baby Rayner's ?
    
    	Chris, suffering_from_a_night_out_with_IC_and
    		hung_over_to_death_and_thinking_of_a_wind
    		up_for_the_R5GTTurbo_guys_who_rise_to_bait
1568.54Had to mention this one...SUBURB::VEALESSimon Veale - DEC Park, ReadingTue Nov 19 1991 10:347
    Seen today in DEC Park car park... a Citroen 2CV parked with its back
    end JUST in the parking space, its front end out in the middle of the
    bay.
    
    Either driver = plonker, or handbrake = knackered
    
    :-)
1568.55UPROAR::EVANSGGwyn Evans @ IME - Open DECtradeTue Nov 19 1991 11:074
    Lift up the front and push it back?   :-)
    
    One of the few cars that you can easily bump start on your own...
    
1568.56You don't bump start 2CV's...HEWIE::RUSSELLHari Krishna, Hari Ramsden, Hari HariWed Nov 20 1991 18:025
re .55;

you use the starting handle, like wot it was designed for.

peter	(who has started 2CV's in the past like that!)