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1523.1 | | SHIPS::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Tue Aug 06 1991 12:34 | 10 |
1523.2 | Everything in life IS as reliable as a VW | VOGON::NUTLEY | | Tue Aug 06 1991 13:19 | 22 |
| I'm beginning to doubt the marketing strategy of VW based on
'reliability'.
My 16V GTI is a year old with 10,000 miles and since
I've had it it's had an intermittent problem where the engine 'hunts' up
and down in a cycle from about 200 to 1500 revs - sometimes it stalls and
the only way to retstart it is with full throttle. The problem will
usually cure itself within a few minutes and it usually happens once
a week on average.
It's been back to the dealer five times, its had a new Idle stabilization
valve, and warm up regulator fitted but they can't cure it! Of course
when it goes into the garage it behaves itself! Actually the garage
have been very good about the whole thing - it's now mystifying them
and the next move is for them to transport it to VW at Milton Keynes
for them to look at it.
The 16V uses the k-Jetronic (mechanical) fuel injection so there's no
computer to misbehave (although there is a small control unit for the
idle stab valve, but they've checked that).
-Roy
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1523.3 | | METSYS::WINNETT | Oui 3 Ski - I'd rather be skiing | Tue Aug 06 1991 14:38 | 18 |
| Well, I've got a 4 year old Golf GTI with 100,000 miles on the clock, I have
found the car very reliable, starts first time every time (touch wood...) and
apart from the usual tyres/battery/exhaust replacements has been relatively
cheap to service and run.
However, sometimes (usually after a service) the revs do hunt between 700 and
1200 rpm after a motorway run - this is usually cured by adjusting the idle
slightly - the garages seem to adjust it on a warm not a hot engine. The
tickover then sits quite happily at 1100rpm until the next service. I have also
found that different dealers have their calibration equipment at different
states of 'tune' (drifts with time and temperature etc) so that a supposedly
perfect setup from a service gave out of setup readings at a different dealer
(I watched the second CO calibration) a couple of days later.
Do you get your 'hunting' problem when the engine is hot afer a long/hard drive
??
Nigel
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1523.4 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | if (!joke) { | Tue Aug 06 1991 14:49 | 9 |
1523.5 | 'Hunting'
| VOGON::NUTLEY | | Tue Aug 06 1991 14:56 | 14 |
1523.6 | The final antidote? | VOGON::NUTLEY | | Tue Aug 06 1991 15:43 | 10 |
1523.7 | | METSYS::WINNETT | Oui 3 Ski - I'd rather be skiing | Tue Aug 06 1991 16:23 | 6 |
| re .4
Whats wrong with 1100rpm tickover ??
Nigel (who suspects you read it as 11000rpm... now that would be a little high
:-)
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1523.8 | Is AIR the culprit? | ARRODS::KINGSTONT | | Tue Aug 06 1991 16:54 | 17 |
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RE Variable tickover speeds.
I had this problem on my series three landrover, cut out when hot, rpm
varying from 500 to 1000.
It all came down to a very small air leak at the carburettor/manifold
joint, impossible to hear when the engine was running but there all the
same.
Problem solved with the use of a new gasket and Hermatite Instant
Gasket.
Now ticks over at 600rpm warm or hot.
Tony
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1523.9 | Judder?..check the tyres first! | IRNBRU::WILSON | | Tue Aug 06 1991 17:30 | 14 |
| I'd worry more about your judder.
Firstly; check the state of your tyres. I don't just mean the tread
level. Look for flat-spots, where the casing has bust.
My Audi had a really bad judder. The garage checked everything, until
finally they rotated the rear wheels and found a flat spot!. The tread
wear was minimal, but the tyre had failed internally.
I changed the tyre....guess what? it drove like new again.
This may sound rather silly, but you'd be surprised just what a busted
tyre can do!
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1523.10 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | if (!joke) { | Tue Aug 06 1991 17:39 | 17 |
1523.11 | Hey, with that tickover you can pull away with no throttle | KETJE::SHASTA::RUTTER | I'm Back 'Ome in September | Tue Aug 06 1991 19:23 | 13 |
1523.12 | VW Carb kit Solution ! | ESSB::NEAVYN | European Software Supply Business, Galway, Ireland | Tue Aug 06 1991 20:51 | 16 |
| I used to have an '81 GOLF with 125,000 miles on the clock and it
appears that I had the same problem as yourself. I took the car to an
engine tuning specialist here in Galway there is only the one really
and he told me that I either needed a VW carb kit which comprises of a
new set of jets and seals at a cost of IR32 punts not including the
fitting, or the rubber mounting between the carb and intake manifold
IR60 punts. I didn't actually get the chance to have the work done as
the car was written off soon after. However I reckoned that getting a
new carb and rubber in a scrap yard. I think that you have another
problem with the juddering (can you feel this through the steering) going
around left-hand bends as the carb etc. only affects the engine both
tickover and pickup.
Cheers,
Denis...
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1523.13 | More juds | VICTOR::RDGTMP | | Mon Aug 12 1991 17:15 | 22 |
| <<< Note 1523.12 by ESSB::NEAVYN "European Software Supply Business, Galway, Ireland" >>>
-< VW Carb kit Solution ! >-
The VW Carb kit Solution sounds like something to look into.
I don't think the juddering has got anything to do with tyres or other
suspension related problems. I'll explain again what happens. The actual
judder or maybe I'll call it engine keeping back, it just stops going for a
second, starts in or after a fast lefthander. After this has occured it will
continue to do so for about half a mile. It will go alright but irregularly it
will stop for a second and on low speeds (10 m/h) or when I depress the clutch
pedal it will actually stall. I think it is either the carburettor or some kind
of electrical problem. The carburettor is the main suspect though.
P.S.
A useful Golf tip. It is very simple to take the rear seat out of the car.
(We are moving at the moment.) If you tip the seat forward and follow the two
black bars on either side, you will see they have a clip that can easily be
removed. As they are the only two things holding the seat it can then be taken
out. Be careful though not to damage your car with the two bars.
Derek
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