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1410.1 | Toyota MR2 GT T-Bar 1200 mile report | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, EIS Birmingham UK | Sat Apr 06 1991 16:52 | 228 |
1410.2 | 7,000 miles no problems | BHUNA::DMCGREGOR | | Tue Apr 09 1991 14:25 | 7 |
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How do you lock the boot to stop passenger-area entry allowing entry
to the boot ??????.
Dougie_who_hasn`t_had_time_to_read_the_manual.
p.s. Didn`t know there was a map-pocket behind the seat either...!!
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1410.3 | remote disable | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, EIS Birmingham UK | Tue Apr 09 1991 16:44 | 8 |
| To open the boot, you either insert the key and turn clockwise or pull
the remote lever beside the drivers seat (you know this!).
If you turn the key anti-clockwise in the lock, it disables the remote
lever, and the boot can only be opened by using the key (by turning it
a bit more clockwise than normal).
mb
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1410.4 | Price ? | CEEOSI::WILTSHIRE | Dave - Networks Conformance Eng. | Wed Apr 10 1991 02:24 | 4 |
| How close is the cost of an MR2 GT T-Bar to the 19,250 quid tax penalty ?
-Dave.
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1410.5 | Room to spare! | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, EIS Birmingham UK | Wed Apr 10 1991 12:33 | 10 |
1410.6 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | RS with the RS (Spanish tin can) | Wed Apr 10 1991 12:54 | 8 |
1410.7 | Even Worse | SUBURB::GROOMN | Swimmers like a length in the pool | Wed Apr 10 1991 14:00 | 6 |
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Sure is the full on-the-road price, and is the price at the time of
delivery, not what the Lease Co pays.....
Nev.
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1410.8 | No worry | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, EIS Birmingham UK | Wed Apr 10 1991 14:14 | 6 |
| Nevertheless,
You are still safe with the GT T-Bar (unless you start adding Air
Conditioning and the like!).
mb
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1410.9 | Differences to the New Celica? | SUBURB::SCREENER | Robert Screene, UK Finance EUC | Wed Apr 10 1991 16:37 | 10 |
1410.10 | Celicas are nice too! | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, EIS Birmingham UK | Wed Apr 10 1991 18:00 | 13 |
| Off the top of my head, the standard Celica has power steering,
headlamp washers, 2 more seats (baby seat size!), the same engine,
no front foglamps, no T-Bar roof, no leather-seats, a bigger boot,
205 tyres both rear AND front, no pop-up headlamps ...
Thats all i can think of now.
The Celica does offer more, and was actually cheaper on the lease
scheme than the MR2 GT T-Bar even though list price is more.
I still chose the MR2 though!
mb
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1410.11 | | CEEOSI::WILTSHIRE | Dave - Networks Conformance Eng. | Wed Apr 10 1991 18:05 | 19 |
1410.12 | | VOGON::ATWAL | | Wed Apr 10 1991 18:13 | 6 |
| >> 205 tyres both rear AND front, no pop-up headlamps ...
they have got pop-up lamps
...art
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1410.13 | Theres more .... | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, EIS Birmingham UK | Thu Apr 11 1991 11:30 | 9 |
| art,
oops, you are right, the Celica has pop-ups, though i can't understand
the need for headlamp washers in that case!
Oh, and the MR2 comes with a "Security alarm system" as standard but
the Celica gets ABS.
mb
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1410.14 | | FORTY2::BETTS | X.500 Development | Thu Apr 11 1991 11:41 | 8 |
|
I think the real difference between the two Toyotas has more to do
with character than components. A mid engined sports car is bound
to feel different to a front engined, front wheel drive, coupe. If
you appreciate that difference, you may prefer the MR2. If you don't,
go for the Celica...
Bill.
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1410.15 | | SHIPS::SAXBY_M | Smoke me a kipper... | Thu Apr 11 1991 11:46 | 9 |
1410.16 | One more thing | MINDER::POWELL | | Fri Apr 12 1991 16:13 | 10 |
| One other difference
The MR2 is one of the best looking cars on the road
The Celica is the worst...
A bit of a shame when the old Celica was a very well proportioned
beast, still I s'pose thats progress for you :-)
G.P
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1410.17 | | SHIPS::SAXBY_M | Smoke me a kipper... | Fri Apr 12 1991 17:26 | 6 |
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Re .16
Here, here.
Mark
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1410.18 | | FORTY2::BETTS | X.500 Development | Fri Apr 12 1991 17:52 | 8 |
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I suspect I'll grow to like the new Celica's shape. Eventually.
That said, the new MR2 is attractive, but I still prefer the
older model. Anyone know where I can get a supercharged old
style MR2?
Bill.
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1410.19 | Eye of the beholder. | SHIPS::SAXBY_M | Smoke me a kipper... | Fri Apr 12 1991 17:56 | 8 |
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Re .18
Try the US Airbases (well local papers from the surrounding areas).
Failing that talk to a car broker if you want a RHD model from Japan.
Mark
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1410.20 | If u go fast enough u don`t get wet. | BHUNA::DMCGREGOR | | Fri Apr 12 1991 18:07 | 6 |
|
Have you noticed that when you drive the car with the roof off when
it`s lashing down with rain,water drips off the windscreen surround
onto the leccy windows/mirrors controls?Bit of a design fault eh 8*)
8*)
Doogz.
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1410.21 | Going faster (if possible) just makes it worse | CHEST::RUTTER | Rut-The-Nut | Fri Apr 12 1991 18:16 | 6 |
1410.22 | I go swimming. | MCGRUE::FRENCHS | Semper in excernere | Fri Apr 12 1991 18:34 | 6 |
| When It rains, I wear:
In the summer; swimming costume
In the winter; lots of waterproofs
in the landrover
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1410.23 | | TASTY::JEFFERY | I shot the sherrif (and the deputy!) | Fri Apr 12 1991 20:04 | 2 |
| That was a major gripe of the MR2 that I borrowed. At any speed, I used to get
water come in through the drivers window, if I used the washer.
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1410.24 | | CHEFS::CLEMENTSD | Public Sector and Telecomms | Mon Apr 15 1991 13:11 | 1 |
| Tried closing it, Mark?........ ;^)
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1410.25 | Open the door, turn the alarm off ? | CEEOSI::WILTSHIRE | Dave - Networks Conformance Eng. | Thu May 09 1991 02:41 | 6 |
| What's the point of the MR2 having a burglar alarm that's deactivated
by the door key ??? All the cars I've had nicked had the lock barrel
removed.....so wouldn't that turn the MR2's alarm off at the same time?
-Dave.
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1410.26 | Don't spread the word ... | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, {watch this space} Birmingham UK | Thu May 09 1991 12:07 | 6 |
| Shhhhh!
I am not going to try destructive testing on this one. I am guessing
that the lock is a little more complex than a simple barrel mechanism.
mb
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1410.27 | | MASALA::DMCGREGOR | | Thu May 09 1991 13:14 | 6 |
|
I assumed that the standard alarm was just a wee basic alarm,fitted
to deter people from leaning in thru an open roof and manually
opening the door.If I wished a fancy alarm I can fit one but for now
I can leave the car sitting in a relatively safe area with the roof
off,windows down.I think it`s a good thing.
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1410.28 | MR2 OR NOT MR2, I'M GOING 2 | UKCSSE::RWALKER | | Mon May 13 1991 13:28 | 61 |
1410.29 | | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, {watch this space} Birmingham UK | Mon May 13 1991 14:57 | 20 |
1410.30 | It's a classic ! | CEEOSI::WILTSHIRE | Dave - Networks Conformance Eng. | Tue May 14 1991 03:29 | 11 |
| The MR2 is a great car, but give me the Astra 16V engine any day. The
Toyota engine just doesn't seem to have the same pulling power...or
perhaps it's the gearing.
The convex wing mirrors are the biggest problem (to me!)....... Oh for flat
glass.......
But, it's a fun car - no mistake.
-Dave.
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1410.31 | Flashy "vans" | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, {watch this space} Birmingham UK | Thu May 16 1991 10:41 | 12 |
| I borrowed a Calibra the other weekend ('cos you can't fit a patio
table in an MR2) which has the same engine as the Astra 16V (?).
I must admit that i was impressed by the amount of torque, it pulls
strongly from well below 1000rpm, and i never really had to take the
engine above 2000rpm while pottering around town.
Aside from the nice engine though, nothing else compared!
;-)
mb
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1410.32 | There is NOTHING to compare! | NEWOA::SAXBY | Proust? Does he note in CARS_UK? | Thu May 16 1991 12:01 | 7 |
1410.33 | | COMICS::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs & some nuts | Thu May 16 1991 12:22 | 13 |
1410.34 | Best smile I have had all week - thanks.!! | HAMPS::JORDAN | Chris Jordan, Digital Services - Office Consultant, London | Thu May 16 1991 17:46 | 1 |
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1410.35 | Bargain basement | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, {watch this space} Birmingham UK | Thu May 16 1991 18:32 | 11 |
1410.37 | You don't buy a car JUST to go sideways! | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, {watch this space} Birmingham UK | Sun Jun 09 1991 14:53 | 52 |
| Did you not have an MR2 (old style) some time ago? How did it compare
with the new one?
Impressions of the cars handling depend very much on what car you are
used to driving. Coming from the R5GTt i found it very hard to get used
to the softer and less responsive feel of the MR2, but now after 3
months my driving style has changed sufficiently to enjoy the new car
just as much as the old, but in a different way.
In response to a few of your points ...
>Handling/Steering:
> The MR2 has good handling but suffers from a lack of feel in the
>controls
I agree that the low gearing on the steering spoils the feel, and also
makes quick corrections (in the case of oversteer) difficult.
> In the wet the novice to mid engined driving will have to be very
>careful as the back will pop out very quickly without a great deal of warning.
I still consider myself very much a novice to mid-engined driving, so i
try to drive well within the car's (and my) limits. Even so, yesterday
evening coming back from Reading across country in the pouring rain, i
found myself taking long corners at high speed without feeling that the
car was going to swap ends. It was only at VERY high speeds that the
car started to feel as if it was balanced in the middle, and liable to
start hanging out the back end, but we are talking speeds considerably
higher than the speed limit and in the wet.
The MR2 has far better handling than my BMW 325i, which felt as though
you were on a knife-edge at the limit, with NO return from the far
side.
> Power steering on mid engined road car is ridiculous
The MR2 definitely DOES NOT HAVE power steering!!!!!
> The car was quite quick off the mark but not brilliant, as shown by the
>published acceleration times.
The car does not _feel_ fast, but it _is_ quicker than the R5GTt and
the BMW 325i (old model). Is 6.7 seconds to 60mph too slow?
Of course the MR2 has its faults. The Calibra has a better engine,
the R5GGt has better sideways seat support, the Ferrari F40 is faster,
a Luton van has more luggage capacity (in fact a Wartberg has more
luggage capacity!). Even so, i like it. What other cars are you
considering instead of the MR2?
Martin (me! biased?) Bell
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1410.38 | Marcos drivers do it at Tescos! | NEWOA::SAXBY | A house! My kingdom for a house! | Mon Jun 10 1991 12:08 | 5 |
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Er, just as a matter of interest, a Marcos has more luggage capacity!
:^)
Mark
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1410.40 | | NEWOA::SAXBY | A house! My kingdom for a house! | Mon Jun 10 1991 14:10 | 9 |
|
Fast Lane has the MR2 GT listed as 7.6 (Toyota figures) for 0-60 which
is slower than Autocar's 0-60 for the R5 GTT (7.2). Max. speed is
listed as 137 mph (again a Toyota claim).
I can personally vouch for the fact that anything which does 0-60 in
over 7 seconds would seem slow to the 23!
Mark
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1410.41 | | AZUR::CHEQUER | An object of orientation | Mon Jun 10 1991 15:19 | 2 |
| T-BAR has all options, even has the new Toyota logo on the steering
wheel.
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1410.42 | | HAMPS::LINCOLN_J | Where sheep dare | Mon Jun 10 1991 15:44 | 5 |
| Just because I'm in a picky, awkward mood lately, I would
like to point out, and not for the first time in this
conference, that MR2s are rear engined cars.
-John
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1410.43 | | FORTY2::BETTS | X.500 Development | Mon Jun 10 1991 15:52 | 6 |
|
In a similarly contrary mood, I'd like to point out that you're
wrong - by the generally accepted definitions of mid and rear,
and normal disclaimers applying, etc etc...
Bill.
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1410.44 | | HAMPS::LINCOLN_J | Where sheep dare | Mon Jun 10 1991 16:07 | 5 |
| If you wish to remain a disciple of marketing hype so be it.
As for the MR2 GT, nice car, shame about the price.
-John
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1410.45 | | AZUR::CHEQUER | An object of orientation | Mon Jun 10 1991 16:44 | 1 |
| so John, how do you determine if a car is Mid engine or rear engine ?
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1410.47 | | DUCK::TAYLORG | Bodybuilders do it till it hurts | Tue Jun 11 1991 12:00 | 4 |
| Mid engine = Engine in front of the rear axle
Rear engine = Engine behind the rear axle (e.g Porsche 911,Alpine GTA).
Grant
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1410.48 | The new Bugatti ? | CRATE::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Tue Jun 11 1991 13:16 | 6 |
1410.49 | | AEOEN2::MATTHEWS | M+M Enterprises. Thats the CATCH 22 | Tue Jun 11 1991 13:57 | 1 |
| A Mini going backwards ...
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1410.50 | :-) | CRATE::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Tue Jun 11 1991 14:16 | 1 |
1410.51 | MR2's Flawed Chassis ? | CEEOSI::WILTSHIRE | Dave - Networks Conformance Eng. | Tue Jul 16 1991 13:16 | 14 |
| Car magazine, in it's 'The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly' section, makes
the following comments about the MR2-GT
For: Amazing Value, stunning body.
Against: Disappointingly flawed chassis
Sum-up: So nearly brilliant.
How does this 'disappointingly flawed chassis' manifest itself ?
-Dave ?
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1410.52 | | VOGON::ATWAL | Dreams, they complicate my life... | Tue Jul 16 1991 13:18 | 10 |
| >> How does this 'disappointingly flawed chassis' manifest itself ?
it does remarkably accurate impressions of spin dryers!
(sorry Bill :-)
...art
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1410.53 | | RUTILE::GUEST | A Wkstn so Powerful it worked. Once. | Tue Jul 16 1991 13:41 | 16 |
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re -1.
I don't think Bill would mind that last comment, assuming he's still
got his old shape MR2.
re -2.
If you cast your mind back a year when the MR2 came out, CAR ran a
test and adorned their front cover with 5 pictures showing a NEW MR2
failing to take a corner succesfully. They decided that the handling
was not up to the older models.
Nigel
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1410.54 | MR2 rantings | FORTY2::BETTS | X.500 Development | Tue Jul 16 1991 14:41 | 13 |
|
The new MR2 is, for want of a better word, a bit soggy. The
combination of steering, which is slightly too slow, and suspension
thats prone to diagonal pitching makes it less responsive and
coherent than the old model.
I've still got my old shape MR2, coming up to 80,000 miles now.
Can't see me changing it when its still going so well. Following
a 2.7 litre 911 in France, the MR2 was almost as quick (and rarer
to boot!); then in Italy, a friend declared it as much fun as the
Alfa Romeo SZ for tackling Stelvio.
Bill.
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1410.55 | | RUTILE::GUEST | A Wkstn so Powerful it worked. Once. | Tue Jul 16 1991 16:13 | 11 |
|
I don't know where you went in Italy Bill, but when in a restaurant in
Monte Cassino (south of Rome), all the restaurant staff piled out to
get a closer look whilst i was trying to order ! Then it was questions
about how much. They seemed disappointed at 25 million Lira.
Done 37,000 miles so far. I see a few more under the belt before i let
it go.
Nigel
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1410.56 | Flawed journalists? | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Mon Jul 22 1991 12:22 | 18 |
| I would agree with Bill that the new MR2 is a little "soggy" in its
handling, by sports car standards, but i wouldn't go as far as to say
"flawed".
The pictures in the cars mags last summer showed MR2's spinning all
over the place - but you can spin just about any vehicle (even track
laying vehicles) if you try hard enough. When the MR2 does start to
slip, you have to be quick to catch it - but you shouldn't
intentionally be drifting cars around corners on public roads anyway!
Just to put things in perspective, i test drove the new Lotus Elan SE
last week, and i would describe it's handling as "sloppy" when compared
with the MR2 - due probably to the power steering.
If the article worries you, get a test drive - and if you like it you
can then wait the 6-8 months for delivery!!!!
mb - stuck with his MR2 for 3 years - oh what a shame ;-)
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1410.57 | MR2 Vs Elan care of TN. | NEWOA::SAXBY | | Mon Jul 22 1991 12:27 | 10 |
|
I seem to remember a Top Gear report which had Tiff Needell driving
both the MR2 and Elan around a steering pan where the Elan just
continued to grip while the MR2 span away.
He prefered the 'excitement' of the MR2, but not everyone can drive
like Tiff Needell (although looking around on the road, you'd believe
they think they can! :^)).
Mark
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1410.59 | not tonight! | BRUMMY::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Mon Jul 22 1991 13:22 | 7 |
| Re: .58
> be desirable to have characteristics which frighten the driver and allow
I frighten myself on straight bits of roads, never mind bends!!!!!
mb
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1410.60 | | CEEOSI::WILTSHIRE | Dave - Networks Conformance Eng. | Mon Jul 22 1991 16:34 | 9 |
| < If the article worries you, get a test drive - and if you like it you
< can then wait the 6-8 months for delivery!!!!
It doesn't really worry me. I was just interested as to the basis of
this 'flaw'. I've had my T-bar for almost 3 months now and think it's
a great car. BTW - delivery was 2-3 weeks !!!
-Dave.
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1410.61 | MR2 GT Review in Motor Sport | CEEOSI::WILTSHIRE | Dave - Networks Conformance Eng. | Tue Sep 03 1991 02:09 | 27 |
| The new MR2 gets a good write up in the August 1991 edition of Motor
Sport. Talking about the handling flaws they said...
"We found no such defect in the Toyota during road, track or
grass track use, the latter allowing us to balance the car in
long power slides with one hand. While we respect those who
have found fault with the model's track manners, we did not
find anything other than a rather uninspired understeer in
a series of of skid pad tests which only emphasised appalling
driving habits......."
"We tried quite a lot of tricks to unstick the back and it simply
did not happen, though we know of one very experienced
journalist who did find the MR2 slewing unexpectedly away from
him at Donington. 'I just decelerated on the way into the first
(Redgate) corner, and it was gone so fast it surprised me', said
the seasoned observer candidly."
Another interesteing comment was:-
"Our MR2 GT provided less absolute driving excitement over twisty
sections than a Peugeot 205/309 GTI, which seems a slight
betrayal of its mid-engine layout."
-Dave.
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1410.62 | 2 cars - both with engine in the right place :-) | WARNUT::RICE | Fall off ? Me ? Nev.............................. | Mon Oct 14 1991 14:18 | 22 |
| October (or is it November ?) CAR magazine has a back-to-back test and
mentions that the new models have different tyres than last year, which
seems to have "cured" the handling "problem".
BTW. Any one who is a regular noter in here or UK_DIGITAL will have
seen my notes about the new car scheme and "How it cost me money"
because my Escort 1.6S got canned. Well this seems an appropriate
topic to admit that the week before last took delivery of a new Solar
Red *MR2 GT* Think I'll now crawl under the desk to avoid all the
"flak" sure to come my way :-)
The reasoning goes something like this
- Cancelling my cheap car meant I couldn't move house this year so I
decided to treat myself, also I found I could (just about) afford to
run my GPX750 after all (see GOOFOF::MOTORCYCLES). I have also decided
to try to get my 1975 VW bug back on the road (see AIRCOOLED conf) for
those occasions when I need 4 seats. If anyone in Warrington with a
large estate/van gets the offer of the loan of an MR2 for the weekend
some time next year you'll know I've decided to move house after all !!
Stevie (Very broke - but happy)
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1410.63 | Cleaner Underware | WELLIN::WARBURTON | | Thu Dec 12 1991 00:58 | 24 |
|
Hi Guys,
Well I've had a MR2 for about 1 year and I would agree with most of
what has been said in the NOTES. But have you tried changing the tires.
If not its worth a shot!!
The CRAP that TOYOTA Uk shod their "Sports Cars" with is a load of
C**P.
Give a set of Yokos a try and
" Loose that quick slide"
and " White Lining"
and " fast rear end break"
and enjoy
"controlled slide"
"no whiting"
"and cleaner underware!!!"
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1410.64 | Depends on where you are coming from ... | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Thu Dec 12 1991 15:54 | 14 |
| Mike,
did you have Continental or Bridgestone tyres fitted previously?
In a recent test done in Performance Car, the RE71s came out top!
mb
p.s.
Surely you must use narrow tyres for "white lining", i reckon that they
are only about 4 inches wide on most roads, or am i missing something like
where the switch is to turn the paint on?????
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1410.65 | ;-) | CURRNT::PACE::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Thu Dec 12 1991 16:55 | 5 |
| >>Surely you must use narrow tyres for "white lining", i reckon that they
If you have a de Lorean, it follows the white lines and sniffs them up !
J.R.
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1410.66 | talk to bikers about 'whitl lining'......:-) | BASCAS::BELL_A1 | | Thu Dec 12 1991 17:08 | 15 |
| RE .64
You may well be missing something. cars rarely suffer from the
effects of white lining, but motorcycles are a different subject. The
effects of white lining are usually that the tyres slide side ways
across the white line, thus loosing friction, thus causing unwanted
loss of intended line. In a car all four corners are castored so the
vehicle stays relatively stable, but try it on a 1000cc superbike that
plants 138bhp through 3sq inches of rubber and you find that the front
wheel slides to the left and the rear wheel spins and slides to the
right. Looks impressive but feels awful.
The cause: thermoplastic road dressing has different frictional
properties than the standard tarmacadam/concrete and tyres find it
quite difficult to grip add water and the problem triples.....
Alan..
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1410.67 | | CURRNT::PACE::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Thu Dec 12 1991 17:33 | 16 |
| >> You may well be missing something. cars rarely suffer from the
>> effects of white lining, but motorcycles are a different subject. The
I can see your point, but beg to differ.
Cars do suffer from 'white lining' problems, but obviously not to
anywhere near the same degree that motorbikes (either the more
powerful versions, or lesser models) will definitely suffer.
The problem arises on cars that have low-profile tyres, especially when
of noticeable width. The car will then be quite happy to try and
tram-line along any surface imperfections (tar or white lines), or to
follow the camber of the road even when the driver doesn't really want to.
J.R.
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1410.68 | minus how much? | VOGON::MITCHELLE | Beware of the green meanie | Thu Dec 12 1991 17:36 | 6 |
| >>
quite difficult to grip add water and the problem triples.....
>>
At this mornings temperatures the problem more than triples....
Elaine
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1410.70 | They're SUPPOSED to be a safety feature! | NEWOA::SAXBY | Is Bart Simpson the anti-Christ? | Thu Dec 12 1991 17:52 | 6 |
|
And those bl**dy yellow lines they put on motorway exits increasingly
close together. Cars with big tyres spend most of their time with no
grip, I find!
Mark
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1410.72 | Pass the WD40........... | MASALA::DMCGREGOR | Hail Hail..the Celts are here ! | Fri Dec 13 1991 19:45 | 21 |
|
Mine died last night on the way home,just driving along when the engine
just conked out.Little "engine" sign lit-up on dash board which
according to the hand-book means "Take car to nearest Toyota dealer"
which is quite difficult if the car is completely dead on the hard
shoulder of the M8.Had the car towed to the nearest service station
and had a quick look.Found the 40A fuse for the AMU(Which I assume is
some sort of engine management system) had blown.Swapped this for the
heater circuit 40A but car still wouldn`t run.
Towed car home and had Toyota dealer pick it up this morning(Which
meant I had to borrow the wife`s car to get to work this morning.....
....The dreaded Astra from Hell!!!!).Phoned him up there and apparently
the "Ignitor unit"(Take it that is the ignition coil in the real world)
was totally full of water.
Weather,although frosty,has been quite dry recently so only thing I can
think of is that MR2`s electrics slowly fill up with water.Has anyone
else had this experience?.Apparently they don`t hold the replacement
part as stock so it`ll have to be brought up from England over-night,
hopefully to be fitted tomorrow.
Suppose the Astra is better than walking(JUST!)
Dougie.
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1410.73 | MR2 | SEDSWS::BOND | Open the pod-bay doors HAL | Fri Jan 24 1992 19:45 | 8 |
| I like the shape of the MR2 GT , except for the rear spoiler . The
basic MR2 , without spoiler , looks a lot better.
Is there much difference in the specification of the MR2 and the MR2 GT.
Anyone driven both models?
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1410.74 | differences | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Fri Jan 24 1992 20:18 | 9 |
| Yup,
GT has a more powerful engine (still 2litres), the other has a CAT.
GT has front fog-lamps and spoiler, tuther hasn't
There are probably a few other minor differences (like price!)
mb
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1410.75 | It takes all sorts I suppose ! | WARNUT::RICE | Red MR2 to match my Red GPX750 :-) | Wed Jan 29 1992 16:49 | 17 |
| <<< Note 1410.73 by SEDSWS::BOND "Open the pod-bay doors HAL" >>>
>> I like the shape of the MR2 GT , except for the rear spoiler . The
>> basic MR2 , without spoiler , looks a lot better.
Well that's your opinion (and you're perfectly entitled of course),
however yours is the first comment I've heard/seen that favours the
base model, in fact I've never SEEN a base model on the road.
Personally, I think it's one of the most "integrated" add-on spoilers
about, I particularily like the way it follows the line of the car when
seen in side elevation.
But then again, I'm biased. :-)
.Stevie. (Red MR2 GT, Red Kawasaki GPX750, Vomit-green Beetle 1300)
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1410.76 | | UFHIS::GVIPOND | | Wed Jan 29 1992 17:29 | 10 |
|
Well here's vote No 2 for the base model. think it looks much better
than the spoilerd version , without its a bit 348'ish which is
proberbly what they wanted to emulate in the first place. I've actually
thought about buying one of these, the only thing putting me offhas
been the interior which on the ones I've seen tend to be very (IMHO)
tacky, and really let down what looks like a very nice motor.
Garry, ( Blue Raleigh, white trollies and brown stripe !! )
|
1410.77 | IMHO | BAHTAT::HILTON | How's it going royal ugly dudes? | Wed Jan 29 1992 17:32 | 9 |
| Just for the heck of it
My wife and I both reeally like ther new MR-2 with a spoiler, but hate
it without!
Just goes to show really, if everyone had the same preferences life
would be dull!
Greg
|
1410.78 | MR2 prices | BIS1::ASSELMAN | Over my dead body | Thu Feb 06 1992 21:51 | 11 |
| for your info :
Current Belgian and Danish MR2 GT prices are available in note 1188.157
Interesting stuff for people who want to import such one can be found
in 1188.132 - 1188.*
rgds,
Hartwig (still driving an old-shape MR2)
|
1410.79 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Don't rate 'em meself | Fri Feb 07 1992 11:42 | 6 |
| Thanks Hartwig.
My need is not pressing, nor am I looking for an MR2. However, I'll
meet you one lunch time; I'm in Keiberg II.
Cheers, Laurie.
|
1410.80 | end of lease MR2? | SUBURB::BLACKMORED | whatever you like | Fri Mar 27 1992 21:26 | 12 |
| Hi,
I'm very interested in purchasing a new-style
MR2 at the end of its DEC-lease.
Does anyone know of one becoming available in
the next three months or so?
Please mail me, David Blackmore @REO.
DTN 7781 1173
Many thanks ...
|
1410.81 | Your hoping! | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Mon Mar 30 1992 16:44 | 4 |
| As they've only been out about a year, it's unlikely that one'll be
available for another 2 years!
Richard
|
1410.82 | 92 MR2GT | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Gary Withall | Sun Nov 22 1992 13:42 | 7 |
|
Anybody notice that you can't open the sun roof at
100 mph ??.
GaryW.
|
1410.83 | | WARNUT::RICE | A human resource | Mon Nov 23 1992 19:27 | 16 |
| <<< Note 1410.82 by KERNEL::WITHALLG "Gary Withall" >>>
-< 92 MR2GT >-
>> Anybody notice that you can't open the sun roof at
>> 100 mph ??.
>> GaryW.
Is this a serious note ? Wouldn't it be too noisy ? (not that any
of us would drive above 70 anyway :-) ).
Do you mean that this is due to air pressure, or what ?
Personally, given the MR2's susceptibility to cross-winds, I don't think
I'd take a hand off the wheel to operate the sunroof at 100+, if I ever
drove at that speed, which of course I don't :-) (Honestly, officer).
Stevie.
|
1410.84 | Sunroof -extra downforce :-)" | BEANO::MCSKEANE | Stairs get me down!!!!!!! | Mon Nov 23 1992 20:13 | 10 |
|
re <<< Note 1410.83 by WARNUT::RICE "A human resource" >>>
>Is this a serious note ? Wouldn't it be too noisy ?
nope, even with the roof off on the T-BAR version you can still hear
the radio playing whilst doing 100 MPH (though you do have to turn it
up pretty LOUD!!!!!!!!)
POL. :-)
|
1410.85 | 200+ HP US version - I feel the need for speed! | STAR::BOIKO | VAX/ALPHA Performance Group - ZKO3/4 | Tue Nov 24 1992 06:10 | 17 |
| Hi,
I just stumbled on this note while looking for the latest word on F1
for next year. I have a 91 MR2 with about 58K miles on it! I still
think it's a great car. Mine has a 130 HP engine which is plenty fast
for me. In the States Toyota sells to models 130 HP non-turbo and the
200 HP turbo. I drove a turbo model with K&N air cleaner and HKS
exhaust system (220+ HP).
No that was a quick car. You have to be VERY careful in the rain, with
it, or else it will break away so fast you'll think you are in a F14 in
a flat spin (remember the movie Top Gun).
One sad note though...I hear that the MR2 will have one more yesr left
and then Toyota will drop the model 8-(
-mike-
|
1410.86 | | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Wed Nov 25 1992 12:00 | 6 |
| Re: .84 T-Bar version
Oh come on now, you may be able to hear the stereo, but i bet that
you can't _open_ the T-Bar when doing 100mph ;-)
mb
|
1410.87 | | BEANO::MCSKEANE | Stairs get me down!!!!!!! | Wed Nov 25 1992 14:40 | 12 |
|
<<< Note 1410.86 by BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL >>>
>Oh come on now, you may be able to hear the stereo, but I bet that
>you can't _open_ the T-Bar when doing 100mph ;-)
I'd hate to try it
I'd have visions of it doing a Michael Schummacher rear wing in Hungary
:-)))))))))))))
POL.
|
1410.88 | | KERNEL::WITHALLG | ' Woublyew .O. K . I . N .GEE ' | Wed Dec 02 1992 15:50 | 34 |
|
Re sun roof at 100 +..
Yup I am serious. I actually thought that the lock had jammed
or something. Then when slowing to 85 ish - whoosh up it goes.
Reading the comments on the radios-
I have trouble hearing mine with all the windows closed and the
roof shut. Full volume is reasonably loud but no where near what
I would call TOO LOUD. I do not get to a distortion point and
0 - 95% volume is real naff.
Another thing with the stereo that someone may be able to help
with is this...
I have a portable car CD player - a SONY CAR DISKMAN. To get
this to work you place an audio output (?) tape into the tape
deck and press play. The trouble is that the tape must play in
one direction for the CD to work. The player in the MR2 plays
both directions and you can't appear to stop it flipping from
side to side and then ejecting the tape ?????????????.
Advice welcome.
Im resigned to changing the stereo for another that I have.
GaryW
|
1410.89 | You don't wear a crash helmet do you? | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Wed Dec 02 1992 16:39 | 11 |
1410.90 | Re: .88 | MAJORS::ALFORD | lying Shipwrecked and comatose... | Wed Dec 02 1992 16:42 | 23 |
|
> I have a portable car CD player - a SONY CAR DISKMAN. To get
> this to work you place an audio output (?) tape into the tape
> deck and press play. The trouble is that the tape must play in
> one direction for the CD to work. The player in the MR2 plays
> both directions and you can't appear to stop it flipping from
> side to side and then ejecting the tape ?????????????.
Is it a Philips ?
If so, I was given the following instructions from one of their technicians at
the NEC car show...I too had this problem.
Put a normal cassette into the player, switch to CASS 1 remove normal
cassette from player. Insert dummy cassette into player, it should now
accept it, hook up your Sony to all the wires etc. - enjoy !
Worked for me !
I am now less annoyed with my Philips RDS radio/cassette than I was...
|
1410.91 | | RUTILE::BISHOP | What the HELL are you talking about man! | Thu Dec 03 1992 12:24 | 7 |
| .89
Buy a better stereo? Extra Amp? Must be able to fit something like a
boom-tube behind the seats, maybe an 8".
Lewis.
|
1410.92 | Toilet trained. | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Never heard of him | Thu Jan 21 1993 15:52 | 11 |
| GT-
burst radiator after 20,000.
Hacking up the m6 from Basingstoke, pulled into the hotel after 3.5
hours and off she went all over the floor accompanied by a loud
screaming noise.
Poor girl should have gone before we left.
|
1410.93 | | VANGA::KERRELL | David Kerrell @REO (830) x2279 | Thu Jan 21 1993 16:00 | 5 |
| re.92:
The M6 now goes to Basingstoke?
Dave ;-)
|
1410.94 | Like Croydon, but without the glamour.... | PEKING::SMITHRW | Err..... | Thu Jan 21 1993 16:24 | 5 |
| No, from, even the M6 doesn't want to go TO basingstoke.
Richard
|
1410.95 | | CURRNT::CARSON | | Thu Jan 21 1993 18:48 | 5 |
| Were you driving hard prior to your stop ?
I try and do the last mile or two slower (maybe about 50, keeping the
revs to about 1500) prior to a stop after a bit of high speed driveing
(ie 80-90mph). Lets the engine calm down and the turbo cool a bit.
|
1410.96 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | Iraqnaphobia | Thu Jan 21 1993 21:50 | 4 |
| Excuse my ignorance but I didn't think the MR2 GT had a turbo ? I
thought it was just a 2.0i 16v ?
-tony (wouldn't be the first time I was wrong)
|
1410.97 | Maybe it is there, but we don't know how to turn it on! | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Fri Jan 22 1993 11:07 | 0 |
1410.98 | The car with a bent front is a Supra! | ESBS01::HARRIS | One testimonial short ... | Fri Jan 22 1993 12:36 | 10 |
1410.99 | | CURRNT::CARSON | | Fri Jan 22 1993 18:58 | 2 |
| Sorry, i forgot to mention it was a Supra.
Yes, 90mph is about 2900rpm in top gear for me.
|
1410.100 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | | Fri Jan 22 1993 22:31 | 5 |
|
I know its childish but the evening shift on a Friday can be a real
drag so I'll do it anyway ...
100 replies !!!!!!
|
1410.101 | | CURRNT::CARSON | | Mon Jan 25 1993 14:32 | 2 |
| re .99
errr... corection, that should have said 80mph.
|
1410.102 | More trouble. | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Never heard of him | Tue Feb 02 1993 20:04 | 18 |
| This time - not on the M6 towards WARRINGTON -
from Basingstoke -
Kerbside front brake stuck permanently on. . NO i have not hit the
kerb at any time either :-). Apparently it is a problem that the Lexus
suffers from as well. And while Im on the subject I now have a 12"
scratch on the rear drivers quarter.
It has not been a happy time for me and my mr2.
One pleasant thing that I have to say though is what a wonderful garage
Wadham Kennings in Woking really is. It is a real pleasure going into
there and not only do they remember my full name but the registration
aswell. This is my first Toyota, if this type of service continues it
won't be my last.
|
1410.103 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | Call me anything but late. | Thu May 20 1993 06:28 | 12 |
|
Well, now I guess I should be looking at a replacement vehicle. One of
the cars I'm considering is an MR2 GT T bar.
I'm a big guy (6.2, broad) and I wondered if any other big guys in here
drove MR2's. Do you experience problems climbing in and out of the thing or
have you noticed any back/neck complaints ? I expect to do about 25-30k
miles a year made up mainly with lots of short runs (15 miles +/-) ie,
lots of climbing in and out. Maybe I'm worrying without reason but I
thought it would be worth asking.
-Tony
|
1410.104 | Quarts ... | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, NTCC, Birmingham UK | Thu May 20 1993 12:13 | 22 |
| Tony,
the T-Bar will be better, because it gives slightly more
headroom than the sun-roofed versions. Even so, 6'2" may be a little
tight - i am 5'10" and with the seat upright my head touches the top.
I usually have the seat tilted back, but then it depends on the relative
length of your arms and legs as to whether you can position the seat
in a comfortable position. All i can suggest is you find someone with
a T-Bar and see if you can fit inside! The seats have a width adjustment,
so hopefully they can be set to suit your broadness.
No back problems so far, and getting in an out surprisingly easy,
especially when compared with, say, a Lotus Esprit.
If you do lots of miles on motorways then you _may_ find the car a little
noisy, as the engine is only inches away, but that depends on what you
are used to. I don't mind, and if your 15 miles +/- are on "fun" roads
then you will really enjoy the car.
Cheers,
mb
|
1410.105 | He hasn't complained yet. | PEKING::ATKINSA | PRC Vauxman. | Thu May 20 1993 12:14 | 11 |
|
A friend of mine is 6.5,and v.large and he seems to fit in one.
It's amazing what the human body will endure just for an image!
Andy
|
1410.106 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | Call me anything but late. | Thu May 20 1993 17:02 | 3 |
| Thanks for the help guys, going to try and get a test drive soon.
-Tony
|
1410.107 | Now where do you put your legs ?? | CHEFS::STAALH | | Thu May 20 1993 17:11 | 6 |
| I test drove an MR2 GT last week at DECpark during the Toyota demo day.
I found it very cramped for my 6'3" frame; reminded me of the days that
I drove a Mini. My head was right up against the roof and the steering
wheel and pedals felt uncomfortably close; any long distance driving
would have resulted in cramp. Not a car for anyone over 6 foot (let alone
6'5"). Other than that the car handled well but was a bit noisy.
|
1410.108 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | Call me anything but late. | Thu May 20 1993 23:46 | 3 |
|
I've submitted a quote for one so fingers crossed. If I decide to go
for it what sort of delivery time can I expect ?
|
1410.109 | My money's in the post is it? | PEKING::ATKINSA | PRC Vauxman. | Fri May 21 1993 12:56 | 14 |
|
Burnt out XR2i
= MR2 GT.
I'll except a cheque for what seems a job well done.
Nudge,Wink.
Andy ;-)
|
1410.110 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | | Sun May 23 1993 18:52 | 12 |
|
Andy, sod off!!! ;^)
Well, after visiting Bracknell Toyota Octogan on Saturday my mind is made
up. Going for a GT T-bar with metalic Aqua-Marine paint (sort of metalic
dark green, looks gorgeous; not one of these light hairdressers colours!).
Just waiting for my quote to come through to see if I can afford the
Toyota CD player too.
Anybody have any ideas as to how much the CD player would sting me for ?
-Tony
|
1410.111 | Have the same car... | STAR::BOIKO | ALPHA/VAX Performance Group - ZKO3/4 | Mon May 24 1993 04:25 | 7 |
| re .110
Good luck with your new MR2 GT T-Bar. I have the same car (130 HP US
version) with the same aqua-marine colour here in New Hampshire... I'm
sure you'll like it.
-mike-
|
1410.112 | What's this about NOVA's?? ;-) | PEKING::ATKINSA | PRC Vauxman. | Mon May 24 1993 11:39 | 13 |
|
Tony,
Don't bother with CD.
Get a Wheel clamp,Alarm,Rotweiler.
Andy..
|
1410.113 | | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Gary Withall is RAVISHING | Tue May 25 1993 17:11 | 10 |
|
Bit late for feedback, but Im 6-1 and find my MR 2 Gt no problem at
all. A mate of mine is a Body Builder. 5-9 and 15st - he finds his
really comfortable and he has had speakers built in behind the seats
whih cuts down the room.
I like mine. and its Aqua Marine also.
Gary
|
1410.114 | If only I could afford an MR-2 and the boss would let me have one | NEEPS::IRVINE | A 5150 - MINE NAH, NAH, NA-NAH, NAH 8*) | Tue May 25 1993 18:54 | 11 |
| How come I know *TWO* people who now have or are about to orderthis
dang hairdresser/stylist car!
Tone... it's beneath you (but you used to have a Charvel, so that might
explain it)
Gary... If you drive the above pram like you drove Kevin Banks Belmont
that night in Hemel Hempstead.... you deserve something, I just can't
place what!
Bob
|
1410.115 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | | Tue May 25 1993 21:11 | 2 |
|
Bonzo, get back to yer Audi ;^)
|
1410.116 | more TYRE developments | WARNUT::RICE | A Watch company with a Burgundy Logo | Wed May 26 1993 16:11 | 36 |
| On a different topic.
My tyres are nearly due for replacing again; when it was new it had
205/60 VR14 *BRIDGESTONES* on the back wheels but when I replaced them
last time the ATS garage told me that Hertz probably wouldn't allow
Bridgestones again because of the wear rate etc, so they fitted
Michelin MXV's (ATS is a Michelin subsidiary). This time I went to ATS
again to get more tyres, there is still 3mm left but the handling has
really "gone off" - not that I'm blaming my spin the other month on
that you understand, however Hertz wouldn't authorize new tyres until I
get down to 2mm (legal limit is 1.6mm). Conversation between me and
the Hertz "controller" then went something like this:-
Hertz: Sorry we can't authorize replacement until 2mm reached.
Me: But the handling is rubbish.
Hertz: What speed are you driving at when the handling is rubbish ?
Me: Er.... "Normal" speeds ! Anyway the ones on it have lasted a lot
longer that the original Bridgestones.
Hertz: What are they ?
Me: Michelin MXV's.
Hertz: You're NOT ALLOWED Michelins, we have had a technical bulletin
from Toyota, under NO circumstances are we allowed to fit anything
other than Bridgestones . In this case we'll let you change them straight
away.
So, there you have it - Original equipment tyres are not only allowed,
but in the case of Bridgestones on MR2's, are MANDATORY. So as far as
Hertz leased MR2's with Bridgestones are concerned all the arguments
I've seen in CARS_UK about permitted tyres are settled. Don't know how
this will affect anybody else, I mean the Hertz man told me to only
expect about 10,000 out of Bridgestones, so PHH people are knackered to
start with. I'm also unclear what happens to newer MR2's (15" wheels)
with Yokohama's ?
Steve. (happy to get rid of the MXV's)
|
1410.117 | slip slidin' away | COMICS::MCSKEANE | Jedi Knight Pinball Wizard | Wed May 26 1993 21:00 | 9 |
| < Note 1410.116 by WARNUT::RICE "A Watch company with a Burgundy Logo"
I spoke to Toyota about tyre replacements and they stated that the MR2
should only be fitted with Bridgestones. This was passed onto Hertz.
Another colleague spoke to Toyota and they suggested that the tyres are
only good for about 9000-10000 miles. Toyota have been in touch with
Hertz over this, so Hertz should be aware of this.
POL (who averages 10500 miles per set of rear tyres)
|
1410.118 | You have my gratitude | WARNUT::RICE | A Watch company with a Burgundy Logo | Thu May 27 1993 14:39 | 13 |
| I think that's what I was saying :-) Of course, if you are THE person
responsibe for causing Toyota to make Hertz aware then I am in your
debt. Whatabout the poor sods with PHH cars though ?
The "problem" was caused last time by ATS trying to flog tyres made by
their parent company, Michelin. They didn't even check what should be
fitted (apparently) they just told me straight out that Bridgestones
wouldn't be allowed, of course at that time I didn't realise how
susceptible MR2's were to tyre design, in fact I think Toyota are only
now just getting it right as current MR2's run 15" rims with
Yokohama's.
Stevie.
|
1410.119 | | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Never heard of him | Sat May 29 1993 19:28 | 10 |
|
Bob,
Im much improved now .
Anyway I thought my handling was exceptional; given the conditions.
Gary
|
1410.120 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | Exotic, Erotic and Psychotic | Mon May 31 1993 23:11 | 5 |
|
Its done. My order is in for a GT T bar. No extras other than Metallic
paint (Aqua-Marine) and a VSL alarm.
-Tony
|
1410.121 | Confused...you will be...??!! | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Tue Jun 01 1993 16:01 | 13 |
|
Hi Tony,
Just read about your quote submission, don't be surprised if you get a
mail back from fleet that the car is already on the preferred list ,ie,
the MR2 quoted on the list is actually a GT-T-BAR!
I have thus submitted a quote (which I should receive this week) including
the option of a single play CD system (not the multi - its tight for space
in the boot as it is!!). I will enter the quote as soon as I get notification.
Regards,
Stewart Piesley @HHL
|
1410.122 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | Exotic, Erotic and Psychotic | Tue Jun 01 1993 16:55 | 6 |
|
Hi Stewart,
Already sussed that one mate, I've ordered it from the basket list 8^)
-Tony
|
1410.123 | | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Tue Jun 01 1993 18:36 | 12 |
|
Hi Tony,
I was going to do the same thing, but a colleague put a quote in for the
Nissan 200SX (Which is on the preferred list '47' price 1824 pounds) with
options of - Multi Cd player,metallic paint and electric sunroof. The quote
he got was 1840 pounds!!!!. Therefore I thought I would try a quote with
an option first - I will keep you posted.
regards,
Stewart.
|
1410.124 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | Exotic, Erotic and Psychotic | Tue Jun 01 1993 21:19 | 1 |
| Arrgghhh.. I hope for my sake that you're wrong this time 8^)
|
1410.125 | | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Tue Jun 08 1993 17:14 | 15 |
1410.126 | | WIZZER::FISCHER | I can always sleep standing up | Tue Jun 08 1993 17:49 | 5 |
| A lot of dosh for a car that's gettiong as common as
Cavaliers in Digital car parks!!!!
Ian
|
1410.127 | | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Tue Jun 08 1993 21:00 | 7 |
|
..so you are saying a driver cost of 2100 pounds on the preferred
list for a CAVALIER 2000 GSi 4DR is cheap??
At least the MR2 has a unique shape, I can't tell the difference
between the 1.8L and the GSI cavalier!
Stew.
|
1410.128 | | WIZZER::FISCHER | I can always sleep standing up | Tue Jun 08 1993 21:27 | 5 |
| No, I was just making a comment about the number of MR2
drivers at Digital - or is it DEC?
Ian
|
1410.129 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | | Tue Jun 08 1993 21:37 | 5 |
|
There are many many Porches on the road, but it doesn't stop people
wanting to buy them.
-Tony
|
1410.130 | | WIZZER::FISCHER | I can always sleep standing up | Wed Jun 09 1993 13:02 | 8 |
| Re 1410.126
:-)
Ian
|
1410.131 | | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Never heard of him | Wed Jun 09 1993 15:08 | 10 |
|
Ian,
at least I was the first to get the Aqua Marine colour.
Oh yes - nice Calibra. ;-)
Gary
|
1410.132 | | WAYOUT::WAYOUT::LOAT | Ahead groove factor 5! Yeah! | Wed Jun 09 1993 16:22 | 4 |
|
but what are all these MR2 drivers going to do in April next year when they find
out how much the tax man is going to clobber them? 8-[
|
1410.133 | RE .127 | NEWOA::CROME_A | | Wed Jun 09 1993 18:13 | 8 |
| GSi2000 - 2100 quid
typical car fleet, they haven't made them for some time now ..........
as for not being able to tell the difference between a 1.8L and a GSi,
I'd visit your optician SOON.
AC
|
1410.135 | Nowt like saying what you mean is there ? | SAC::WARBURTON | | Wed Jun 09 1993 21:09 | 5 |
|
Charming !
Julie.
|
1410.136 | If you want an extension, ring the PTT! | NSDC::KENNEDY_C | Going places .... | Wed Jun 09 1993 21:12 | 4 |
|
Sick?
BTW I have mailed him off-line
|
1410.137 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | | Thu Jun 10 1993 11:16 | 10 |
|
Bwahahahahaha!!
Of course thats the difference between people with MR2's and people
without (me included in the "with" 'coz I'm waiting for my errr...."Muff
magnet" as he puts it).
People *with* MR2's *can* afford them ;^)
-Tony (talking out of my botty?)
|
1410.138 | whats your point | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Never heard of him | Thu Jun 10 1993 14:26 | 12 |
| <<< Note 1410.136 by NSDC::KENNEDY_C "Going places ...." >>>
BTW I have mailed him off-line ??
So,
you never actually said anything other than you do OK in your
old Bedford ?. What was the point of mailing me offline ?
Gary
|
1410.139 | mod = spoil sport | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Thu Jun 10 1993 16:25 | 5 |
| I've set .134 hidden and mailed Gary about.
Some folks may find it offensive.
Royston
|
1410.140 | Warning- Type A personality | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Never heard of him | Thu Jun 10 1993 16:44 | 8 |
|
Note .134 deleted, due to some who found it distasteful, and others who
have had sense of humour bypass ops. :-)
Regs.
Gary
|
1410.141 | | SAC::WARBURTON | | Thu Jun 10 1993 17:18 | 5 |
|
Fortunately, we don't all have the same sense of distasteful humour !
Julie.
|
1410.142 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | | Thu Jun 10 1993 17:24 | 3 |
| I thought it was funny so I guess that makes me a freak too.
-Tony
|
1410.143 | | WIZZER::FISCHER | I can always sleep standing up | Thu Jun 10 1993 17:28 | 7 |
| Well Gazza,
I found the note extremely offensive and totally misleading. I drove an MR2
last night and had a very uneventful journey home.
Ian
|
1410.144 | Kettle calling the pot black? | WOTVAX::GILLILANDP | Not very Tuna-friendly | Thu Jun 10 1993 17:31 | 4 |
| I found it hilarious Gary, and there was you worrying that >>I<< upset
people!!
Phil Gill.
|
1410.145 | My tuppence-worth... | WIZZER::MACLEAN | A Pure Dear in a Wicked World | Thu Jun 10 1993 19:49 | 20 |
|
To say 1410.134 was distasteful and shocking is an
understatement.
Gary you should be ashamed of yourself.
I Mean : "...not only do we have smart cars we also
have a lot of wimmin"
=======
What if my Male 6ft 5" other half finds out about my
sordid secret life !!??? :-)
Sandie (aka Alexandra, most definitely female !) ..../
PS:Out of interest, does the term 'Willie Magnet'
exist as a concept then ? ;-)
|
1410.146 | | WIZZER::FISCHER | I can always sleep standing up | Thu Jun 10 1993 20:50 | 6 |
| Mod,
please delete the last reply. I find the quoted statement in the last
sentence very offensive.
Ian
|
1410.147 | | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Thu Jun 10 1993 21:35 | 5 |
|
....I think its a complete Phallacy...
Stew.
|
1410.148 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Thu Jun 10 1993 21:52 | 5 |
|
I missed it, can someone tell me the joke please?
Heather
|
1410.150 | new readers start here... | MENOW::PACEN | Here comes the twist | Fri Jun 11 1993 01:29 | 14 |
1410.151 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | Hair today, gone tomorrow | Fri Jun 11 1993 11:34 | 1 |
| 8^)
|
1410.152 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | No, not a cold, a peg | Fri Jun 11 1993 13:21 | 3 |
| So are we saying that MR2 drivers are complete dicks, then?
Laurie.
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1410.153 | trouble commin' my way | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Never heard of him | Fri Jun 11 1993 13:40 | 11 |
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Thats another way to put it I'spose Laurie.
Re- Sandie - yes - it would probably attract mine - but then thats no
recommendation !!!!.
Ian Fischer - say no more - say no more ;-)
Gary
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1410.154 | A question pertaining to the content of blah blah | WOTVAX::GILLILANDP | Not very Tuna-friendly | Fri Jun 11 1993 15:06 | 3 |
| re .150 Are you any relation to Viz's Mr Logic?
Phil Gill.
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1410.155 | | MENOW::PACEN | Here comes the twist | Fri Jun 11 1993 21:20 | 5 |
| >> re .150 Are you any relation to Viz's Mr Logic?
We do have something in common.
~sam
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1410.156 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | | Thu Jun 17 1993 01:57 | 6 |
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Got my delivery date through; 5th July 1993.
T minus 19 days encounting (slobber slobber, drool drool).
-Tony
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1410.157 | Just in Time | SUBURB::BOXALLG | Graham Boxall@REO | Thu Jun 17 1993 22:54 | 16 |
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I ordered mine on Monday, just before the recent car scheme
annoucements and am eagerly awaiting a 'order confirmation' memo from
car fleet!!!
I took the GT T-bar straight from the preferred list, as I heard the
various rumors flying around and decided I had better order it asap.
Graham
P.S. Anyone want to buy a Renault 5GT Turbo?
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1410.158 | Phew!!! | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Tue Jun 22 1993 20:21 | 8 |
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Same here , just got my confirmation message for my 'yummy yummy'
MR2 T-BAR with single play CD - which is quite a few squidleys less than
the preferred list price!!
Stewart.
P.S - Graham how may clutch cables and turbo fans have you replaced??!!
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1410.159 | and theres more... | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Wed Jun 23 1993 13:51 | 8 |
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Just got my delivery date. its the 1ST September - YUK! At least there
will hopefully be a bit of the summer left.
BTW its says in the mail that this an anticipated delivery date, and
it might be sooner? is this true is there a chance or am I just being
hopeful??
Stewart.
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1410.160 | Ignore the mail... | KERNEL::BAYLISD | Filth Daemon from Hell | Wed Jun 23 1993 16:43 | 9 |
| re -.1
Generally speaking you can ignore the mail. The garage will contact you
when they want to deliver, so it could be alot sooner/later. I had the
garage contact me before I got the mail message which turned up a
couple of days later.
Dave.
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1410.161 | Only one Clutch Cable | SUBURB::BOXALLG | Graham Boxall@REO | Wed Jun 23 1993 21:42 | 11 |
|
re .158
I have only been through one clutch cable, Wheelers of Newbury have now
fitted an uprated one (if there is such a thing??), which seems to have
lasted. I've had no trouble with the rest of the engine, turbo included
and mine has been uprated.
Graham
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1410.162 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | | Thu Jun 24 1993 12:33 | 4 |
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1st September ? Ouch! Could have been worse though...
...could have been *my* car that was delivered that late 8^)
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1410.163 | | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Thu Jun 24 1993 19:23 | 6 |
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...it will take two months to transfer your CD collection to tape!!...
Happy tapeing,
Stewart.
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1410.164 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | | Thu Jun 24 1993 22:18 | 11 |
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re: CD collection to tape
Why ? I ordered a cd player in mine.
Just found out my delivery date is incorrect and it's not the 5th of
July 8^(
Its the 30th June. Next Wednesday. Ahem.......
-Tony
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1410.165 | A wot... | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Fri Jun 25 1993 13:31 | 5 |
|
Am i mistaken but you ordered off the preferred list - Re: 1410.122??
Therefore how come you have a CD option with it??
-Stewart
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1410.166 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | They make redundancies don't they? | Fri Jun 25 1993 15:23 | 4 |
|
Nope, I changed my order. See note 1538.689.
5 days to go.
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1410.167 | ... | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Fri Jun 25 1993 16:33 | 7 |
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OK OK...I'm just turning a kind of lettuce green with envy!!
Givus a verdict when u get it, especially concerning the CD player.
BTW - How does the VSL alarm differ from the standard one??
~Stew~
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1410.168 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | They make redundancies don't they? | Fri Jun 25 1993 16:51 | 6 |
|
Its a remote control movement sensor jobbie.
I think there's a topic in here about VSL alarms. Any pointers anyone ?
-Tony
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1410.169 | Just a suggestion! | PEKING::ATKINSA | PRC Vauxman. | Fri Jun 25 1993 19:48 | 9 |
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Yeah!
Turn it on and you might keep your Toyota longer than the Fiesta!
Andy ;-)
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1410.170 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | They make redundancies don't they? | Fri Jun 25 1993 19:57 | 1 |
| 8^P
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1410.171 | wot??? | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Fri Jun 25 1993 20:19 | 4 |
|
Have I missed something here ~ in joke? or has my I.Q regressed?
~stew~
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1410.172 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | They make redundancies don't they? | Fri Jun 25 1993 20:30 | 1 |
| I think we're ratholing the MR2 note.
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1410.173 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | They make redundancies don't they? | Tue Jun 29 1993 20:12 | 8 |
| Well, took delivery of my MR2 GT T-bar today.
Slurp drool drool.
Got it this morning, done 200 miles already, this is a NICE car!
-Tony
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1410.174 | | FORSAN::FRENCHS | Semper in excernere | Tue Jun 29 1993 20:21 | 6 |
| Tony,
200 miles on the clock when you received it. I would complain...
Simon (do I really need to put a smiley here?)
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1410.176 | | WIZZER::FISCHER | I can always sleep standing up | Tue Jun 29 1993 20:53 | 5 |
| have you pulled any wimmin in it yet? I'd have thought
with 200 miles on the clock, that'd be about 5.
Ian
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1410.177 | | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Tue Jun 29 1993 20:59 | 5 |
| re .176
Not this notes thread again!
;^)
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1410.178 | | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Middle Path towards enlightenment | Wed Jun 30 1993 00:05 | 10 |
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And I never even prompted him.
Ian your sick.
Gary
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1410.179 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | They make redundancies don't they? | Mon Jul 05 1993 06:27 | 32 |
|
Well, had mine for 5 days now and clocked up about 900 miles in it.
Performance : Very quick once the revs hit about 3.75k rpm but
until then there is a noticable drag. Might be because
the thing is still a wee baby & still needs some time to
loosen up a little. My old car was geared differently and
the power seemed to be a little more evenly distributed
through the rev range, but the MR2's seems to be saved
for the end climax of 4k+. Top speed ? Haven't got a
clue...I haven't exceeded 90mph as I'm still getting used
to the handling characteristics.
Handling : Amazing. Having previously driven a standard 1.6i front
engined, front wheel drive this was a REAL difference. At
first it just didn't feel 'right' going into the corners,
it felt sloppy and unsafe but *I* eventually loosened up
(as opposed to the car) and started to trust it a little
more and the thing hasn't let me down yet (and I've taken
some bends at bloody silly speeds). Still getting used to
it though. Obviously with the weight distribution (55% at
rear, 45% at front) you have to think about a corner
first; you can't just throw the thing into it and expect it
to come out smelling of roses but with a little thought and
taking the right line the results are great fun.
Comfort : Exellent seat support, all facilities are practicle and
well within arms reach.
Stereo : Wicked 8^) Even with the T top off.
-Tony
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1410.180 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | The match has gone out | Mon Jul 05 1993 12:33 | 3 |
| Is this where we start the argument about "running-in"?
Laurie.
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1410.181 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | They make redundancies don't they? | Mon Jul 05 1993 23:09 | 1 |
| Got fer it.
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1410.182 | | SUBURB::BOXALLG | Graham Boxall@REO | Tue Jul 06 1993 16:28 | 7 |
|
Just had a delivery date of the 9th August for mine, hopefully this means
I should get the new L reg.
Graham
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1410.183 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | I don't know what to believe | Sat Jul 10 1993 10:57 | 2 |
|
Well, 1400 miles later and its getting smoother, much smoother.
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1410.184 | | WIZZER::FISCHER | I can always sleep standing up | Sun Jul 11 1993 19:53 | 10 |
| re .-1 (Yawn!)
Any ideas when the MR 2 will get a facelift, or be replaced?
It's getting on for 4 years old now. Most japanese cars are
replaced or facelifted every 4 years.
Ian
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1410.185 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | I don't know what to believe | Sun Jul 11 1993 21:27 | 5 |
|
The current MR2 is the new MR2. The 'improvements' are the wheels,
colours, steering, pas etc...
-Tony
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1410.186 | Bye bye MR2 ? | CEEOSI::WILTSHIRE | Dave - Networks Conformance Eng. | Mon Jul 12 1993 17:11 | 5 |
| I heard a rumour that Toyota were going to cease production of the
MR2 within the next couple of years.
-Dave.
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1410.187 | All those rollers and tongs(not thongs) | PEKING::ATKINSA | PRC Vauxman. | Wed Jul 14 1993 14:33 | 9 |
| RE:-2
Tony,
How do you manage to fit any girls/women in your MR2 if you have
to take your hairdressing gear around with you? ;-)
Andy.Haircut! Haircut!
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1410.188 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | I don't know what to believe | Fri Jul 16 1993 15:32 | 1 |
| Its easy, they just form a queue outside ;^)
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1410.189 | ....new date.... | ARRODS::SYSTEM | | Fri Jul 23 1993 17:46 | 7 |
|
Hi peeps,
Have a new date of 4th Aug!!!, will this mean I will have an 'L'
reg??
Stew @HHL
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1410.190 | L reg or L plate ? | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Fri Jul 23 1993 18:01 | 6 |
1410.191 | | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Wait Till They Getta Loada Me | Sat Jan 01 1994 14:14 | 12 |
|
My Mr2 span on frosty roads this morning. The road was straight and I
was doing an honest 30. I was actually in Jays close nr Viables and
span just outside ITT's.
I could feel it trying to go all down the road. Anybody else
experienced their Mr going awol. ?.
Gary
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1410.192 | MR2 in the winter..BE CAREFUL!! | NOVA::BOIKO | Mike Boiko, RdB Performance Group, 381-2362 | Mon Jan 03 1994 21:15 | 8 |
| Gary,
Yes, I have a 91 MR2 over here in the States.....and you have to be
VERY careful when driving in the winter! It's very easy to wrap the
car around a tree..as did Car and Driver magazine during their
winter driving of the car...
-mike-
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1410.193 | Twice now...... | WARNUT::RICE | If only my MR2 had more room... | Tue Jan 04 1994 13:47 | 25 |
| Hee hee hee....
Join the club :-)
Last year -
Mine spun at 45 after a roundabout - I always put it down to the
non-oem tyres (they were Michelin MXV instead of Bridgestones).
It definitely couldn't be driver error, no not me, never been known :-)
I just remembered - I spun it 3 weeks ago in a blizzard as well, this
time it was due to not realising how quick the Bridgestones wear out.
40 mph - gentle bend and downhill slope, last in a line of
*front-wheel-drive* cars noticed a BIG red sign which said REDUCE SPEED
NOW, ooh-err, changed down from 4th to 3rd, gently let up the clutch,
complete loss of control, 180 degree spin, backwards down the road.
Ended up across the road before a blind bend, stalled and wearing my
best pair of brown trousers. Fortunately the oncoming traffic was
only light and must have been going slow as I got it started and drove
2 miles back in the direction I came from before I was able to find a
junction to turn around.
Where was this - the Derbyshire Peak District, not far from Blue-John
mines on the road that goes from Chesterfield and joins the A6 near
Buxton.
Stevie.
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1410.194 | Caliper problems | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Wait Till They Getta Loada Me | Mon Mar 28 1994 16:07 | 8 |
|
MR2 is off the road with front break caliper problems. 2nd time around
for this fault. Toyota cannot supply parts and can't confirm part eta.
Fault is found on J reg only (apparently)
For two weeks Iv'e been in a Mondeo and I feel seasick all the time.
Gary
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1410.195 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Bugs B Gone | Mon Mar 28 1994 16:49 | 6 |
| I seems unfair that you have to continue paying the extra on the lease
cost of your Mr 2 (not to mention being taxed on it) when it is off the
road for a long period when they will only replace it with a standard
hire car.
Royston
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1410.196 | | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Wait Till They Getta Loada Me | Mon Mar 28 1994 17:33 | 14 |
|
Royston,
that was my comment to the nice man at Hertz. This was a Digital
requirement from Hertz...
I did ask them to swap the loan and now Im getting a Calibra this PM.
Better than the Mondeo, even if I do have to lie down in it...
Gary
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1410.197 | | COMICS::FISCHER | Life's a big banana sandwich | Tue Mar 29 1994 19:45 | 10 |
| > Better than the Mondeo, even if I do have to lie down in it...
Gazza,
If this is what you get up to in the back of Calibras it's
a good job you didn't borrow mine after all.
Ian
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1410.198 | H reg with Caliper prob too. | PCPLOD::WARBURTON | | Fri Apr 08 1994 21:19 | 7 |
|
I had an H reg MR2 which consumed 2 sets of front calipers, not to
mention the warped rear disks. Obviously you have a similar driving
style ;-)
Mike
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1410.199 | | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Wait Till They Getta Loada Me | Mon Apr 18 1994 14:30 | 10 |
|
Mike,
its a design fault.
I blame my father and his history of drug abuse !.
Gary
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1410.200 | | BLKPUD::WARNESG | This space deliberately left blank | Fri Apr 29 1994 19:33 | 10 |
|
Had the caliper replaced on my K reg '92 MR2 last month so the problem
is probably not just confined to the J reg models.
Anyone noticed how the wheels crumble before your eyes at the slightest
whiff of road salt ?
Graham Warnes
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