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Title:Cars in the UK
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Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
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1302.0. "Build it yourself... NO KITS!" by NEEPS::IRVINE () Fri Nov 23 1990 17:50

Just had a long think about building a car....

Not a kit car, but taking a car and not customising as such just improving 
it.....


Base:	Avenger circa 1974 (Tiger preferably)
Engine: Lotus Sunbeam
Susp:	Bilstein... (preferably rally type)
Brakes: Lotus sunbeam
Gears:	Ford Rocket box
Instru:	Tiger
Wheels:	Alley Cats (Black ofcourse)
Tyres:	195vr 70's (all round and hammer to beat out body work)


Just a thought....

Bob
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1302.1For road use only ?CHEST::RUTTERRutter the NutterTue Nov 27 1990 11:4322
    Sounds like pretty normal procedure for creating a rally car.
    
    Get original car (preferably one which manufacturer has competed with)
    
    Fit safety-related components (cage, seats, harnesses, etc)
    
    Uprate suspension and running gear
    
    Insert higher-spec engine (closer to that used by Factory Rally teams)
    
    Go out and use the thing...
    
    
    As far as your list goes, only competition safety items are missing.
    
    If you are going to hack the car about that much, my only question
    would be as to the point in buying a 'Tiger' in the first place, as
    you will probably remove most Tiger parts in this conversion.
    Don't they cost more due to rarity/'collectors car' status ?
    
    J.R. (who has seen the results of an Avenger estate with
          Sunbeam Lotus engine and running gear - rapid transport)
1302.2NEEPS::IRVINETue Nov 27 1990 15:1318
    Good Point... but I do not think I have a good enough sense of balance
    to Rally... 8*(
    
    I would have thought that I would have to re-inforce all of the
    mounting points on the chassis... whereas the Tiger would have had
    these already!
    
    (it's not lazyness... it's very poor welding abilities)
    
    One saftey feature I did think about was putting in a cage.
    
    This set up in particular I have seen as a street car... it was
    amazing!
    
    The only problems I can see, would be getting a decent body shell
    (circa 1973, 74) as I really disliked the newer ones.
    
    Bob
1302.3Bad buy?OVAL::SAXBYMTue Nov 27 1990 15:1810
    
    If you really want a car like that described in .0 buy a copy of
    Motoring News.
    
    The classifieds are full of bastardised rally cars for next to nothing.
    
    Basically no-one wants these cars because they are such an insurance
    and (perceived at least) safety headache.
    
    Mark
1302.4A roll-cage also increases insurance 'risk'CHEST::RUTTERRutter the NutterTue Nov 27 1990 15:4918
1302.5NEEPS::IRVINETue Nov 27 1990 16:1012
    I think I will do just that... although I feel that half the fun
    is building it yourself as far as possible.
    
    The strange thing about insurance in this instance would be (to
    me at least), that the safety of the car has actually been improved,
    therefor they must think that because the car goes faster it must
    be a high risk, this may  be true though with the modifications
    I have suggested, the car would be far better!  Even forgetting
    the Lotus engine, and using the sunbeam ti engine, would mean
    that there is better performance without any *real* insurance issue!
    
    Bob