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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1285.0. " Engine tuning recommendations" by FORTY2::NAYLER (It's me Honest) Tue Nov 06 1990 19:25



I've had a look through the conference and cannot find the info I want.

Can anyone recomend a good place to get my car tunned in Reading, or point me 
to the notes that discuss this topic.


			Mike.
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1285.1Tunning ? - Surely you want the Home_Brew conferenceWTHRDS::TOWERSAh, but I was so much older then; I'm younger than that nowTue Nov 06 1990 19:292
    Why on earth do you want to put your car into a 216 gallon cask (for
    ale) or a 252 gallon cask (for wine)?
1285.2FORTY2::NAYLERIt's me HonestTue Nov 06 1990 19:357


Hahahhahahahaha


	Ok, its late kill the extra 'n'... Tuning..........
1285.3Fuel Injected Engine TuningSUBURB::SCREENERRobert Screene, UK Finance EUCWed Nov 07 1990 17:0519
    Can I add,
    I am interested in tuning for a fuel injected engine. Specifically the
    VW mechanical continuous injection system in the Golf up until D reg.
    
    I know a little of the generic things:
    	- Fast and slow idle speeds
    	- CO % content of exhaust
    	- Timing of ignition
    
    What things sould be tested and set on such an engine??????
    	- Fuel line pressure?????
    	- Injector spray shape (should be conical)?????????
    
    Does anyone know the sort of things one should ask for, and anyone in
    the Reading/Berkshire area capable of performing them?  What sort of
    cost should I expect?
    
    Cheers,
    Rob.
1285.4HOTSPR::KENNEDYChaos is a Science.Tue Nov 13 1990 20:2946
RE:
< Note 1285.3 by SUBURB::SCREENER "Robert Screene, UK Finance EUC" >
                        -< Fuel Injected Engine Tuning >-

- Fast and slow idle speeds - normal idle set by throttle valve bypass
			      adjuster, usually a large plastic adjuster on
                              the plemun chamber, fast idle is provided by a
                              thermal valve which either works or doesn't
                              work(no adjustment).

- CO % content of exhaust   - requires CO2 analyser, set by adjusting metering 
			      unit volume sensor plate/metering valve 
			      relationship via hex keyed adjuster.

- Timing of ignition        - I thought that the Golf GTi had electronic
			      ignition - in which case the timing is fixed
			      as long as the crankshaft angular sensor is not
			      disturbed, and is non-adjustable.
    
What things sould be tested and set on such an engine??????
- Fuel line pressure?????   - the pump that provides this pressure, again,
			      either provides the correct pressure or provides
                              none. They are extremely reliable - if never run
			      dry (try not to run out of fuel)

- Injector spray shape (should be conical)?????????
			    - if the 'spray' shape is bad it is usually
			      detected by the inability to get a good CO2
			      reading and a reliable tickover at the same time.
			      It is usually checked by pointing the injector
			      into a jam jar, or similar, and cranking the
			      engine with the ignition off. The spray pattern
			      can then be visually observed.

Does anyone know the sort of things one should ask for, and anyone in
the Reading/Berkshire area capable of performing them?  What sort of
cost should I expect?
    
			    - Why not just take the car to a local VW dealer
			      and ask for the appropriate sevice where all this
			      sort of thing 'should' be done?
			      I would advise you not to touch the fuel or 
		              ignition systems on these (modenish) cars unless
			      you know *exactly* what you are doing.

- John.
1285.5And for a real enginePUGH::FRENCHSSemper in excernereWed Nov 14 1990 14:464
How about sugestions for the ROVER (GM/Buick) 3.5 Lt V8.


Simon
1285.6HOTSPR::KENNEDYChaos is a Science.Wed Nov 14 1990 16:503
>>>How about sugestions for the ROVER (GM/Buick) 3.5 Lt V8.

I am too polite to comment ;-)
1285.8Ouch!PUGH::FRENCHSSemper in excernereThu Nov 15 1990 12:117
Put your foot down, four wheel wheel spin, wheels and chassis leave body behind

Would the transmission take it though. It is bad enough driving at 75. The Landy
gets a bit 'light' and wobbley at 'high' speed.


Simon
1285.9V8 WheezeHOTSPR::KENNEDYChaos is a Science.Fri Nov 16 1990 17:364
My friends Range Rover (carb model) gives an impressive 12mpg if given any sort
of stick at all - that's what I find impressive ;-)

- John.
1285.10Wish mine did that muchFORTY2::QUICKPretentious? Moi?Fri Nov 16 1990 18:022
	He's got it tuned for economy, then?
1285.11HOTSPR::KENNEDYChaos is a Science.Fri Nov 16 1990 18:3411
Re: .-1
>>>	He's got it tuned for economy, then?

Strangely enough - yes he has. He has spent a small fortune on the thing
(I think it is a 1986/7 model) and I think the engine is in a better condition
than one 'straight from the factory'. It had a worn cam when he got it (cheap)
and he has put a new one in, reground all the valves, gas flowed the heads, got
the SU's set up on an engine analyser etc...etc...etc... Result:: 12mpg instead
of 11mpg !!!


1285.12Puzzled of DECParkIOSG::MARSHALLWaterloo SunsetFri Nov 16 1990 19:137
What do you actually *do* to gas-flow a head?
Is it worth doing it on manifolds too?

On modern engines with up-to-date casting techniques, is it worth the effort
to gas-flow a head as the improvement will be marginal?

Scott
1285.13Gas-flowing - grind away port/manifold obstructionsCHEST::RUTTERRutter the NutterMon Nov 19 1990 13:2926