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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1235.0. "Tools needed via DEC Park" by HOO78C::DUINHOVEN (Dutch treat) Mon Sep 24 1990 19:36

    Hi,
    
    As I'm now approaching the more tricky jobs with "Beasty" MGB GT,
    I need to get me some tool sets.
    
    One of my fellow mates is so lucky to visit DEC Park next week,
    so he'll be the ideal transport vehicle.
    
    1 What standard tool sets are recommended for the car.
      (Spanners - open end spanners - socket/ratchet)
    2 Who would like to help to have this localy purchased, 
      so my fellowmate can pick it up or advise him where to go?
    
    My next jobs will be: Brake system refurbishment and front struds
    bushes renwal.
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Hans
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1235.1Glad to help, but....IOSG::MARSHALLWhy can't a woman be more like a car?Tue Sep 25 1990 14:1930
1235.2Less is more.CRATE::SAXBYTime to say something contentious!Tue Sep 25 1990 14:249
    
    I'd dispute the suggestion that you should buy as big a socket set
    as you can afford. 99% of the time you'll get by with just 2 or 3
    sockets, so you're probably better off buying a small high-quality
    set and a few VERY high quality sockets.
    
    Also, what about a nut-splitter? Very useful and only about 3-4 pounds.
    
    Mark
1235.3ErrataIOSG::MARSHALLWhy can't a woman be more like a car?Tue Sep 25 1990 14:2616
Err, sorry, just realised I'm out of the office next week (1 - 5 October)

The shops I had in mind were:

Drews, just past the fire station
Qual, opposite Reading library
Les Smith, near cemetery junction and also near Broad St Mall
Halfords, halfway along Friar Street
Halfords superstore: two miles West along Oxford Road
Great Mills, next to Halfords Superstore
B&Q, in between DEC Park and Reading town centre

If you want lots of tools of dubious quality very cheaply:
Argos, on the edge of Broad St Mall

Scott
1235.4# If you go down to the shops today... #ESDV00::MUDANSpeak clearly after the Beep...Tue Sep 25 1990 14:3720
    
    Regarding "Tools from Holland", I would strongly advise a visit to 
    your local "Kijk Shop" ["See and Buy Shop" -- Similar to an Argos 
    Store in the UK].
    
    The price is really quite cheap on all tools *and* the item that I
    thought was unique ( i.e. I've not come across these in the  UK -- 
    although I'm sure someone will prove me wrong on this ;-) is a set 
    of about ten *RACHET RING SPANNERS* for less than a tenner ! [fl.30]
    
    As each spanner effectively gives you two different sizes ( i.e. the
    "ring ends" are different ) you've a total of twenty different sizes
    with the added luxury that they're racheted !
    
    A *must* for any ( MG ) enthusiast ;-) !
    
    Cheers,
    
    	Jagdeep.
    
1235.5Edge drivers.CRATE::SAXBYTime to say something contentious!Tue Sep 25 1990 14:3810
    
    As you're working on brakes, try and get a couple of those edge
    driving sockets (or a whole set if you can afford 'em!). They really
    do work - I managed to loosen and tighten a number of times and near 
    circular bleed valve using one of these wonderful little widgets!
    
    Personally, if I were about to buy a new socket set I'd spend the
    extra and get a set of these.
    
    Mark
1235.6METRINCH works!GIDDAY::HOOPERCustomer Service (Hardware), SydneyTue Sep 25 1990 14:548
    I'd recommend that you buy tools (both socket set, and open end/ring
    spanners), of the brand "METRINCH". These are of a special design that
    grips the flat part of the nut, and they work very well on nuts that
    have been rounded off by conventional 12 point sockets, or the
    unsympathetic use of adjustable spanners, (or molegrips!). However, I
    do think they are quite expensive. But, each socket fits several sizes
    of nuts, both imperial and metric.
    Regards, Ray.
1235.7MetrinchIOSG::MARSHALLWhy can't a woman be more like a car?Tue Sep 25 1990 16:197
Yes Metrinch are about twice the price of conventional spanners, but as each
metrinch spanner does the job of between two and four conventional ones,
it works out cheaper overall...

I haven't seen them in larger sizes though, (> 14mm) which is a bit of a shame.

Scott
1235.8Don't forget a large hammer!IOSG::MITCHELLElaineTue Sep 25 1990 16:5218
    
    Also try and decide which spanners/sockets you need two of! You'll
    always find situations where you're going to need two spanners of the
    same size when there just isn't enough room to use a socket on one end
    and a spanner on the other. With the vehicles I've had in the past 
    I've found that the length of the spanner can be vital too, so I've got 
    several 1/2", 7/16" and 9/16" spanners, all with different angles and
    lengths!
    
    We've got a couple of good quality basic sets of sockets including deep
    sockets, (metric and AF) + two full sets of spanners (again
    metric and AF) a set of whitworth spanners, and quite a selction of
    odds and ends which have been bought for a particular job, (or 'borrowed'
    from my Dad) over about 10 years or more of messing about in engines!
    
    You'll only find what you should have bought at 2am on a Sunday
    morning! (optimistic aren't I? :-))
    
1235.9It's one helpfull worldHOO78C::DUINHOVENDutch treatTue Sep 25 1990 19:0029
    Thank you all for the replies!!!
    
    Scott: (.1)
    Buying tools in Holland is o.k. except the non-metric tools.
    (By the way, there is no "Kijk-Shop" near the place I live. It's a 
     typical main town shop)
    Most adventures I was able to perform with my metric tools and/or
    adjustable wrenches. Now that the heavy work is coming and I don't want
    to make things worse than they are, I think it's wise to start with
    at least some proper spanners and sockets.
    I'll mark the list(s) and ask Peter Spoelstra,
    (he_who's_going_to_visit_DECpark) to take them with him.
    
    Yes I have the Haynes manual and the Guide to purchase and D.I.Y. by
    Lindsay Porter. Sometimes you need both to get a job done.
    
    Peter will visit DECpark on oct 9 & 10 as well, so maybe you can meet
    then.......   I'll keep you posted
    
    BTW I just received from an anomynous person at NL HQ a sticker
    reading: "National MGB Champion SCCA 1977"
    
    What's SCCA?
    
    Elaine: Thanks for the hopefull last fraze, it just gives the
    inspiration to go on, even when it is one of these days....
    
    
    Hans
1235.10Need Whitworth in the USCSSE::WAITETue Sep 25 1990 21:1913
Speaking of Whitworth.....do the firms listed carry high quality sockets
in Whitworth sizes? Particularly 3/8" drive?

In the US it's almost impossible to find Whitworh anything (except nuts/bolts).
I have a collection of various tools acquired over the years but nothing
that resembles a complete set of sockets. The only ones I have been able to
find recently were made in some oriental country and not very well at that.

So, any references to firms selling high quality Whitworth tools would be
appreciated. I have some UK relatives who can do the shopping given the
location(s).

Thanks
1235.11Not a lot of help, sorryIOSG::MITCHELLElaineWed Sep 26 1990 12:346
    
    I'm afraid Whitworth isn't too readily available hear either, the
    spanners/sockets I have, have been bought when I've seen them! If
    anyone knows of a supplier of good sockets, I'd be interested too!
    
    Elaine
1235.12Metrinch againGIDDAY::HOOPERCustomer Service (Hardware), SydneyWed Sep 26 1990 13:316
1235.13Why buy new when you can buy better s/h?CHEFS::CLEMENTSDPublic Sector and TelecommsWed Sep 26 1990 15:5121
1235.14Metrinch?CHEFS::CLEMENTSDPublic Sector and TelecommsWed Sep 26 1990 15:533
    A special offer on METRINCH sockets/impact sockets/spanners was
    advertised through the Granada Owners club this month. If anybody sends
    me mail I'll send a copy of all the bumph through the internal mail.
1235.15Yes pleaseHOO78C::DUINHOVENDutch treatWed Sep 26 1990 16:085
    RE .14
    
    Please send me the info of the Granada club offer.
    
               Hans
1235.16IOSG::MITCHELLElaineWed Sep 26 1990 18:282
    
    Where is St Mary Bourne?
1235.17CHEFS::CLEMENTSDPublic Sector and TelecommsWed Sep 26 1990 20:271
    Just west of Whitchurch.
1235.18The obvious question IOSG::MARSHALLWhy can't a woman be more like a car?Wed Sep 26 1990 21:085
Where is Whitchurch?

(Answers saying it's just East of St Mary Bourne not appreciated...;-)

Scott
1235.19CHEFS::CLEMENTSDPublic Sector and TelecommsWed Sep 26 1990 21:4313
    Whitchurch is about 12 miles due west of Basingstoke can't remember the
    road number, but it is itself signposted off the ringroad. Whitchurch
    is just to the east of the A34 Newbury-Winchester etc road and St Mary
    Bourne is the other side of the A34 west of Whitchurch:
    
    
    			|A34 to Newbury			\A339 to Newbury
    	St Mary Bourne	|				 \
    	-------------------------------------------------| Basingstoke
    			|Whitchurch				 \
    			|				  ---- 
    			|
    			|A34 SOUTH
1235.20HAMPS::LINCOLN_JWhere sheep dareWed Sep 26 1990 21:534
	Is it close to St Mary Mead?. There's an old lady there I'd
	like to go and see.

	-John
1235.21CHEFS::CLEMENTSDPublic Sector and TelecommsThu Sep 27 1990 12:395
    
    
    Where's St Mary Mead? ........ ;^)
    
    Sorry, couldn't resist it!
1235.22re .20IOSG::MARSHALLWhy can't a woman be more like a car?Thu Sep 27 1990 14:063
>> an old lady I'd like to go and see

Haven't killed anyone, have we?
1235.23NEARLY::GOODENOUGHThu Sep 27 1990 15:385
    Re: .19  Don;t be confused by the map into thinking that St Mary Bourne
    is on a continuation of the junction of the A339 with the A34.  There
    isn't one.
    
    Jeff.
1235.24CHEFS::CLEMENTSDPublic Sector and TelecommsThu Sep 27 1990 16:463
    So much for my map making...... Jeff's right, there is no junction
    A34/A339, but the A339 passes UNDER the A34 by the Clover Leaf Cars
    place (Body repair shop?)
1235.25YUPPY::FOXBy appointment to Buck HouseThu Sep 27 1990 17:197
    Whitchurch is on the B3400 (Andover to Basingstoke) and the A34
    (Newbury to Winchester) bypasses the town, with slip roads at either
    end.
    
    Regards
     Whitchurch_Resident
    
1235.26SCCAOASS::BURDEN_DHe's no fun, he fell right overThu Sep 27 1990 20:087
re: .9

The SCCA is the Sports Car Club of America, the largest organization of amateur
racers in the US with over 50,000 members.  They have yearly championship
races that decide the National Champion in each class.  Winner take all.

Dave
1235.27An ex. BL importer employee....HOO78C::DUINHOVENDutch treatFri Sep 28 1990 17:499
    re: -.9 as well:
    
    Found the anonyminous sender: the guy who works as VES Material planner 
    at Logistics dept. at Gouda NL.
    He worked for British Leyland before he went to DEC.
    He made me cry by telling stories of the perfect MG spare materials
    they had to scrap.............
    
    Hans
1235.28Phew! Nearly caught out there ...NEARLY::GOODENOUGHMon Oct 01 1990 14:476
    Re: .24  Apologies - it seems I was right only by accident!  I was
    thinking you were depicting the junction of the Newbury - Basingstoke
    road with the A34 (at Newtown).  Forget the road number, but it's
    obviously a different one!
    
    Jeff.
1235.29Metrinch addressHOO78C::DUINHOVENDutch treatWed Oct 03 1990 12:0932
1235.30you are welcome.....CHEFS::CLEMENTSDPublic Sector and TelecommsFri Oct 05 1990 13:183
    No problem, Hans, I thought you asked me to send it to you!
    
    Anonymous of Queens House, Reading.