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946.1 | | SAC::PHILPOTT_I | Col I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' Philpott | Tue Jan 30 1990 19:56 | 7 |
946.2 | Incredible moulting mats | PANIC::WINTER | Do You Stop When You Hit A Rock ? | Tue Jan 30 1990 20:11 | 10 |
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I'm really irritated with the floor mats supplied with my car, I
was supplied with the "Deluxe" moulting floor mats which have left
little bits of black bits all over the carpet. It makes the inside
of the car look a mess.
Yours "5 quid a month for a mess"
Sean
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946.3 | | CHEFS::CLEMENTSD | Public Sector and Telecomms | Tue Jan 30 1990 20:32 | 33 |
946.4 | I like them... | UKCSSE::RDAVIES | Live long and prosper | Wed Jan 31 1990 14:02 | 7 |
| The floor mats supplied by Hertz in my Citroen were Citroen originals.
Personally I think they do help keep the car clean, and I think
originals are vastly superior to 'bits shops' cheapies as they stay
where they're supposed to. Interesting that this has just come up,
they've been on the quotes as long as I can remember.
Richard
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946.5 | | CURRNT::PREECE | Atonal apples and amplified heat... | Wed Jan 31 1990 14:17 | 12 |
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>> resale value of the car by about 75p because the carpet is cleaner. On lease
>>cars its the lease company which has to resell them anyway so this doesn't
>>apply.
I *suspect* (anybody know for sure ?) that the final cost to DEC of
a lease car is affected by it's resale value. In other words, we
get something back if it's in good nick at the end of it's term.
My last employer used to have this deal, and went to considerable
trouble to keep us aware of it !
Ian
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946.6 | | VANILA::LINCOLN | Reality is not what it seems | Wed Jan 31 1990 15:08 | 7 |
| These floor mats sound like the Lease equivalent of windscreen
washer fluid at a service.
You know the stuff they charge you a full bottle's worth even
when you take the car in with the reservoirs full.
-John
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946.7 | | CHEFS::CLEMENTSD | Public Sector and Telecomms | Wed Jan 31 1990 15:12 | 21 |
| Re the last one tho' we may be going down a Lease T's and C's rathole.
Moderator persons, if there is a need for a separate note on just the
lease scheme perhaps you could decide?
Just who is the customer on the lease, Digital or us the paying
punters? If there is money to come back to anybody at the end of
the lease surely it should be to us and not the company? Over the
last 4 cars my lease payments have averaged (over 30 months) almost
exactly the list price of the car when new: lease company does NOT
pay list but can be up to 20% off. They sell the car at the end
for a resale value which has been increasing to silly figures over
the last few years. But, resale value, we are told is one of thevreasons
foe high lease costs to us (doesn't compute so far does it?) so
it seems that PHH/Hertz are getting money off us in high lease costs
and then raking it in in high residual value at the end of the lease.
Like several back Front floor mats have been on the car quote form
since the days of tablets of stone ...........
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946.8 | | UKCSSE::RDAVIES | Live long and prosper | Wed Jan 31 1990 16:10 | 13 |
| re .7
Dave, this argument is perrenial, there are already a proliferation of
notes with comments about how unfair/expensive/slow/good/beneficial/???
The scheme is, I think frankly it's a waste of time trying to round them
all up into one note as another one is bound to start up on a
different vein (like this one :-) ) but on the same basic subject.
THE DIGITAL LEASE SCHEME!
Good or bad you have to live with it!.
Richard
(that's not to say you won't keep complaining anyway :-) )
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946.9 | | SUBURB::PARKER | | Wed Jan 31 1990 16:29 | 13 |
| I guess I can understand Digital wanting the carpets kept in reasonable
nick; I don't mind them insisting on floormats being supplied.
However, the one under the driver's seat gets consigned to the boot,
for safety reasons. A piece of mat sliding round the floor is an
unstable base for the feet which are doing some of the controlling
of the car, and also tend at times to ruck up under the brake pedal,
and all of a sudden the brakes don't seem to work.
So why do I put it in the boot, rather than the garage? They do
make handy driving mats in case you get stuck in sand or mud.
Steve
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946.10 | I find them usefull | TLE::LEGERLOTZ | I came. I saw. I left. | Wed Jan 31 1990 16:54 | 13 |
| I've always gotten carpeted floor mats for my cars. The dealer sells them in
many cases - they're usually the same colour as the carpet in the car.
I find them convienient because you can use them until they get really crappy,
and then go buy another set of them. If they get full of sand (tracked in on
your shoes in the winter), you can just lift them out, beat them, and vaccuum
them. For people who drive long distances on the motorway (salesmen for
example) rest their accelerator foot on same part of the carpet - all the time.
The fact that the driver's heel is digging down into the same spot all of the
time will ultimately cause a hole in the carpet. If there are floor mats, the
hole appears in them. New floormats, no unsightly hole...
-Al
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946.11 | | CHEFS::CLEMENTSD | Public Sector and Telecomms | Wed Jan 31 1990 17:47 | 9 |
|
Robin, thanks for at least being an active moderator that at least
takes his responsibilities seriously!
Regs,
Dick (who believes that the ultimate sanction that a punter has
is to vote with his/her feet and doesn't like not to have that option)
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946.12 | | UKCSSE::RDAVIES | Live long and prosper | Wed Jan 31 1990 19:45 | 13 |
| >> <<< Note 946.9 by SUBURB::PARKER >>>
>> However, the one under the driver's seat gets consigned to the boot,
>> for safety reasons. A piece of mat sliding round the floor is an
>> unstable base for the feet which are doing some of the controlling
>> of the car, and also tend at times to ruck up under the brake pedal,
>> and all of a sudden the brakes don't seem to work.
Again, it obviously depends on the supplier: The citroen one is a heavy
rubber, fitted perfectly to the footwell, it NEVER slides or rucks. My
only complaint would be that it is difficult to wipe off wet shoes on a
rubber mat, for that you need the carpet.
Richard
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946.13 | Just to keep my feet dry. | UTROP1::BOSMAN_P | | Thu Feb 01 1990 10:46 | 15 |
| Hmm..
I took the original carpeting out of our Ninety and replaced it
with a rubber floor matt. It helps draining the vehicle when I get
it soaked again.
A lot of snow or rain will get the floor of any car pretty wet.
The carpeting takes ages to dry as your car floor is poorly ventilated.
The moist collects at the lowest point and the floor starts to rot.
But since you all seem to be leasing you won't have the car anymore
when the effects begin to show from the underside.
For the rest it's up to personal preferance and thats it.
Peter
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946.14 | CD = Carpet Deluxe !! | WARNUT::SMITHC | You're OK, come on, keep going, BANG !!! | Thu Feb 01 1990 13:33 | 10 |
| re:mats sliding around.
My Astra CD comes with "luxury" mats as standard. They're brill. Same
carpeting as the main carpet (uh?), cut to the right shape for the car,
*and* have press studs which fix them to the main carpet so that they
cannot slide aound !!
Mind you, the PHH ones look really tacky on top of them :-) :-)
Colin
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946.15 | Why lease? | IOSG::MARSHALL | Scott "Wanted: Garage to rent" | Thu Feb 01 1990 13:34 | 4 |
| Everyone I've spoken to thinks the lease scheme is a rip-off. There seems to be
a lot of unhappy feeling about it in this note. So why do people do it?
IAMFI.
Scott.
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946.16 | | YUPPY::FINN | | Mon Feb 05 1990 16:33 | 10 |
| CAR FLEET PLEASE NOTE
My car was also supplied with "off-the-shelf" floor mats rather
than the manufacturer's model. I considered it dangerous, on the
grounds that it moves around, and so I too have consigned it to
the boot, where it will remain for the rest of the lease.
MORAL: If the Fleet Department wants to keep the carpet clean in
order to keep the resale value high, they should INSIST that all
vehicles are supplied with the manufacturer's floormats.
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946.17 | | NEARLY::GOODENOUGH | | Wed Feb 07 1990 16:53 | 3 |
| Is there a lease note I can reply to .15 in?
J
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946.18 | | CHEFS::CLEMENTSD | Public Sector and Telecomms | Thu Feb 08 1990 13:42 | 1 |
| re .17 you could try "the usual rathole" 925, I think.....
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