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| 927.1 | UK prices. | SHAPES::STREATFIELDC | WIZARD STUFF | Tue Jan 16 1990 19:12 | 7 |
| 927.2 | Overpriced '90s MG! | CURRNT::SAXBY | Isn't it 5.30 yet? | Tue Jan 16 1990 19:14 | 6 |
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Our local BMW dealer (Barons in Farnborough) had a Z1 in for a while
recently. I don't know the price, but I do know it would have been
TOO MUCH!
Mark
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| 927.3 | Changed alegiance | VANILA::LINCOLN | Reality is not what it seems | Tue Jan 16 1990 20:28 | 3 |
| What happened to the MVS then Patrick?.
-John
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| 927.4 | ex | NCEIS1::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux, Nice, 828-6995 | Wed Jan 17 1990 14:21 | 7 |
| The MVS is going well, even stronger than before (engine converted
to 2.8 in June, new suspension settings worked until I find perfection
... very close)
If we can find a good deal we're in the market for 2 Z1's. Seems
that the only place to buy one at a reasonable price is West Germany.
I'll probably sell the Venturi then.
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| 927.5 | It couldn't last ... | PLAYER::KENNEDY_C | | Wed Jan 17 1990 17:41 | 8 |
| Patrick,
Get yourself a copy of Auto Motor & Sport, to get an idea of the German
market. For the British market, I would recommend the Sunday Times.
Thinking of going back to a 911? Good on ya!
Colin K.
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| 927.6 | | FOOT::SAXBY | Isn't it 5.30 yet? | Wed Jan 17 1990 17:45 | 6 |
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No Colin, read ALL the last notes.
He's thinking of investing in BMW Z1s!
Mark
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| 927.7 | Some people! | SIMD::KENNEDY_C | | Thu Jan 18 1990 13:27 | 3 |
| Well Mark, if YOU actually read the base note, you'll realise that a
911 Speedster must obviously be made by BMW, or was it ME who missed
the point?
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| 927.8 | Who me? | INCH::SAXBY | Isn't it 5.30 yet? | Thu Jan 18 1990 13:36 | 5 |
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Oops! Very true Colin! Still he does seem to be swayed towards the
Z1 from the tone of the notes.
Mark
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| 927.9 | aaahh a 911 .... !!!! | NCEIS1::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux, Nice, 828-6995 | Fri Jan 19 1990 19:49 | 13 |
| Well, if I could find a 911 speedster at a reasonable price (that
is a price I could afford) I would buy it and keep it for a while;
This way I would achieve 2 things
- drive a 911 (and an open one)
- make a lot of money
I still wonder if the Z1 will follow the same curve ($). I have a
feeling that the Z1 is less fun to drive.
I was planning to get current copies of Auto Motor und Sport and
Auto Sport. Thanks for the advice Colin.
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| 927.10 | Z1's for sale... | NDLIS4::JRICHARDS | City rumour, Japan Corp. buys UK PLC | Mon Jan 22 1990 11:38 | 8 |
| Local paper at the weekend had a couple of brand new Z1's (delivery
milage) for between 80,000 and 90,000 DM (these were private deals,
not through dealers). Z1's are available from dealers but they have
to add the VAT (but you'd probably be able to reclaim that if you
exported). If you're interested I'll dig up a few more details tonight.
By the way these were in the Frankfurt area.
Jan
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| 927.11 | Z1 prices... | NDLIS3::JRICHARDS | City rumour, Japan Corp. buys UK PLC | Tue Jan 23 1990 18:30 | 13 |
| Handler prices for Z1's vary from 85,000 DM to 89,900 DM (black
with black leather interior). This includes the 14% VAT. Private
prices (only one) was 79,900 DM (green) with no VAT. All are with
delivery milage, these examples were taken from "Inserat" (German
version of Exchange and Mart) and "Frankfurter Runschau", all numbers
were Frankfurt or the surroundings. There seem to be a large number
of this little sports car floating around, I wouldn't be certain
that it's a sound investment for the future but then we all wish
we'd kept that xyz don't we...
Jan
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| 927.12 | You confirm my impressions | NCEIS1::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux, Nice, 828-6995 | Wed Jan 24 1990 11:41 | 6 |
| Many thanks for all this Jan. I wasn't sure about the domestic market
for Z1's. Outside Germany the Z1's are only available in VERY limited
quantities. For example the french BMW dealers won't take any orders
since the 600 units allocated for the next x (months years?) have
been sold before day 1 of delivery and they can't quote any delivery
date any more.
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| 927.13 | Z1's galore | NDLIS4::JRICHARDS | City rumour, Japan Corp. buys UK PLC | Mon Jan 29 1990 13:37 | 8 |
| Was at a large BMW dealer over the weekend and saw eight (8) Z1's
waiting for the dealer inspection after delivery (still had the
wax on them). Don't know if these were spoken for or not as no salesman
was around. Also anyone interested in an M3, there were 10 of
these in the used car lot, prices ranging from 42,000DM to 95,000DM
(brand new), as well as a few M3 Cabrios.
Jan
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| 927.14 | It's Red, but it's not a Ferrari ! | BONNET::HEYER | | Thu Feb 22 1990 23:19 | 19 |
| Some more water....
Infos from ' Autos International' issue#1 Feb 90
French contigent of Z1's : 220 cars for the Year
Sold 370.000 FF , around DEC 89 we had the possibility to read ads in
newspapers at 450.000 FF... But it was only ads : I went around the
same period in an Auction in Lyon. There was 2 Z1's brand new. One were
sold 360.000 FF , the other went for 380.000 FF..
In Germany, the Z1 was sold DM 83.000 and some were negociated around
118.000 DM. When the announcement have been made that the Z1 will be
produced at the rate of 10 to 12 a Day, the average prices falled back
to 80/82.000 DM.
Morality : It's red, but it's not a Ferrari !
CH-Jacques.
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| 927.15 | I can confirm | NCEIS1::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux, Nice, 828-6995 | Fri Feb 23 1990 17:54 | 11 |
| Yep, I've found the same results. I've called a few people who had
put an ad in the auto magazines. Price in the normal range.
I've also read a number of road tests : every article concludes
that the car is perfectly built and corners very nicely. But the
price of this perfection is ... weight and poor performance. In
addition they seem to produce the Z1 with long gear ratios. A 325
beats the Z1 in all acceleration tests. That's not what I'm looking
for (even if the Z1 beats the 325 in corners ...)
I've turned my eyes to the new Elan ....
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