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766.5 | More exhausts | IOSG::MARSHALL | Waterloo Sunset | Thu Nov 08 1990 18:47 | 8 |
| Is it legal to use a "straight through" silencer on public roads?
Will it be unbearably loud? Will the neighbours stop talking to me?
What will the effect of a straight-through exhaust be on the engine
(eg performance, mpg, engine longevity), which, coming from a boring old Sierra,
was presumably designed to work with a baffled exhaust?
Scott
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766.6 | | MARVIN::RUSLING | Hastings Upper Layers | Thu Nov 08 1990 20:15 | 9 |
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When I first fired up the Marlin, it had just the side pipes, it
sounded like a Vulcan bomber and the flames were around 2' long.
A good box should create a low pressure zone that attempts to pull out
the exhaust (at the very least it should not create any back pressure).
So, I guess it depends if you like being conspicuous or not...
Dave
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766.7 | | CHEFS::OSBORNEC | | Thu Nov 08 1990 21:04 | 15 |
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On road-going 4-strokes straight through pipes are just a noisy bore, &
will not make the vehicle significantly faster at all. Even racing
machinery being pushed below 110db is not suffering a noticeable (in
feel) difference.
Racing 2-strokes are quite different, but you're not likely to see those
in your average commuterbile. Silly little boys on 50cc mopeds tend to
lose performance with badly designed expansion chambers, but boys will
be boys ............
Pal of mine has an XK120 with straight through pipes in 1/8 inch
copper! Loud, but deep. No tinny reverberation, but at least he takes
it on the road very rarely -- but sounds great at a sprint.
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766.8 | Clarification | IOSG::MARSHALL | Waterloo Sunset | Fri Nov 09 1990 15:54 | 35 |
| Perhaps I'd better clarify what I mean.
I don't want the car to annoy the neighbours, but I want it to sound like a
sports car and not a Ford Sierra. I was recommended to get a straight-through
silencer to achieve this purpose.
This looks, externally, exactly like an ordianary silencer box. The difference
is if you look in one end you can see out of the other. The baffle structure
is around the edges. Pretty picture time:
__________________ ______________________
1) |XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX| 2) |XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
_____|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|_____ _____|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ X|_____
| X
_____ _____ _____ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _| X _____
|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX| |XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX| |______________________|
"Straight through" silencer; Ordinary silencer; the exhaust gases
XXX is the baffle material must pass through the baffle
3)
_______________________________
_______________________________
Straight through pipe; no baffle!
My query is what will the difference in volume and "timbre" of noise be between
the three systems? I assume racing cars have (3)?
Most production car exhausts have a "silencer" box and a "resonator" box. What
is the difference between these in terms of construction and function?
Scott
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766.9 | Ansa exhaust? | ZPOVC::TEOHEN | | Mon Jun 10 1991 20:47 | 8 |
| So much about Janspeed and Perry exhuasts, what about Ansa Marmite
exhaust? It's supposed to be high performance stuff from Italy. Has
anyone had experience with this? like on Alfa cars.
Feedback please!
TTH
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766.10 | Do they do an Ansa Vegemite version too ? ;-) | CRATE::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Mon Jun 10 1991 21:28 | 16 |
766.11 | Jetex ??? Dunno! | ZPOVC::TEOHEN | | Tue Jun 11 1991 18:58 | 6 |
| Never heard of Jetex? Where is it from? Is it good, compared with
Janspeed, Ansa...?
Well...
TTH
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766.12 | 3-2-1 Liftoff ! | CHEST::RAWSON | Fnarr! Fnarr! | Tue Jun 11 1991 19:13 | 9 |
| > Never heard of Jetex? Where is it from? Is it good, compared with
> Janspeed, Ansa...?
I always thought they made those rocket engines that you put on model
planes ! You remember, the ones that you lit and they ran for only a
few seconds. Thinking of which that principle has been adopted by a
few motor manufacturers.
Alex :^)
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766.13 | Jetex, cheap exhausts.... | COMICS::COOMBER | Endurance racers do it all night | Tue Jun 11 1991 19:28 | 29 |
766.14 | Ansa exhaust + K&N filter | ZPOVC::TEOHEN | | Tue Jun 11 1991 20:37 | 15 |
| Ansa exhaust comes ready to fit on various makes/models of cars. I have
one tried out (fitted by the workshop sales guy) and it proved to be
smoother in rev on my Alfa 33 1.7 Cloverleaf. Well, not the entire
exhaust system, only the tailpipe with muffler/baffler. The exhaust
looks beautiful, stainless steel chromed! I'm tempted to try the entire
exhaust system including the manifolds. Costs around S$400/- or ~140
pounds. Is that cheap or expensive? Will that really help add more
power and better fuel consumption? Has anyone of you had this fitted
and how was it?
Incidentally, I had K&N air filters fitted the other day when the
performance has been markedly good. However, it's too noisy when
accelerating hard; the car seems to have lost the "Alfa sound"!
TTH
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766.15 | | NCEIS1::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux, Nice, 828-6995 | Wed Jun 12 1991 13:24 | 3 |
766.16 | I remember when I were a lad.... | NSDC::SIMPSON | | Thu Jun 13 1991 10:48 | 23 |
766.17 | :^) | NCEIS1::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux, Nice, 828-6995 | Thu Jun 13 1991 11:11 | 6 |
766.18 | Cars too | NEARLY::GOODENOUGH | | Fri Jun 14 1991 14:34 | 4 |
| They were also used in model racing cars - Jetex made the whole kit.
Great fun.
Jeff.
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766.19 | More childhood reminiscences | MALLET::BARKER | Pretty Damn Cosmic | Fri Jun 14 1991 17:09 | 7 |
| I also played with Jetex engines while a yougster. The fuse was also
very useful if you were into making large bangs with other chemicals 'nuff said.
I haven't seen them around for 15 years. I don't know if they are still
available whether they were felt to be unsafe, the company went bust or what.
Nigel
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766.20 | | NEARLY::GOODENOUGH | | Fri Jun 14 1991 18:47 | 2 |
| I expect the kids started sniffing them ...
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766.21 | | SUBURB::VEALES | Simon Veale - DEC Park, Reading | Fri Jun 14 1991 18:55 | 5 |
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I seem to remember it being difficult even to breathe near burning JETEX,
let alone sniff it (no I didn't try) !!
Didn't it give off ammonia or something ?
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766.22 | two more names | PCOJCT::MILBERG | My boss called- Red, Blue or White? | Sat Jun 15 1991 07:29 | 10 |
| combining the original topic - brands of exhaust systems
with the sidebar topic - childhood reminiscing
1. are Abarth mufflers still made? I had one (bought in Rome) on
my 1967 Fiat 850 Spyder.
2. Are Stebro mufflers still made? I HAVE one on the 1969 Elan.
-Barry-
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766.23 | Ansa+Janspeed -> flying Alfa? | ZPOVC::TEOHEN | | Tue Jun 18 1991 15:29 | 9 |
| I sent my car for servicing today. My service adviser recommended a
combination of Ansa for manifolds/extractor and Janspeed tailpipe for
the exhaust system for my Alfa 1.7 carburetter. He said this will give
smoother rev and boost performance. How is this true? Has anyone
experienced with such a combination?
Janspeed is rather expensive, though!
TTH
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