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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

637.0. "UK lighting regulations ?" by GVA01::STIFF (Paul Stiff, EHQIS, DTN:821-4167) Tue Jun 13 1989 15:21

    I got no answer in "EURO MOTORING" for thin, so I did a DIR/TIT=lights....
    and found nothing relevant:
    
    I am going to the UK by car in early July and have a question regarding
    UK lighting regulations:
    
    Do I have to stick little black "blanking" stickers on my headlights
    like the British people do when they go to central Europe ?
    
    If so, where can I find suitable stickers ?
    
    Paul
    
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637.17Jargon and TerminologyIOSG::MARSHALLHarry PalmerWed Aug 22 1990 14:4517
What are the differences in beam shape, legally allowed intensity and legally
allowed conditions of use for the following types of front lights (I've filled
in the odd answers that I already know):

Fog lamps:       Short range, wide beam, must be 'E' approved bulbs <= 60W, use
                 in seriously reduced visibility (<100 feet?)

"Driving" lamps: (aka auxiliary lamps?), any wattage bulb allowed, doesn't need
                 'E' approval, use in the same way as main beam headlamps?

"Spot" lamps:    long range narrow beam?  Not legal for road use?

"Long range" lamps: same as spot lamps?

Is it legal to use main beam headlamps in the role of front fog lamps?

Scott
637.18Two means to the same end.SUBURB::SCREENERRobert Screene, UK Finance EUCWed Aug 22 1990 23:024
    Main Beam, instead of fog lamps?
    
    Of course they are suitable, perfect to blind and annoy other drivers.  
    Not much use in fog though.
637.19NEARLY::GOODENOUGHThu Aug 23 1990 13:566
    Re: .16
    
    Exactly!  I also use a similar rule of thumb to decide when I should
    switch my driving lights on in low light conditions.
    
    Jeff.
637.20re -1IOSG::MARSHALLHarry PalmerWed Aug 29 1990 16:423
But what exactly are "driving lamps" ???

Scott
637.21Driving lights are what you drive onNEARLY::GOODENOUGHWed Aug 29 1990 17:558
    Re: .20: an admittedly loose phrase to describe my "non-fog" lights -
    i.e. normal intensity.  Dim-dip or dipped main beam as appropriate.
    Note that I only use dim-dip in marginal conditions - that awkward
    twilight phase in towns for example.  I use dipped main beam in rain,
    or whenever conditions warrant it.
    
    Hope that's clearer.
    Jeff.
637.22Confused as ever...IOSG::MARSHALLHarry PalmerWed Aug 29 1990 18:075
From a legal point of view, "driving lamps" are not the same as "headlamps"
(by which I mean dip, main beam and dim-dip).  Headlamps must have E-approved
bulbs, whereas driving lamps do not need E-approved bulbs (ie you can put 100W
in them if you like!).  So back to the original question: under what conditions
can "driving lamps" legally be used?
637.23FORTY2::QUICKTrust me, I know what I'm doing.Wed Aug 29 1990 18:103
	Main beam only I thought, and only in conjunction with proper
	headlamps.
637.24 Still catching up. SUBURB::POWELLMNostalgia isn't what it used to be!Tue Jan 26 1993 16:2117
    Under the Construction and Use Regulations, it is illegal to use any
    front mounted lamp (ie. switch it on!), the centre of which is less
    than 24" from the road surface except in the circumstances of fog or
    falling snow.
    
    	Neither "fog" nor "falling snow" is defined.
    
    	What this means is that a VERY large proportion of motorists today
    consistantly drive around breaking the Law in this regard.  No-one
    seems to care except for those being dazzled, certainly I've never
    heard of any prosecution by the Police.  Maybe some daring soul should
    take out a private summons and try and get some publicity for it.
    
    	The same goes for my favourite hobby horse - people who drive in
    the overtaking lanes of Motorways, any takers?
    
    				Malcolm.
637.25KERNEL::FISCHERITonight I fancy myselfTue Jan 26 1993 16:336
Although it's annoying, it seems to be too trivial a problem for the police
to bother with. Front fog lamps are far less annoying than rear ones
anyway.


	Ian
637.26TASTY::JEFFERYThe car behind is an ATOYOTWed Jan 27 1993 11:163
And they look quite pretty!

Mark.