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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

541.0. "Semi-auto gearboxes?" by HAMPS::PHILPOTT_I (Col. Philpott is back in action...) Tue Apr 11 1989 14:20

    
    I noticed in a press article recently that this year's Ferrari F1
    race cars have what is described as either a "semi-automatic gearbox"
    or a "remote controlled gearbox": apparently you press a switch
    to change up a gear, and another switch to change down one gear.
    
    The questions I have are:
    
    When do you expect we'll see this or something like it on a road
    car at a price we can afford?
    
    Would you want it?
    
    /. Ian .\
    
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541.15More on Citroen Semi-AutosMASALA::LCOWANMon Sep 17 1990 01:2931
    
    Some years ago I had a Citroen GS "Convertisseur", it had a three-speed
    manual box with a torque converter/hydraulic wet-plate clutch built in.
    Clutch actuation was by switches at either end of the selector gate, so
    after getting on the move via the slip of the converter, subsequent
    gear changes were aided by the electro-hydraulic disengagement of the
    normal-ish hydraulic clutch. Altogether a very nice thing to drive, but
    the 1015cc engine had to work rather too hard and my torque converter
    leaked oil all over the front brake discs (inboard), so I swapped the
    lot out for a standard 1220cc engine and manual gearbox.
    
    Later I owned a CX "C-matic" which was identical in principle. It went
    better but did a bit too much slipping for my liking, although a lovely
    relaxing thing to drive.
    
    Beetle semi-autos were actually vacuum-operated on the same principles
    as the Citroen system, although I'm not sure of the NSU RO80, whether
    it was hydraulic or pneumatic, but the microswitch was under the gear
    knob and could give heart-attacks if you happen to forget & rest your
    hand on the lever whilst driving!
    
    Sudden nostalgia!  I just remembered the great wheelspins you could get
    with the GS if you put it into 1st and held the lever just off the end
    of gate travel, revved the engine (hydraulic clutch still disengaged
    because it thought the gearbox was in neutral) and then pulled the
    lever back against the gate; the clutch dropped and off you went at a
    great rate of knots(ish!). Ah, fond memories.......
    
    Cheers,
    
    	Les Cowan, SQF Manufacturing.