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466.4 | Any info on Welding Kits ? Types/Prices/Use... | CRATE::RUTTER | Rut-The-Nut | Fri Apr 05 1991 17:11 | 43 |
466.5 | Sorry, forgotten the make | VOGON::MITCHELLE | Beware of the green meanie | Fri Apr 05 1991 18:15 | 24 |
466.6 | Well, what if I bring a strong bag? | SHIPS::SAXBY_M | Smoke me a kipper... | Fri Apr 05 1991 18:21 | 6 |
| FYI, Calor Gas fire bottles are also not sold to you, but merely
loaned (against a hefty deposit) for you to keep the gas in while you
use it! :^)
Mark
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466.7 | MIGIT.... | COMICS::COOMBER | Beware of low flying moguls... | Fri Apr 05 1991 20:16 | 13 |
| If you can afford it TIG is just the the best, but for general uses
MIG with 5% argon is the best bet. I have done ally welding with a mig
on a motorcycle engine case, the result was very acceptable. I have
also used ARC for heavy jobs but it is harder to make a nice neat job
if you try to use it for think sheeting. ARC brasing is just something
else. Generally MIGATRONIC make some of the best mig and tig gear but
its expensive. There are obviously others but that just happens to be
the make I have used. For general not really high quality but good
value for money I'm lead to beleive that the CLARKE range on welding
equipment is quite good.
Garry
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466.9 | Its a gas | COMICS::COOMBER | Beware of low flying moguls... | Mon Apr 08 1991 13:50 | 6 |
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Another reason for using bottles rather than the gas cannisters, apart
from the high cost, is that A) steel welds are cleaner and you get less
splatter and B) forget ally welding with C02.
Garry
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466.11 | gassed | COMICS::COOMBER | Beware of low flying moguls... | Mon Apr 08 1991 16:59 | 17 |
466.12 | 101 Questions re Mig/Tig | ESSB::DOODY | | Thu Apr 25 1991 19:51 | 18 |
| I too am just at this stage re. purchase of MIG welder:
The model I am interested in is something in the SIP range..
Perhaps the "Autobody+" range.
However I have some questions:
It must be good for thin bodywork
(I already have oxy/actylene and Arc)
What is the difference in practice between gas/gassless MIG welding
(ie is the gassless type any good?)
Would I be better off with Tig? but are there any DIY sets available and
at what price?
And finally does anyone know the address for SIP in UK (I want to find
out from them who their Irish distributors are.
Brian.
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466.14 | | CHEFS::CLEMENTSD | So much to do...so little time | Fri Apr 26 1991 12:34 | 6 |
| Try "Toolwise" in Leicester for the info on SIP
Why do you want MIG and Arc? Don't they achieve the same end goal?
MIG is kind of expensive to run if you stay with the tiny bottles so go
with a set that you can get a full size bottle regulator for.
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466.16 | It's a good job I have got a thick skin........ | CHEFS::CLEMENTSD | So much to do...so little time | Fri Apr 26 1991 13:19 | 7 |
| No, I didn't say I could weld 22g steel together, Derek, so why would
you read that assumption into a a question asked in the interests of
improving my knowledge?
So having put the question down with a statement you then don't tell me
whether 22g steel can be joined using MIG techniques. I infer from you
that it can't be ARC welded.........
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466.19 | I think that we can avoid the clash of the Titans..... | CHEFS::CLEMENTSD | So much to do...so little time | Fri Apr 26 1991 14:35 | 10 |
| No offence taken Derek, and I'm sure none was meant. With a conference
that moves as fast as this one does, sometimes youy can lose track of
what's being said or going on, so if my timing was out or something you
said didn't stick, that's an error/shortcoming down to me. Why does
work keep getting in the way of Noting?....;-)
I have a job gas welding 22g steel.
Give me 12g copper and a stick of silver solder any day of the week!
Maybe I ought to build my own steam car.........
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466.20 | Its a gas(bottle) Mig for me | ESSB::DOODY | | Fri Apr 26 1991 17:54 | 32 |
| Gents,
THank you very much for your comments.....
I have oxy acteylene and find that welds in thin material tend to
distort quite a lot if both edges to be joined are not exactly parallel
==> very close fit needed --> it is excellent for custom exhaust
construction.
Brazing is very easy and quite strong BUT cannot be grinded down if you
wish to preserve the strength of the join. Brazing is extremely
difficult where there is a joddled joint
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Maybe i'm over welding these type of joints?
As for arc : it's more useful for constructing workbenches than car
work.
It's the same old story..
No matter how many tools/gadgets you have :: you'll never have enough!
Thanx.
Brian.
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