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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

355.0. "Escort MK1 1300 GT Quotes?" by KERNEL::RADBURN () Fri Oct 14 1988 16:40

    Hi there people.
    
    	I have a 1972 Escort MK1 1300 GT in good condition that I am
    going to sell in the near future. It has only got around 60,000
    miles on the clock (no it has not clocked once already!) and had
    a new engine put in at the 36,000 mile mark due to the old one being
    knackered before I got it.
    	The bodywork is very good with only three or four surface rust
    patches (currently being treated).
    
    	The point of all this is that I am hoping somebody in the know
    could give me some idea of the price I could expect when I sell
    it taking into consideration the above factors and that it is not
    that common a car.
    
    	Any replies would be greatly appreciated.
    
    Thanks in advance.
    Gary.
    
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355.7BDA engine for MK1EEMELI::HAUTALAAsko Eho rules OK!Tue Feb 16 1993 15:498
    
    Anyone know MK1 engine called BDA? I know it is a very fine and
    powerful engine and I think I saw one last Friday accelerating 
    very fast away. Sound of engine was something unbelievable!
    
    
    Hannu
    
355.8beastieSIOG::KANEThe clot, thickens...Tue Feb 16 1993 17:028
    RE: The sound of the engine

    I remember "Autocar" saying that the Suzuki Swift GTi's engine sounded
    very like an Escort BDA's (or maybe DBA ?), only a tad quieter

    Ah the Suzzi Swift GTi (the smooth shaped one): *there's* a car !

    Mike (Indulging; but don't we all ?)
355.9BDA fitted to Mk1 RS1600 & Mk2 RS1800ELBOW::BELLINGERTue Feb 16 1993 21:3914
	RE : Anyone know MK1 engine called BDA?

	The BDA engine was a developed by Cosworth and was a 16 valve engine
	based around the Ford Cross Flow bottom end.

	The engine was originaly fitted to the Mk1 Escort and was named the
	RS1600 and was latter fitted to the Mk2 RS1800. Both cars were used
	by Ford in the 70's as probably the most successful rally cars of the
	time.

	Both cars today are very rare, and fine examples fetch classic car
	prices of around 10K pounds +

	Peter.
355.10suzuki? bah!EEMELI::HAUTALAAsko Eho rules OK!Tue Feb 16 1993 21:4512
    
    re -1:
    
    Thanks for info. Do you know how powerful they were?
    
    re -2:
    
    I have seen those Suzuki Swift GTI:s and they like a bee
    in a jar! Nothing compared to that BDA Escort. Nothing of interest.
    
    
    Hannu
355.11AEOEN1::MATTHEWSM&M Enterprises, the CATCH 22Wed Feb 17 1993 11:308
Doesn't BDA stand for "belt driven ancillaries" ? Meaning I suppose
that the overhead cam is belt driven ...

Quite standard these days ...

I remember hearing about the possibility of putting one of these
BDA engines in a Mini back in the late '70s, and if I hadn't
written the car off, might have been tempted ...
355.12F2 engine ?ULYSSE::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584Wed Feb 17 1993 11:325
355.13Mind you I've been wrong before 8^).ESBS01::HARRISOne testimonial short ...Thu Feb 18 1993 11:0110
355.14AEOEN1::MATTHEWSM&M Enterprises, the CATCH 22Thu Feb 18 1993 12:296
I think the BDA was based on the Ford 1500 engine, as fitted to the
GT Cortina of the 60's. This had a five rather than three bearing
bottom end, and was therefore a lot stronger.

The Anglia with 105E motor was around 1000cc and was a three bearing
motor (as was the Anglia 1200, which had the 123 motor).
355.15those were the days !ULYSSE::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584Thu Feb 18 1993 13:014
355.16AEOEN1::MATTHEWSM&M Enterprises, the CATCH 22Thu Feb 18 1993 13:577
...probably due to the fact that the block was designed to be suitable
for engine sizes from 1000 to 1600 cc, just by changing the crank and
conrods.

The 1000cc engine was very over square, so ran high revs no problem.
It did tend to make it a bit flat at low revs though, although this isn't
a problem for a race car ...
355.17WARNUT::RICETINY CLANGER for Prime MinisterFri Feb 19 1993 20:393
    This months (March 93) issue of CARS & CAR CONVERSIONS (CCC) has a
    feature on a BDA engined METRO in Jamaica.