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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

315.0. "Dim-dip headlights" by RDGENG::RDAVIES (Has your brain been in touch today) Wed Sep 21 1988 13:29

    This rathole has been opened from note 256.36 onwards as a discussion
    was started on dim-sip headlights.
    

    Richard.
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Note 256.33                    Renault 5 GT Turbo                       33 of 42
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	 Lights

	 The headlights are pretty powerful, and the (standard) front 
         fog lights should come in useful. The "side-lights" appear to 
         be the euro-reg dim-dip lights, so are very bright even 
         during the day. I always drive with my side-lights on, and 
         the number of drivers who flash you is incredible, ain't they 
         seen volvo/saabs before???

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315.22Have you ever left your lights on ?KERNEL::SHELLEYRThu Dec 06 1990 18:5625
    I don't know if anyone else thinks this is a good/naff idea but here
    goes.

    A lot of cars these days have got a "lights on" warning buzzer if you
    have your lights on when you open the door. However, the one I drive
    doesn't (XR3i).

    After accidently leaving my lights on all day (All be it side lights),
    and subsequently draining the battery, I tried to think of a way that
    would remind me to turn the lights off if I had them on during the day.

    I came up with this, if you put your lights on during the day (ie bad
    light, rain, fog etc.), lock your drivers door. Then if you forget and
    go to get out , you notice the door is locked and aha ! you check the
    light switch.

    It never fails. It may be debateable on whether you should travel  with
    the door locked as in the event of an accident it may make it more
    difficult to get out. Also women may prefer to always lock their doors
    if travelling alone.

    Comments ?

    - Roy
     
315.23!VOGON::ATWALDreams, they complicate my lifeThu Dec 06 1990 19:0110
but how will you remember to lock your door if you forget to switch
off your lights???


it won't work on all cars; on R5's you can still open the door from the 
inside without unlocking it (the door handle seems to take care of it itself)



....art
315.24after market version availableUKCSSE::RDAVIESI can't trype for nits!Thu Dec 06 1990 19:108
    Yuo can buy a little unit that wires between the sidelight and ignition
    circuits. If your lights are on, as you turn off the ignition you get a
    six second bleep. Enough to remind you, but if you intentionally want
    to leave them on it doesn't keep on. 
    
    Fitted one to both my previous BX's and to my wife's Visa. Magic!
    
    Richard
315.25ClarificationKERNEL::SHELLEYRThu Dec 06 1990 19:2315
    RE: <how will you remember to lock your door>
    
    Sorry Art, I was not very clear.
    
    The thing to do is to lock your door _when_ you put your lights
    on. For instance I used to think when switching on the lights on
    the way to work "I must remember to switch the lights off", now
    I just lock the door.
    
    I agree that this method may not work on all cars. Indeed on my car
    when you go to open the locked door from the inside it automatically
    unlocks, but its the noise from the central locking that is the
    reminder for me. 
                                             
    - Roy
315.26Well, if you must buy Ford ...NEARLY::GOODENOUGHThu Dec 06 1990 20:154
    Of course the real answer is to choose a make that fits lights on
    warnings as standard.  I wouldn't buy one that didn't - with my memory!
    
    Jeff.
315.27Ford gives you more ? - light ?CRATE::RUTTERRutter the NutterThu Dec 06 1990 20:2911
    Well, lights go off when I turn ignition off, unless
    'parking lights' are enabled.
    
    My other car (also not a Ford :-) has a buzzer.
    
    Trouble with that, the door switch is getting unreliable
    and interior light/warning buzzer fail to come on frequently.
    This means that due to relying on ignition-off mode,
    I am getting more and more likely to get caught out...
    
    J.R.
315.28MARVIN::RUSLINGHastings Upper LayersThu Dec 06 1990 20:486
	I always look at my car as I leave it, if the lights are still on, I
	notice it.  Additionally, I switch *all* switches to off after I 
	turn off the ignition.  I must admit that I hate cars that buzz me...

	Dave
315.29KERNEL::SHELLEYRThu Dec 06 1990 20:555
    re; .26
    
    It would be a bit narrow minded to choose a car based only on whether
    it has a warning buzzer.
    
315.30OVAL::SAXBYMTeenage Mutant Ninja TeutonsThu Dec 06 1990 21:016
    Re .28
    
    Yes, but if you owned a Sierra would you want to look at it every time
    you got out? :^)
    
    Mark
315.31But that's one of my criteria (heavy anti-Ford bias)CRATE::RUTTERRutter the NutterThu Dec 06 1990 21:052
    It would be a bit narrow minded to choose a car based only on whether
    it is, or is not, a Ford !
315.32Death Wish?PLAYER::KENNEDY_CFri Dec 07 1990 10:176
    
    I think this is probably the most stupid thing I've heard for a long
    time .....
    
    You assume that you will be capable of unlocking the door in the event
    of an accident????
315.33Could be riskyNSDC::SIMPSONTwo faced commitFri Dec 07 1990 10:5614
I remember someone coming off the road on a Swiss pass. They had locked the
doors from the inside, and became unconscious in the accident. The passers-by
could not get them out - they even threw rocks at the back windows - but they
just bounced off. It took the rescue services to sort it out. I don't think
that I'd want to risk it personally.

Cheers

Steve

P.S. The car was a


VOLVO.
315.34Warning buzzers a godsendYUPPY::RAVENFri Dec 07 1990 13:3912
    I never lock my doors in case of being involved in an accident .
    
    However when I travel in built up areas late at night I always lock my
    car doors, I know someone who once stopped at a crossing and a drunk
    jumped into his car and threatened him with a knife.
    
    I have a warning buzzer and the times its saved me flat battery .
    
    
                              KR
                       
    
315.352p WorthESDV02::MUDANWhat's on the other channel ?Fri Dec 07 1990 15:2614
    
    Why don't manufacturers improve the technology behind light switches ?
    
    For example only provide a supply to the 'Main Beam' and 'Side Lights'
    IF the ignition key is inserted ? I can't see any problems with this.
    Why they could even fit this as a standard 8-} 
    
    Of course, drivers who forget to switch the lights off may be capable
    of forgetting to withdraw the key ! ;-)  
    
    FWIW, some manufacturers ( Merc 8^) already fit "warning" buzzers as
    standard and are developing a system that unlocks all car doors in a
    crash situation !
    
315.36One part of Italian Electrickery that works okCHEST::RUTTERRutter the NutterFri Dec 07 1990 15:319
315.37BHUNA::IJOHNSTONFri Dec 07 1990 15:354
    Re.36
    Fiats are the same.
    
    Ian.
315.38Uno 45 power!OVAL::SAXBYMTeenage Mutant Ninja TeutonsFri Dec 07 1990 15:446
    
    I think this is a FIAT group trick.
    
    It's pretty confusing if you don't read the handbook first! :^)
    
    Mark
315.39Just curious.BHUNA::IJOHNSTONFri Dec 07 1990 15:534
    Do Ferraris do it???
    
    Ian.
    
315.40:^)OVAL::SAXBYMTeenage Mutant Ninja TeutonsFri Dec 07 1990 15:564
    
    I'll check tonight.
    
    Mark
315.41:^)BHUNA::IJOHNSTONFri Dec 07 1990 15:593
    If not I`m cancelling my order.
    
    Ian.
315.42:-)KERNEL::HUTCHINGSNice Computers Don't Go DownFri Dec 07 1990 16:483
    re: .39
    
    Yes