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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

209.0. "SEE THEM BEFORE THEY SEE US" by DUB01::ODONNELL () Wed Jun 29 1988 13:23

    Just a quick query regarding RADAR DETECTORS is anybody using them
    & if so what makes could you recommend.My driving is both a mixture
    of dual-carriage ways & country roads.The speed limits over here
    are low i.e 55mph on BOTH carriage-ways & normal roads.Help would
    be greatly accepted.
    
                        Brendan
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209.10NEWOA::DALLISONSo easy to excite.Tue Oct 06 1992 16:096
    
    I heard yesterday that Thames Vally Police have just taken on a bunch
    of new Astra 1.4i's (standard) and totally rebuilt them with 2.7i
    engines (they couldn't get the bonnet down on 3.0i's).
    
    From the outside, they are identical to the standard ones.
209.11What another load of ...ESBS01::RUTTERRut The NutTue Oct 06 1992 17:325
209.12Large engines in AstrasBRUMMY::BRUMMY::RICHARDYour robot sounds like Pink FloydTue Oct 06 1992 17:419
I very much doubt that they would fit 2.7 engines,  they currently don't make a 2.7
engine...  Only 2.0,2.6,3.0 or 3.6!  The straight six engine just would not fit
to a transverse mount in an Astra.

The only option that I would believe is the new V6 which is being made at Ellesmere 
Port,  although I do not know what cc it is packing.

_Richard
209.13NEWOA::DALLISONSo easy to excite.Tue Oct 06 1992 18:124
    
    .11
    
    Just relaying what I heard. Don't mind me mentioning it do you ?
209.14WhyOCTAD::CSMITHTue Oct 06 1992 20:0017
    
    May be its me, but why would they want to put a large engine in a
    standard car?
    
    	if (car=police)
    	{
    		if (car<1.6)
    		{
    			speed();
    		}
    		else
    		{
    			do_not_speed();
    		}
    }
    
    
209.15ParanoiaLARVAE::LINCOLN_JTue Oct 06 1992 20:163
	Re .14.  With that logic every car will be a police car!

	-John
209.16BAHTAT::DODDFri Oct 09 1992 17:097
    This is either one of those stories that surfaces every so often and
    has not a grain of truth in it or it is a wicked waste of money.
    
    The police up here use Astra GSis. What would be gained by the TVP
    hare-brained scheme?
    
    Andrew
209.17Don't believe all you hearJANUS::BARKERJeremy Barker - NAC Euro Eng - Reading UKSun Oct 11 1992 00:086
I have known at least two police officers who would liberally spread such
stories simply to put the frightners on the more irresponsible drivers.

If you believe everything you hear, then I know of .....

jb
209.18MARVIN::RUSLINGDave Rusling REO2 G/E9 830-4380Mon Oct 12 1992 13:025
	I know of one ex-officer who used to tell the real story
	about some of these "specials", they do exist.

	Dave
209.19VR6 competitor?NEWOA::SAXBYMean and Brooklands Green!Mon Oct 12 1992 13:477
    
    The idea of a 2.7 litre V6 Astra isn't that odd (although at first my
    thought was much as John expressed). After all there is a new V6 coming
    from GM AND VW have a V6 Golf. Maybe there's more to this than meets
    the eye?
    
    Mark
209.20MILE::JENKINSSuitably refreshedTue Oct 13 1992 17:023
    
    The GM V6 - to be found first in the facelifted Cavalier will be a 
    2.5l lump.  
209.21FACT not Fiction!!!JUNO::JUPPThu Oct 15 1992 19:0817
    What follows is FACT, I was there!!
    
    I was visiting my friends.  He lived next door to the Police station in
    Crowthorne.  We had been doing some work on his motorcycle on the drive
    which overlooks the police car park.
    
    The Police were having difficulty in starting an Escort MKII van.  My
    friend and I helped the Police to try and bump start the van. This
    failed and we pushed the van back into the car park.
    
    The Police then opened the bonnet, it had been concealing a Lotus Twin
    Cam engine.  The van had a badge on the rear denoting that it was a
    1.1L , and it also had the standard 155 tyres.
    
    The Police DO have modified cars.
    
    Cheers Ian...
209.22VANGA::KERRELLDave Kerrell @REO 830-2279Thu Oct 15 1992 19:304
Now Ian's let the cat out of the bag, I can confirm that this is not an
isolated case.

Dave.
209.23KERNEL::SHELLEYRThu Oct 15 1992 19:347
    Surely theres more to increasing the performance of a car than whacking
    a big lump under the bonnet.
    
    Uprated suspension and most important - what about the brakes ?
    
    Roy
    
209.24UPROAR::EVANSGGwyn Evans @ IME - Open DECtrade -&gt; DTN 769-8108Thu Oct 15 1992 20:013
    Many forces have 'low-profile' cars provided by the manufacturers
    (Ford, etc) as the forces have such high annual mileages and thus can
    provide high-mileage testing for new models/engines.
209.25ESBS01::RUTTERRut The NutThu Oct 15 1992 20:0117
    So, the Police use vehicles which would be classified as dangerous
    if put together by a private individual and subsequently checked
    over by an automotive engineer ?
    
    If they have still got 'standard' 155 section tyres, I don't suppose
    that there is any point in uprating brakes or suspension as the tyres
    would not be able to cope.
    
    Question on the engine :
    
    	Was it a recent type of Lotus (2.0 or 2.2 litre ?) engine
    	or was it the old Cortina-type of lesser capacity (+ reliability) ?
    
    Although I can see why they may wish to have uprated engines in their
    vehicles I cannot see the point in this particular 'Q-car' (or Q-van)...
    
    J.R.
209.26NSDC::SIMPSONFile under 'Common Knowledge'Thu Oct 15 1992 20:079
When I was looking for a car about 5 years ago, I went to an accident repair
insurance write-off specialist (I'm a cheapskate, who likes to buy his car
'appliances' as cheaply as possible). On his jig he had a written-off
ex-Police Escort Mk II (early '80s model) which he offered to sell me. 

The major problem for me was the insurance - a turbo Janspeed engine wasn't
going to be cheap to keep on the road!

Steve
209.27AEOEN1::MATTHEWSM&amp;M Enterprises, the CATCH 22Thu Oct 15 1992 20:362
Shame they don't invest the same amout of time and trouble catching
criminals ... there just a buch of boy racers like the rest of us :-)