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Conference 7.286::home_work

Title:Home_work
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Created:Tue Nov 05 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
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Number of topics:2100
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352.0. "Wall - attaching to" by FSLENG::CAMUSO (localtime(time(t))->tm_wday >= 5 ?) Wed Jun 08 1988 11:33

   
    Just had new bathroom fixtures installed ... tile floors, tile
    walls, oak cabs, etc.  
    
    I'd like to hang a nice big mirror on our bathroom wall over the
    new vanity.  Question is, how do you hang a mirror on a tiled
    wall without any of the support mechanism showing?  I've seen 
    this in a few new houses.
    
    Thanks for any input,
    			 - Tony -
    
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352.1Easy To Do With a FrameSALEM::PAGLIARULOWed Jun 08 1988 11:489
    I just finished hanging a 35"X25" mirror in my bathroom.  Don't
    know if it's an option but I used a router and a keyhole bit to
    make slots in the back of the frame.  The mirror was then hung from
    screws put into studs.  It sits flat and there is no hardware showing. 
    
    	For a mirror without a frame could you use adhesive to attach
    the miiror to the tile?
    
    George
352.3Moved from old note 3585REPAIR::HOLDERPiste_ItalianoTue Nov 14 1989 11:5919
352.4Use toggle bolts to attach the bracketsHYDRA::CARLSONDave CarlsonTue Nov 14 1989 13:523
    re.0 You should try and use toggle bolts instead of the plugs.
    
    	Dave
352.5521, 1261OASS::RAMSEY_BDon't become a statisticTue Nov 14 1989 15:4220
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352.6Moved from old note 4311SNAX::HURWITZWed Jul 17 1991 21:3662
    I have the following presumably easyly solved mechanical problem that I
    need advice on.  The picture below is of a leg-lift machine which I
    designed that I wish to install in my home gym in my basement.
          (FYI there are no moving parts on it, just myself)
    It is made of 2 2x8 arm rests with metal-conduit grip-handles resting
    on 2 2x4 45degree (?) angle supports.  The problem I have is how to attach
    the 2x8's to the wall.  The 2x4 supports will rest on a 2x4 attached to
    the wall studs (2x4 f24" o.c. walls) with lag bolts.  This will take
    care of the "downward" support from my own weight when using it.
    
    But what would be the best method of fastening it to the wall?
    Should I just get some beefy angle irons and throw in 6 lag bolts to
    the wall and another 6 in the arm rest on each side?  I want to stay
    away from anything complicated here.  Just want to keep it simple.
    (Which it probably is anyway.)  I just don't know if an angle iron both
    above and below where the rest meets the wall will hold my 180lb frame
    with my legs swinging up and down, for an extensive amount of time.
    
    (fyi I may very well in the future use foot weights and [read
    hopefully] and may very well gain to my goal of 200+ lbs so I'd like
    this thing to be able to handle about 250lbs.)
    
    Also I will want to attach handles horizonally out at each arm rest to do
    parallel dips.  So the "outward" force shown below could be quite
    substantial.
    
    Thanks, and enjoy the character graphics that follow.......
    Steve
                                         |  |
 center basement wall (2x4 24" o.c.) --->|  |
                                         |  |        |<------ 24" -------->|
                                         |  |
           handle --> ||   Outward Force |  |        ||                   ||
                      ||   <<<<-----<<<< |  |        ||                   ||
padded arm rest -->  --------------------|  |      ------               ------
                     --------------------|  |      ------               ------
                      \ \              / |  |       |  |                 |  |
                       \ \            /  |  |       |  |                 |  |
                        \ \          /   |  |       |  |                 |  |
            support -->  \ \   needs to  |  |       |  |                 |  |
                          \ \  attach    |  |       |  |                 |  |
                           \ \ here and  |  |       |  |                 |  |
                            \ \ right    |  |       |  |                 |  |
                             \ \  above  |  |       |  |                 |  |
                              \ \        |  |       |  |                 |  |
     SIDE  VIEW                \ \       |  |       |  |   FRONT  VIEW   |  |
                                \ \      |  |       |  |                 |  |
                                 \ \     |  |       |  |                 |  |
                                  \ \    |  |       |  |                 |  |
                                   \ \   |  |       |  |                 |  |
                                    \ \  |  |       |  |                 |  |
                                     \ \ |  |       |  |                 |  |
                                      \ \|  |       |  |                 |  |
                                       \ |  |       |  |                 |  |
                                        \|  |       |  |                 |  |
                                        _|  |       |__|_________________|__|
                  block support -->    |_|  |       |_______________________|
                                         |  |         ^                   ^
                                         |  |         |  lagged to wall   |
                                         |  |
                                         |  |
                                         |  |
352.7Here's a static analysisNATASH::MARCHETTIIn Search of the Lost BoardThu Jul 18 1991 11:1816
    I did some rough calculations assuming a 200 lb load and the angle
    between the arm rest and the support being 60 degrees.  This results
    in loads of about 70 lbs in a vertical direction and about 80 lbs in a
    horizontal direction where the 2x8's meet the wall.  Since you have
    two, it's 40 lbs each.
    
    The above is a static analysis; when exercising there will be some
    dynamic loading, but your angle iron and lag bolts approach should work
    fine.  The shelves in my garage are probably loaded more heavily.
    
    You probably don't need 6" lags.  The swing bearings on my kids' 
    swing set are attached with 5/16" x 3" lags and they've held up for
    over four years.  The dynamic load from a swing is substantial,
    especially with occasional use by certain 39 year old kids. 8-) 
    
    Bob
352.8that'll do it, just was making sureSNAX::HURWITZFri Jul 19 1991 03:2113
    Thank you much Bob.  I never took that stuff in school.
    
    What I meant with the lag bolts was 3 lag bolts in the wall and 3 in 
    the arm rest on each side.  A 6" lag bolt would be 3" too many into my
    work bench's peg board on the other side of the wall ;-)
    
    I'll go with a couple beefy angle irons and 3" lag bolts and if I ever
    feel it's ripping off the wall I'll jump off :-)
    
    (p.s. Thanks for the note title change.  Couldn't have titled this one
    any better myself.)
    
    Steve........................with the soon to be washboard stomach.....