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Conference 7.286::home_work

Title:Home_work
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Created:Tue Nov 05 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2100
Total number of notes:78741

28.0. "Attic floor springy" by SAGE::DERAMO () Fri Mar 18 1988 15:39

    In the next year or two, I'd like to finish off part of the attic 
    in my circa 1900 colonial.  
                              
    One of my concerns is the fact that the floor is supported by 2x8
    joists spaced 24 o.c. running a 13 foot span, from the center of 
    the attic (in line with the roof peak) out to the edge of the attic
    (where they meet the roof rafters, also 2x8).  My concern is that
    the floor is not sturdy enough -- when I stand at the center of
    the 13 foot span, and jump lightly, I can feel definite movement.
                              
    I'm considering ideas for strengthening the floor.  Here's my 
    proposed solution:        
                              
    Since I plan to build a kneewall when I finish the attic, I thought
     it would be good to use the kneewallstuds to securely tie the floor
    joists to the attic rafters, and thus gain for my floor the added
    strength of the roof rafters.  The kneewall would be approximately
     5 feet fromthe edge of the attic, and thus somewhat close to the
    center of the 13 foot unsupported span of floor joist.  I would
    probably use lag bolts to secure the kneewall studs to the rafters
    and joists.                                              
                                                             
    My question to you all: is this an appropriate solution to my problem?
    Can I expect it to significantly improve the sturdiness of the floor?
    Is there potential for overstressing the roof structure? 
    Is there a better way?    
                              
    Thanks,                   
    Joe                       
                                                           
                              
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28.1A concave bow roof?CSMADM::MARCHETTIFri Mar 18 1988 16:216
    You ought to check with your local building inspector.  I am adding
    a level to my ranch, and they require sistering 2x10s to the existing
    2x6 joists.  Although you will be supporting the new floor close
    to the center of the span, you will be pulling on the roof rafters
    nearly in the middle of THEIR span; the worst possible place.  The
    roof is designed to support shingles and snow, not a floor and furniture.
28.2NETMAN::SEGERthis space intentionally left blankSun Mar 20 1988 13:4918
re:-1

I'm afraid I have to disagree...  It is a VERY common practice to use a roof
to support a floor - though I'm not sure this necessarily applies to living
spaces.  The weight of a floor is probably a lot less than a roof heavily laden
with wet snow.

For example, the ceiling of my 24X24 garage has no supporting columns!  All the
floor joists are suspended from the ceiling and it's VERY solid when waling up
there.  I've also seen some new houses with attic spaces this suppored.  So, if
one had a 13' 2X8 suspended at the 5' mark, that would result in only an 8' span
which sounds like it should be strong.  However, if you want to be official, you
may want to check with the building inspector.

As far as using lag bolts, I wouldn't bother.  I'd suspect 16d nails would be as
least as strong, a lot cheaper and certainly quicker to install.

-mark