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    New stuff for Knots in season 13:
    
    
    New co-executive producer-John Romano-who wrote and produced Cop Rock
    last season.
    
    Joe Hardy, executive producer of General Hospital before Gloria Monty
    returned, is now Knots' supervision producer.
    
    Here's what's in store for our friends in the cul-de-sac:
    
    A major cast member will die early in the season.
    
    Ann will get her life back together after hooking up with a
    photographer (Stuart Pankin)
    
    Val and Gary will be happy for the time being at least, and Val will
    help a new (and illiterate) friend.
    
    The recession will affect several characters.  One family will be
    especially hard hit.
    
    Greg will face many corporate challenges as well as personal hurdles. 
    Memories of his late wife will influence.
    
    Paige will have a new love interest (newcomer Bruce Greenwood, I think
    he was on St. Elsewhere)
    
    Karen and Mac will concentrate more on their lives and their problems,
    instead of those of others.
    
    Cheryl

    
    
    
    
    is there any scoop yet on the so called cliff hangers from last season?
    
    
    let's see....was it Jason in the car and is he dead?
    
    where is the architect(sp?) and the video of he and Linda doing the
    belly buttom bop?
    
    Claudia's son (what is his name?) was he caught, is he dead and will
    the daughter find out that mommie dearest set him up?
    
    usually the Enquirer comes out with predictions for the fall shows but
    have seen nothing on them yet....
    
    when does the first episode of Knots air?????
    
    
    peg 
    5

    
    
    	Well' here's *one* inside scoop!
    
    	Printed without permission...  From the "Hairstyle Guide"
    
    	Knots News:
    	
    	Watch for some steamy developements on Knots Landing this season!
    	The new man on the scene, Brian, is really going to play off the
    	rivalry between Linda and Paige," Lar (Linda) revealed.  "The two
    	of us are going to battle it out over him, I think.  Linda has 
    	moved into the ranch, so her involvement with Greg will continue as 
    	far as I know, and Brian will probably cause some rifts there too."
    	Lar Park Lincoln (Linda) is revelling in Linda's recent evolution. 
    	"Her new aggressiveness really helps," she said.  "Linda's always
    	been a go-getter, but I'd say she's using more of her...Female
    	attributes now...  Despite the fact that she's had several affairs,
    	there's still a dignity about her.  She's not running around like
    	an eighteen-year-old.  I Like that.  I like that she's strong..."
    
    
    	Well there it is...  *I* think this guy Brian will magically appear
    	after a few shows and Paige will no longer be under suspicion for
    	Brian's disappearanc, and that Jason did die and lets see what else... 
    	Hum... I have to think a bit more about the rest of the group...
    
    
    	Well' that's all I have for now, any body else see or read any
    	scoops???
    
    	Zina

Does anyone know when Knots is coming coming back on?

Kirsten

    
    
    	Knots is returning September 12th!!!!!!!!!! :-) :-) :-)

    
    WOW, September 12th!!!  That's almost around the corner!!!  Can't wait!
    
    I've been racking my brain trying to think of WHO the 'major character'
    is that's supposed to die.  I want to say Michael, but I don't exactly
    think of him a 'major character'...perhaps the writers do though.  After
    reading the previous note/upcoming news, it doesn't appear to be what
    we'd all classify as a 'major character' (Val, Gary, Greg, Karen, Mac,
    Paige, Anne.....Even Claudia).   Jason is definitely not a 'major
    character', so I guess it would have to be Michael.......huh?  Did any
    of this make sense to you....sound like I was rambling...;-).
    
    Anyway, the only thing I like about the summer coming to an end is the
    fact that Knots comes back on.........
    
    
    

    just a thought....last night as I was watching Channel 7, they showed
    Val, Karen, Gary and Paige....if you look on Paige's left hand, there
    is a rather large diamond on her ring finger.....now my question
    is...Is the ring from her real life squueze (Harry Hamlin) or is it a
    bit of foreshadowing for the show???? Hhhhmmmmmmm
    
    peg

    Well, SPW announced that TNT will be re-running Knots and Dallas
    starting on Monday, Sept 16.  They will be on weekdays with Knots from
    10-11 AM and Dallas on from 11-12 Noon EST.  I'll be setting my VCR!!!
    
    Cheryl

    me, too.....

    \
    In next weeks TV Guide there is an arcticle on Knot's that says Linda
    will be killed off in the third episode of this years show.  I couldn't
    be happier!
    
    KAREN

    any specualtions on how linda dies???? i dunno if they will have her
    murdered, the show has already had enough of those with Peter/Abby/and
    the daughter.....and of course Jill/Gary/Val
    
    maybe she will so distraught that she was caught boinking the boss,
    boinking the builder and probably trying to boink Tom that she will
    just boink herself into oblivion
    
    peg

    
    
    	OH my god Karen!!!!  My little "Hair Style" guide must be wrong!  I'm
    	going to have to run out today and get that TV guide!!!  I would
    	be psyched too if they got rid of that slut, she drives me *crazy*,
    	she must be the major character they are going to kill off??  What
    	a scoop Karen, leave it to you!!!!:-) :-)
    
    	Zina

    
    
    	According to this week's STAR magazine...
    
    	Jason doesn't die but is in the hospital.  What happened is
    	that the other guys in the car kidnapped him and stabbed
    	someone else (thus the way they were driving).  One of the 
    	other guys dies in the hospital and Karen may be charged
    	with manslaughter.
    
    	Claudia is going to be made out as the most wicked woman KL
    	has seen. (topping Abby is gonna be a good trick)
    
    	Brian (?) returns just as Linda is getting really worried
    	about being implicated in his disappearance.
    
    	Anne and an old friend (to be played but Stuart Pankin) come
    	up with a get-rich-quick scam.
    
    	I think that's it.  Didn't say anything about Linda dying
    	(but that would be great...she makes me ill)
    

    I'll have to re-read the TV guide article but it said her death would
    not be what we expect!  I watch L.A. Law during the summer and last
    night was Rosalind Shays plummet to death in the elevator shaft.  I,
    for one would love to see Linda die of some horribly disfiguring
    disease that swells up her tongue and chokes her to death before she
    can make one more catty remark!
    
    Karen

    I know this has nothing to do with KL, but I caught the statement about
    LA Law. I was going to watch it last night but I got caught up on a
    phone call and didn't pay any attention to it at all... boo hoo I did
    see the <<open>> coffin at the end when (what's his name) was putting
    some flowers on the casket and saying good-bye. She looked perfectly
    normal for someone who threw themselves down an elevator shaft?/? Not
    messed up or anything.... I'm confused, if no one minds can we use this
    KL to reply to my observation? If not I apologize for taking up space!
    
    Beccy
    
    

    I think that Rosiland just fell into the shaft. She thought that the
    elevator was there and just stepped off. I think that it was mentioned
    that she got caught in the cables. She must have missed hitting her
    face. I had the same thought about her looking normal.
    
    Linda is a total B**tch, every show need ones. But I guess Claudia by
    the souands of it, will be the ONE. She was so nice as Ellen an AMC,
    but she is doing a great job on K.L.. I can't wait until Thursday....
    
    
    
    Cathy
    

    Just a thought.....IF Karen gets convicted of manslaughter and IF Mac
    does get disbarred and has no income, WILL Greg sue for custody of Meg?
    
    hhmmm.....Claudia may be a B*itch, but no one can replace Abby! She was
    the best....

    >> hhmmm.....Claudia may be a B*itch, but no one can replace Abby!  She
    >> was the best....
    
    I agree, Abby was someone you loved to hate.  Claudia isn't even
    likable, but she plays the B*tch to perfection

    
    Heard on the radio this am (announcer) "Can Karen handle what she has 
    done to her newly adopted son".  Then they had Karen saying....something 
    like "but I put him there".
    
    The add was really...dull....hope the show isn't.
    
    el
    
    

    I think that reference to Karen was about Jason, he is suppose to be in
    a coma from the accident.....if you go back a few notes, someone wrote
    in what one of the trash magazines had to say.....
    
    I'm hoping for a good season, maybe they can build a plot around Linda,
    since no one really seems to like her...except Sumner that is....So
    once Linda goes away, think Paige will go back with Greg or with Tom or
    will she hook up with someone new!!!! 
    
    speaking of Paige, she and Harry Hamlin were married last week in
    Ca...wonder if there will be a future baby story???? hhmmmmmm
    
    
    peg

Just in case you haven't heard there was an article in TV Guide with Linda's
(Lar Par Lincoln) picture.  Guess what... she is going to be axed off the show
on the third episode.  Seems the writers couldn't handle so many blondes..

She said that the audience won't believe the way that they kill her off.

Paige is getting a new love interest and Steve is going to turn up dead
from his gunshot wound, while Jadon is in a coma....

Can't wait to see tonight's show...

Nancy

Oops that was supposed to be Jason not Jadon..

nancy

    well i hope the show is living up to its standards.  here in
    minneapolis there is a baseball game on instead of KL!  but it will be
    on saturday night. so, better late than never!
    
    	ann

    I for one thought that last's night's season's premeire was boring.
    But, boy did Paige's hair get long.  It looked great.  Also, the new
    love interest for Paige (I forget his name) in my opinion leaves a 
    lot to be desired.  WHY DIDN'T THEY SHOW TOM???? Is he going to be on
    this season, or was that wrapped up last night when Paige told Linda
    she has no idea where Brian is and no feeling left for Tom.
    Looks like Brian is going to turn out to be a "bad boy", from the
    scenes of linda getting in his car and the look on his/her face as they
    drive off.  I bet he kills her off.
    
    So, what did everyone else think?
    
    OH YA....
    
    
    VAL'S HAIR IS ALL ONE LENGHT!  IT ACTUALLY ALMOST LOOKED GOOD.
    I can't believe I said that.

    I read someplace (can't remember where) how Linda dies.
    
    Read on if you want to know.
    
    As we could see from the end of last nights episode Brian is back. 
    Apparently he disappeared because he is divorcing his wife and want
    her to think he is dead.  He wants Linda to approach his wife and
    somehow get money from her.  I don't remember how.  Anyway she
    tells the wife, in exchange for money, that Brian is very much alive.
    Brian finds out he was double crossed.  Linda takes the money Brian's
    wife gives her and buy a brooch for her mother.  Of course she calls
    her mother to see if she got it and the mother tells her she is
    returning it because it isn't nice enough for her.  We are supposed to
    feel badly for Linda as she gets this phone call.  I believe she calls
    her mother one more time, gets her machine , tells her she loves her.
    She then is in a parking lot, she drops her keys, some stranger
    approaches her and we think this is it.  But the stranger just asks her
    for help or something.  Then she is killed by.......
    
    Brian because she double crossed him.  Apparently it is a very violent
    death and she is left in a pool of blood.
    
    Steph

    I will make only a few comments about last nights episode.
    
    It was OK but for a session opener it was not all that exciting.
    
    I disagree about .254, I thought Paige looked real cheap 
    with that short black dress. By the way, is she pregnant or does
    she just look bad in her clothes?  I thought her long hair was merely
    to be a distraction from that filled-out body of hers.
    
    I usually find something really amusing about each episode.  But I
    have to think really hard to remember what I found amusing about last
    night.  
    
    What did everyone think about last night?
    
    Until nx. week.
    
    

    Paige's new interest is Pierce and I agree with the noter that said he
    had alot to be desired.
    
    What does everyone think of the story with Gary and the guy working on
    the project with the ocean?  That guy is better looking than Pierce.
    
    I thought the show was kind of dull.  I was happy that Jason lived -
    even though his hair will be shorter this year.
    
    BK
    

    
    I thought last night opener was little boring too!!  I can't figure out
    if Paige is pregnant...did she have her real life baby over the summer? 
    I didn't hear anything about it.  I also don't like her longer hair.
    
    I'll be glad to see Linda axed!!  I never liked her character!!
    
    Hope to next few episodes get a little more exciting!!
    
                                              

    
    I agree about Paige's hair looking terrible, the length and bang's were
    to long and the color was pure YELLOW.
    
    I missed next week's previews could someone PLEASE enter them.
    
    Thank's in advance 
    Ellen

    
    I agree last night's show wasn't the best but I'll still be watching
    next week.
    
    First of all I was bumming that they killed Steve, I would have
    preferred Jason.  I like Jason but I think Steve could have given the
    show more storylines.  
    
    But then again I'm glad Jason lived because Karen would have driven me
    crazy with "I put him there it's my fault" talk.  Now she'll be
    wrestling with "killing" the other kid.  
    
    I also said yeah!, Val's hair is all one length!!!  
    
    So, if Linda gets killed then Greg is "free" again.  That means he'll
    be available to mess with Paige again and ruin things with her new love
    interest.  (Although, even if Linda's around I don't think it'll matter
    to Greg). ;-)))
    
    Just a few...

    This is next's weeks previews as I can remember them....
    
    Karen, Mac and Frank are sitting in a lawyer's (D.A.'s office?) and
    they are talking about pressing manslaughter chargers against Karen...
    
    Pierce makes a comment to Paige I think that he loves her, she replies
    to him that he is moving to fast, to which he replies we all have to
    live a bit in the fast lane or something like that
    
    Gary is talking to the college prof about going to the Sumner group for
    financing regarding this project
    
    I think that is it.....
    
    I was surprised to see that they killed off Steve, I was hoping they
    would keep him around for awhile and torture the mother but now it
    looks like Katie is totally against her mother and possibly against
    Uncle Greg for his siding with Claudia.
    
    I think that Karen is going to be torn apart...people are going to make
    her out to be a "hero" for standing up against a gang and others are
    going to call her a vigalante for taking matters into her own hands!
    just my opinion though!
    
    I was a bit let down last night but somehow I think that Anne should
    prove rather interesting this year...down graded to killing
    cockroaches is just not her style!
    
    peg 

    I fell asleep (EXCITING SHOW!!!) so I'm confused as to what boy died??
    I thought Jason was the only one seriously hurt?????
    
    Le Ann

    I don't know if it was the driver or the other kid in the front seat of
    the car but he made it through the accident and was fine - but then
    something killed him suddenly.
    
    BK
    

    Seems to me the doctor said something about how the other boy
    must have hit the steering wheel with his chest.  They couldn't
    find anything wrong with him at first but he may have had internal
    bleeding in the chest area that caused his death.
    
    Jan

    
    
    	Well I was bummin about the show.  It was OK but they have had
    	*much* better shows before, thats for sure!  I couldn't believe
    	all the damn comercials too!!!!!!  I was ready to turn the TV
    	off just because of that!
    
    	RE: Linda, I'm glad they are killing her off I can't take her
    	for one more minute!  Val looked good for once, looks like the
    	writers will have them two happy for awhile.  Claudia is really
    	getting to me, I wish someone besides Katie finds out what a
    	terrible person she really is.
    
    	Well' until next Thursday...  
                                                

    The only reason I can think of for this show not doing much for us
    last week is because they left so many loose ends at the end of last
    season and they were trying to show us what happened on all of them
    in the same show.  I suppose this would have worked if they'd had
    2 hours and some juicier material.  In spite of the lack of excitement,
    I'm glad KL is back.
    
    Jan

    This is my first time replying in KL so here goes....
    
    Paige's hair is to long and to yellow.  I liked it when it was shoulder
    length and more natural in color.
    
    I kinda liked the fights between Paige and Linda.  Granted I hated
    Linda's character but the fights were good.
    
    The show was boring.  I hope they don't drag out Karen's plot with "I
    killed a boy" all season.  She is better than that.
    
    I did like Steve!!  Sorry to see him go!!   Val looks great!!!!  But
    didn't it seem kinda funny how slow she walked into the kitchen to say
    goodbye to Gary.  I just got the feeling something was wrong.  Could be
    my imgaination.
    
    Even though the show was not that exicting - I am glad it is back!!
    
    Tricia

    Linda KILLED...  GREAT news to start off the season with.  This
    little TRAMP won't be missed by me!
    
    BTW, Claudia could NEVER take the place of Abby...  Abby has
    maniplating class and Claudia KILLED HER OWN SON!!!!  This woman is
    disgusting.
    
    Strawberry

Did anyone think Greg's reaction about his brother's death and his actions     
towards his sister were a little strange.  He was so calm, too calm.            
When he asked his sister if she loved him etc,. and then kissed her....
all I could think of was ...The Kiss of Death... which the wicked women
totally deserves.

They make it look as if she'll get away with it because they have both 
the police and Greg acting like they believe her every word.  That's too easy,
Greg is not that easy.  I think he has other ideas for his her, at least
I hope so.

One other note...of course it has to be about little Miss Linda, she was
really upset, almost in a panic, because Page was no longer under 
investigation (did you catch Paige's lines when Linda was questioning her
about Tom...all I could think of was High school).  Linda looked as if she 
was going to die, everything was going wrong...but I could not figure 
out what... unless she was actually trying to set up Paige with the architect's 
disappearance.  I don't remember Linda doing anything that would directly 
implicate Paige during the final show.                

    el

    Ref note 265.  I recorded Knots Landing, at every commercial I paused.
    Knots was actually 42 minutes with 18 minutes of commericals. I think
    thats a lot of commericals for a 1 hour show.

    re:- 269
    
    the only thing that Linda the slut did to implicate Paige was to make
    sure that the tape that Brian started to record was left in the back
    seat of his rental.......
    
    as much as I dislike Linda, you gotta admit she must be a heck of an
    actress to upset the viewers....who are they going to have as the
    B*TCH? certainly not claudia....she's terrible...i liked her better as
    Elen on All My Kids.....maybe Anne willrebound and rear her ugly head!
    
    come on Knots, pick up will ya and give us a great storyline!!!! looks
    right now they will be pushing the Karen "I chase kids into oncoming
    trucks" Mackensie story line......wonder if Tom will have anything to
    do with the investigation into Linda's upcoming death
    
    and the question of the day is..........................
    
    
			WHERE'S MORT???????????
    

Good question, where is Mort???  

I have to agree with the noter regarding Greg.  I think he definately thinks
Claudia had something to do with Steve's death.  He's not that stupid, unlike
Gary who I'm sure believes Claudia.  

Hopefully this weeks show will be a little more interesting.  

kc

    
    I caught a little of the original Dallas and Knots Landing this morning
    on TNT...I never used to watch KL or Dallas for that fact,  but it's 
    interesting to see the characters so young...I only recognize a few of 
    them (Karen and Val and Gary)...real strange...
    
    

    well the plot is set for Linda to bite the big one....she is one woman
    who deserves what is coming to her. Brain is sick enough to bump her
    off! wonder if it will be next week or not....and what plot will they
    run around it??
    
    how can Greg be taking Claudia's side? he seems so mellow now, I liked
    him better when he was a dirty fighter...this deal though with the prof
    instead of going though Gary,he is going to talk to him on his ow.
    Guess that is how the business world really works...bottom
    line...bucks!
    
    and this thing with Paige, I don't trust what's his name...what is his
    name??? it just seems to shady, 
    
    and now Anne is posing nude! you gotta love it....at a way Anne!!!! she
    wouldn't have made a very good PI....
    
    someone shoot Claudia....I kept thinking that the ghost of Steve would
    show up while Katy was using his camera. that in one of the shots he
    would appear, but I suppose that they have already done that ghost
    routine haven't they.....
    
    pretty nervy of Karen to go to the funeral of that kid! granted she
    sholdn't have chased them,but hasn't everyone at some point in their
    life been so irate at something that you don't really realize what you
    are doing????
    
    just my thoughts..............peg
    

    I agree about Karen, as soon as I saw her there. I thought how dumb
    can she be. The family is going to go nuts. I don't think Pierce is
    the type of guy that Paige would fall so ga-ga over. He seems pretty
    boring. She would be better with the guy that Gary met. I think that
    waitress that Val met will not be able to read, that is why she had
    that reaction when Val said she would bring the book to her. 
    
    Cathy
    

    I was surprise last night because I thought it would be the season
    premire, it seems I missed last weeks show.  So please anyone who would
    be kind enough to tell what happen I would appreciate it very much.
    
    I hate the guy they have Paige with, he is very unattractive and when
    he kisses her I just about get sick.  The kisses are so noisey and
    slimy looking.  I turned the channel when they were in bed kissing
    because I saw saliva coming from his mouth..I kept thinking poor Paige
    to have to act in this part with this actor would be difficult...
    I perfered her with Tom, those two could make the screen sizzle...
    
    I thought last night show a little boring!!!
    
    Linda did just what you would expect her to do..
    
    

    I missed last nights show, does anyone have an update?
    
    Steph

    
    Steph,
    
    Wish I had the time to put an update in, but unfortunately I don't.
    IMO, you didn't miss much!  I certainly hope this isn't an indication
    of what the future will be like for KL!  In all years I've been 
    watching this is definitely the worse I've ever seen it!!!
    
    Alot of the show centered around Paige and her new beau Peirce (I think
    that's his name).  Just basically small talk, getting to know each
    other.
    
    Katie moved out on her own...she hates her mother for what she did
    to Steven.  The best part of the show was the very end.  Linda paid 
    a visit to Brian's wife.  Hopefully we'll find out why next week.
    
    Oh yeah, then there was the piece on Ann.  Didn't quite catch this
    but she is doing some work with Benny which I believe involves
    blackmailing.  She was pretending to be a maid of some sort in a
    hotel where she was to take pictures of folks in bed....did the
    camera break or something???  (Sorry, I really was quite bored
    by this point so I ironed instead).  
    
    Hopefully someone else can give a full update.
    
    Paula
    
    p.s.  I think I remember reading somewhere that there was a new
          writer or producer for Knots.  It's not by any chance
          Gloria Monty is it :-)

    let's see......we'll start with brian and linda. Brian explains to
    linda that after she left with Sumner, a PI that had been hired by his
    wife shows up and takes him away at gun point. Brian kills the PI and
    burys him in the desert somewhere. He tells linda to go to a gym that
    he belongs to in SF and go get a gym bag that contains 7 coins, all
    worth $40,000 each. if she does this, then brian will give her one. If
    she double crosses him, he will mail the tape they made to Sumner.
    Linda gets the bag, brings it to him, she gets the tape and leaves.
    Later we see Linda at Brian's wifes door telling her that she knows
    where he is....
    
    Karen is mtg with Frank about the accident and Mac is trying to coach
    karen as what to say. Mac starts off about saying that he spent 3
    months nt practicing law becuz he did whathe thought was right. If
    karen has to stretch it a bit, then fine. They are at the DA's office
    answering questions about the accident. Mac grabs Karen and storms out
    becuz the DA wants to cop a deal. Outside there are reporters askign
    Karen what it is like to be a hero and that some group has started
    collecting money for her to counter her law costs. Karen then shows up
    at the dead boys funeral and is met by a relative and told to leave
    
    Paige and Pierce are hot and heavy doing the belly button bop. ALl I
    want to know is how can they kiss each other first thing in the
    morning. I for one have been referred to as Dragon Breath!!!! She ends
    up telling him that she is falling in love with him. Ihave yet to here
    him say it back though
    
    Anne and the guy (Murray?) go under cover to get some photos of a hot
    shot executive having an affair. Anne drops the camera and exposes the
    film therefore ruining it! Later on we learn that Anne will be posing
    nude in some old people's magazine for money
    
    Gary and Mac go to Sumner with the idea of Tidal Power. Paige takes it
    to Gregg who says great idea. Tell Gary to get lost and we will contact
    him on our own. 
    
    Katy and Claudia continue to fight, Katy moves out...Claudia sulcks to
    Gregg who tells her that she has someone keeping an eye on her....
    
    Val is in a restaurant scribbling notes for her book on a napkin. The
    waitress stops by and wants to know if she wants another. They start to
    talk and Val figures out she is from Texas cuz of her accent. Val tells
    the woman that she will drop off a book about the area in Texas, the
    woman gets a bit upset, says she has other tables to wait on and
    leaves.
    
    I think that was it......looks like Linda is ready to take the
    plunge...
    
    Still no Mort.....i don't even see his name in the beginning of the
    show anymore
    
    Anyone care to venture a guess what Pierce is up to?????? For some
    reason I don't trust him....hhmmmmmm 

    Well last night showed that Nicolette Sheridan (Paige) is definitely
    not pregnant.  The outfit she had on was so form fitting that there is
    no way she is.
    
    There has got to be something up with Pierce - he's too normal for
    Paige.
    
    Also, I was surprised with next weeks previews that it didn't show
    anything with Linda being killed - it did show Linda in bed with Greg.
    
    Hopefully the show will start picking up in pace.
    
    Til next week....
    
    bk

    re:  The update, Pierce did tell Paige he loved her and that's when she
    told him not to move too fast.  
    
    I was also waiting for Steve to come out of the closet behind Katie
    when she was taking the pictures - no such luck.
    
    bk
    

    I am not sure after reading my reply if it is understood that I would
    like an update of what happen on the season premire show...If anyone
    remembers I would really appreciate it...
    
    

    Does anybody else think that it was really weird that Tom showed up in
    the last show last season and he hasn't been seen again?  I thought he
    was making a return.  At least we would have someone good to look at.
    
    
    Virginia

    Sorry I don't remember who made the comment about the new writer for
    the show being Gloria Monty (General Hospital), but I thought you might
    like to know that KL's new writer is Joseph Hardy, the GH writer that
    Gloria Monty replaced.  Interesting huh?!
    
    Karen

    

RE:  281:  Steve

    I had the same feeling about Steve when she was holding the camera.  Your 
    comment made me think back to the funeral...funny, but (if I remember 
    correctly) the only ones there were Gregg, Katie and Claudia and we never 
    saw a casket.  I guess that's why we expect to see him.  I don't think Gregg 
    could have set this up ( to make it look like he died) one would think the 
    police wouldn't go along but didn't he say he had someone watching
    Katie....since when?).


RE:  283:  Tom

He could show up and haunt Paige when they find the dead PI.

el

    
    
    	Well' here is *my* prediction of Paige & Pierce.  After talking to
    	my sister we decided that this guy Pierce may turn into some psycho
    	and try to kill Paige.  I mean he is just to strange, he keeps
    	pressuring Paige to say, I Love You and he keeps *his* past a
    	secret from Paige.  This may be a way for them to bring Tom back
    	too to protect Paige from Pierce when he flips out.  This guy
    	Pierce is just to secretive for me...

    
    re: Pierce
    
    Maybe I didn't follow the previews...but I think Pierce is going to
    financially back the Prof. and Gary since Sumner won't.
    
    I guess we'll find out tomorrow....

    
    Caught the commercial last night re: KL....it's so obvious to us
    that the one to be killed will be Linda.  She's finally going to
    be gone-so!!!
    
    One more night to go before we find out.  I think it's Linda...do you???
    
    PAULA

    re-278? 
    I think Sumner is going to back the prof after all. last weeks previews
    showed Gregg and the prof talking in Gregg's office. I don't think that
    Sumner wanted Gary involved and that's why Gregg turned down the
    original offer.....
    
    Pierce is just too gross for me. Actually I would perfer to see Paige
    back with Gregg....they worked real well together....
    
    and where is MORT and his sidekick???? the show just isn't the same
    without him....hey, maybe Mort will kill off Linda....nah!
    
    peg

    Re: Paige and Pierce
    
    Who is Pierce, anyway?  I don't remember seeing him at all during last
    season.
    
    How about this for a scenario:
    
    	I like the idea of Pierce financing the Prof's experiment, so...
    
    	How about if Pierce offers to finance the experiment, but needs
    	approval of his partner in business, or maybe his banker.  He tells
    	Paige of his plan and asks for her help with the partner/banker.
    	She sets up the presentation, goes along with Pierce as support,
    	and finds herself face to face with.....
    
    					Harry Hamlin!
    
    
    	(After all, he's out of a job now, and with them just getting married,
    	the on-screen romance has got to be better than Pierce (yuk) and
    	Paige).  There's instant fireworks between Harry and Paige, turns
    	out they were lovers in the past (maybe when they were in New
    	York), and they pick up where they left off (probably with Harry
    	now divorced and free to be with Paige).  Pierce retaliates with
    	death threats for both of them, and we find out that he has a
    	very sordid past.  Maybe he's a convicted murder felon who 
    	escaped, had plastic surgery, changed his name, etc.  And have it
    	turn out that maybe Harry is his partner because Pierce is being
    	watched by Harry, hoping that Pierce will lead Harry to the bodies
    	he buried, or something like that.
    
    
    Just a thought.  I hope this week's show is better than last week's.  I
    nearly fell asleep.
    
    
    

    re: -1
    
    Well your plot sure would liven things up! ;-)
    
    If Pierce does back the Prof. then Paige will find herself between
    Pierce and Sumner.
    
    

    How 'bout this????? since Paige was Mac's daughter and he didn't even
    know it....what is Mac really boinked Paula a few years ago and Pierce
    is an outcome of the hot and heavies....now I know you are saying, how
    can he grow to be a young gentlmen in 2 years, but this is the soaps we
    are talking about here....not reality!!!!!
    
    Pierce has to have more of a storyline besides sleeping with
    Paige...his kisses are gross, he is not appealing to the eye (Tom where
    are..hubba hubba)....Does he have money, I vaguely remember the
    conversation he had with Paige about his past??? He's just the kinda
    guy I want around...pressuring me into telling him I love him!!!! I
    would tell him a few things but they would not be too lady like....8-)

    Re: Paige meeting up with Harry Hamlin...what a great storyline...you
    have quite an imagination!!
    
    So did Nicollete have her real life baby yet??  She's obviously not
    pregnant since we saw her in little, tiny pants last week.  I never
    heard about Harry and her having their baby...did anyone??
    

    Who is Harry Hamlin???

    Harry Hamlin is Nicolette Sheridan's husband in real-life.  He use to
    be on LA Law and he was in the movie Deceptions with her.  I remember
    him best for playing Persus in a movie that slips my mind now, I was
    about Greek Gods and was sort of a fantasy picture [Pegasus, the flying
    horse, Neptune and all the other Greek Gods, can't for the life of me
    think of the name of it]

           it must be "clash of the titans"
    

    RIGHT....thanks the old brain just wasn't kicking in the morning.  It
    was Clash of the Titans [and maybe I shouldn't admit it, but I liked
    that movie]

    
    
    	Wow!  (I'll put in a FF for those who may have not seen it ye)
    
    
    
    
    	I can't believe how they killed Linda!  That's so, gruesome,
    	for Knots.  Although I don't think she suffered enough.  I know,
    	that's cruel but I would have loved to see Brian make her squirm.
    	Like kidnap her for a while and scare the pants off of her.  
    	*Then* kill her.
    
    	I'm already sick of the Karen storyline.  The only part I liked
    	was when Mr. Morgan said he forgived her.
    
    	Pierce gives me the creeps.  Did anyone catch his line when
    	he was in Paige's office "California is the place to start
    	over" or something like that.....he *has* to be hiding 
    	something.
    
    	JJ
    

    Read below...
    
    
    Yikes...I certainly didn't expect Linda to die like that...and so
    quick!!  Looks like Greggie is going to be a suspect for a while.
    
    I agree...something is definitely up with Pierce.  I can't believe that
    Greg fired Paige.  Linda would have loved to have had her job...too bad
    she's dead!!
     

    Re.  .298
    
    It wasn't as gruesome as when the Alec Baldwin character fell on a
    pitchfork and twitched for a few moments.  That time they showed the
    tines sticking through him, as opposed to not showing the cheating
    bit** getting knifed; they left it to your imagination as to whether
    she was just stabbed, or got her throat slit.  Given her two-timing
    ways, I'd have opted for the latter.

    
    
    
    
    	Maybe since Linda is gone, Greg will hire Paige back. He will not
    have any assitant now. For everyone looking for Mort, he was on last
    night oogling Ann's nude pictures. I think that Linda got her throat
    slit by the way the camera angle was and he seemed to hold her head 
    back. Looks like Claudia' daughter (can't remember her name right now)
    and the prof. will hit it off. I to am sick of Karen, hope this goes
    away quickly. Maybe they will start Jason and ??? (the girl next door)
    storyline up again. My brain is really missing info this am.
    
    Cathy
    

    Greg certainly has been out of the spotlight so far this season.  Is
    he mellowing out?  He is starting to bore me.  
    
    I hate to say, but I was starting to feel like Linda was a main
    character in the show.  No more cat fights with Paige.  Who will
    her next enemy be?  (Female that is)
    
    P
    

    Sounds like last night was the best episode so far this season.
    Could someone please give a quick update?
    
    Thanks
    ss

    Linda goes to Brian's wife and tells her she knows where she is. Of
    course, she (linda) gets a check for $50,000 first. We then see Brian
    falling Linda around...from the wifes' apartment, to the bank, the
    jewlery store and then to the parking lot
    
    Linda, after doing the belly button bop with Gregg, tells him that Gary
    has a new partner, Pierce. The next day, Gregg fires Paige for letting
    him see the prof's prospectus (sp?)
    
    Good old Mort is drooling at the site of Anne nude in the magazine.
    Paige is totally horrifed. Mort and many of the other men are asking
    Anne for her autograph!
    
    The charges are dropped against Karen since Jason was going to testify
    on her behalf. I'm getting real sick of Mac being self-rightous...get
    off it will ya....anyways, Karen is doing her show when the guest she
    has on thanks her for what she did and the audience gives her a round
    of appalause. Karen talks back to them about what she did, saying it is
    not right to fight violence with violence. She leaves the set. Later on
    she goes to the house of the boy that died. She speaks to the father
    and wants to see the boys room. the father asks if this is the first
    time she has ever hurt anyone. He forgives her and karen leaves.
    
    Val comes to the rescue of the woman in the coffeeshop who is getting a
    ticket. The cop asks Val who she is, then tells her that his wife has
    read all her books. The cop leaves. Val confronts the woman about her
    inability to read...later on at the library,the woman comes to Val and
    asks her to teach her to read
    
    Pierce and Gary meet to dicuss business. Pierce must have some
    connections as he has found about about Gary's past and also some of
    the other professors that this one is working with. Gregg meets the
    prof at school and tries to talk him into working for him. The prof
    turns him down. 
    
    A horse comes running through the now converted stall prof office. Katy
    comes in running after it telling the prof she was sorry and that she
    would explain everything to the prof when she sees him. She doesn't
    know it is him. Later on, the prof brings carrots for the horse and
    asks her to lunch. She agrees
    
    Right at the end of the show, Linda comes home, goes over to the phone
    and calls her mother saying that she just sent a broach off to her and
    never mind the cost. She says she loves her and hangs up. Meanwhile
    Brian is coming out of the bedroom scaring the snot out of Linda. She
    tries to run but he catches her. She goes to turn on the charm saying
    that even though there isn't a camera, they can still make movies,
    or something like that. Brian is behind her, grabs her by the top of
    her hair. He then pulls out a knife and next there is blood dripping
    onto Linda's foot, he lets go and her body slumps to the floor!!!!!
    
    that's all!!!!!!!!!!
    
    peg

    
    Last nights show would have been a great season premier....


    
    I thought Linda did a great job last night as she did played out her
    different personalities...Cool and collected..collecting the money...
    ..a gleefull shopper ...picking out the pin, Wryly aware, but scared 
    stiff...when she was being followed...the happy seductress while ...
    ..boinking Greg and backstabbing Paige......then trying to elude death.
    
         I jumped right out of my seat!
    
    When Greg fired Paige I think War was waged.  Paige and Pierce could
    have fun with that one.  Pierce really seemed upset that she lost her
    job because of him and he didn't seem to mind Paige's comment that 
    she would be working for him now ...and she has the inside tract on
    Greg.  They haven't had a good business war since Abby.
    
    el
    
    
    

    
    Re: .305...
    
    I agree...last night's episode should have been the season opener!!
    
    

    
    Re. last few replies.
    
    I didn't like Linda either, but she didn't deserve to die like that.
    I felt some compasion for her when I realized that she bought the
    broach for her mother, instead of herself. Also, as someone mentioned
    earlier, it was fun watching her go at it with Paige. I bet that 
    Paige will be the prime suspect in her death. Perhaps they will 
    bring Tom back to harass her.
    
    One scene that cracked me up was the one with the cop whose wife
    had read Val's books. Reminded me of "Romancing the Stone" when
    the ugly town mob turned happy when they realized that she was
    Joan Wilder (juanita), and they had all read her books. Too funny.
    
    

    
    
    	One question about last nights show, didn't Linda move *out*
    	of her apartment last season to move in with Greg?  I just
    	thought it was strange she went there at the end when she lives 
    	with Greg now.  Please correct me if I'm wrong...
    
    	Great job though killing her off!
    
    	Zina

    Well guys I found this file and I ***LOVE*** Knots Landing.
    I am usually in the AMC file, but I will now note in this 
    one too!!!! *^) *^)
    
    I have to say that Linda sure took a cruel stab to the 
    neck or back last night.  Right before he stabs her he tells
    her this one will be the best one yet.  She didn't even
    know what got her when the blood was rushing out. YUCK!!!!
    
    I am sure that Greg will find a new love quickly, cause
    Paige is sure preoccupied with that new wierdo from her
    little trip she took.  She should have waited until after
    she was fired, she would have got to stay longer. *^)
    
    The storyline with Karen thank goodness should come to 
    an end since she got off, I hope.  Jason got a hair
    cut, unless it was suppose to look like that since he
    was in the hospital, but pppplllleeeessss!!!!  I liked
    the longer hair look on him cause he looks tooooo much
    like a goody too shoes. *^)
    
    Now Greg is going to go and invest money in that guy
    that Gary found.  Gary won't take too kindly to this
    once he finds out what greg's intentions are.
    
    Well enough babbling for me.
    
    
    Tracey
    
    
    
    

    I was kind of hoping Brian would make Linda squirm just a little
    bit longer.  It just seemed that her death came so quickly.  Don't
    get me wrong, I don't like torturing and killing people but Linda 
    was lacking in any redeeming quality and she deserved to have to
    quirm a wee bit.
    
    Jan 

    Did anyone think of this?  Since no one even knows Brian is still
    around because he is supposed to be missing, and Page got fired, then
    Linda get murdered. Maybe, they will think Page murdered Linda?
    Plus I don't believe Brian gave Linda the Tape without keeping a copy.
    I believe there will be  more to come on the video tape. 

    
    And... 
    
    Did Linda ever view the tape?  Do we know it was the tape of her and
    what about earlier tapes.
    
    el
    

    I don't think that Paige will be a suspect...afterall, there were no
    "I'll kill you for that", or something along that idea that was
    overheard by anyone. Besides, we all know that Paige was boinking
    Pierce when Linda got the BIG ONE!
    
    You know that Sumner is going to go back and try and get Paige. Besides
    his wife Laura, I don't think that Greg really loved anyone as much as
    he does Paige....
    
    Something is still not sitting right with Pierce. Just to have him show
    up, sweep Paige into bed, get her to tell all in their little question
    and answer show and now finance Mr Professor guy...things that make ya
    go hhhmmm!
    
    And about the tape, what good would it do for greg to get a copy of it
    now? I think he cared about Linda, but didn't love her! And Brian is no
    fool, he won't be hanging around long. With all that money in coins and
    now having murdered 2 people, I wouldn't want to hang around Knots too
    much longer
    
    Whatever happened to Frank's love interest at the end of last season?
    Oh gawd, I can't remember her name...she was Julie's teacher though..
    wonder if they (the writers) just forgot about her or else my mind is
    failing and I forgot about her
    
    oh bother...........
    
    peg

    
    re; LINDA > I, for one, am sorry to see Linda go.  I do think she was a
    number 1 B*tch, but I loved her character!   I think Greg will be the
    suspect as Paige has an aliby.
    
    re; PAIGE > I agree with all the previous replies......that Pierce is 
    definitely up to something!  Also, he just isn't sexy enough for
    someone like Paige!   I was surprised that Greg fired her on the spot
    too.  I thought he'd really chew her out, but not fire her!
    
    re; BRIAN > What a scumbag!!!!!!!!!!!  Everyone's been asking where Tom
    is and why was he shown on the last show of last season......I have a
    theory! --->> Since he was the PI that was questioning Paige on Brian's
    disapearance, could he be the PI that his x-wife hired and subsequently, 
    THE PI THAT BRIAN KILLED!!!!!!!  Hmmmmmmmmmm!?    Also, since Brian's
    supposed to be missing, I think it's gonna be a LOOOOOOOONG time
    until this whole plot is solved!
    
    re; ANN > I love it!  She's finally found a way to make lots of money
    and get herself out of the dumps.   She told Murray (?) that she was
    only posing nude that one time.....any bets that this becomes her
    'profession'?
    
    re; THE REST OF THE CAST > Boring!  Karen is always such a whiner.
    Val is alway miss-do-gooder.  Mac just plain over-acts.
    
    ....but, I have confidence in KL....it'll get juicy just wait and
    see!
    
    BjM                                                
    
    
    

    
    Oh......forgot  .....
    
    re; GREG > I'll always like him as Greg Sumner no matter how subdude
    he gets ----- I'm sure his character will be heating up REALLLLLLLL
    soon though!
    
    re; CLAUDIA > I applaud the way Katie is treating her and I'm finally
    glad that at least someone has 'found her out'!   I'm also surprised
    that Greg believes Claudia over Katie (unless he's just pretending)
    
    re; KATIE> I hope she doesn't get hooked up with the Professor...I
    kinda hope Paige dumps Mr-slimy-lips-with-no-sexappeal and goes 
    after him.  I think they'd make a hot couple!   HERE'S a straw to break
    the camels (Katie's) back......Katie starts dating him and HER MOTHER
    steals him away ie; they're both professors at the same school right? 
    (the Prof of course won't know that they're related)....anything can
    happen in soapland.................................................
    
    BjM
    
    

    
    
    	RE: .308, Any answers???  Little things like that just bug
    	the hell out of me...:-)

    Re: Linda's apartment.  As far as I remember, she did move in with
    Greg, and out of her apartment.  The night that she and Brian were
    fooling around, was the night that Greg picked her up to move into his
    place.  She had Brian hide in the closet so Greg wouldn't see him, and
    then he was gone the next day.

    
    More re; Linda's apartment --- I believe she did 'move' in with Greg,
    but she only moved a suitcase of clothes.  She was probably keeping
    both place or perhaps the market is bad in Knots Landing and she was
    unable to sell her condo ....
    
    Good question 308!
    
    BjM
    

    Or, maybe she just hung onto the place so she'd have some place
    to go with her "on-the-side" affairs.  Certainly wouldn't be 
    fitting to take them home to Gregs.  After all, this woman seemed
    to have a number of these trysts in her short stint on the show.
    
    Jan

    
    
    	Thanks fellow noters!  I do remember her only taking her 
    	suitcase and a few clothes so she probably did keep the 
    	place for her little affairs...:-)
    
    	Zina  
                  

    re:  a couple back - she had a few trysts during her short stint on the
    show - that's why the actress asked to leave the show - she didn't like
    how her character was evolving into a "slut".
    
    Any got an update from last night?  I HAD to go to a hockey game so I
    taped it and won't watch it until tonight.
    
    Thanks,
    
    BK
    

ok, here's a short update -

    
    
    
ann was a guest on karens talk show.  karen didn't want ann on at all because
karen thinks what ann did was not proper.  i guess ann has been making the 
rounds and talking about her reasons for baring all.  according to ann -
'why can't wmoen over 40 have a little fun, too?' . there was some funny talk
betwenn karne and ann.  karen kept asking ann why she did it.  ann started
talking her "prepared script' from benny. (i guess they are trying to make as
much moeny as they can off of this). then ann caved in and told the truth.
the REAL truth - about how she was homeless and paige wouldn't take her in and 
how ann "used" paiges money and credit cards.  all this time too paige was in 
the wings and after ann told the truth they made up.

valene is trying to teach her friend (lulu?) how to read. 

claudia faints in the ladies room at the sumner group bldg. coinsidence that
greg's secretary hapens to be in there at the same time - i think not! and
neither did greg. the secretary got greg when claudia fainted. so i guess greg
doesn't believe claudia too much either.  

kate still wants nothing to do with claudia. gary convinces kate that they still
should talk - even though there is nothing to say.  so kate and claudia meet for
lunch. of course, they have this big fight.  karen happens to be nearby. she
tries to console claudia. claudia invites herself to dinner at karens that 
night. claudia is late, karen worries. karen and mac go next door to claudias
house and the front door is unlocked. they find claudia on the floor of the 
living room and an empty bottle of somehting on the table.  karen was worried
because claudia seemed so distraught after her encounter with kate.

frank got a call from a cute thing on karens show - debbie. debbie was very
straight forward and told frank right out that she wanted to date him. she made
a date with him for that friday night.  nothing great here.

pierce is up to something.  he finangled a raquetball game with greg. then the
tidal energy group (gary-val-paige-pierce-professor) are having dinner and
when it comes time for the check, the waiter says that mr sumner took care
of it. pierce looked a little smug in my opinion.

at the end greg was notified of lindas death.

previews:

greg is after the cops to find brian johnston. a new character is intorduced.
she is played by the actress who played kate on OLTL.

i'm sure there is more, but time is short.

ann

    
    A couple more things from last night...
    
    
    
    
     Greg has a meeting with some professor and all of a sudden a second
    professor meets them and the two profs know each other, and then a
    third one meets them and all three profs know each other. Come to find
    out, they are supposed to be the leading oceanographers in the world
    and Greg tells him he called them their because he has this crazy idea
    - "TIDAL POWER". So it looks like Greg is going to try to steal the
    wind from Gary and Pierces sails.
    
     I thought the smug look on Pierces face at the restaraunt was because
    he beat Greg at racketball and he thought it had something to do with
    that.
    
     There were some real funny coments while Anne was on Karens show.
    Karen asked Anne why she did it and she said because she had the body
    for it. karen told Anne she wouldn't be able to do it and Anne said
    maybe you don't have the body for it. ;^)
    
     Gary got the bank loan for the new Tidal Power company.
    
     Gary and Pierce are trying to get a hold of some local politician and
    are having problems getting him. Paige comes in while they are Gary and
    Pierce are on the phone - the phone rings and Paige answers it like she
    belongs there and it's the local politician. She makes some small talk
    with him about her not working for the Summner Group any more and she
    arranges for the local politician to see a prototype that week. She
    gets off the phone and Pierce makes some comment about letting her work
    with them.
    
    That's about all - Ron

    
    ALSO IN THE PREVIEWS (and it looks like we all might be right about
    Pierce.....)
    
    	There's a new woman being introduced (don't remember her name) but
    she runs into Greg [somewhere] and the exchange surprise hellos (ie;
    Hello ______.......well, heeeeellllloooooo, Greg Sumner).  Anyway, at
    the end of the previews you see this woman and Pierce together outside
    his house/apt/hotel (not sure exactly where they were) and he says
    something like "Why don't you come inside so we can talk about it".
    MY GUESS is that Sumner has her doing some spying for him relative to
    the water project!
    
    They also mentioned that Knots won't return until after the world
    series......could be 2-3 weeks.
    
    BjM
    
    

    Did anyone notice the look on the professor's face when Paige walked
    in and answered the phone.  I got the impression, by the look on his
    face, that he found her extremely attractive.  I wonder if they'll
    throw a little monkey wrench in Paige and Pierce's romance and have
    Paige and the Professor get together?
    
    Also, I loved Paige's hair the way she wore it at the restaurant.
    Looked great.
    
    I was surprised they didn't have more than a few seconds at the end
    about Linda's death.  I thought it would be a main part of this week's
    show.  Now we have to wait 2-3 weeks to start the ball rolling on this
    story.
    
    I wonder if Claudia staged this suicide attempt the way it looks like
    she staged the fainting spell for Gary.  If she had a specific time
    to be at dinner it would follow that Karen and Mac would begin to worry
    about her.  'Course she's taking a very big chance.  Maybe she only
    took enough to make it look like she tried to kill herself.  She seems
    just devious enough to stage something like this.  Of course, there's
    still the chance that she is showing "real" emotions and totally losing
    it over her daughter disowning her.
    
    BTW, that Professor can work on his wave machine at my house any day!
    
    Jan

    about claudia......the woman is not stupid...she realizes that she has
    lost katie for what she did to steve..this is a way to get katie to
    feel bad and come back home to mommy dearest!
    
    claudia doesn't have enough of a strong will to kill herself. if you
    think about the whole setup with Karen, she knew that Karen would be
    over if she was late for dinner...
    
    I'm wondering about Gregg, he seems to be on to her, especially after
    the bathroom scene...he has got to know that there is more to this
    story that meets the eye...
    
    and I want to know why Gregg suspects Brian, did they find the tape, a
    few finger prints, was he seen leaving the scene....Linda ticked off
    alot of people, anyone could have enough motive to kill her! 
    
    Maybe slimy Puke (I mean Pierce) is using this new babe on the show to
    get info from gregg...if pierce has all these connections to find out
    about Gary, then he must know that all these hot shot scientists are in
    town....
    
    and Paige, please get a haircut!
    
    peg

    Cramer-thanks for all the up to the minute notes on AMC.  Re: Jason's
    short hair- He did that for his father last season or the one before in
    the hopes that it would make his father happier.
    
    BjM- interesting theory about Brian and P.I. 
    
    I think that women that Greg was talking to in the previews was
    pierce's wife or ex-wife.
    
    doreen

    
    Is KL on tonight or are the basebal games still on??
    
    When is it scheduled to return??
    
    Thanks!!
    

    It's not on this week and is not scheduled for next week either
    depending on whether another game is needed.  The TV guide didn't go
    into what would be on if another game wasn't needed, but KN was not
    scheduled.  So, I would count on the next episode being on October 31.
    
    Cheryl

    There was a coming attraction commercial - probably trying to peek our
    interest.  I wish they would not put the World Series on Thursday
    nights!
    
    It looks like greg is still very much interested in Paige.  I don't
    remember what it showed about her new boyfriend.  I don't like him
    though.
    
    doreen

    
    RE: 330
    
    I heard one also, I think last night.  They said something about a
    woman wrecking/or back in HIS life.  Not sure who they were talking
    about, I thought either Greg or Paige's new friend.
    
    el

    RE: 331- they probably could have meant either or both Greg & paige's
    new beau.  I wish I had been paying more attention.
    
    doreen

    I saw the commerical last nite.  It made it look like there is a new
    character (a woman).  Also it looked like Brian was going to kill Karen
    (for what reason I don't know).  It just said that he killed once and
    now he is after someone new and they flashed Karen on the screen.  Greg
    did have a comment "I may not be on Paige's bones but I am still on her
    mind".   And yes KL will be on October 31st.
    
    Tricia

    Re: note .314, I don't think that it was Tom that Brian killed. Tom is
    not a PI, he's a cop.

    Thought someone might like this - different things from SOD:
    
    November's hottest stories - 
    
    Linda Fairgate's murder was not Brian Johnston's last crime.  In fact,
    the knife-toting, neck-slashing villain spends November creating a wave
    of terror in a story that will escalate dramatically and end in a
    stunning climax.  Who will his next "victim" be?
    
    Affairs of the heart - Paige and Pierce's relationship reaches a
    turning point when she discovers that he has a secret past that he
    wants to keep hidden.  Meanwhile, the battle between Sumner Group and
    Tidal Energy Inc. will heat up, as both sides go to unusual extremes to
    ensure the other's defeat ... Cupid's arrows strike Kate and Joseph
    Barringer - how will Uncle Greg feel about her fraternizing with the
    enemy?  Claudia's schemes to win back Kate's affections are finally
    successful, and the two reconcile.
    
    Why Joey Gian didn't come back as Tom:  He wants to work on his music
    career so his acting is on hold.  He tried to negotiate a part-time
    deal with KL but the producer's wanted to sign him to a 2 year
    contract.  He knew he couldn't do 2 years so he said how about 10
    episodes and the producers said either 2 years or 3 episodes.  He says
    he would come back if the character were to be brought back right.  In
    the meantime he is working on his album that will be released next
    summer.
    
    bk
    

    
    	Yes!  For those of you who may not watch Star Search, Joey
    	was a Star Search Male Vocalist champion a few years ago
    	and has a *beautiful* voice.  I remember being disappointed
    	finding that he went into acting (was on Hooper with John
    	Ritter at the time), instead of singing.  Glad to hear he's
    	now going to give the latter a shot.  Then maybe we'll see
    	him back on KL and have the best of both worlds!
    
    	JJ
    

    No not another STAR SEARCH founded Star.  For those of you who
    watch AMC that is where the I-DON'T-KNOW-HOW-TO-SAY-MY-LINES
    ACTOR-FROM-STAR-SEARCH came from.  For those of you who watch
    AMC you know who Derick is, but those of you who don't you are
    lucky. *^) *^)
    
    It really gives me a skeptical feeling when I hear that Tom
    came from there.  He probably does have a good voice, but 
    now when I think of STAR SEARCH it gave it a bad name. *^) *^)
    
    I really like Tom and the character he played on Knots Landing
    with Paige.  I thought they were neat together.
    
    I kindof liked Paige with Greg though.  They added lots of
    passion on KL. *^) *^)  
    
    Looks like they are picking up there storylines for this
    coming winter on KL.  I am glad to know they are bringing
    some new characters to the show, it needed this. *^) *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    
                  

    
    
    	re: Tracey.....
    
    	Trust me......he's good!  I flipped to AMC last week when
    	I was home sick and thought I recognized Derek.  I think the
    	actor's name is Scott Thompson Baker or something like that?
    
    	Star Search got rid of the acting competitions a long time
    	ago.  Now they concentrate on the music, comedy and beauty
    	competitions.  A lot of good entertainers have come off that
    	show!  Can't judge it by one lousy actor.  =)
    
    	JJ
    

    I'm pretty sure that Scott Thompson Baker is the actor who plays 
    Craig, not Derek.  The actor that plays Craig was on Star Search 
    and he did quite well.  I was watching Star Search way back then.  
    If I remember correctly, he was actually one of the better contestants.  
    He also spent some time as Colton Shore on General Hospital.
                                            
    Jan

    That's correct, Jan. I believe the name of the actor that plays Dereck
    is named William Christian (or Christopher?) or something like that.
    
    Btw--->Colton also played in a mens cologne  commercial it was called
    "Californian".
    
    Bon

    
    
    	Oops!  You're right.  I don't watch AMC all the time.
    	STB is Craig, not Derek.  I don't recognize the other
    	name from Star Search though.
    

    Please someone give an update from last night. I missed it.
    

    
    	re: -1
    
    	you didn't miss much.  If no one else puts one in, I'll
    	try and get to it later.  
    
    	JJ
    

    
    Did anyone notice that Paige and her mother had on allmost identical
    dresses?  Different styles, but same colors, brown with white polka
    dots.  
    
    KC
    

    It looks like they are setting up for Greg and Paige to get
    back together.  Did you all catch that comment Greg made
    "I may not be on her ... but I'm on her mind ! "
    
    It was a pretty good show.  Greg is trying to find Linda's killer.
    Claudia is recovering at Karen's and her daughter forgives her.
    There's a new woman in town and Greg knows her and Pierce used
    to be in love with her.  Frank goes out with (forgot her name)
    again.  Boring Val is trying to teach wha's her name to read.
    Ann is trying to get a job as a talk show hostess and the man
    that would hire her is the same one she took that photo of in
    the hotel room and he recognizes her.
    
    Nancy

    I thought it was pretty risque when Greg made references to Paige
    about Linda being shot right out from underneath him.  It looks like
    Greg has hired a hitman to go find Brian.  I get the impression that
    Brian may go after Greg.  I was able to see Brian standing outside
    the Gun Club (through the fuzz on the tv) after Greg left.
    
    I watched this show on my mom's tv and her cable is having problems
    with the channel it comes on so I didn't see much, just heard it.
    Can't be much help with the updates as I need a visual picture to
    be able to remember what happened.
    
    Jan

    I thought I would add alittle more to the update from last
    nights show.
    
    The new girl that has come to Knots Landing that sees Greg
    knows Paige's boyfriend, that use to be lovers.  Once he
    sees she is in town he goes to see her to tell her if she
    is there for him he is in love with Paige.  She tells him
    you mean like we were, he says nothing like it, I really
    love her.
    
    As he is over with the other woman Greg comes to Paige's
    door and uses his key to get in as Paige thinks its her
    boyfriend.  Greg says he is over to get info on Linda if
    she knows anything.  She says I know nothing, just that
    Brian tried to pull a fast one on her and she wised up
    after 10 minutes.  Then Paige says why do you care about
    Linda you never loved her and he says he doesn't care
    he doesn't want the woman swept out from underneath him.
    
    Just then Pierce(?) comes back and doesn't tell Paige
    where he had been until the next day while they are at
    work.  He is honest with her and tells her the truth
    on where he was and what had happened.  Paige then 
    figured out that she was the girl that sent him this
    postcard with some boats on it and looked real funny
    when he got it, this happened earlier.
    
    Kate and her mother finally make up after she attempts
    to suicide or whatever by taking 5 sleeping pills.  
    Karen has a talk with her and convinces her that she
    is her mother and she should care what happens.  Kate
    then goes to see her.
    
    Paige's mother has a idea to try to get her own talk
    show so her and her agent go on a important interview
    to see if she will get hired.  It appears she may have
    a shot.  It was funny as they pull up to where they
    are meeting the agent they have this CLUNKER of a car
    and he tells the parking guy to be careful it is not
    paid for. *^)
    
    Frank has another date with his new modern girlfriend
    and has big plans for them as they get alittle turned
    around.  They do however inspite of the fact the plans
    were altered make the best of it.  Things were getting
    alittle heated up between the two of them as they 
    did the "Wild Thing".  The next day he is at work and
    she sends him flowers and Mac churps to him this means
    she still respects you. *^) *^)
    
    The show was pretty good, I enjoyed it. *^) *^)
    
    Hope this helped for whoever wanted the update, can't 
    remember, sorry. *^)
    
    Tracey
    
     
    
    
    

    Hope you guys did not mind my lengthy update on Knots.
    
    I get carried away as I am trying to type and think at the
    same time.  For anyone who watches AMC knows that. *^)
    
    Sorry about my mistake for Star Search it was Scott 
    Thompson Baker, not Derick that was from there.  Now
    that I think about it, Derick should have been from
    the GONG SHOW!!!! *^) *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    

    What do ya'll think about the "dreams" that Claudia has been having
    while she was sleeping at Karen's?  Do you think she walked in after
    Rosa (her mom maybe?) had taking some pills to kill herself?  It kept
    showing that glass fall off the nightstand and red liquid falling out
    near a little girl's feet.  I wonder if this means she really might
    have been considering suicide.

    Moody-->  You know now that you mentioned it I forgot about
    those spooky dreams that Claudia was having.  It really gave
    me the creeps when that blood would start spilling out as
    the vase or whatever that was would fall over.
    
    It did seem as though she was reliving something it her
    past.  Whoever Rosa is (could be mother or maybe her
    grandmother???) must have been who she saw as little girl
    attempt or actually kill herself.  It was pretty good, and
    I forgot about that when I did the update.
    
    On the previews it shows her telling, I think Karen about
    her remembering Rosa in her dreams.  It is kindof interesting
    and I will be curious to see what her dreams are all about.
    
    
    Tracey
    
    
    

    
    Last night's episode was a little slow I thought....but a decent one.
    
    Now, who believes that Greg Sumner is just going to accept defeat and
    bow out gracefully??!!  I'd be afraid of what he is going to pull if
    I was Paige and company!!
    
    Is it me or is Anne looking very ragged these days.  I know she was
    supposed to look bad during her "streetlady" days but the past few
    shows I've thought she looked very tired and worn. 
    
    Next week's show looks like a good one!!!
    

    
    Anyone have an update for last night?  I fell asleep before it started.
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    KC
    

    Where's all the Knots Landing lovers ? !  This note is so dead
    this year - it is as dead as Linda Fairgate !  The show is
    still pretty good but you noters are just not getting in the
    swing of things here !  I wonder if the ratings have fallen
    off this year.  I think Knots is the last night time soap left,
    isn't it?
    
    Nancy

    
    I finally watched last weeks show.  It wasn't too bad but not to 
    great either.  I'll try to remember what happened.  
    
    Paiges mother started the radio talk show.  It was really funny.
    That guy she lives with had a bunch of people over and gave them
    stories to call in with.  The advice she gave was a scream!  The
    show was a success. 
    
    Paige, Pierce, Gary and the scientist had to get the vote of some
    board, not exactly sure what it was all about, I was only half
    listening.  Anyway, Greg tried to blackmail some of the board members
    into voting his way but Paige and Pierce outdid Greg and they won
    the vote.  
    
    Claudia is up to something.  Karen came in to see her and she was
    sitting in a chair all spaced out calling out the name Rosa.  When
    Karen questioned her about it later Claudia said that she doesnt' know
    any Rosa.  Later when Karen was at home and going through the mail 
    a letter arrived for Claudia from a Rosa.  Karen brought it over to her
    and questioned her about it.  Claudia played stupid and said that she
    had forgotten all about this woman who had cared for her mother while
    she was sick.  I don't know what she's up to but I can't stand that
    woman.  
    
    The PI that Greg hired to find Brian found him at one of Brians ex
    lovers houses, she was out of the country.  While the PI was sneeking
    around the house to see if Brian was there, Brian came up behind him
    and killed him.  Greg and the police know that Brian did it but havn't
    been able to find him.  Greg went to Mac asking him to help make sure
    that justice is done and Brian is found.  I'm not sure if Mac is going
    to help him or not.  
    
    In the previews to next week they showed Greg walking into a house, I
    think Mac and Karens while Brian was hiding with a gun.  
    
    That's all I can remember.  Lets get this file going!!!!!
    
    KC
    

    If I'm not mistaken, the most recent preview appears to show Brian 
    and Meg together.  I'm wondering if Brian will go after Greg or Mac
    through Meg.  I guess most people don't know that Meg is Greg's 
    daughter so it must be Mac he's after.  Greg did tell Mac that the
    last guy he sent to find Brian was killed didn't he?  Then he asks
    Mac to help.  If Mac was smart he'd stay out of this one but, we 
    all know he's got to be right in the middle of everything.
    
    Jan

    
    Yes, Greg did tell Mac about Brian killing the PI.  I think your
    idea about Brian going after them through Meg is probably correct.
    
    KC
    

    There was a talk show sometime last week in which Michelle Lee (Karen)
    was on...the woman asked her about Knots and all Karen would say is
    that her family will be in rough shape this year...so I wonder what it
    could be.....loosing Linda was no biggie.....Mac getting involved with
    Gregg might do...especially if the previews hold true....If Brian take
    a pot shot at Gregg will he is visting Meg, and Meg gets accidently
    wounded, you know that Mac will doing ANYTHING to protect his
    daughter...come on Mac, get a real life will ya.....and find one for
    your wife too.....
    
    something has to be with the woman who is after Pearce (please take
    him,  he's not even exciting to look at..)...this seems like it is
    turning into a fatal attraction kind of thing....I just have one
    question, last week, or maybe it was 2 weeks ago...Pearce received this
    postcard from this woman...how did she know where he lived??? it didn't
    sound like he left a forwarding address...afterall, didn't he keep
    tellingPaige that he was a bit estranged from his family??? just curous
    that's all....
    
    I wonder if she is an ex-wife or something??? Maybe she will go after
    Paige, kidnap her and then Gregg will come back into the picture some
    how...
    
    Gregg is going to take a nutty once he finds out that his niece is
    doing the belly button bop with the professor...man, was it me or does
    Katie really seem to want it???? let's just hope that the show makes
    the professor wear a condom.....remember back when Gary had a fling
    with...god what is her name...she was the woman raped by Val's previous
    husband....anyway, Amanda, yes that is her name, was wearing a condom
    pinned to her blouse...this would be a good opportunity to address this
    issue...if they are working on adult illertacy then safe sex can be
    addressed too
    
    well those are just a few thoughts....time to do the "W"
    word.....work..aaggghhhh
    
    
    peg

    
    
    I was also wondering about how the postcard got to Pierce.  Since I
    missed the first few minutes of that show I figured he had mail
    forwarded to Paige's.
    
    Last week's show wasn't too bad.  I loved the bit with Anne and Benny. 
    It didn't take Anne long to get into her show, she was nervous at the
    start.  She's a riot!  I also think Benny has got the hots for Anne.
    
    I agree about Katie.  There was no misreading her, she wanted the Prof.
    
    Wonder what will happen tonight?
    Rania
    

    
    re: 358
    
    Ann and Benny go together like ..the old saying.. two peas in a pod!
    They just seem to glow ..when they are plotting a new adventure.
    
    I wonder if they (the casting directors) really knew that their team
    would be as comical as they are.  I think they are a riot.  I especially
    liked how they met up.
    
    ..el
    

    
    I think Benny does have the hots for Anne.  When they showed the scenes
    from next week there was a scene with Benny calling into Annes show to
    get advice about being in love with his friend and her not knowing.  
    I'm not sure if she knows it's him calling, I think she does.  We'll
    find out tonight!!!  
    
    KC
    

    A few weeks ago, there was a movie with the old Abby in it....her
    character was so different from the witch she used to be..that is what
    this show needs...a real ball buster...Abby didn't care who she stepped
    on as long as she got her way....Now there is no one to do the dirty
    work. Claudia is a space cadet, Val and Karen are saving the world,
    Paige is busy wiping the drool off her chin from Pukey Pierce and Ann
    is quickly becoming the Joan Rivers of late night talk shows...come on
    writers of Knots, bring back JILL, and ABBY! 

	I was an avid fan but, haven't gotten into it yet this 
	season.  But, I will be watching tonight.  I know the 
	new character.  Her name is Marcia Cross.

	The new woman on Knots happens to be from Marlboro, MA.
	I have been friends with her sister for years.  She used to
	play one of Brad's models way back on General Hospital.  About
	six years ago when my friend got married she was living 
	with Larkin Malloy (ex Travis Montgomery from AMC) he came 
	to the wedding also.  It was fun to meet him and it is always
	fun to see her on T.V. or in movies. 
	
	She was orginally signed for 4 shows but, Knots wants her
	for 6.  So they have some plan for her.  She can't say 
	what is going on.  I use to ask her for scoops on the 
	ABC soaps but they are sworn to secrecy.              
    
	So it will be interesting to fine out who she is and why
	she is there.  If I get any other scoops I'll keep you 	
	informed.


	Silent Noter


	Cyndi

    re: .360
    
    I forgot about the previews.  Wonder if Anne will recognize his voice?
    Although I think they are really great together I can't see them as a
    couple.  
    
    I too LOVED the way they met.  I had no idea what Anne was doing
    chasing this guy and tackling him.
    
    ...Rania
    

    well well.....what did everyone think of the ending of last night's
    show??? we have been all screaming for action and I think that we are
    finally going to get it.....
    
    
    I'll loved Brian's line to Karen....."I'm going to do things to you
    that have never been done before"...........
    
    Victoria is psycho!!! big time.....but I wonder what the scoop is with
    Pierce...was he in a boating accident and someone died, was he charged
    with manslaughter????? i'm sure we'll find out, Victoria will probably
    try and blackmail him into being with her or else she will go to Paige
    and tell all........
    
    looking forward to Knots next week....should be interesting....and Cq,
    that's just way too cool you knowing someone from Knots...
    
    peg

    
    Please...pretty please...can someone give us a full update???  
    I only caught the first 15 minutes.  I rushed home to watch the
    show and wouldn't ya know I zonked right out!  UGH!!!!!  I couldn't
    believe it!  I have a feeling it was a real good show.   
    
    I'm dying to find out what happened!!!
    
    Thanks in advance...
    
    Paula
    

    
    
    	Ditto.  I've been feeling rather lousy lately so I 
    	went straight to bed when I got home yesterday.  And
    	forgot to set the VCR.
    
    	Thanks
    
    	JJ
    

        


            
    Last night was the first time I had seen the show all season.  I have 
    trouble staying up that late.  I'll have to add it to the program on 
    the VCR.  I felt a little lost at times with who some of the characters
    are.

    I'll have to go back a few notes to catch-up.  

    One thing I did notice is they have changed the character on Frank.  He 
    always seemed to be a goody goody and so pure.  Now he is like the
    sex king a Stud Muffin. Wow!  

      -- 
     |	Victoria is psycho!!! big time.....but I wonder what the scoop is with
     |	Pierce...was he in a boating accident and someone died, was he charged
    <	with manslaughter????? i'm sure we'll find out, Victoria will probably
     |	try and blackmail him into being with her or else she will go to Paige
     |	and tell all........
      __
   
    She didn't tell me she was playing a Fatal Attration type.  WOW! She 
    does it so well.  Something happened big time and Pierce was trying
    to act so tough but we know he is shaking in his boots.  Could you see
    the daggers between Paige and Victoria.  Yup! It's heating up.


    Peg*** It is really a kick to watch her.  She is a blast we used to
	   party big time about 6 years ago.  Now look at her.  Last
	   week she was also on Pros and Cons.  I missed that.  She said it 
	   comes in bunches.  Right now she is busy.  She was also on 
	   Cheers she played Rebecca's sister. The only movie that I know
	   off the top of my head is Bad Influence.  It was really good 	
	   and it is out on Video.  So she is really starting
	   to be known in the business.  I wish her all the best, she has 
	   worked hard to get this far.
   

    Cyndi




   

    Cyndi, 
    
    	that's right, I did see "Victoria" on Cheers that night, what a
    dynamite actress...this being psych is no reflection on her real life
    is it???.....just kidding...I think it is so much harder to play
    someone like that....I did think of Glenn Close last night when Pierce
    walked through the door....I was waiting for the bunny!
    
    scoop on last night......
    
    Frank and his new hot babe....she is getting pretty tired of the
    relationship. Due to the difference in age and other things, they have
    nothing in common to talk about. Seems as Frank just wants the belly
    button bop and she wants more...Karen went to Frank to discuss this
    with him...I didn't pay alot of attention here, I was too busy yelling
    at Karen to get a life and stop meddling in other people's business.
    
    Kate confessed to Val that she thinks she loves the professor and
    stared asking Val when she knew she was in love with Gary. Later on,
    the prof has quit being a prof. He realizes that Gary and Pierce have
    devoted much time and money to project tidal wave and he must do his
    part as well....Kate tells him if he ever needs a hand to be there for
    him she will...they play suck face and she asks him to come home with
    her...the following morning, Kate and the Prof are having some serious
    afterglow....it was nice
    
    Mac has called in an old marker from the police dept to find out what
    is going on with Brian Johnston...the police think thathave Brian
    surrounded in a hotel to onlt find he has escaped...I think he is
    hiding in a trailor that the police keep walking by in the parking lot.
    
    Victoria is trying her best to get Pierce...she invites Paige over so
    that they can have a looksie at each other...Victoria was sitting there
    giving Paige dagger eyes and Paige was cool telling her that she and
    Pierce are in love and that anything she needs to learn about Pierce's
    past, she will learn it from him and not Victoria....this is the first
    time I have actually seen Paige look good! Victoria comes over to
    Paige's apartment and tells Pierce that she was mugged a block from the
    apartment and needs to call a cab. Pierce doesn't fall for this and
    trys to throw her out. She makes some comment about the Islands and
    asks Pierce is he has told Paige about ???,I didn't quite catch what
    she said. Victoria left and Pierce was visibly upset. Later on Pierce
    is having a dream..there is a boat in a storm and all you see are hadns
    trying to rope down the sails and another set of hands grabbing for
    someone on the side of the boat...it looks like someone may have
    drowned here...Pierce wakes up in a sweat and just hugs Paige
    
    Now the good stuff.....gregg shows up at Mac and Karen's house to give
    Meg her birthday present. He goes inside as we see Brian running around
    to the back of Mac's house as he has spotted a cruiser in the area.
    Gregg leaves and Karen tells Meg to do her part in cleaning up and
    bring one bag of trash outside to the patio...as Meg walks out, she
    sees Brian and tells him that he was not invited to the party..out
    comes Karen, Brian points a gun at Karen and grabs Meg.....END OF
    SHOW!!!
    
    
    Previews...Mac, being the all American hero, tries to fight off Brian,
    Brian just throws Mac against the wall and ties him up...Brian then
    goes to Karen, holds the gun under her neck and tells her "I AM GOING
    TO DO THINGS TO YOU THAT YOU HAVE NEVER DONE BEFORE", or something to 
    that effect!!!!!
    
    can't wait to next week!!!!!!
    
    peg  

    Peg,
    
    I did the same thing when Karen went over to Frank's. I was telling her
    That's right go stick your nose in Frank's business. Victoria also was
    in OLTL for a while. I thnk Paige looked so good because for once she
    had her bangs off her face. I think that Paige and Victoria look
    similar, probably because, they both have very strong jaws. I think
    Frank and Debbie will talk and find out that Frank was only being that
    way because that is how she was in the beginning. Frank is more of a
    family kinda of a guy. Where has Julie been Lately? Notice that doll
    house Greg gave Meg. Barbie doll house cost almost $400.00. Nice !!!
    
    
    Cathy
     

    
    Great update!!!  Thanks.
    
    I fell asleep last night and missed all but the first 10 minutes of the 
    show.  Sounds like I missed a great one too.  
    
    Next week sure sounds like it will be interesting.  
    
    Thanks again for the super update.
    
    KC
    

    one more thing in the update....Victoria had called Pierce at the barn
    and told him to think of the islands they were on, her comment to him
    was "Let's do the island again" or something like that. Anyways, she
    tells Pierce that the door to her apartment will be open at
    midnight...the scene flashes to Victoria's apartment where the room is
    totally lit in candles and she is sitting there very seductivly in a
    white almost none existant nightie...In walks Pierce, slooowwwwllllyyy
    walks around her as she is sitting in the chair.....he places his hand
    on her shoulder/throat and tells her........
    
    
    
    
	NEVER CALL ME AGAIN AND PUT YOUR CLOTHES ON..............Victoria
    it seems though is not the type of person to just give
    up....hhmmm...besides Linda getting a new throat to breath through,
    this was the best show by far.....Now the question is....how or who
    will find out what is going on at the MacKenzie's and save them...Oh
    Val, this is your cue.....(just kidding)
    
    until next thurs.......yea!
    
    peg

    CQuinn-->  That is real interesting that you know "Victoria" on
    Knots.  I think it would ge great to actually see a familiar
    face on a Night Time Soap like that.
    
    Also the fact that she knew the ex-"Travis" from AMC is also
    very interesting.  I am a great lover of AMC also.  
    
    I liked Knots last night ecspecially with the new story
    lines opening up with Victoria, Pierce and Kate's new
    founded love, whatever his name is,(Johnny ?).
    
    I felt bad for Benny last night when Anne had to give him
    the truth about her not loving him the way he loves her.
    I felt real sorry when he figured out she knew who he
    was as he hung up on her. 
    
    I really couldn't see Anne with Benny, they just don't
    seem to match. *^) I hope those two at least stay friends
    because they are funny together.
    
    I wonder what is going to happen to poor Karen.  I just
    wonder what he has in mind for her as Mac is tied up.  Greg
    once he finds out is going to have a fit.  If Meg is now
    somehow involved then watch out.
    
    Should be interesting, can't wait!!!! *^)
    
    Tracey
    

            
    CQuinn-->  That is real interesting that you know "Victoria" on
    Knots.  I think it would ge great to actually see a familiar
    face on a Night Time Soap like that.
    
    Also the fact that she knew the ex-"Travis" from AMC is also
    very interesting.  I am a great lover of AMC also.  
    
  *** 	Not only did she know him she lived with him and they had
 	a relationship that lasted for quite a while.  But, they 
	both wanted different things.  So they parted company.

	I met him when he came to the wedding we had breakfast at
	her parents house in Marlboro.  When they arrived the 
	neighbors all came out to see it was cool. He was really
	a nice person and didn't mind that several people wanted to
	meet him and have pictures with him.  Of course I was one 
	of the first.  He is really much more handsome in person 
	or he has changed over the past couple years because 
	I am also a read only noter in AMC and he looked awful 
	before he left. IMO

    I liked Knots last night ecspecially with the new story
    lines opening up with Victoria, Pierce and Kate's new
    founded love, whatever his name is,(Johnny ?).

    ***	I think things will really heat up now.  New characters
	with several different directions that they can take.	    




    I felt bad for Benny last night when Anne had to give him
    the truth about her not loving him the way he loves her.
    I felt real sorry when he figured out she knew who he
    was as he hung up on her. 


    
    I really couldn't see Anne with Benny, they just don't
    seem to match. *^) I hope those two at least stay friends
    because they are funny together.

    ***	I have to agree they are no match together as a couple but, 
	they are good as friends, I hope they don't break his
	heart then make him go after her.  We have seen that to
	many times in the past.

    
     
    Should be interesting, can't wait!!!! *^)
    

    I'll have to take a nap when I get home so I can stay up.

	
    Also, I think I like being a non-silent noter, I'll have to start
    taping AMC and GH (at least on Monday's and Friday's) so I
    can get more involved there as well.


	Have a great weekend!


	Cyndi

    

    Cyndi and others, Are you coming to the ABC_Soaps dinner?????
    
    Last night's episode of Knots was the best all season.  It kept my
    attention, unlike the past episodes.  Next week looks great also.
    
    Cheryl

    Well, I missed the first 20 minutes of Knots since I was taking
    forever to shop for the food for my open house this weekend.
    I had the tape set but the VCR was on the wrong channel.  Caught
    most of the important things though...and the cliffhanger.
    
    I thought in the preview that Brian told Karen "I'm going to do
    things to you that you only read about."
    
    Also, I believe Victoria was reminding Pierce of Martinique.  I
    guess they had a candlelit, sensual/sexual experience in Martinique.
    It'll be interesting to see what they do with this storyline.  
    Personally, if someone told me never to call them again...I'd blow
    them off and get on with my life.  Especially after he led her to
    believe he was coming over to do Martinique again.  I never could
    understand what would drive someone to a "fatal attraction" kind
    of state of mind.
    
    Jan

    On the previews at Karen and Mac's house, they didn't show Jason at
    all.  I wonder if he will be the one to save the day.  If you remember,
    he said that he was going upstairs after Karen said that Meg had to
    help clean up instead of setting up her doll house.  
    
    I don't like Pierce and Paige together at all.  I hope that Victoria
    stirs up enough trouble to break them up.  I wish they would bring back
    her old boyfriend, they were great together. 
    
    Where has Julie been?  They haven't had her on the show for awhile.  
    
    What happened to that girl that Val was helping?  She got angry when
    Val wouldn't help her out with her tax problem, and they haven't shown
    her since. 
     

    CQuinn-->  Thanks for the input again on your friend that you
    know and the "ex-Travis".  It is very interesting.  You should
    watch AMC and be a non-silent noter.  Your input would be
    great in the AMC file. *^)  
    
    As many noters as a file can get is great. *^)  I have learned
    that cause I was a silent noter at one time, but not anymore. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
      
    
    

    re: -2
    
    On the previews Jason is in the house with the others being held.
    He even makes a comment about them all getting killed.
    
    As for what Brian says to Karen - it is "I'm going to do things to you
    you only read about".
    
    I was wondering the same thing about Julie not being around.  I haven't
    been paying attention to the credits so I don't know if she's still on
    the show - she should be with Frank still being there.
    
    bk
    

    
    Just heard last night that the story lines on Knots are going to be
    spiced up.  I know a few of you will be happy about the first two...
    
    	. Trouble between Paige and Pierce
    	. The return of Tom
    	. Trouble between Katie and the Professor
    
    

    Lavranos-->  That made my day about the RETURN OF TOM!!!!!!
    I like him alot and glad they are writing him in now. *^)
    
    I also hope Paige and Pierce break up, I can't stand him at
    all. *^)  
    
    Tonight should be a good one with Karen being held hostage
    and the rest of the family.  Can't wait!!!! *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    

    Knots Landing was good last night it was all on the Hostage
    with Brian and the McKenzie's.
    
    I will do a update for those who might not have seen it.
    
    Brian holds onto Meg as he gets all of the McKenzie's to
    cooperation with him.  He wants them all to sit there until
    Greg Sumner calls.  Which he makes Mac go and call and of
    course Greg did not answer.
    
    Brian wants noone to make a move as he tells Karen that
    she can get Meg ready for bed.  Jason starts to grab a
    poker to the fireplace as Karen screams for him to put
    it down.  Brian then wants Jason staying seated with
    the rest of them.
    
    Karen is putting Meg to bed as Meg is very scared because
    she wants Brian to leave.  Karen comes downstairs as Meg
    starts to scream for her.  Brian does not want Karen to
    go back upstairs as he sends Brian.
    
    Brian then wants some coffee, so he makes Mac go and get
    it, since he says he does not trust Karen.  Mac does not
    want to leave Karen with Brian, but he makes him go.
    
    When Mac goes in the kitchen to get the coffee he screams
    that the coffee spills, so Brian lets Karen go in to clean
    it up.  When Karen gets in there she tells Mac they better
    get rid of the birth certificate showing that she is really
    Greg's child.
    
    Mac finally agrees as Brian goes in the kitchen to see
    what is going on.  They stall Brian for awhile as Karen
    finishes trying to tuck in Meg as she goes to the closet
    where Meg's birth certificate it at.
    
    She goes by the kitchen to show Mac that she has it as
    Mac continues to try to distract Brian, so Karen can
    get rid of the birth certificate.  
    
    While she is lighting the fire trying to be very quiet
    Brian hears the fire going and races into the living
    room and wants to know what she is doing.  He is not
    happy for lighting the fire and goes to look in the
    fireplace and finds the birth certificate.
    
    He is very upset at learning Meg is Greg Sumner's and
    Mac tells shim not to hurt Meg.  He then tells Jason
    and Meg they are going nowhere until Greg shows up.
    
    Julie in the meantime calls and wants to talk to Jason
    as he acts really funny.  He agrees to meet her inbetween
    the lawn, so he could give her some school work.  Brian
    is watching closely out the window to make sure he does
    not tell her anything.
    
    Jason is acting very funny with Julie and Julie thinks
    he is trying to blow her off.  Jason can't tell her that
    Brian is in there with a gun to everyone.
    
    Brian then sends Mac out and is alone with Karen as he
    then mentions Linda in a disgusting way and once again
    Karen tells him not to talk to her in that way about
    Linda or anyone.
    
    She then tells him that she never liked her before her
    son married her and after.  She then asks Brian if he
    wants breakfast.  She goes in the kitchen to make him
    breakfast as she watches him eat.
    
    After that he starts to talk nasty to Karen and tells
    her that "He will do things that only she has read about"
    and starts running his hands near her chest.  She is now
    getting nervous as Mac walks in just in time.
    
    Just then Greg calls and Brian tells him he is there and
    has his daughter.  Greg tells him he better not lay a
    finger on Meg.  Brian in enjoying this as all of a 
    sudden Mac spots the gun.
    
    He goes for the gun and then starts the shooting. Brian
    shoots Jason as Mac finally gets Brian in a struggle 
    and the police show up and Jason is going to be taken
    to the hospital for his wound.
    
    That was it, it was pretty good and all on the hostage
    thing. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    
    
    

  
    Tracey-Thanks for your wonderful updates.  I'm a read only in
	   AMC and GH and without you I wouldn't know what was going on.


	I started taping Knots last week and watched it at 5:30 this A>M>
	before work.

	Boy Brian is slime.  Karen was excellent as she looked like she was 
	going to get sick when he kissed her neck and started carressing
	her neck down toward her chest.  
    
	I am glad they have some control with Jason, I think he had to
	fight to many of his old battles with his Dad so he doesn't
	like to get pushed around.  Julie was finally on.  SHe looked ticked
	when he acted like he was blowing her off.

	I had tears in my eyes when Mac was laying on the floor in the
	bathroom tied up and a small hand came and held his hand.  I thought
	it was so wonderful that she came to help her Dad.

	I felt bad for Sumner when Meg yelled Dad and they both looked
	but of course she was talking to Mac.  He truely looked hurt.
	She is a cute little girl.  What beautiful thick hair.  In the braids
	it was so obvious.

	I am glad the hostage scene is over.  Now, lets get back to
	Paige and her lovers past!  
    

    CQuinn-->  Thanks for your thanks. *^)  
    
    I did forget the mention that part about Mac being tied up and
    Meg coming over to him and held his hand.  That was a great
    scene.  That little girl I agree is cute.  I hope that she
    doesn't realize that Greg is her real father.
    
    That would be sad for her to have found out from that creepy
    Brian. 
    
    Well now I do hope that they get on now to the good stuff.
    Bring Tom back and please get rid of Pierce. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    

Reprinted without permission:

'Knots': A makeover to make up with viewers

By Matt Roush
USA TODAY

  Amid signs of viewer defection, CBS' Knots Landing - TV's longest-
running entertainment series - is taking the extreme measure of shutting 
down until January to get its storytelling back on track.

  The series is expected to continue airing while creator David Jacobs 
regroups.  He estimates it will cost $400,000, but wants to end the season 
strongly.  "we can re-create the show everybody wants.  I just hope the 
audience returns." 

  Jacobs blames Knots' decline (it ranked 46th of 95 shows last week vs. No. 
35 last season) on a chain of events:  "Everything that could have gone wrong  
went wrong."  A new writing staff, installed after many Knots vets left to 
create ABC's Homefront, was stranded when Jacobs fell ill for eight weeks. 

  He calls the first seven shows "uniformly awful" and the next batch 
"uniformly inconsistent."  Viewers objected to popular vixen Paige (Nicollette 
Sheridan) mooning over new beau Pierce Lawton (Bruce Greenwood) and reuniting 
with her shady mother (MIchelle Phillips).  Sheridan bugged Jacobs to fix the 
show.  

  Another new character, an environmentally conscious professor, failed to 
ignite with ingenue Kate (Stacy Galina).

  "Those relationships just didn't work,"  Jacobs admits.  So watch for the 
professor's tidal-energy business to collapse, and Pierce to become a villian.

  Fans also missed Paige's former dirty-cop lover Tom Ryan (Joseph Gian), which 
Jacobs explains as a money issue.

  "We feel Knots has life in it yet.  In the last years of Dallas, it didn't 
matter what you did, they were sick of it.  But they're not sick of Knots, they
're angry at it.  And now I've taken it as a challenge to keep it alive."

    Jason heard Brian say that Sumner is Meg's father.  So now
    Jason knows.  This secret may become harder to keep.  I didn't
    watch Knots back when Greg gave Meg to Mac and Karen but other
    people must also know, right?  Like Val and Gary for instance.
    
    Yea! to bringing Tom back!   Yea! to getting rid of Pierce!
    
    That should liven things up a bit.
    
    Nancy

    Nancy-->  Yes, Val and Gary do know about Meg.  I think
    mostly everyone knows that Meg was Greg's, but Meg. *^)
    
    I am looking forward to a better storyline coming up with
    the info. that someone just put in about the writers
    trying to get this show going more.
    
    Even thought IMHO with them trying to possible adding
    Tom would make it a whole lot better for me. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    
         

    Future happenings from USA TODAY hidden behind a form feed
    for those of you who don't want to know - don't read on.
    
    ***** SPOILER WARNING *****	
    
    
    
    
    I was just reading in USA TODAY that KNOTS has been dropping
    in the ratings.  One of the reasons is that they have all
    new writers and the head writer thinks this years shows have
    been terriable.  They are planning on making things a lot
    more exciting.  Viewers hate Paige and Pierce together and
    they are planning on making Pierce a bad guy.  They are
    going to have the ocean project fail.  Viewers didn't like
    the scientist and whats-her-name together so I guess they
    will change that.  And viewers want Tom back.  Apparently
    it was a question of money but maybe they will try to get
    him back.  So look for things to heat up before the end
    of this season.  Thank goodness!
    
    Nancy

     I agree with the head writer. I wasn't sure if it was the writing
     or the directing to make Knots stink so bad this year, so I'm
     not surprised that the writers have all left. And interestingly
     enough, as I've lost interest in Knots I've become addicted
     to Homefront! Now I know why. Has anyone seen it? It's like a
     soap based in the '40s. This week they did a Knots Landing classic,
     2 separate conversations about the same subject going on at once 
     with their dialog coinciding as they swapped back and forth between 
     scenes! 

     Well, we'll see what tonight brings.

  Pat

    Hi Pat,
    
    I'm hooked on Homefront, too.  I just wish it came on earlier!!!!
    
    /red

    Funny you should mention it.  I rarely miss an episode of Homefront...
    had no idea why I was so drawn to it.  Now I know.  I just hope they
    put some life back into Knots, soon.
    
    Jan
    
    

    
    
    
    I'm another Homefront fan!!  I love the double conversion thing they
    do!!  There's a note on Homefront in the TV conference, #1144 I think.
    
    Anyway, did anyone watch last night?  I think the show is starting to
    get a little livelier.  What's with Greg's new do...he's dying his
    hair darker or something...I don't like it.  Victoria seems to be very
    "unstable"...I can't believe what she did in Paige's apartment.
    
    Next week's show looks like a great one!!!!
                                        

    Did you guys get a load of Paige's red outfit last nite??  What in the
    world was it?  The show was okay last nite but the previews look even
    better for next week.
    
    Tricia

    
    	Could someone give an update?  I was exhausted and fell
    	asleep on the couch, therefore missing Knots.
    
    	Thanks
    
    	JJ
    

    I thought Paige's red outfit was beyond the Valley_Of_The_Wierd!
    I'm like totally sure that it was supposed to be sexy but it
    was tooooo bizare.    It was like a cut-out window horizontal
    slit in front showing cleavage and another slit in back showing
    her back.  I wonder if dc saw it.  It would probably give him
    a coronary.  It might even take his mind of hot-lips-Gloria from
    AMC.
    
    Did everybody notice how much older Greg is looking?  I really
    noticed it when they showed clips of him and Meg from when Meg
    was a baby.  I think he is looking pretty bad.
    
    Nancy                                         
    

    
    Actually I think Paige's outfit was 2 pieces. A tank style "cat suit"
    with a short cropped above the bustline turtlenck. Because the
    turtleneck was soooooo short it showed the curved neckline of the tank
    cat suit thus showing some skin and looking really stupid. She has
    either worn this outfit or something very similar to it cause I
    remember another outfit in the past that had the same look.
    
    Patty

Can someone put in what was in the previews for next week. I  turned off the
tube before the previews.

	Julie

    Preview for next week...(behind a spoiler)
    
    
    Let's see....Val talking to Karen frantically saying that Gary is
    pouring everything they have into the project that is desperately
    failing.  Karen (looking upset) in Greg's office asking Greg "just exactly 
    what is he doing in regards to Meg" and Greg replying that he is merely
    keeping a close watch on his daughter.  And then something about Gary,
    Paige and a police officer (I think) standing outside of Pierce's
    empty car near the ocean.  
    
    Then finally...Victoria at Paige's door saying...
    
    V - "We're both going to need to deal with this"
    
    P - "What are you talking about?" 
    
    V - "Pierce is dead"
    
    Looks that a real good one!!!
    
                            

    
    
    	Yeah, but what happened in the 12/5 episode?!
    
    	Please?
    

    I haven't watched Thursday's show YET so I can't give an update.
    
    BUT.... Knot's is going on hiatus for a month so their new writers can
    get the show back on track.  Seems the writers they brought in this
    year just didn't grasp the stories like the old writers so the new
    writers are out and NEW writers are coming in.  (confused yet??)
    
    I don't remember them (HNN) saying when it would go on hiatus.
    
    bk
    

    I have a question.....even though Greg is Meg's natural father...I am
    assuming that Mac and Karen legally adopted Meg....is there anything
    that can be done to get Meg back to Greg?
    
    I want to know how scary victoria got into paige's apartment? they
    really could take this story line a far way. We all know that Pierce is
    not dead (rats)...afterall, how many people do you know in soap opera
    land have just walked into the ocean and kept on going????  
    
    I realize this is soap land, but can't people just come clean and admit
    things about their past? you know that Victoria is going to spill the
    beans to greg at some point
    
    I wonder if they will get together, oh right can you see Victoria as
    mother of the year?????  
    
    
    peg

    Re: .401
    
    Yes, Mac and Karen legally adopted Meg a long time ago.  I doubt, in
    real life, there is anything Greg can do...but as you said...this is
    soapland!!
    
    I don't know how Victoria got into Paige's apartment...she probably
    seduced the bldg manager or something.  
    
    I can't wait to see what is going on with the Pierce/death story line. 
    Maybe he wants everyone to beliive he's dead so he can go start fresh
    somewhere else.
    
    We'll see tonight....
    
    
    

    I seem to recall their wanting to adopt Meg, but not completing the
    process for some insane reason, or another, so that could present a
    problem.  On the other hand, if they did adopt her, with Greg's $$$, he
    could bribe any judge in the county.

    
    I don't know about anyone else...but, If I came home and there was
    someone in my house (especially an old girlfriend) and the man nowhere
    to be found ...she never would have been allowed to waltz out of there
    without a word.  Paige should have stopped her ...found the man and gotten 
    to the bottom of it right then and there.  Or she could have at least
    called the police and had her arrested for breaking and entering.
    
    What whimpy writers....NO CONFRONTATION WHAT SO EVER!  Ugh.
    

    Re: .404
    
    I agree but I think Paige was so shocked by seeing Victoria in her bed
    that she didn't know what to say.  A good cat fight would have been
    great though!!!!
    
    Maybe there will be one tonight??!!
    
    

    Did anyone see the cover of the Star Magazine this week?  It has a
    picture of Paige with a caption that reads, "Save Knotts, make me a
    b*tch again!".  
    
    Things certainly have been pretty tame since Abby left and Paige
    mellowed.  Anne is actually _nice_ and Claudia seems harmless enough
    now that Steve is out of the picture.  We'll have to see how she deals
    with her daughter's little affair with Mr. Enviornment.  He kind of bugs
    me but I'm not sure why.
    
    We all know Pierce isn't really dead, however, I do want to know what
    this big secret is between him and Victoria!  Anyone want to take a
    guess?  Like maybe he has past relations with Greg or something?
    
    Looking forward to tonight!
    
    MJ*>

    Doesn't Pierce have nightmares about a sailboat flailing about in
    a storm with sails shredded, etc.?  Maybe whatever is in the past
    has to do with this.  Maybe he took someone out sailing and because
    of the storm he/she died and Pierce feels guilty.  Or, maybe he meant
    to kill that person.
    
    Could be anything since we don't know much about Victoria's or Pierce's
    past.
    
    Jan

    I agree with the noter who mentioned Paige not confronting that psycho
    like woman Victoria. I would have been sooooooo ticked off that I
    probably would have body slammed her to the floor, did a little clawing
    and asked if THAT was just as good for her....
    
    I have never seen Paige soooo wimpy before. Now that Pierce has come
    home and "confessed" everything to Paige, she just sat there and looked
    at him. I think it may start to heat back up with Paige and Greg. As he
    was leaving, did you see her check him out when he walked away. Greg
    seemed the only one to really bring the wickedness out in Paige...
    
    I too saw the rag news paper with Paige on the front. The show needs a
    good witch. Every good soap has one....All my kids has erica, one life
    has dorian.....
    
    and gary, get a life and realize that this tidal stuff is going no
    where....looks like the Ewing family is in for a bot of trouble. wonder
    if gary will start drinking again, thus bringing up another society
    issue....they have had rape, illeratacy, and I am sure countless
    others.
    
    we'll see......
    
    peg 

    
    Did anything good happen last night?  Or should I say ..did ANYTHING
    happen last night.
    
    ..missed it.
    
    el

    
    Please, someone I missed the show and need an update..
    
    Ellen

    well, lets try ....
    
    
    greg is getting very reflective about giving up meg.  he came over to
    mac and karens just to see how mage was doing.  mac is getting nervous,
    he contacts the lawyer who did the original adoption.  mac wants to
    make sure that it is airtight airtight.  he doens't tell karen that he
    is worried about this. later in the show the lawyer calls back and
    tells mac that since its been 5 years since the adoption, greg has no
    way of getting meg back! (sounds like foreshadowing of a plot line to
    me!)  karen in the mean time had gone to see greg at his office. she
    tells him how detrimental it would be meg if she found out.
    
    claudia sees karen coming out of gregs office and walks with her to the
    elevator. claudia knows something is up. remember she knows(but no one
    knows she knows) about meg.
    
    the police contact paige.  they found pierce's car at the beach. she
    calls mac who meats her at the beach.  the police had been asking paige
    if pierce would have just walked into the water and kept going, what
    kind of mood was he in.  she kept saying she didn't know.  they had
    that fight last week and he had just taken off.
    
    victoria shows up at paiges door with some old things of pierces.  she
    says that since pierce is dead now, these things are yours.  greg also
    comes by and tells paige about the sailing incident that peirce had.
    pierce finally shows up. paige awakens to find him siting at the end of
    the bed.  he confesses about the sailing incident to her. he says that
    he and a girl had gone sailing, there was a storm and she drowned. what
    he said he didnt' tell the police was that he had been drinking and
    couldn't have helped the girl.
    
    there was a party at the radio station for anne. she found out that
    benny wasn't invited. she said either he was invited or she wasn't
    going.  benny was there, he brought these 2 bimbos to make anne
    jealous. the bimbos were talking in the bathroom and anne overheard.
    seems they are working for a loanshark who is looking for benny. anne
    rushed out to warn benny. they run out of the party. as they were going
    down the stairs, benny bumps into 1 of the waiters. benny does a tumble
    down the stairs. as anne is kneeling next ot him, he says that he can't
    move.  she yells for an ambulance.  he then tells her that he is fine
    and he is going to sue the radio station for mucho bucks!  she kicks
    him and walks away.
    
    i'm sure there was more, but i'm getting tired......
    
    	ann

    Can someone please tell me what they showed for previews of next week.
    I left the room, and when I came back it was over.
    
    Thanks,
    Cheryl

    
    Ann, 
     Thanks for the update!  Can anyone add more???  I missed it too.
    
    THANKS!
    
    julie v.

    Ann-->  Great Update. *^)
    
    All that was missed was Val was talking to Karen about her
    feelings of discomfort towards the project that Gary is
    working on and the money he is putting into it.  Karen
    tells Val she must stick by Gary considering everything
    that they have been through.
    
    Val goes to make up with Gary as he is busy working.
    They both make up and then Gary says he is going to put
    the house up as calateral for his project.  Val is VERY
    upset again, they are back where they started from again.
    
    Gary is going way overboard with this project and getting
    to be obsessed with this whole thing.
    
    Next week previews::
    
    It shows Meg with Greg and her asking him if he is her
    uncle.
    
    Paige is upset with Pierce saying he should have told
    something her knew with the project that costs Gary
    money.
    
    That is all I think they showed. *^)  Hope it helps. *^)
    
    Tracey
    
    
                             

    I only caught the last 15 minutes of the show, but I do believe that
    Pierce is starting to come unglued! he belongs with victoria...they are
    a bunch of wacko cases.....I can't see him being with Paige much
    longer.
    
    Can anyone tell me what I missed earlier in the night? Next weeks
    previews seem okay.....Pierce is beating up on the professor for
    something, Paige tries to break it up
    
    Looks like gary is going to loose his house, shirt and everything else
    when the house goes up for mortgage for the Tidal Energy project....and
    Victoria tells Mac that the last woman that Pierce loved this way like
    he loves Paige, ended up dead.....hhmmm....maybe it really wasn't a
    boating ACCIDENT at all, and Pierce wacked out again and got rid of the
    woman......maybe Tom will ride in on his white horse and save
    Paige...or maybe Gregg will get back together with Paige.....
    
    Santa, all I want for Christmas is TOM tied up under my tree.....hubba
    hubba!
    
    peg

    I don't have a full update but for those of you wondering what Greg
    said to Meg read on....
    
    
    
    
    Meg and Karen baked some cookies.  Meg then heads over to bring Claudia
    some cookies.  She rings the doorbell and there's Greg.  They are
    sitting on the couch (Claudia is in the kitchen).  Meg asks Greg....
    "do you have any children?"  Greg replies..."me noooo!  I hate kids"
    
    Karen goes to see what's taking Meg so long and of course gets po'd
    seeing Greg alone with her.  She gives Greg the evil eye and takes off
    with Meg....with Claudia standing there with her all-knowing smirk.
    
    ...Rania
    
    
    P.S.  Does Claudia know Meg is Greg's or does she got a hunch?

    Re: .416
    
    Yes, Claudia figured out that Meg was Greg's back when Greg was in the
    hospital.
    
    I also missed most of the show so any updates would be appreciated!!!
    
    Thanks
    

    Let's see what else I can remember....
 


    Christmas day the Mackenzie's take Jason to the airport.  When they
    come back from the airport Jason calls to let them know that his flight
    was delayed.  He wants to postpone his trip but Karen drives out to the
    airport to talk with him. She says she understands that he wants to
    hear from his father, to know that he cares about him but that won't
    happen...Jason needs to forget about him so he can move forward with
    his life.  Jason can't let go of his feelings for his dad. (I may have
    done some major paraphrasing but I was half asleep so maybe I didn't
    hear things right)

    Katie and the Prof. are over Claudia's.  Claudia is surprised that he
    gave up his tenure to do the Tidal Energy project.  They then go to
    Greg's and have dinner.  Katie and Claudia go do the dishes while the
    guys talk.  Greg wants to make sure he cares for Katie.  He starts
    talking about TE but the Prof. gets mad. Greg asks if he wants to know
    about Gary's loan status... the Prof. says it is none of his business. 
    As Katie and Prof. drive home he tells her that Greg really cares for
    her.

    Gary goes ahead with the loan, we don't know yet if it got approved. 
    He storms in the bank to ask why it's taking so long and the bank guy
    says it is because they aren't sure about his partner.  Gary finds out
    about Pierce's boating incident and tells the bank guy that he'll vouch
    for Pierce's character.  Then you see Gary yelling at Peirce telling
    him he should have told him everything beforehand.  Peirce says that
    now Gary knows all there is to know about him(...yeah right!!!  They'll
    probably find out Pierce was locked up at sometime with the way he's
    starting to act!)

    And then there is Paige.  She's still mad at Peirce but he joins her
    and her family for dinner.  Back at her apartment shes talking with her
    mom on the phone thanking her for her present (it's a nightgown which
    is laying on her bed).   Pierce shows up with a present.  She dosen't
    want to accept but he says she can't say no.  He then goes on to say he
    can't believe she let Greg in the apartment.  He asks if she was
    wearing this (points to the nightgown) .... or maybe these (goes
    through her closet where more nightgowns are hanging)  ...  or maybe
    these (goes through her underwear drawer).  She's standing back and
    telling him to GET OUT!  He snaps back to normal and apologizes as he
    leaves.

    They had quite a few scenes with Meg last night.  She lost her two
    front teeth and was upset because Val's daughter said she was ugly. 
    Karen told her she wasn't and taught her a song only she could
    sing....All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth....my two front
    teeth....

    I think that's it....hope I got it right. ....Rania


    P.S.  Oh yeah...Michael called Karen
        

    
    Some classic lines from last night
    
    
    
    Greg was his old self last night. He had some funny lines.
    After Meg left, Claudia said something like "looks like 
    you'll be shopping for doll house furniture" to which Greg
    replied "Nope, Santa will bring the furniture, I have him
    under contract". 
    
    While talking to the professor, it was obvious that the prof.
    was P.O. that Greg thought that anyone can be bribed, or bought off.
    Greg, at this point says something like "Everyone's for sale, but ....
    don't worry, I'm not in the market for an oceanographer today".
    This is the Greg I remember. I hope they keep this up, sort of like
    a male Abby.
    
           

    
    Is Knots on tonight?  Has anyone seen any previews lately?
    
    ..el

    Lindquist-->  Yes, Knots is on tonight.  I read that tonight
    Karen and Mac are upset as Meg is missing.  It looks like it
    is going to be on a good one. 
    
    Can't wait to watch. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    

    
    
    	'twas ok.  Ya know, I really wish Jason hadn't left.
    	There aren't many good looking men on this show!  Does
    	anyone know if he plans to return?
    
    	Next week looks better!
    

    Well for those of you who need a update for last nights
    show here it goes..........
    
    
    Karen and Mac are at the table giving Meg breakfast as she
    doesn't want to eat her oatmeal cause it wasn't the way 
    that Jason use to fix it.  She tells them to add syrup,
    so they gladly swirl the syrup to her liking and she 
    eats it. *^)
    
    Claudia is in her house as she hears someone open her door
    up and she is startled as she looks around.  A guy appears
    and says don't you know me?!?!?!??  Claudia looks real
    puzzled as he says my name is ALEX.  
    
    Claudia doesn't know what to say as she says oh yes you
    were Rosa's son.  Alex says yes and before Rosa died she
    said she use to take care of your mother and then she
    told me if something happened to her that you would
    take care of me.
    
    Claudia doesn't know what he wants as he plops himself
    down on the couch and says he is going to take a nap
    and he would like something to eat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Claudia looks troubled as she says ok, but wanted to
    know what he really wants.
    
    Gary tells Val that he has taken the money that he has
    finally got from his house and put it towards the
    project as Val and him argue big time.  Val tells 
    him that he is getting in to deep and he better not
    do this cause they can loose the house.
    
    Gary gets upset with her and tells her that he knows 
    what he is doing.  Val then tells him that he doesn't
    go to his AA meetings and Gary gets on the defense and
    tells her this has nothing to do with AA meetings
    that is not his problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Just then
    Kate walks in on them.
    
    Val yells at her and tells her can't you see that we
    are talking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Gary then runs out
    of the room and Val is upset.
    
    Karen and Meg get home from the grocery store as 
    Meg runs over to Alex who is on the front step of
    Claudia's house.  She thinks it is Jason as she is
    alittle upset when she finds out he is Alex instead.
    
    Alex takes a liking to her as she asks who he is.  Karen
    comes over to him and apologizes for Meg bothering him
    and Alex then takes Karen's grocery's in for her.
    
    Gary goes to the project where before he arrives Paige
    is at work at Pierce comes in.  He tells her that he
    didn't want to wake her when he came in last night.
    She tells him that what made him think she wanted him
    to come in at all.
    
    He then apologizes again as he tells her how many times
    can he apologize as she tells him to stop cause she
    doesn't give second chances.  Then Gary walks in and
    tells them he has a check as Pierce tells him that
    they need the check to keep the project going.
    
    Paige tells Gary not to do it as Pierce says if he
    doesn't put the money up then they are through with
    there chance to make it work.  Gary asks how long
    it will take and Pierce says 6 months.  Paige is
    upset with Pierce!!!!!!!!
    
    Meanwhile Kate goes to Greg to get advice about the
    birds and the bees and Greg feels funny about this.
    She wants to know  about some real personnel things
    about her relationship with her boyfriend.  Greg
    tells her not to worry as she tells him this is
    her first time with a guy and she has some quesitons.
    
    She comes home and he is running late and she wonders
    why he didn't call.  Then they get into a discussion
    on how he should try a bit harder for this project 
    cause Gary and Val are risking alot.
    
    Before they are about to leave he gets some mail and
    it doesn't show exactly what it says.  Kate comes out
    and wants to know if there was anything good in the
    mail as he says no and hides it from her.
    
    Karen and Mac get up and find Meg missing and are now
    frantic!!!!!!  They look all over as they find that
    Alex has her and does bring her home.  They are relieved
    that she is okay after calling the police.
    
    They then talk about how they should tell Meg about her
    real father when she gets alittle older.  They don't feel
    they should have to worry about Meg finding out about
    Greg being her father.
    
    The professor is then talking to Greg again on working
    for him and I do believe he is going to turn on Gary and
    the rest of them and work for Sumner.
    
    The last thing they show is Alex staring at Claudia
    while she is sleeping and Claudia wakes up and wants
    to know what he is doing in her room, as she tells 
    him to GET OUT!!!!!!!!
    
    Alex tells her how beautiful she looks while she is
    sleeping.  She tells him to GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    He does.
    
    One last thing happened Victoria goes to see MAc to
    tell him about Pierce and what happened in his past.
    Mac wants to know why she is telling him and she says
    she doesn't want what happened to Pierce's last
    girlfriend to happen to Paige.
    
    Mac is alittle concerned as he calls Paige and tells
    her he wants to talk to her.  They meet and Paige
    tells him that she knows about this.  Mac then says
    did you know that she was pregnant?!?!?!?
    
    Paige doesn't want to believe him as Mac says that 
    he has the Dr.'s name and she should call. Paige
    ends up calling by saying she is the dead girls
    sister and that was the end.
    
    It was a good show. *^)
    
    PREVIEWS FOR NEXT WEEK LOOK GOOD.......
    
    It shows Paige talking to Pierce about his other girl
    being pregnant and Pierce is talking to her and Paige
    is about to try to get away as it shows her almost loosing
    her balance and below her is a big stream of water.
    
    Pierce goes to Sumner and says he knows what he is doing
    to the Professor and how he tried to buy him out once
    before and he knows he got him to take his offer and
    he is going to pay for it.
    
    They also had something with Alex and Claudia where he
    looks like he is trying to do something to her and
    Claudia is upset.  I don't remember what they showed
    on them, if anyone could help out on the previews for
    Alex and Claudia that would be great. *^)
    
    That was about it. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    

    
    
    	One thing that was missed from .423
    
    	Victoria gets Gary to meet her (and I must say she looked
    	really cheap in her black and bronze spotted lycra dress).
    	She tells him that she doesn't really want to invest in
    	Tidal Energy but she wanted to warn him about Pierce.
    	She tells him to call the newspaper he used to own in
    	Detroit (?) and some other company he owned.  She then
    	said "then if you want (insert a kiss here!), call me".
    	This woman is seriously whacked.  Gary goes back to the
    	office and calls the places Victoria told him to.  Pierce
    	destroyed both places.  One woman said he almost completely	
    	destroyed the newspaper that was in her family for 80 years.
    	And she told Gary good luck and God be with you....or 
    	something like that.  Paige overheard it and told Gary she 
    	was sorry.  He said he had no one to blame but himself and
    	she said 'me too'.
    
    	JJ
    

    And another from last night....
    
    
    A friend of Joseph's (I finally remembered the Prof's name!) is in town
    and is supposedly an expert on tidal energy.  Well Katie and Joseph
    have him over for dinner and this Dr. tells him that something is
    definitely wrong with the design and to start over from scratch because
    it is possible.  Joseph tries to explain to him that they can't start
    over....work has already begun and a lot of money has been dumped into
    it already.  He's not a happy camper....
    
    Later they show you the Dr. speaking to someone on the phone telling
    him that Joseph is desperate and would take any offer.  And guess who
    he's talking with.......SUMNER!  What a snake!  Looks like the letter
    Joseph got (and hid from Katie) is an offer to come work for him???
                       
    Not a bad show....
                                           

    
    Just to clear something up.....Joseph ISN'T going to work for Greg.
    
    Re; the letter Joseph received ... it was from an Oceanography school
    somewhere on the east coast (NY?).  Claudia doesn't want Kate mixed
    up with Joseph so early in last nights show, she went to see Greg and
    told him of a position available at ____ Oceanography Academy and asked
    Greg to make a few calls and get them to offer Joseph the job.  This
    would get him off the project, leaving this area of exploration open
    for Sumner to pick up (since he's found out it can be quite
    profitable), as well as get Joseph out of town and away from Katie.
    Greg must have made those calls and that's what the letter was, a job
    offer.  Next week, he talks to Kate about leaving town because this
    job would be a great opportunity for him.....
    
    Also last night, After Gary and Val have the big blow out, Gary comes
    home later that night with a bottle of liquior, but doesn't open it. 
    Val sees it and begins to cry.  The next day Gary calls those other
    people Pierce was involved with and it's confirmed what a dirtbag
    he really is.  Gary realizes that Val was right and that he DID make a
    big mistake, he takes off and goes to an AA meeting.  Later you see him
    empty the bottle in his sink as Val watches, crys, and hugs
    him.....they're ok now!
    
    Also, I thought last nights show was one of the best all season. They
    seem to be picking up.  This new storyline with Alex and Claudia could
    be quite interesting.  Next weeks scenes look like Alex tries to rape
    Claudia.
    
    Hopefully, Knots is getting back to its old self!
    

    
    Mac was hot to dump egg on his face last night!
    
    ...when Mac and Karen were getting frantic looking around the house for
    Meg...Mac went wild, ran out of the house jumped in the car and headed
    for ...you guessed it ...Greg's.  He burst in on Greg yelling "Where's
    MEG!"  ...and Greg is confused...he didn't have her.  (he looked really
    bad...having no idea where she was ...AND blaming Greg) Greg told Carlos
    to call the police ...then the two of them ran out of the house and 
    drove like idiots to Mac's house ...to find Meg safe and sound.  
    
    Mac went just a tad overboard.  After that act by Mac Greg might start 
    thinking about his decision to let them raise Meg.
    
    One other little tid bit.... I think last night was the first time they
    showed Greg truly speechless...when Katie was pressing him for answers
    to her intimate questions.  I almost thought the womanizer might blush!.
    
    
    Question:
    
    About Claudia, she was trying to get some info from Alex and was 
    asking what his Aunt told him, I missed his answer ...and then it
    seemed that Claudia caught in her own web.
    
    Does anyone know what Alex told her?
    
    
    I thought their introduction of Alex was pretty good, he seemed really
    creepy.  They got my attention.
    
    Then in his next two sceens with Meg, they make him out out to be
    mister nice guy.  
    
    Then at the end of the show and in the previews ...he is back to weird 
    and creepy.  
    
    I wonder if they can't decide which way to go with the character....
    especially when there is some deep dark secret and Katie seems like she 
    may be about to dump/or be dumped by the professor.
    
    ...el

    
    I thought last nights show was pretty good.  
    
    That Alex guy is sooooooooo creepy.  Does anyone know what the story
    is with Rosa and Claudia?  
    
    kc
    

    
    .427&428 > Alex really didn't answer Claudia's question....he just said
    that Rosa gave him some people's names before she died and she mentioned
    that "Claudia would be willing to take care of him".  I got this eerie
    feeling when he said this to her, 'cuz he ended it with "So, take care
    of me" as he laid down on her sofa and said he was hungry!  Evidently, 
    Rosa nursed Claudia's mother until she died and maybe [somehow] took 
    care of Claudia too.  IMO I think Alex is there to get some kind of 
    payback and most likely has some deep dark secret of Claudia's to hold 
    over her head and will blackmail her.   Who knows....this guy could 
    just be a sycho out looking for kicks and is impersonating Rosa's nephew!
    
    We'll have to wait and see!                       

    So what does everyone think of Pierce now? There was some point when he
    was arguing with Joesph, that he had this evil grin on his face...and
    that slicked back hair...oh god, get rid of that...
    
    any predictions for Gary and Val? Since all the money is now gone, the
    ranch is mortgaged and I would assume that he and Val are broke, who
    will come to their rescue? Greg, maybe secretly, because Katie will ask
    him to? It would be nice if Abby could come back and buy the ranch, but
    we all know that won't happen.
    
    I was in stiches when Katie was talking to Greg about sex. When she
    asked him what he likes when he's in bed with women and he just sat
    there...I guess Greg can be kind of human afterall
    
    and this new person, Alex, sitting in Claudia's room watching her sleep
    and telling her to go back to sleep so he can watch. The writers are
    probably trying to set him up so that the people in Knot's Landing will
    think that he is an okay guy, like bringing Meg home, helping Karen
    with grocery's, etc, and then when Claudia starts to tell people about
    him, they won't believe her..kinda like the Steve story line. In fact I
    almost thought he was going to say, "don't you know me, I'm your son
    Steve" which really would have made Claudia go nuts. 
    
    Think back to all those dreams Claudia had when she was staying at
    Karen's...could Claudia have something to do with her mother's death,
    does Alex know of this. Come on folks, this is our chance to put on our
    thinking caps and try to figure this one out!
    
    
    peg

    
    
    I think you might have something there.  I wouldn't be surprised at
    all if Claudia had something to do with her mothers death.  
    
    Pierce ---  Cant' stand him!!!!  He is soooo gross!!
    
    Can't wait for Thursday.
    
    KC
    

    I think that Gary and Val will lose the ranch and move back into the
    end of the cul-de-sac again since Val never sold the old house right ?
    As for what Alex/Rosa had on Claudia, maybe Claudia was in the room
    with her mother who was terminally ill and suffering ... her mother
    reached for her bottle medicine, knocked it over, asks Claudia to help
    her and Claudia does nothing and watches her mother die (to relieve her
    from the misery of terminal illness) and Rosa watched or Claudia and 
    Rosa had planned it together ?  Just my opinion.
    Pierce is definitely not a good match up for Paige. I think that he and
    Victoria should get back together. The two of them are both psycho and
    seem to do well manipulating people.  They could have lots of fun
    toying with each other.  I wish they would get Sumner and Paige back
    together. I liked them as a couple. She mellowed him out and he seemed
    to make her more feisty.
    
    Julie
    

    Last nights show was GREAT!!!!!!!!!!  If anyone wants a
    update I will do one. *^)  
    
    I just loved the way it ended.  There are quite a few storylines
    opening up there.  I thought Claudia handled that Alex just
    great.  When she told that story of the poison and how the
    woman use to handle people I was laughing.
    
    She really got Alex back for his slimmy actions.  Now I
    wonder if the whole story will come out.  Next week 
    previews sounded like it would.
    
    Now Gary and Val I felt bad for last night.  It was real
    sad when he had to tell the people that was the end and
    it was even sadder that he has to suffer for Joseph's
    decision.
    
    That Pierce is just tooooooooooo wierd for me.  It gives
    me the creeps when I look at him.  I can't stand him one
    bit.  Victoria has not been on the past couple of weeks,
    I am sure that she will be on soon though.
    
    Isn't Knots suppose to be on a Hiatus soon?!?!?!??!  I
    thought someone in this file had mentioned that.
    
    I also saw in the Episodes magazine that Victoria
    (Marcia Cross) was ex-Kate on OLTL.  Was that what
    someone else said?!?!?!?!?  Was she any good on that
    I mean was she a good actress on there?!?!?!?
    
    One last thing I wonder what they are trying to do by
    having Meg be that dancer, what storyline can that
    have in the show?!?!?!?
    
    Julie is gone too, that is wierd that she would finish
    school out by relatives that she hadn't seen in years.
    One way to get rid of her for the rest of the season.
    
    The show was good though, I can't wait until next week
    when it comes back on. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    
    

    
    UGH!!!!   I fell asleep with about 15 minutes to go.  I can't believe
    it!  
    
    Tracey - Please update.  The last thing I remember was Alex breaking
    one of Claudia's sculptures.  
    
    KC
    

    We set the VCR last night and it never went off!  If someone in the
    MK01/MK02 area taped it and wouldn't mind letting us borrow it please
    contact either myself or my wife.   Thanks.
    
    AIMHI::JUTRAS 264-5343
    CIVIC::JUTRAS 264-4243

    If anyone could do an update, I'd really appreciate it.  I had
    the tape machine set to tape but is was taping soaps all day on
    channel 7, since I couldn't get home to reset the cable box, I
    taped Prime Time on channel 7 instead of taping Knots Landing on
    channel 5.  For some reason I can't tape a channel the cable box
    isn't set on.  I'm not sure why.
    
    Jan

    Here is the update for Knots for 1/9....
    
    Gary is talking to Kate about how upset he is and she too
    is upset about Jospeh's decision to do this to everyone
    on the Tidal project.
    
    Kate goes home and Claudia comes to visit her to tell
    her she is sorry she is hurting over this.  Claudia
    tries to get her to go to dinner, but Kate wants to
    be alone.
    
    Claudia goes back home where Alex has her read a 
    "Dear John" letter and has her sign her name to it.
    She does this out of protest and Alex goes to Karens
    and Macs and is alone with Karen.
    
    He is showing her the letter and Karen feels bad for
    him.  She wants to know if he has told Claudia about
    this and he says no, he didn't.  It never really
    said what the letter said, but it seems it could be
    about a girl who is in love etc.....
    
    Just then Claudia realizes what Alex is doing and
    has taken that letter to show Karen, so she barges
    in on them and tells him that he has a call.  Alex
    knows why she is there and goes along with it and
    excuses himself.
    
    Claudia goes back home and Alex is not happy about
    her coming over to Karen's.  He is holding onto some
    real expensive art pieces and asks Claudia what they
    are and she starts to tell him as he throws one on
    the floor.
    
    Claudia is very startled by this as he asks about one
    other one that he is holding.  This one is a very nice
    art piece and Claudia runs to grab it right before it
    hits the floor.  
    
    Alex then tells her she will have to learn not to do
    that to him again, by following him to Karens.  He
    has his hands by her mouth and she tells him twice
    to take his hands off or she will scream.
    
    He decides he will take his hands off and then we
    assume they go there own seperate ways.  Claudia
    is alarmed by his strange behavior.
    
    The next night they are having dinner and Claudia
    and Alex are eating a salad and she asks if he 
    wants somemore dressing on his salad.  He tells
    her he does and she gives it to him.
    
    She then tells a story of how way back woman that
    wanted to get back at other people use to put some
    arsenic (poison) in that person's food and watch
    the person get real nautious and die and noone
    would no what happen.
    
    Just then Alex realizes that she is talking about
    what she had supposedly done and he starts coughing
    and gagging on his food as he runs to the bathroom
    to spit up his food.  Claudia has a smile on her
    face as she tells him don't you ever do what you
    did to me last night or you will be sorry!!!!!!!!
    
    Paige was taking a shower while she hears a noise
    and gets out only to find her chain from her door
    still moving as if someone had left, but noone
    was in her room.  She is startled.
    
    She is there when Gary tells everyone at the Tidal
    Energy project that he has to let them go because
    there is nomore project.  Val is there with the
    kids to be there for Gary and they leave all together.
    
    Paige tries to get info from the Dr.'s office where
    Pierce's exgirlfriend had went.  She had pretended
    to be her sister.  They would not give her much
    info, so she goes to the library to research the
    case and what happened.
    
    Paige finds out that Pierce's girlfriend was pregnant
    and the charges were dismissed for his boating 
    accident, but is upset because what she is finding
    out about him, she never knew.
    
    Paige was at the dismissal of the Tidal Energy people
    and is confronted with Pierce as she tells him she
    has learned about his old girlfriend carrying her
    baby.  Pierce is upset about this as he brings up
    Sumner to her and then starts to explain the accident
    as he makes her look down at the LARGE POOL of water
    below, she is very scared!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Claudia talks with Greg about how he could have 
    Joseph accepting a job that is sooooo close to Kate.
    Greg tells her that he did what he was suppose to
    do get him away from Tidal Energy and he sees no
    harm in them being close to each other.
                               
    Claudia is not happy.
    
    Claudia is in her room late at night and she hears
    the door knob turning and someone trying very hard
    to get in her apartment.  She is very frightened
    as they keep pounding and the only thing holding
    the door from opening is the chain!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Frank gets back from his Holiday trip and is greeted
    by Mac who finds out that Julie is not coming back
    cause she is going to finish the school year with
    her relatives.
    
    The previews looked good!!!!!!
    
    Greg is talking to Paige about coming back to work
    with him.
    
    Claudia and Alex are having a conversation about him
    telling everyone what happened to Rosa.
    
    This is all I can remember.

    
    Great update ...
    
    But I think you meant Paige not Claudia in one paragraph....
    
    > Claudia is in her room late at night and she hears
    > the door knob turning and someone trying very hard
    > to get in her apartment.  She is very frightened
    > as they keep pounding and the only thing holding
    > the door from opening is the chain!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
    You're right about this week's show, looks good.  Looks like Paige and
    Ann are going to be fighting over Greg again.
    
    Oh and about Pierce.  It's too bad that he's so obsessed with
    destroying Greg, no one is ever going to take him seriously with the
    way he acts.  Too bad he's right...
    
    ...Rania
    
    

    so, who saw the show last night?????? 
    I did feel bad for Gary as he was walking around the ranch when it was
    being auctioned off, but I kept saying to myself that it was his own
    fault. Everyone tried to stop him but he didn't listen. 
    Not that anyone on Knot's ever works, but what are Val and Gary 
    going to do for a job???
    
    many questions are starting to come up....biggest one of all is.....behind 
    a form feed for those who didn't see it
    
    
    
    
    Is claudia really sumner's sister.....it just seemed weird that Pierce
    had circled Claudia's name on his monstrous sheet of paper in his room
    and claudia did not seem to concerned about what's hisface threatening
    to go to Gregg and tell him about the 'alleged murder"....hhmmmmmm
    
    Plus next week when Pierce meets with Claudia, there seemed to be
    something really fishy......
    
    so what do ya think??
    
    peg
    

    I think Pierce want to get the inside scoop on Greg through Claudia. 
    I'll work on an update.  It was a pretty good show last night.
    
    Cheryl

Gary walks into the kitchen where Bobby and Betsy are building a "house" with
the kitchen chairs.  They are stocking it with food and their things.  Gary
asks them what's going to and they tell him that's where they are going to live
when he sells the ranch.  Gary explains to them that they are moving back to
Seaview Circle and the kids wonder if all their things will fit because the
house is smaller.  Gary assures them the things will fit and the kids are
happy.

Gary is showing the auctioneer around the ranch.  Everything will be auctioned
off except for the contents of the house.  Even the equipment from Tidal Energy
will be sold.  The auctioneer is confident that Gary will get good money from
all the sales.

Mac and Frank are trying to find a way to save the ranch and discuss this with
Val and Gary.  They all decide that the ideas won't work.  Mac doesn't want to
give up but has to.

Karen goes into work and has an idea to fill Tues. "Open Mike" show.  Her boss
has different ideas.  He wants to do a story on the Ewing's fall and that Gary
has lost his share of his family's inheritance from the oil business.  Karen is
appalled and says absolutely not.  These are her friends and she will not
exploit them just for ratings.  The boss backs down, too easily, and Karen
senses this.  But she drops it and goes into work.

Ann is at the studio taping a promo for "Tell Me About It".  When she is
finished, the producer tells her that she had two phone calls.  One didn't
leave a name but said he would pick her up at 8:00 tonight.  Ann tells him she
know who that was.  The second was her daughter telling her they could meet for
lunch tomorrow.

Meanwhile, Claudia walks into her house and Alex is lying around on the couch
with a big package on one of the chairs.  Claudia goes to open it and Alex
stops her saying it's from him and it's a surprise.  She has to wait to open
it.  Then his tells Claudia that her daughter called, they can meet for lunch
tomorrow.  Claudia tells Alex to get his feet off the couch.

Ann and Greg meet at 8:00 and go to an Italian Restaurant that is closed to a
private party.  Ann suggest a place where they need no reservations.  She takes
Greg to a pool hall and the talk very suggestively to each other while playing
pool.  Greg is very interested and asks her back to his place.  She doesn't go
though.

The next day, Paige and Anne are having lunch as are Claudia and Kate.  Knots
had one of their famous scenes where they switched back and forth to each
couple who were both talking about the same things and finished each other's
sentences.  Basically, it was Claudia saying that she didn't think Joseph was
right for Kate, and Anne saying the same to Paige about Pierce.  Then, Alex
shows up at the restaurant and interrupts K&C's lunch.  Claudia introduces them
and Alex let's Kate know that he is living with Claudia.  Alex then invited Kat
over to her mother's house for a little party to thank Claudia for her
hospitality to him.  She will try to make it.  Kate is shocked, partly because
Claudia didn't tell her and thinks that it's unnecessary to Alex to be living
with her.  Claudia explains she owes it to Rosa Barth to take care of Alex.

Paige and Anne then talk about Greg.  Anne tells Paige that Greg donated $800
for a date with her.  Paige is stunned, you let Greg buy you for $800??  Anne
says that a celebrity has to do these things, give something back to the public
for charity.  Paige laughs and asks what charity it was.  Anne says she has
forgotten.

That night around 6:00, Paige goes to visit Greg in his office.  They end up
talking over drinks and appetizers.  Greg asks her to come back to work, her
old office is still accross the hall.  Paige says to double her salary.  Greg
laughs and says she wasn't worth half of what she was making before, jokingly. 
Paige tells him to make her a real offer as she is walking out the door.  Then
he tells her that he will take her to St. Moritz for a month.  She tells him he
wouldn't survive it and leaves.

Val is looking around the house in the cul-de-sac and has a memory of the first
time she moved into the house.  It was actually from the first episode of
Knots, with Richard Avery coming over to welcome them to the neighborhood.  He
flirted with her a bit but ended up helping her out by going and getting her a
lightbulb because she had no lights.  Then she walked around the house
remembering her mother's song and the kid's birthdays and happy memories.  Then
she is startled by Alex, who was concerned because the door was open.  He
introduces himself and they talk about Val experiencing deja-vu.  That this was
exactly what happened when she moved into the house the first time.  She then
remembers that she has no lightbulbs again and Alex offers to go and get her
one.  He also offers to help her move in.  He is looking at her in a very
lustful way, but Val, of course, doesn't see this and accepts his help.

That night, everyone gathers at Claudia's house for Alex's party.  There's Mac,
Karen, Alex, Claudia, Kate, Val, Gary.  Alex is going around asking everyone if
they want a cookie.  Then he mentions to Claudia something about drinks for
their guests and she tells him that it's his party.  No one gets any drinks. 
Then, he asks for everyone's attention and Mac's help in getting the package
onto the mantle of the fireplace.  He is about to unveil his thank you gift to
Claudia.  They unwrap and it is a portrait of Claudia's mother.  Everyone
mentions how wonderful the thought was and how beautiful Claudia and Greg's
mother was.  Claudia pretends to be enjoying it but really doesn't like it. 
Alex is trying to get close to Kate but she rebuffs him.  Val tells him to give
Kate some time, she has been though a lot.  Mac mentions what a nice kid Alex
is.

After everyone leaves, Alex asks Claudia if she enjoyed herself.  She says no
and asks what he thinks he has on her.  Alex tells her that he was there when
her mother died.  He was a kid, but he saw her mother reach for her pills and
that they were knocked on the floor.  He saw Claudia leave them there and not
try to help her mother.  Claudia says that he was just a kid and no one would
believe that.  He tells her that he just has to tell Greg.  That would be
enough.  Claudia looks scared.

There was a fill in about Frank and Karen talking about Julie and Jason, and
how they miss them.  Karen was having Frank to dinner and they were testing the
spaghetti sauce, saying it needed something.

Pierce has rented a room under an assumed name.  He is starting to looking into
all of Greg's business and dealings.  He has newspaper articles tacked around
the room, a computer, he's making phone calls, he even has made a family tree
etc.  He then circles Claudia's name on the family tree.

The day of the auction arrives.  Val, Gary, Kate, Bobby, Betsy and Karen are
there among all the buyers.  It was like a circus.  Everything is selling well
but Gary is devastated.  Karen spots the station truck and runs over to see
what's up.  It's her boss, saying that she can refuse to cover the story, but
he's going to do it.  Karen yells at him saying that these are her friends and
she will not let him exploit them.  If he does, she quits.  He is stunned by
her statement and says is that the way it's going to be.   Karen says she has
been thinking about it for months and yes, she quits.  He then goes forward
with his crew but Karen grabs a piece of equipment and throws it to the ground. 
She says he will do this over her dead body.  He backs down and leaves with his
crew.

Gary and Val are talking in the kitchen when they hear someone banging on the
piano.  Gary says, there's not supposed to be anyone in here.  Then two women
appear in the kitchen and begin asking about whether or not the desk is antique
and one won't buy if it's not.  Gary begins to yell at them, telling them to
get out, this is their home, they have no right to be in there.  Val quietly
ushers them out, apologizing.  Then she turns to comfort Gary and hugs him. 
They go outside for the final bidding, the land and the house.  It starts at
$3 million and Val, Gary, Kate, Bobby, Betsy, and Karen are standing in the
background very teary-eyed.  Then, Gary walks through the crowd with his head
down and the bidding is at $6.4 million as he is walking away.  The end.

Scenes for next week:  Pierce is yelling as Paige and pushing her around,
saying "you didn't waste any time, did you."  Then he punches her and knocks
her up against a table where she hits her face.

Pierce and Claudia are having either dinner or lunch together and he is talking
to her about Greg.

I know Mary Lou Retton is guest starring next week as a gymnastics coach Greg
hires to coach Meg.

Cheryl

    Last night they had a quick comercial for this weeks show.  I was not
    really concentrating on the TV at the time but I did see Greg, then a
    quick shot on Paige, who looked like she had either been in an accident
    (not serious) or had been slapped around, then a quick shot of Pierce,
    who had a wild look.  


    Did anyone else see it?

    I saw part of that commercial.  Was I mistaken or was part of it
    in black and white.  It was the part where they show Paige and then
    Pierce.  It was a very effective attention getter.
    
    Jan

    Did anyone notice the heavy southern accents that both Val and Richard
    had in the flashback? It's amazing how these things disappear over time!

    Anywho, I read somewhere (TV guide maybe) that when the Producer was
    asked how he knew Knots had a problem he told them that all the
    waitresses at this restaurant he has lunch at are addicted to Knots.
    And that when he went in and they weren't all talking about it he
    he knew there was trouble.

    It also said they are going back to storylines revolving around the
    core characters. Since the Pierce/Paige romance didn't work he will
    now be a bad guy until the end of the season. Mac and Karen are
    going to have their marriage put to the test. And Gary and Val will
    be struggling with no $$. (Maybe Val should write a book, 
    "The Days of Whine and Roses")
                 -----

    Ya know, those accents disappearing are actually reasonably realistic.
    I live in the south and southwest for a large portion of my life and 
    when I moved to Maryland the accent I had softened after about a year.  
    Went back to Alabama for vacation and picked the blasted accent back up 
    within a week.  Took me a year to get rid of it again.  Here it is 17+ 
    years later and I've been in California all this time and I still notice 
    a trace of southern in certain things I say (especially if I've had a wee 
    bit of alcohol).
    
    Jan

    about the Paige/Pierce scene...wasn't it on last weeks previews where
    Pierce is in Paige's apartment and starts screaming at her that it
    didn't take her long to get back wqith Sumner, he hits her, she falls
    against a cabinet or something, possibly cuts herself and then looks up
    at Pierce who really looks like he is loosing it!
    
    should be an interesting show tonight. I think the show is starting to
    pick back up again which is good.....I wonder though is Gregg is going
    to be playing around with both Paige and her mother....last weeks
    previews showed gregg showing up at the studio with everyone gone and
    something about her going home with him. I think he wanted someone to
    play with....
    
    where's mort?
    
    
    peg

    I couldn't wait till tomorrow to enter this.  Wanted to get it in
    tonight but my other system is down.  How frustrating.  So, here 
    I am on another node.  This is a bit lengthy.  I may have gotten
    carried away but I haven't been able to update in so long I thought
    I'd give it a shot tonight.
    
    Jan
    
    Meg is competing in a gymnastics competition.  Mac and Karen are
    in the audience.  Greg comes in the door with Mary Lou Retton.  She
    comments that Meg is really good.  They announce the scores and Meg
    has scored the highest at the competition.  Mac and Karen spot Greg 
    and she reminds Mac about what they discussed; that Meg has an Uncle 
    Greg.  She mentions that he brought a date and why would he do that.  
    They stand up to meet Greg and Mary Lou.  Introductions are occurring
    when Meg comes over and sees Mary Lou and gets all excited.  They
    run over to the high beam and chat.  She comes back in a few minutes
    and tells everyone that Mary Lou says she's going to teach her an 
    arial? on the high beam after everyone leaves.  Later Meg and Betsy
    have an argument over who is the better gymnyst and Meg snips at
    Betsy that Mary Lou Retton told her she could go to the Olympics.
    Betsy runs into the house crying.  Mac and Karen talk to her later
    about not hurting people's feelings.  By this time Meg and Betsy have
    already made up.

    The guy who bought Gary's ranch (Mr. Schmidt?) asks Gary to come work
    for him and manage the ranch.  Val doesn't think Gary should do it
    but he takes the job anyway.  The next day Gary is uncomfortable with
    the things the owner is planning to do with the ranch.  He offers his
    opinion on the prospect of growing their own feed but the guy doesn't
    appear interested in what he is saying.

    Victoria knocks on Pierces door.  He opens it and wants to know what she
    wants.  She says she wants to say goodbye.  While she is talking to him
    she looks into the apartment and sees all the newspaper clippings and 
    the white board with Sumner's name on it and wants to know what Pierce
    is up to.  He asks her if she has been with Sumner.  She says if he 
    wants to know if she slept with him, she didn't.  He says she spent time 
    with him and that she's the kind of person that hears things, watches
    and listens and gathers information she can use against people when she
    wants to.  She wants to know how badly he wants the information, she
    realizes he would sleep with her to get it.  She tells him to tell her
    how much he wants it first, then as he moves closer to kiss her she says
    "Lie to me".

    Paige comes home to find Pierce packing his things.  She wants to know
    how he got in because she had changed all the locks.  He wants to know
    if Sumner has a key.  They argue and he throws her against the dresser.
    She falls and hits her cheek on the edge of the dresser and turns
    towards him.  There is blookd on her cheek.  She cowers in the corner.
    He comes up to her and touches her hair; she turns away; he tells her
    the war with Sumner is just beginning.

    Ann is doing her radio show.  She's listening to a female caller
    talk about her new guy.  You see Greg listening to the show.  The
    caller talks about how comfortable she is with the guy, Ann fills
    with "it's as if you've known him for a long time."  I didn't get
    the whole conversation but it seems Ann is thinking of Greg.  The
    caller says "what should I do?"  Ann says "you tell me", then says
    the caller should not expect to change the guy and she should go 
    in with her eyes open.  It sounds as if she is giving herself the
    advice.

    Later Ann is taping promos for her Valentine's show.  Her studio
    people leave and she is alone in the studio.  Greg comes in and 
    turns down the lights and talks to her from the booth.

	Greg:	Someone is watching you.
	Ann:	Tell me about it, but, first turn the volume up, 
		its on the lefthand side.  Gently.
	Greg:	How 'bout that?
	Ann:	Perfect.  Now what did you say your name was?
 	Greg:	Let's leave names our names out of this.
	Ann:	Are you lonely?
	Greg:	No, I'm not lonely.  It's just that all my friends
		have already gone to bed.
	Ann:	Mine too.
	Greg:	So, this is it, huh, the magic kingdom.  I always 
		wanted to know how this works.
	Ann:	You want to know how it works.  Come on in.  I'll show
		you how it works.
  
    Greg goes into the studio and she stands and they kiss.

    NEXT SCENE:  The camera pans across a bunches of candles then up to
    the tub.  There are candles all around the tub.  The camera pans over
    Ann relaxing in a bubble bath with her eyes closed and a glass of 
    champagne in her hand, it pans down to her leg, then we see a man's 
    leg and next we see Greg in the tub.  Ann's foot is resting on his 
    chest and he has a cigar in his hand.  He chuckles and says "And to 
    think, I've always been a guy who hates surprise parties.

    Val talks to Karen about her concerns for Gary working at the ranch.
    She talks about selling her ring Gary gave her to take the pressure off
    Gary financially.  There was a filler scene later with Gary and Val 
    talking about their day.  Gary mentions the ranch.  Then the kids come
    in, they're hearing noises.  Gary and Val tell them to come up on the
    bed and Gary explains that each house has its own noise and that they'd
    get use to it.  The let the kids stay sleep with them.

    Mac and his partner (forgot his name) have bought a lottery ticket 
    together.  They think they've won but the partner can't find the ticket.  
    They rush home 'cause he supposedly left it in his blue suit.  They get 
    to the house and he can't remember where the suit is.  He had sent it 
    to the cleaners.  Then he remembers he picked it up and it is in the 
    hall closet.  They find the ticket and go back to the office.  Mac, 
    partner and secretary are all sitting there singing the ticket numbers 
    and drinking champagne.  Suddenly they stop singing and check the number.
    They didn't win, the last number on the ticket was different than the 
    last number of the winner.  The secretary admonishes the partner for
    not using the dictaphone and for writing down the numbers instead.
    She apparently misread the last one when she bought the ticket.

    Pierce runs into Claudia in the museum.  He asks her to lunch.  They
    discuss Greg.  Pierce mentions that he took a beating in the Tidal Energy
    project but that he learns from worthy adversaries.  He mentions some
    company that he thinks Greg might be getting into.  Claudia gives a non-
    committal answer but says that Greg is getting restless.  Pierce decides
    it is time to change the subject and compliments her on her lovely smile.
    She seems surprise but accepts the compliment.

    Later Claudia is talking to Greg and filling him in on the pediatric
    wing they are constructing in his name at the hospital.  Ann comes in
    and she and Claudia trade barbs about how well the foundation is doing
    since Ann left.   Ann and Greg leave for lunch, he wants italian, she
    wants chinese.  On the way to the elevator they run into Paige who is
    surprised to see her mother and asks what she is doing there.  Ann 
    tells her she is taking Greg to lunch.  She wants to know what happened
    to Paige.  Paige tells her it is just a bruise.  Ann gets into the
    elevator and says "You should put a steak on that, honey."  then the
    elevator door closes.  Paige turns to the camera and has a funny look
    on her face kind of like a combination of disbelief and surprise.

    Val goes to a jeweler and gives him her ring.  He looks at it and tells
    her that the diamond market is down and that the ring is not worth as
    much as it was originally.  She is unhappy about it but says it's okay,
    she'll take the lower amount.

    Gary and Bobby are working on the fence at the ranch (Val told Gary
    earlier that Bobby wanted to go with him after school one day).  Some
    guys drive up and ask Gary where the boss is.  They tell Gary they're
    there to talk about clear cutting the north? pasture.  Gary gets upset
    and storms up to the main house.  He has an argument with the new owner
    about cutting down all those ancient oak trees.  He tells the guy that
    he is ruining the land.  The guy tells him that it is his to ruin and
    that at least he pays his bills (the new owner wants to get his money
    out of the ranch since he has payments to make).  While Gary is arguing
    with the owner Bobby comes up and Gary yells at him.  He was supposed
    to stay in the truck.  When they get home Gary says he's sorry for 
    yelling and Bobby says he should have stayed in the truck.  Bobby goes
    in and Gary calls Val out.  As she comes out she sort of semi-hides
    her hands behind her then down by her sides when she sits down on the
    porch.  Gary wants to look at her hands.  She tries to explain to him 
    that she did it because she was trying to help.  He takes the ring out 
    of his pocket and puts it back on her finger.  She's surprised and wants 
    to know how he got it.  He tells her that the jeweler called because 
    she forgot to give him her social security number for he tax thing.  
    She hugs him and they kiss.  Betsy calls Gary and Val in to see the 
    castle she and Meg made (out of cardboard boxes I believe) they ignore 
    the calls and slip into the house and we see their feet through the 
    open front door as they walk quietly up the stairs.  Bobby calls for 
    dad and comes to the front porch.  He sees that they are gone, shrugs 
    and closes the door.  

    THE END

    Some guy is beating up Pierce.  He tells Pierce that Sumner wants
    him to stay away from Paige.
    
    Someone approaches Val to do a biography on Greg Sumner.
    
    Claudia is in the bath and (is it Alex or Andrew?) is sitting on
    the edge of the tub.  He says something to Claudia about his needs.
    
    Alex/Andrew (whatever his name is) is in Greg's office talking to
    Greg.  A second later they show Claudia in the office as "A" is 
    leaving.  He tells her Greg gave him a job.  Claudia has a shocked 
    look on her face. (In fact, if this was AMC she'd be clutching her 
    bosom in horror). 
    
    End of preview.
    
    Jan  (who thinks it's finally time to put her body to bed)

    
    Great update Jan!!!  Thanks, I fell asleep before the show started.
    Your update was so good, I feel like I watched it.
    
    Why would someone approach Val to do a biography on Greg?  Wouldn't it
    make more sense to go to Claudia?
    
    KC
    

    
    
    	re: -1
    
    	Because Val is already an established writer.
    
    	JJ
    

    I believe the writers really blew it with Gary and Val, when Val asked
    Gary how he found the ring he said the guy from the jewelry store
    called him because Val did not leave her SS# for tax purposes, but Gary
    had been at the ranch and Val was home unpacking so why/how would they
    call GreG?
    
    Other then that I loved the show, I just did not want Ann to end of
    with Greg I really wanted Paige to, if they are going to put Ann with
    Greg then they need to get TOM back on for Paige.  If anyone know the
    address to write to I will write and beg them to put Tom back on and
    take that gross looking Pierce off.  When he kissed that woman last
    night I almost got sick, he always kisses them with his mouth wide open
    and he slobers(?) all over them.
    
    I want Page to have more of a part..and for them to leavee Val and Gary
    out for a while.  I thought Val makeup looked terrible last night, her
    face is getting really thin...
    
    Oh well enough complaining for one day.

    Ooops, just read my update and noticed a lot of typos.  Sorry 'bout
    that.  I guess I'm just not as efficient at typing at 12:50 in the 
    morning while battle with kitties for space on the keyboard.
    
    Jan
    

    
    	Well according to the Star Magazine, there is going to
    	be a new rival for Paige.  And as irony would have it,
    	the actress was Nicolette's rival in real life while
    	they were in school.  The new character is going to be
    	a tennis pro friend of Kate's who goes after Greg and
    	Alex (who will end up being Kate's boyfriend by then).
    	The new character will appear in this week's episode.
    	FWIW - in the picture I saw, the actress looks a lot
    	like Nicolette except that she's brunette.
    
    	JJ
    

    Is Alex the guy that is staying with Kates mom.  Can not remember names
    right now?  
    
    Is Tom coming back?

    They asked Karen to do a biography on Greg.

    
    	Yes, Alex is the one staying with Claudia.
    
    	No word on Tom yet!
    

    RE;  Is Tom coming back???
    
    In the SOD they asked Joey Gian (Tom) if he would go back and his
    answer was if the circumstances and story were right he would go back. 
    But it sounds like Knot's hasn't asked him.
    
    bk
    

    will someone please tell me something? what was Claudia doing with
    Alex? Well let me rephase that.....I know what they were doing but
    someone wanna tell me why?????
    
    peg

    
    I was wondering the same thing Peg.
    
    
    
    We know Claudia dosen't Alex to go out with Kate but how would sleeping
    with him stop him?  I really don't think she would tell Kate she can't
    go out with him because Alex is hers!  Maybe she figures she can tell
    Kate they had a one night stand and this would turn Kate off about
    Alex?????  I would think she would be completely embarrassed for
    screwing around with him.  
    
    With the games those two play I would think he would have gotten up and
    made some comment about he wouldn't mess with her in a million years
    now that he got Kate to go out with him.  
    
    
    ...Rania
    
                               

    Peg and Rania-->>  I was liked SO SHOCKED when I saw Claudia
    seduce Alex!!!!!! It was like sooooooooo disgusting!!!!!!!!!
    I wondered what exactly she had up her sleeve.
    
    I was laughing when they started to kiss and she had said
    you're not going to go out with Kate and then she kept
    kissing him and he looked down at her and called her a
    ***ch.  I couldn't believe it yet I know if it was me
    and someone called me that I would have slapped him
    and kicked right out of my bed.
    
    Instead she said I know I am and continued.  It was very
    humurous.  Claudia can handle Alex, but I wonder now what
    she has to prove by doing that.  I mean if she does tell
    Kate that she slept with him what could that really do,
    I know I would be really upset if my mother would sleep
    with him.
    
    IMO Alex will end up with Kate's new friend they seem
    like they would really hit it off.  She is more his type
    than Kate is.
    
    Greg was tooooo funny when he was really cutting Alex
    down.  Alex backed off right away and would have been
    on his way since Greg now called his bluff on him 
    trying to blackmail Claudia.
    
    greg should have let him walk out, but Greg always has
    to be different.  I really like Greg though he is always
    good for a laugh. *^)  Greg really also shocked me when
    he hugged Claudia when she was crying about Alex and
    what had happened with her mother.
    
    Greg showed a side that I didn't think I would ever see
    towards Claudia.  He is always good for the unexpected
    and very unpredictable. *^)
    
    On the previews they showed Val interviewing Greg for
    her book she is to write on him.  I am surprised he is
    letting her do it, he didn't care at all.  He seemed
    somewhat happy to do it. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    
    
    
    

    I loved last nights show,  I would update but it is time for me to go
    and I am on beeper this week...I will update Monday if someone else has
    not.   The show is getting interesting again.  There were a lot of
    regulars who were not shown last night.
    
    Write again on Monday

    Can someone update at least the last half of 1/30's show.  My mom
    called and was very upset over a friend who has been diagnosed with
    cancer so I missed a major portion of the show.  Couln't reach the
    record button or I'd have a copy now to watch.
    
    Jan

    Who got shot in the previews for next week?

    
    
    	Could someone update for the 1/30 episode?  I wasn't home
    	and forgot to have hubby tape it for me.
    
    	Thanks
    1

    I can't remember alot from last week's show, but one preview that stuck
    out inmy mind was gregg getting shot (here we go again)....I think that
    gregg is with Paige, outside of a building....the camera pans to
    psycho Pierce as he is hiding behind a tree with a high powered rifle
    that has a light on it (can't think of the technical term)...but it
    helps the shooter place where the bullet is going to hit. Pierce then
    pulls the trigger...so who knows....maybe paige will suddenly move and
    end up taking the bullet......
    
    aahh, a thought....if Pierce does manage to hit Paige, then Sumner will
    go after Pierce, hopefully kill him, and then he is gone from the
    show!!!!!!!
    
    Alex is just sooooooo disgusting.....he went to pick up kate, and there
    was kate's friend answering the door in a towel....of course Alex is
    impressesed and starts talking to her....Kate walks in with her
    laundry, I think she was in the basement, and then they leave for their
    date...alex walks ahead of kate, does not even try to be gentlemenlly
    for her...he irritates me....
    
    you're right a few notes back, if someone calls me a B**ch, I go
    nutty...clawing someone eyes out is the just penalty for this...
    
    some more previews......pierce has mort right by the ???? well I am
    sure you can figure that out. you see, in pierce's snooping, he
    discovered mort was doing a bit of creative accounting and unless mort
    stole secrets from sumner to give to pierce, pierce was going to blow
    mort's cover....
    
    i think that's all.....
    
    peg 

OK, here's an update for last week on Knots.  I'm sure I'll forget some
things, so please don't hesitate to add!

Pierce has blackmailed Mort into providing him with information about
Sumner's next moves.  Pierce has information about Mort that would get
him fired.  I guess Mort took trips to Tahiti, and dinners, etc...  So,
Mort gets scared and helps Pierce.  Mort brings some information to Pierce
and Pierce burns it.  Mort told him that he risked his job to get the
information and asked why it was burned.  Pierce told him that he would've
risked his job if he didn't bring it, and he burned it cuz he just wanted
to make sure that Mort would bring it in the first place.  

Claudia tells Alex that she wants him out of her house by the morning.
She's sick of him.  Alex reminds her of the information that he has on her.
He told her that he's going to see Greg about it.  Claudia packs her bag
and leaves.  

At the office Greg and Paige are discussing business.  They notice that
there's a leak in the company (Mort).  Paige wants to continue working, but 
Claudia walks in and Paige leaves.  She goes to see Greg and tells him the 
whole story.  Their mother was very ill and she was in pain.  The medication 
that Claudia had to give her every day was the only thing keeping her alive.  
Her mother asked to be put of the misery.  One day, Rosa Barth was downstairs 
making dinner and Claudia said that instead of giving her mother her 
medication, she gave her asprin.  Claudia told Greg that she did it for 
their mother.  Greg hugged her and told her how brave she was.  Then she told 
him that Alex saw everything and has papers and signed afadavits (sp?) of this
happening.  Greg asked her what Alex wanted.  Claudia said, "a roof over
his head and three meals a day".  Greg told Claudia to send Alex in his
office at 11:00 the next morning.  Claudia went home and told Alex that
he had an appointment with Greg at 11:00 - and to wear a tie.

Alex goes to see Greg.  Paige is walking out of Greg's office and Alex
follows her with his eyes and says to Greg, "She's hot!"  Greg said,
what if she was my daughter, are you going to tell me that my daughter
has a great butt!  You dope!  Greg starts cutting him right down to size!  It
was hysterical!  He kept calling him "dope".  When Greg asked him what
he got out staying with Claudia and holding information over her head,
he said, "a roof over my head and three meals a day".  Then, Greg asked
him what his qualifications were.  Greg asked him if he could program
a computer.  Alex said, no.  Greg called him a dope again.  Anyway, it
turns out that Greg gave Alex a job.  When Alex leaves, Kate was picking
up Greg for lunch.  Alex set up a date with Kate for that night to go
to some old movie.  Greg told Claudia that he gave Alex a job - she
wasn't happy.

When Claudia got home, Alex told her that he had a date with Kate.  she
was mad and started yelling at him telling him that he wasn't going to
date Kate.  Later, she calls Alex into her room.  She has on a nightie
and pats the bed for Alex to come and sit down.  He does and she starts
kissing him.  Then she tells him that he won't date Kate, right?  He
then calls her a *itch and she says she knows it.  The next morning,
she's getting ready to leave for work and she kisses him on the cheek
and tells him to get up or he'll be late for work.  He wanted to make
sure that last night wasn't a one time deal.  she said, oh no.

Kate is at home and the doorbell rings.  It's an old friend from college.
She asks Kate if she could stay with her and Kate says yes.  She looks
around the apartment.  I don't trust this girl.  Anyway, they start
talking about her old boyfriends and Kate starts talking about Joseph.
Kate goes to get the laundry and this girl (forgot her name) goes to
take a shower.  The doorbell rings and the girl comes out of the bathroom
in a towel to answer the door.  It's Alex.  He just looks at her and
they start chatting.  Kate comes in and doesn't look too happy that her
friend is in a towel.  The girl leaves to get dressed and Alex and 
kate leave for their date.

Val, Gary, Mac and Karen go out to dinner and Val tells them about
the book she's wants to write about Greg.  Mac and Karen don't think
its a good idea because of Meg.  Val is upset.  She doesn't agree and
she said that she would never do anything to upset them.  Later on,
Mac tells Paige about it.  Paige then tells Sumner.  Sumner just
laughs.  Val is all depressed cuz no one is supporting her on something
she wants to do.  Gary and Val are in bed and Gary has a present for
Val.  It's a mini tape recorder so she can record her thoughts when
she's driving.  He told her that if she wanted to do the book, he would
be behind her 100%.  She's really happy.

That's all I can remember right now.....if anyone wants to fill in,
be my guest!!

Melissa

    
    Oh yeah, I wanted to say something about Kate's friend.  What we know
    about her so far is that she's an old tennis friend of Kate's.  She
    told Kate that things didn't work with one of her boyfriends and she
    needed to be around a friend.  It sounded like she slept around quite a
    bit.
                   
    I don't trust her either.  I didn't like the look on her face when they
    gave each other a hug.  
    
    
    ...Rania
    

    
    I got the impression that this girl is used to luxury and when Kate
    said "This is it" meaning the apartment is just a studio, no seperate
    bedroom or anything, the girl was kinda unbelieving that anyone could
    happily live like that. IMHO, that's what her expression said to me,
    but I still don't trust her.
    
    Patty

    
    Another thought on the shooting tonight...Maybe the woman with Greg is
    Anne??? In the previews we actually didn't see a face that I remember
    and since Greg and Anne have kinda started a thing, maybe it was Anne
    with Greg, and she's the one that gets shot. Just a thought.
    
    Patty

    
    
    	Thanks so much for the update!!  =)
    
    	re: -1
    
    	I think it was Anne with Greg and Paige.  I've seen the previews
    	a few times this week.
    
    	Gotta remember to watch it tonite!
    
    	JJ
    

    Of all things not to do on a Thursday night, I did it.  I went shopping
    and missed Knots Landing, so if anyone could give an update of what
    happened last night I sure would appreciate it.  Thanks in advance
    
    Pat
    

    
    
    I was falling in and out of sleep during Knot's but I had to write in
    about my favorite line of the last night's show.  It was when Paige
    went over to her mom's to pick her up for brunch.  Paige got Ann to
    hire Kate to work at the radio station, (later on we see Kate
    delivering mail).  Anyhow, Paige is telling her mother that Kate is a
    very nice person, nothing at all like her mother, she has "scruples". 
    And as Ann is closing the door she says  "boring...."
    
    Maybe I didn't do a good job explaining it but it made me chuckle...it
    was so Ann.
    
    I guess I'll give a mini-update on Kate and her friend (name?).  It's
    Kate's first day at the station and she's getting ready.  her friend is
    helping her out and they start talking about Alex and their first date. 
    Kate says nothing happened.  Kate's friend says she would love to do it
    with him, he's so sexy.  Kate is reluctant at first but at she leaves
    she says, with a smile, yeah, he's sexy.  
    
    Next day, Kate is at work and her friend shows up, seems she needs some
    cash.  Kate holds up some, saying this is all she has and her friend
    grabs the whole thing.  Kate then hands her Ann's mail and tells her to
    deliver it.  The friend (hope someone got her name) goes into the
    studio and sees Ann making some recordings, when Ann's done she goes in
    and hands her the mail, acts star-struck and asks if she can watch her
    record some more.  Ann says fine....I also want to add that this girl
    had on the miniest of minis, she made Paige look conservative!  She
    sure did look good though....bitch!
    
    Let's see, later on that night at Kate's apartment, Alex shows up with
    a bouquet.  Kate's not home yet, this girl asks if the flowers are for
    her, Alex says yeah and she laughs, telling him he lied.  Basically,
    she begins to talk suggestively and starts rubbing up agaisnt him. 
    Well Alex is psyhed and going right along with her.  Now if I remember
    correctly, she walks out of the kitchen and then you see Alex look at
    the red pumps on the floor and off into another part of the room. 
    Seems to me that they did the deed.  Can anyone who watched the show
    tell me if they showed fooling around later on in the show.
    
    ...Rania
    
                                                               

    
    The girl's name is Vanessa. I don't think she and Alex "did it". After
    we see her pumps left behind on the floor, Vanessa and Alex are sitting
    on the couch drinking wine (actually it looked like sherry) and he was
    rubbing her leg and they were just getting ready to start something and
    Kate came home. The kinda jumped apart and Alex said, "Hi Kate. Vanessa
    was just keeping me entertained." and Kate said kinda under her
    breathe, "I'm sure she was".
    
    More on Vanessa: She went back to the studio and told Anne that she had
    heard that she was doing a show on celebrities and she just happened to 
    have gone to boarding school with on of Princess Di's lady-in-waiting.
    Ann said,"And I'm sure you were on the phone with her just last night."
    Vanessa: As a matter of fact I was.
    Ann: And is she willing to tell all.
    Vanessa: Yes, for a price.
    And that was the end of that scene. Later you see Kate in the studio
    kinda neatening things up for Ann. Ann comes in and asks her what she's
    doing. She said she delivered some mail and some papers fell on the
    floor so she was just straightening up for her. Ann said her assistent
    would do that. Kate didn't know she had an assistent. Ann said she just
    hired her today and in walks Vanessa saying, "Katie, I got a job her at
    the studio isn't that great." Kate says Yea, great but you can tell
    she's not too happy. Vanessa says we can carpool, but her voice was
    just dripping with sarcasm.
    
    This girl is a witch!!!! She's taking Kate's boyfriend (if you want to
    call him that) she's one upping her at the studio. If I was Kate I
    would be tossing out of my apartment quick!!!
    
    Patty

    
    Greg, Paige, and Claudia go to lunch. Pierce is there with some guy
    telling him how he wants to "get Sumner". I missed some of this convo.
    When Pierce sees Greg and Paige walk in (he didn't even acknowledge
    that Claudia was there, acted like the 2 were alone) he went over to
    them and started in on Paige about flaunting the relationship in front
    of him. He tried to grab Paige and Greg wouldn't let him. The 3 went to
    sit down and you could see Paige was disturbed. Pierce and Greg had
    words with Pierce threatening Greg and then the management escorted
    Pierce out.
    
    Later we see Pierce buying a rifle with a scope that has the red laser
    beam so you know where your shot will go.
    
    It's late in the evening and Paige is working. Greg comes in and tells
    her to come home with him and have supper with him and Ann. At first
    she says no, but he convinces her to come along. They get to the house
    and they are talking outside. Paige doesn't really feel comfortable
    with Greg and Ann's relationship and she decides not to go in. At this
    point Ann comes out and asks what they are talking about. Well, Pierce
    has been watching from the bushes and has been lining up Greg/Paige in
    the laser sight. When Ann comes out he focuses on her. Greg sees the
    red dot on Ann (which I found kinda silly since she had on a red and
    black sweater so it would be hard to see). Greg pushes Ann down and
    then grabs Paige and starts turning so his body will protect her and as
    they start to drop to the ground Pierce shoots. From the previews we
    know that it is Paige that gets shot.
    
    The rest of the show had to do with Mac and Karen dealing with the fact
    that Val is writing the book on Greg. Val interviewed Claudia and
    Claudia convinced Greg to talk with Val so Greg finally met with her.
    Greg wanted to know why he should cooperate with her and Val said she
    wanted to talk to the people close to him, not just his enemies.
    
    Also there was one scene with Claudia and Alex and they basically
    talked a bit about when him not seeing Kate. Claudia says you like out
    little arrangement here (at this point Alex has taken a short silkie
    negligee out of a bag and given it to her). Claudia takes the nightie
    and heads upstairs telling Alex to come on up as she drops the nightie
    on the stairs and heads up to the bedroom. At least we were spared
    actually seeing them in bed.
    
    Patty

    re.-1
    
    Do we really know that it is Paige that got shot?? afterall, Anne was
    pretty upset so it cold be for both Paige or Gregg, Claudia is upset,
    so it could be for Gregg, and then finally Mac and karen come running
    down the hospital corridor, so again it could go for either Paige or
    Gregg.
    
    But then again, they pan to a scene with Alex sitting in Gregg's
    office, feet on the desk and then he is about to boink Vanessa.
    
    I agree with a few notes ago about the non-length of her skirt. I don't
    like this woman, so far she uses people for what she wants, is very
    manipulative and appears to be an overall sleaze.
    
    Did anyone catch the line she said to Alex when she was talking about a
    boyfriend that she had lost. Alex asked her how she would get him back
    and she told him, "I would seduce him and if that doesn't work than I
    would seduce HER".....hhmmmm what could the writers be leading up to
    here. 
    
    I can't believe that there will be a break cuz of the Olympics...but
    the show does seem to be picking up....it's about time. whatever the
    writers did, it seems to be working. 
    
    I think we should start a survey.....WHO WAS SHOT????
    
    		Paige -----
    
    
    		Sumner
    
    afterall, they only showed a pair of legs on the table in the hospital!
    
    peg

	Just a couple things from last night.  Vanessa would last
	around me for about two seconds.  I didn't trust her from 	
	the second she walked into Kate's apartment.  She is a
	user form the word go... Take anything anyone else has if 
	that is what she wants.  As far as I could tell Kate is
	being far to kind to someone I don't think she even likes.
	She would be out on her BUTT!

	The first time she met Alex in the towel. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE
	what kind of a person would do that.  Especially when she
	knew Kate was expecting a date to pick her up.  Then the
	second time doing anything to seduce him.  How do you like
	what you see.  While turning around so he could view it ALL!
	The skirt was up as far as it could go without exposing 
	everything this girl owns.

	Then on the couch cuddles and all.  If I were Kate I would 
	have told her to get out!  Even if she isn't involved with 
	him, that is her date and her apartment.  Then this worthless
	slime comes to borrow money from Kate, then proceeds to
	get a job better than Kate's.  See Kate I am better than you!

	Sorry, can you tell I can't stand this girl.  But, I guess this 
	is want the writers want us to do HATE HER!

	I really like Kate but she need to stand up for herself.  Of
	course Alex is Slime for falling into Vanessa's WEB!  

	In the previews for next week. They showed Ann at the hospital 
	so we know it wasn't her.  I think it is Paige that got shot.
	Anyway, Ann is crying and someone is in the Emergency room on
	the table.  
	
	Also, they showed Alex sitting behind Greg's desk with his
	feet up smoking a cigar.  Then they show him with Vanessa
	pushing things aside and taking her on the desk... Can you
	imagine.  I think it was Greg's desk.

	Now, we have to wait for a couple of weeks to find out what 
	happens.

	Oh, I thought it was so Funny when Val was interviewing Greg 
	and he was smoking his cigar almost in her face.  Then he
	asks "Oh, is the cigar bothering you." Pretty funny!  Almost
	him showing he is in control.
	
	I glad I am back to watching Notes.  With school on Thursday
	nights, I get home at 10:00 and still wide awake.

            
	Peg, 

	I guess we were thinking the same at the same time.  Glad
	we think alike.


	I put my vote in that it was Paige.

    Well I gotta put my few cents in for whatever it is worth,
    but last nights show was GREAT!!!!!!!!  Knots is sure 
    picking up in the storylines lately. I wish we didn't
    have to wait a couple of weeks, BUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
    
    I have to put my vote in that it is Paige who got shot.
    When they showed on the previews Pierce lerking around
    outside the hospital it seems as though he was somewhat
    worried and waiting to get Greg.  They make you believe
    it could either one with no real answer. *^)
    
    I hope Kate gets smart and kicks Vanessa out and then
    somehow gets her fired from Ann.  This girl is really
    something else!!!!!!!!!  I wonder what they are going
    to do with her on the show.  Alex and Vanessa do make
    a much better pair then he and Kate.
    
    However, that wasn't right what she did to her own what
    she calls "friend" that shows you she's not good at all.
    Like someone mentioned the writers got what they wanted
    us to do, is NOT LIKE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I hope somehow
    she gets paid back by someone.
    
    I thought also that Greg was pretty funny with Val when
    he finally agreed to see her.  He has that added humor
    and way about him that makes you laugh.  I like Greg he
    is handsome in his own way, with alot of charm. *^)
    
    Well I can't wait for the next episode. *^)  
    
    Tracey
    

    
    
    	re: .475 (?)
    
    	Funny you should mention the seduction line.  I remember 
    	reading a story a few weeks ago, probably in the Star
    	magazine that said the actress who plays Kate would be 
    	interested in a lesbia or bi-sexual storyline.  She feels
    	it would be a challenging role to play and a positive 
    	storyline.  With the way they're showing Kate's feelings
    	toward Vanessa though, I'd be surprised if they did it
    	between the two of them.
    
    	JJ
    
    	

    I think it is Greg
    
    Tricia

    I think it must of been Paige.  I don't think that Mac and Karen would
    look quite as upset as they did if it was Greg.  Actually they would
    probably be a little bit happy.
    
    I also hate Vanessa!!!  Kate should stop letting people walk on her.
    
    Cheryl

    It would be interesting if Knots came out with a lesibian storyline.
    every other soap that has tried it, never really addressed the issue.
    for those old timers of All My Children, there was a brief storyline
    about Devon (which I think was Ellen's daughter and Ellen is now
    Claudia)...hmmmm....
    
    who knows.....it definately looks like a bi-sexual storyline though as
    last weeks previews showed Alex clearing off Greg's desk so he and
    Vanessa could do the belly button bop!
    
    So is the 27th, the night that Knots will be returning....so much to
    think about...
    
    		Who got shot
    
    		Why is Claudia boinking ALex
    
    		Will Mac/Karen continue to get along with Val since she
    		is doing the story on Gregg and the scoop on Meg may arise
    
    		Pierce, psycho man or not????
    
    		Kate - will she rent-to-own a clue on life and realize
    		that vanessa is nothing short of a user
    
    		if paige is shot, will gregg announce his love for her
    		and dump anne
    
    		if gregg is shot, will paige go after him and get back 
    		together
    
    		will gary ever have a job
    
    		will mort come clean after the shooting and tell gregg what
    		psycho man is up to??
    
    peg
    who_just_can't_cope_without_her_soap! 

Peg, and all


    It would be interesting if Knots came out with a lesibian storyline.
    every other soap that has tried it, never really addressed the issue.
    for those old timers of All My Children, there was a brief storyline
    about Devon (which I think was Ellen's daughter and Ellen is now
    Claudia)...hmmmm....
    
**	I remember that.  I thought it was weird when Vanessa said 
**	she would go after the girl.  She seemed very different from
**	her first appearance.  I have so many questions where they
**	will go with this.  Who will they have her get involved with.
**	It couldn't be Kate.  It would have to be another new character.


    who knows.....it definately looks like a bi-sexual storyline though as
    last weeks previews showed Alex clearing off Greg's desk so he and
    Vanessa could do the belly button bop!

**	I just think she is a wicked hornbag and doesn't care who
**	as long as she gets satisfied.

    So is the 27th, the night that Knots will be returning....so much to
    think about...

**	I love the olympics but I WANT MY KNOTS!!!!!!!!

    
    		Who got shot

**		  PAIGE


    		Why is Claudia boinking ALex
    
**		  I think she is trying to get some kind of control
**		  over him.

		
    		Will Mac/Karen continue to get along with Val since she
    		is doing the story on Gregg and the scoop on Meg may arise

**		  Maybe, it is time to tell Meg before she finds out
**		  from the story or even Val's twins.
    
    		Pierce, psycho man or not????
    
**		  Ah, Pierce.  Truely a SICKO!!!!!


    		Kate - will she rent-to-own a clue on life and realize
    		that vanessa is nothing short of a user
    

**		  They have turned her into a real goody goody who
**		  doesn't know how to get out of her own way.  
	

    		if paige is shot, will gregg announce his love for her
    		and dump anne
		if gregg is shot, will paige go after him and get back 
    		together
	    
**		  These two run hand in hand.  I wondered if that is
**		  why they did the shooting. Besides wanting to keep
**		  us hanging for two weeks.  Either way.  I think if 
**		  they get back together it will cause BIG problems
**		  with Anne, she will FLIP OUT!

		will gary ever have a job
    
**		  You would think he would at least go look for one
**		  instead of feeling sorry for himself.

    		will mort come clean after the shooting and tell gregg what
    		psycho man is up to??


**		  No Mort is a weasel.  If he got away with it and 
**		  Pierce gets put away.  Why not continue.  Of course
**		  sooner or later someone will catch up with him.  	
**		  Maybe, Paige (if she didn't get shot) to help Greg.  

**		  But, I still think Paige was the one who was shot.


    Cyndi

    
    
    I know we all like to see a little spice on knots but don't you think the
    three new characters - namely - Pierce - Alex - Vanessa - are a little
    nasty.
    
    I know, sometimes you need a little bad mixed in ....like Abby.... she
    could be real bad, but she wasn't nasty.
    
    As for this Alex - Katie thing, what a mess that will be if it flys,
    it will be poor Katie next.  (Thank god they gave Val back her sanity!)
    
    ....el
    
    

    Hi,
    
    Could somebody please write what happened in the next episode?
    
    Thanks,
    Eric

    Knots wasn't on last night and won't be on next Thurs (2/20) because of
    the Olympics.  So, we still don't know who got shot.  We'll find out on
    2/27.
    
    Cheryl

    I can't wait until Knots is on it wasn't the same not seeing
    it last night!!!!!!!!!  The suspense of who got shot is killing
    me. 
    
    I hope that no matter what if it was Paige or if it is 
    surpisingly Greg that it brings them back together.  I 
    thought they were the BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *^)
    
    At least if they don't bring them back together at least
    give us the hunko - hunko Tom.  He was good!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I like the scenes with him I wish he would at least
    come back. *^)
    
    If they did bring Tom back maybe he could break Kate of
    being so boring and not taking a stand for herself.  I
    could hardly see the two of them together, but stranger
    things could happen. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    
    
    
    

    First of all, I think it was Paige that was shot.  Reason being that
    the legs shown on the table were woman's legs and someone already said
    that Anne was shown at the hospital.
    
    Now for What Will Happen (from SOD):
    
    -  Pandemonium reigns at the hospital as everyone rushes to the side of
    the gunshot victim, who undergoes surgery to remove the bullet.
    
    -  During the vigil at the hospital, a decision is made that determines
    the future of Anne and Greg.
    
    -  Alex and Vanessa begin to form an alliance.
    
    -  Pierce makes a surprise visit to the cul-de-sac.
    
    bk
    

    I had forgotten that Pierce shows up at Claudia's house....I wonder
    what he has in store for her...another possible hostage situation, or
    will be break down and confess that is was he who did the shooting and
    is skipping Knot's.....
    
    I don't think that Anne is going to last too long with Gregg...they
    just don't have as much chemistry between them as Gregg and Paige.
    I mean, come on....can you see Anne playing strip croquet with gregg,
    well then again, probably ya!
    
    thank god the olympics are off....I'm ready for Knots....glad to see
    that the show is picking up again...Even though Vanessa is pretty
    slimy, it is usually the slimy characters that are the best...i.e.
    Abby, Jill, Peter, and the guy who played the minister!
     

    My mother-in-law told me Knots has been cancelled due to the low
    ratings.  Is this true????
    
    It can't be...
    
    Karen

              

	Yeah,

	One more day till Knots.  

	My finance' actually set the VCR last Thursday when I 
	was at school.  He knew I had to see what happened and 
	my instructor has been keeping us late.  That really burns
	me.  There are a few other women in the class and we all 
	rush out to get home to see it!

	Well we will all know tommorrow.  

	Karen - I hope that is not true about Knots.  The way the show
	is going now they should give it a chance.  I am sure the ratings 
	are going to pick up fast.

	Till tommorrow.


	

    I'd probably agree with the past 2 notes about the cancelling of
    Knots. Granted the show was pretty terrible in the beginning, but it
    has picked up over the past few weeks. if do cancel it, I'm sure they
    will wait until the season is over..
    
    but hopefully that won't happen!
    
    peg 

    I hope they don't cancel Knot it is the ONLY night time Soap
    left.  I would be really bummed if they did. *^)  I feel like
    the stories are really picking up and would hate to see them
    cancel it now, or ever!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Only one more day and it will be on again, can't wait!!!!!!!!!
    We will all know if it was Paige who got shot.  I still think
    it was, but we will all soon know.
    
    Tracey
    

    I don't know why but for the last few days I've had the feeling
    that Paige is the one who took the bullet.
    
    T-minus 28 hours and counting. (Is everyone one else on early
    prime time now or is it just the Bay Area?)  I've got to arrange
    to be home and hour earlier now for Knots.  My VCR will not let
    me set it to tape one channel while the cable box is set on a
    different channel.  I have it set for ABC during the day and 
    have to go home to switch it to CBS.  So, can someone please 
    take notes 'cause if my dinner tomorrow night runs late, I'm 
    gonna miss Knot and I'll be truly depressed.
    
    Jan

    re: -.1
    
    I just checked the Boston Herald and Knot's is on it's regular time -
    10:00.
    
    bk
    

    what a great show last night!!!! I think we all figured out that Paige
    was the one to take the bullet, but I never thought complications would
    arise. 
    
    It was real tear jerky to see how everyone reflected back on Paige. I
    loved it when Gregg flashed back to the "I love you" and the strip
    croquet scene.....they will get back together, even Anne saw how much
    he still cares for her.
    
    now the question is Pierce? how will he be caught??? they showed him in
    the hospital next week....the tension builds!
    
    just as a side note, Vanessa still disgusts me...it's almost like, take
    me now, take me anywhere....watch out Anne, I wouldn't doubt if she
    goes after her job with Paige being in the hospital and all.
    
    I did kinda feel bad for Claudia, she did look like she genuinely
    watned to be there for Gregg, but he just pushed her away. but I
    suppose in times like that, people deal with tragedy differently.
    
    any suggestions on what is going to happen next?
    
    peg
    

                     


	The show was great!  I ran in from school just as the opening 
	credits rolled.  I was dying to get out of class.  My finance'
	had the VCR ready to roll if we ran late.  

	I also cried last night.  The scenes with her and Greg, and 
	Paige and Mack really got to me.  I just hope that everything 
	turns out better than it did with SID.  I could understand
	Anne, but Karen was hurting from 

 

    Well I also thought the show was great.  But I have a few complaints. 
    My son reminded me last night that this same thing happen to Karen when
    some men were trying to kill Gary a long time ago.  I do not know if
    any of you every get to see the reruns during the day but that show was
    on this week and he was out of school so he reminded me about Karen
    getting shot and have bullet fragments in her back and they having to
    do surgery and tell her she only had a 50/50 chance of making it
    through surgery.  Now they are doing the same thing with Paige.  But no
    one mention this having happen to Karen.  Also, it bother me that Paige
    is suppose to be so critical that she is in intense care after a long
    surgery and she just wakes up, not spacey at all from the pain killer
    or the long surgery and her doctor just comes in a test her ability to
    feel anything.  I mean she just got out of surgery, and wouldn't he
    waint for all the medication to ware off and wouldn't he do this in
    private without everyone standing there.  I did finally found one thing
    not pretty about Paige.  Her feet were ugly.  Also, should she be
    laying on a back that was just operated on.  I know I am being picky
    but come on how can we feel this is so critical when they walk in she
    wakes up and is so fine...I am glad that Anne is aware of Gregs
    feelings for Paige.  They are great together.  I loved it when he told
    his sister to get lost.  Why didn't his sister call the police after
    Pierce left.  Also, Vanasea and Alex was weird.  I can not understand
    how Alex can walk into the President office so often hours after an
    attemp on his life without the Security Guards ever finding anything
    out....
    
    Well all in all I loved the show especially the flash backs of Greg and
    Paige.  Paige and Mac, and Anne and Paige. I do not think the person
    playing Vanesa can act very good but maybe she will get better.
    
    

    Well we did have the who got shot figured out.  I loved the way
    they had Greg, Mac and Ann think back on there times with Paige
    it was very touching ecspecially with the music playing.
    
    They ones with Greg and her were the best and the croquet was
    the one I remember the most, it was GREAT!!!!!!!!!  I am to
    happy that Ann realizes that she and Greg don't have a future
    and that Greg and Paige should be together.  She seems like
    she knows that to.
    
    I hope that Paige gets back with Greg and doesn't give him
    a hard time.  Somehow I think she won't go back with him
    right now.  They should be together and soon.  It will be
    nice to see them as a couple again.  At least they have
    spark.
    
    This Vanessa is GROSS I did not like her at all.  Her and
    Alex really do belong together, scum with scum YUCK!!!!!!!!
    I would hope that after Pierce came to Claudia's house
    that she would not call the Polices, I know I would have
    done that like right away if I was her.
    
    Lots of the things building up on Knots.  They showed the
    previews with Val meeting someone with info. on Greg and
    it looks like it could be someone bad.
    
    Can't wait to watch, LOVED last nights show.
    
    
    Tracey
    

        

	Sorry about note .497.  I had just started and I was interupted.
	This personwas just about on top of me to see what I was doing.
	Anyway, sorry.


	About last night.  I thought overall the show was great.  But, I 
	also found the scenes with the emergency room and ICU unbelievable.
	They are so strict in reality.  Then, when Greg was in the room
	first before Paige's Mom and Dad.  NO! NO!  I was sitting there
	saying what is he doing he is not immediate family or family at all!!

	The part with Mack and Anne I thought was cute how they were
	remembering what had happened in the back of the car.  How she
	never told him and how hurt he was of what he missed with Paige.
	Anne hit it on the head when she said how bad she was to Paige
	shipping her off so she didn't have to deal with a child.

	I HATE Vanessa she is a fake, a user  and a SL*T as afar as I am
	concerned.  I think her acting stinks as well.  She is out for
	one thing self satisfaction... She will hurt or ruin anyone or
	anything in her way.

	I agree about Paige and Greg, I know they will be back together.
	At least Anne got to be the dumper instead of the dumpee.  Like
	Greg really looked upset. NOT!

	Well, the story is certainly getting interesting.  I can't
	wait till next week!

	Have a good one!

	Cyndi

	

    

    
    Did anyone notice...
    
    when Anne and Mack were reminscing... and a song comes on and Anne says
    she loved the song and sang it throughout her pregnancy..... 
    
    IT WAS THE MAMA AND THE PAPAS!! i.e. MICHELLE PHILLIPS herself!!! 
    
    I thought that was hysterical.  I believe the song was "This is
    dedicated to the one I love."  Also the title of last night's show.

    
    
    	re: .501
    
    	Darn!  You beat me to it!  =)
    
    	*Just* before the song clicked on I turned to hubby and said
    	"I wonder if they'll be creative enough to play a The Mama's
     	 and the Papa's tune"  Cue music|!  =)
    
    	JJ
    

    re-1
    
    yes yes, I noticed the song too and was about to enter that in here
    when I came across your note! that's just too funny.....a few weeks
    ago, Michelle Phillips was on a talk show and they showed clips from
    the Mammas and the Pappas, I will say that Michelle has gotten MUCH
    better looking over the years.....well then again, plaid, bell bottom
    pants with a tie dye shirt I suppose will make anyone not look to
    attractive. 
    
    about Alex getting into gregg's office. don't forget that gregg sent
    him back to tell security to beef up their rounds and secure the
    building. Slimy Alex probably told them that Mr Sumner wanted him to
    personally check out his office. Just amazes me how Vanessa just
    walzted in with him....only in soap land
    
    I bet the person pulling up behind Val next week is either Gary, or
    the neighbor...oh god, what is his name.....Frank.....speaking of
    Frank, is it me or has anyone else noticed that he seems to have gotten
    extremley THIN....especially in his face.......
    
    peg

    
    YES...noticed the song ...but I thought it might be a M&P's song, but 
    thought the song was from the 50's and forgot about it.  Glad you 
    mentioned it!
    
    Once they started the reminscing...I thought Greg would finally break 
    down and cry.
    
    ...el
    

    I said all those things to myself last night, about Frank's weight, the
    person pulling up behind Val in the previews, and of course the song. 
    Nice to see that Knots is getting it's sense of humor back.  It was los
    there for a while.  I love that song and Michelle Phillips does sing
    the lead in it, one of the few with the Mama and the Papas that she
    does.  Mama Cass seemed to always take center stage.
    
    I liked last night's show a lot.  I haven't jumped like that (when
    Pierce was in Claudia's house) since the days when Michelle Lee (Karen)
    directed some of the shows.  They should let her more often, she was
    excellent and the shows always had kind of an eeriness about them.  I
    have always loved that Knots had suspense and the element of surprise
    to the episodes.  They really did lose that.  Looks like they're
    getting some of it back though.
    
    Cheryl

	About Frank.  My Finance' (Steve) and I watch Knots together
	and he said Frank was in the hospital for quite a while.
	He had Kidney failure.  That is why he wasn't on. I forget to 
	ask him where he learned this I was to interested in the show.

	

    
    GREAT show last night!!   Anyone know who directed it?  They usually
    have the actors rotate the directing responsibility.
    
    re; the note about possible cancellation - NO, NO, NO!  They can't do
    that to us!  As was mentioned, this is the ONLY night-time soap left.  
    What do they want to do, put on another police or news program!!!!!!   
                                                                  
    Say it ain't so!  This is my Fav!
    

    So, all you guys are having a great time discussing the show but can
    someone post an update (even a short one).  I walked in just as the
    radio station was dedicating the song to Anne and her daughter.  That
    means I only caught about the last 20 minutes of the show.  Dinner
    ran a bit long (but boy was the food wonderful, and so were the
    strawberry margueritas).
    
    Jan

    let's see....well we all know by now that Paige was shot and had to
    undergo surgery to remove the framgments of the bullet....Mac and Anne
    agreed, but wanted a second opinion. the doctor told them however that
    there was no time for one.
    
    then everyone started thinking about Paige....Anne was thinking of
    Paige when she called her mom, Gregg when they both said I love you,
    and I can't remember what Mac was thinking.
    
    before Paige heads into surgery, she is calling for Gregg, and telling
    him not to leave her. looks like these 2 may get back together. 
    
    Gregg is standing in front of a coffee machine, an orderly walks by and
    one could assume that it was Pierce. Mac sees this and tackles the guy,
    after he rips off his mask, we know it is not Pierce.....but however
    this was a bit of foreshadowing...next weeks previews showed Pierce in
    the hospital with a mask on
    
    Claudia goes to comfort Gregg and he violently pushes her away.
    Meanwhile Slimy Alex was calling him "sir" and wanted to know if there
    was anything he could do. Gregg tells him to go to security at the
    Sumner building and beef up security.
    
    Karen is trying to comfort Anne saying I know what you have gone
    through. Of course Anne snaps at her, saying no you don't...to which
    Karen replies, yes I do, I went through this with my first husband.
    Anne is feeling very lonely. even gregg is not comforting her. Karen
    calls Val to come get her and as the 2 of them are walking down the
    hall, gregg stops them and asks Val if she is there to get the scoop
    for her book. She replies with no, and something about him hurting more
    than he lets people know.
    
    Claudia returns to her home to find Pierce inside. he is totally
    freaking out...can't stand him but he is a good actor here, He wants
    her to tell Paige he is sorry. It was an accident.He went to shoot
    Sumner and she somehow got in the way. Claudia is trying to back up to
    the front door to leave but as she opens it, Pierce leaves and
    disappears into the night.
    
    Slut bag Vanessa is at the hospital comforting, or trying to, Anne. she
    tells Anne they are rerunning an old show of hers. At this point, I
    don't think Anne really cares. Vanessa is then on the radio with
    someone from the hospital giving an update on the whole situation. 
    
    We then see Alex sitting in Sumner's chair smoking away on one of his
    cigars. Didn't pay attention here, but somehow Vanessa and Alex end up
    back in the office. He is trying to her to go into Gregg's apartment
    and she replies with how conventional or something like that. He then
    clears the desk and the both of them are no engaged in the belly button
    bop! Talk about a class act
    
    We find out that Paige is paralyzed from the waist down. The doctor
    sticks her with a needle in the hand and arm and she feels that, But as
    he makes his way down her leg, she feels nothing. Gregg, Mac and Anne
    are all in the recovery room while this is going on.
    
    Next week shows Gregg talking to Paige about what hismoney can't buy,
    she replies with something about Laura....Val gets a phone call from
    someone who has info on gregg. she is to meet this person in a parking
    lot at night. she gets there, sees the other car, gets out of hers and
    someone places a hand on her shoulder.
    
    We then see Pierce in the hospital, he's got the doctors outfit on, so
    who knows how far he will get. there are guards outside of Paige's room
    but we all know from past experience, that these guards are as useful
    an an enema!

    My husband said that Frank looked like a scarecrow a few weeks ago and
    I really noticed it on this last show.  He looked terrible, he used to
    be roly poly in his T-shirt and jeans when they first moved to the
    cul-de-sac.  I hope he gets better because I do like him.  I thought
    the show was much better than it has been.  Pierce is a good psycho! 
    Claudia is a good actress too.  I never liked her on AMC but I do like
    her on this show.  She makes a really good beast for a sister!  
    
    I remember when Karen got shot by the Wolfridge gang.  She won an award
    that year for dramatic acting because she became addicted to the
    painkillers following her surgery.  It was very good.  I really, really
    hope that the show continues.  I have been watching it since I was in 
    high school...
    
    Karen
    

    Just wanted to let you know that Claudia's son (Steve, was it?), the
    one they killed off, is now appearing on Life Goes On.  He plays an
    artist and looks pretty scruffy; long hair, beard, etc.  It took me
    a while to recognize him.  Don't know if this is a temporary shot or
    if they're developing him for a romance with the oldest daughter (aka
    Paige).
    
    Jan

    re .502 (i think)
    
    when anne matheson first showed up on knots and was living in the
    cul-du-sac, there was quite a bit of the mama's and papa's music
    playing in the background. i found it quite neat that the producers or
    someone had a sense of humor.
    
    ann

    what a great show last night! I'm looking forward to next weeks show
    already. the previews look great.....
    
    one question though, well actually 2.....first of all, for next week it
    showed Val speaking to this woman regarding gregg. she said her son
    married this woman and had a child with her....I thought that gregg's
    mother was dead? or did i just not hear that part correct
    
    also, who was the orderly that was in cahoots with Pierce to get paige
    into the van! man oh man, he has really flipped out....I think it's the
    way they have his hair too! I say for next week, mac and gregg throw
    pierce into the water and run himover with the boat a few times...
    
    great recovery by paige with her legs, I was wondering how long they
    were going to drag that out! and the scene with her and gregg in the
    pool, definately looks like we are heading down the aisle with them
    soon!
    
    peg

    Re: note .513 < She said her son married this woman and had a child
    with her.....>  
    
    	What she had said was that her son had had an affair with Laura and
    that Meg was his child not Greggs.  When I think back on when Laura was 
    on the show, I don't ever remember her having an affair but there was a
    time when her and Gregg were having a few problems and that was just
    before she got pregnant.

    
    
    	Could someone post an update?  I went out last night
    	and forgot to have hubby set the VCR!  phooey!
    
    	Thanks!
    
    	JJ
    

    
    Done fairly quickly and in no particular order so hope it makes sense.
    
    
    
    Mac goes home and tells Karen about Paige's paralysis.  She comforts
    him and tells him at least she's still alive.

    Ann and Sumner are in the hospital room bickering wondering why its
    taking Paige so long to come to, (the doctor's got her on drugs). 
    Paige comes around and is having a tantrum, she's pissed and losing
    hope.  Ann asks to fluff her pillows and Paige snaps at her telling her
    to get the hell out of her room.  It's too late for her to be her
    mother.  Ann leaves as Sumner enters (he went off to get the nurse).

    At the Ewing's, Val is busily jotting down notes about the book.  Gary
    comes in and tells her to put the book on hold until Pierce is found. 
    He figures she's endangering the kids by being involved with Sumner. 
    She tells him she will, only after she makes a few phone calls.

    Val makes a call to this woman but the woman hangs up.  Val was
    inquiring about a lawsuit.  The woman calls her back and thats when she
    tells Val to meet her at the high school parking lot, alone.  She takes
    off after dinner one night (Frank was over) and Gary follows her.  Gary
    is the person you see in the previews touching Val's shoulder.  She got
    pissed that he followed her but then they made up.

    Ann goes back to work and on her show she talks about what's been
    happening with her personal life and how she feels about Paige's
    rejection.  The nurse brought Paige a radio, turned it on to Ann's show
    and left so Paige is hearing all of this.  Cut to the hospital where
    Greg shows up and she's pissed that the nurse just drops off this radio
    and leaves, and she can't get up to turn it off. Her doctor comes in
    and Sumner tells him the next time one of his staff assumes Paige wants
    something without asking he'll have them fired.  The doctor replies the
    next time Greg threatens him he'll have him out of the hospital.  (I
    personally was glad to see the doctor stand up to Greg).  Well the
    doctor came in to tell Paige there is a slight chance that her
    paralysis is due to swelling around the spine and if that's the case
    she may be 'dancing in no time'.  Exit doctor, exit Sumner.  In the
    hall , Greg tells the doc. his diagnosis is  half-assed and he wants to
    get his specialist to see Paige.  he threatens that he'll sue the
    hospital/doctor if she dosen't walk.  The doctor says if he didn't
    remove the fragments when he did Paige would be dead so he better stop
    his harrassment and be glad for that.  Mac walks in, sees them arguing
    and agrees with the doctor...at least Paige is alive.  You then see the
    camera focus in on an orderly who is none other than Pierce.

    Paige is in the pool with her physical therapist and Greg comes by. 
    The PT gets called away and Greg walks into the pool (fully clothed)
    and stands a short distance from Paige.  Paige then ~walks~ (falls) in
    Greg's arms and he picks her up and they look dreamily into each others
    eyes.  Just as Greg gets ready to say "I Love You" the PT comes in and
    says she needs to go to get an x-ray.                   

    An orderly is taking her to x-ray with police protection.  At the end
    of the hall Pierce whacks the cop over the head, gives Paige a shot in
    her arm with something to put her to sleep and carries her outside to
    his van...off they go!

    And Alex is once again showing Vannessa he's not a "conventional" guy. 
    They did it at the station in the console (right word) room.  This was
    seconds after he confirmed his dinner date with Katie who was dropping
    off Ann's mail.

    What did I miss fellow watchers?

    ...Rania

    let's see.....Paige is with Anne in the hospital and tells Anne to
    leave. Paige just doesn't want her around. Later on we see Anne on her
    talk show talking about Paige and how she hasn't been a good mother but
    yet she still loves her daughter and wants to tell her but can't find a
    way. 
    
    gregg calls in a specialist from france to come and check out Paige, as
    he is poking her legs, she says "Ouch that hurts"...the doctor who
    performed the surgerystated that the paralysis might be from some
    swelling around the spinal cord. Paige has no regained the use of her
    legs.
    
    Val gets a call from a woman with information on gregg, they are too
    meet in a parking lot. As val pulls in, the car flashes its lights. she
    gets out and then a hand is placed on her shoulder. it was gary, he was
    worried and didn't beleive Val that she was just going to the library.
    the woman then calls Val back and tells her that she has information
    regarding gregg's daughter MEG!
    
    Mac wants to take Paige home but Karen tells him to ask Anne first. We
    later see that Anne is asking Paige for another chance at being her
    mother and will she come home with her so that she can take care of
    her.
    
    Paige is in the pool working with the therapist. The therapist leaves
    to answer a phone call and gregg is there. he wades into the pool,
    clothes and all and picks up Paige. He tells her that normally he would
    get on his knee to do this, but he is afraid that he would drown.  He
    is about to tell her that he loves her when the technician pops back
    onto the scene and tells paige she is due in xray later on tonight.
    
    we see Paige being wheeled down into the bottom of the basement. she is
    asking the technican why she is down there, she has been to xray before
    and it is notin the basement. then, psycho-man pierce appears, knocks
    the guard out, pushes a needle into Paige's arm and tells her that they
    will never be apart again. He then picks her up, carries her out to a
    van and they take off.
    
    To back up a bit, Karen walks into the hospital and sees Anne and Mack
    kissing. Anne was just thanking him for all his support with Paige.
    HHmmm wonder what this is going to lead to
    
    Oh, Alex calls Vanessa the morning after and tells her how perfect the
    night before was. He is sitting in gregg's chair with just his pants
    on. vanessa wants to know when she is going to see him again. he tells
    her to tellKate he called about Paige. We then see Claudia going into
    gregg's office to find papers all over the desk, an empty bottle of
    champagne and the wrapping for a condom. Alex comes strolling out of
    gregg's apartment and tells claudia he was just doing as told. We then
    see Alex waiting for kate at the radio station and Vanessa walks in.
    She dims the lights and they do the wild thing in the studio. Kate
    walks back in to find Alex and sees that the lights are off. If only
    she has looked under the control panel, she would have seen how
    brightly the moon was shining!
    
    Previews - Claudia catches Alex and Vanessa on the couch....gregg and
    mack are in hot pursuit of Pierce and Paige on the open seas, Val is
    talking to this woman about Meg/Gregg/Laura
    
    I think that's it
    
    peg   

    Does anyone know how I can go about finding the name/artist of the song they
    played on the 2/27 espisode while everyone was reminiscing about Paige? 
    I really liked that song and would love to know if the artists' other
    songs sound like that.  I don't even know where to begin looking for it.  
    The name is probably something like "There's got to be a
    resolution" or "Like everything else in my life, this will have to
    wait".  I looked at the credits and all I could find was music by Patrick
    Gleeson.  No one at the record stores has ever heard of him.  Would the
    studio have information about that?  Does anyone know the studio's
    address?
    
    Knots has really picked up since the beginning of the year.  I'm so
    glad Paige and Greg are on the track to get back together.  I thought
    it was great how they let you know he was going to tell Paige that he
    loved her but he still never said the whole thing.
    
    I don't really like the storyline about Laura's affair.  I hope that
    doesn't ruin things for Meg/Greg/Mac/Karen.  When Greg was with Laura
    was about the only time he was a genuine caring person and now the
    writers are going to toy with his memories of her.  I hope this
    won't turn him back into a TOTALLY  cynical Greg.
    
    I have been watching this show for as long as I can remember and Karen
    being shot is still not clicking.  Could someone fill in more details
    and maybe give a time-frame as to when it happened (i.e. what else was
    going on in the cul-de-sac at the time, was it during her marriage to
    Syd or Mac?)
    
    Looking forward to next Thursday!!!!
    
    Kat

    It's nice to see "Knots" practing safe sex.  But I can't figure out
    when Alex had the time to put "one" on.
    
    Oh, well so it is with soap land.
    
    Leslie  R-O-N (read-only-noter)
    

    The woman on the phone who is giving Val information about Greg, Laura
    and Meg is Marie Cheatham, who used to play Charlene Simpson on GH.  I
    bet you recognize her voice the next time you hear it, for those of you
    who watched GH when she was on.
    
    When I was listening to her, I was thinking, maybe Laura is alive and
    she has infomation.  But then the previews said differently.  It would
    have been nice to see Laura come back.  Everyone would just flip.
    
    Cheryl

    
    	They just had a preview of tonite's episode on the RADIO!
    	I've never heard an ad for a soap on the radio.
    
    	Anyway, tonite's episode sounds great!  Pierce has Paige,
    	she's telling him he won't get away with it.  Then I heard
    	Mac and ?? on a boat.  Someone screams and then there's a
    	big splash or something.
    
    	JJ who is going to make sure she doesn't miss it!
    

    
    Judy,
    
    The ?? in your note is Greg.  The tv commercial says something along
    the lines of 2 enemies uniting....  And shows the two of them in a
    speedboat.
    
    Bet Pierce is swimming with the fish by the end of tonight's show.
    
    Looks like it will be a pretty show with lots of action.  I'd love to
    have Pierce's boat!
    
    ...Rania

    re -1
    
    ya know, I was thinking the same thing too about mr psycho man
    himself...there has to be a struggle and more than likely he will
    fall overboard, get run over by the boat, or leave it open that
    they never find his body!!!!!!
    
    Paige will run to, well maybe swim, to gregg's arms and Mac will stand
    there with his usual stupid DUH-like look on his face....he better
    start liking gregg, he may end as his son-in-law soon...and we know
    that gregg will call Mac and Karen Ma and Dad just to aggrevate
    them....
    
    
    com' on 10:00.......
    
    peg 

    
    Yeah, Paige will miraculously recover from her paralysis and gracefully
    swim to Greg's open arms.  I'll bet a buck that we hear Greg say those
    3 little words to Paige... I LOVE YOU!
    
    Looking forward to it,
    ...Rania
    

    anyone wanna bet that maybe just maybe, gregg PROPOSES to her
    tonight???

    	You're not going to believe this, but the last 15 minutes of the
    show last night ---- I fell asleep.  Someone please tell me what
    happened.  I'll just go crazy if I don't find out.
    
    	I'm glad that Val saw through that woman last night.  Did you see
    the surprised look on her face when Val took the money back?  I bet
    that we see more of that woman and her lies that she is telling.  I
    can't remember the man that she called her son.  He must not have had a
    big part in the show.
    
    	Well, as long as someone updates me on the last 15 minutes, I will
    be a happy person on the Friday the 13th.
    

    
    I wish I had fallen asleep, what a lousy show, IMHO.  The only good
    part from last night's show was when....
    
    
    
    Claudia walked in on Alex and Vannessa on the sofa.  And then when the
    guy from Sumner Group walked in and she nonchalantly introduced him to
    Alex and Vannessa ;-)))
    
    And to answer the question about the last 15 minutes.......I think that
    was the part that was primarily shown in the commercial.  
    
    Greg and Mac take off on a speed boat to chase after Pierce.  They
    catch up to them and Mac jumps onto the sailboat and starts to beat up
    Pierce.  A second late you see Greg standing behind Paige, excusing
    himself and going to give Pierce a whack or two.
    
    Then all three of them go splashing into the ocean and continue
    fighting until they all go under water with Paige yelling for them. 
    End of show.....
    
    ...Rania

    The scenes looked good though.  No Knots on around  here (East Coast, I
    don't know about other areas) next week.  There's a basketball game on. 
    Bummer!!
    
    
    Val is reading a newspaper that says the woman (Mary Robeson) has
    disappeared.
    
    Claudia walks in on Kate and Alex kissing on her sofa.  (Yes, it was
    Kate, not Vanessa)
    
    They showed Laura's grave for some reason.  I don't know who was
    standing at it.  I still have the feeling they are bringing her back. 
    I don't know why, but I do.
    
    The fight goes on in the ocean, with Paige yelling while they are under
    water.
    
    Cheryl

    
    The eeriest preview is when....
    
    
    
    Paige wakes up and Peirce is looking down on her.
                                         
    
    ...Rania
    

    Rania-->>  Do you really think that was Pierce for sure that
    was looking down on her.  They did not show the person and
    Paige hadn't said a word yet.  I was hoping that possible
    it could be Greg, Mac or her mother that is looking down
    at her.
    
    I hope so, cause I hate to think that they drag this Pierce
    story out with Paige.  I want Paige and Greg back together
    they really make the show interesting when they are 
    together.
    
    I had to laugh though when they show Alex and Kate together
    and Claudia walks in on them kissing. 
    
    On the previews though what do you guys think Claudia was
    doing when they show her looking through the bed sheets.
    I was kindof confused on who's bed and why she was doing
    that.  What was she looking for?!?!?!?!?!
    
    I wonder if the Basketball game will be on here next
    Thursday, I am sure it will.  You mean we have to wait
    ANOTHER 2 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait!!!!!!! *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    

    Tracey,
    
    Nope, I really think it was Pierce.  I remember Paige opening her
    eye's and looking frightened.
    
    > I had to laugh though when they show Alex and Kate together
    > and Claudia walks in on them kissing. 
    
    > On the previews though what do you guys think Claudia was
    > doing when they show her looking through the bed sheets.
    > I was kindof confused on who's bed and why she was doing
    > that.  What was she looking for?!?!?!?!?!
    
    Yeah, Alex is definitely moving in on Kate.  I thought the preview when
    she was throwing stuff around was in her bedroom.  Maybe she's so
    pissed with Alex (and Kate) that she had to let off some steam????  Or
    maybe Alex just got through telling her about Vannessa and him fooling
    around in her bed.
    
    About last nights...can you believe Alex & Vannessa?  They are so
    freakin' horny.  She sorta bugs me when she talks - lack of acting
    talent?
    
    ...Rania
    

	I think Alex is a goof, a sleezoid, and a PIG.  I'll
	bet he threw it in Claudia face that he Belly Bopped 
	with Vanessa in HER BED!  I would go nuts if someone
	did it in my BED!  And left me there dirty sheets.
	Claudia will hit the roof when she sees Kate kissing him.  
	HA!HA! she knows where his mouth has been.

	I was surprised what happpened when the boat finally meets
	up with Pierce and Paige.  I didn't expect it to end with
	all three under the water.  If Pierce came up and one of
	other's is drowning i.e. Greg or Mac would stay to save the
	other.

	I thought it showed someone's hands around Paige's neck
	when she woke up.  I was fighting to stay awake to see
	it all.

	Steve and I are watching it together tonight.  He had
	an early day and went to bed before I got home from 
	school.  At 5:30 this a.m. he wakes me up and says what 
	happened on Knots.  Well, needless to say I told him we 
	can watch it tonight.

	If I watch closer I'll take notes and write in on Monday.

	Have a great weekend!

	

	Cyndi



	

    
    	I think it was Pierce that Paige sees too, in the previews
    	BUT I think we'll find out that he's really dead and she's
    	just dreaming or something.
    
    	Can *someone* tell me where I know the woman that Val met
    	from?  I can see her with longer, curly type hair that's kind
    	of an ash blonde.  I think she played on another soap but
    	for the life of me can't place her and it's driving me nuts!
    
    	Alex and Vanessa are pathetic.  Claudia maintained her cool
    	quite well though, I'll admit.
    
    	JJ
    

	JJ,

	The person that is speaking to Val was in a previous
	note .520 I think.  She was Charlene Simpson on General
	Hospital.  Boy, she looked better before than she
	does now...

	I wonder why they are talking about Laura so much, as someone says
	can they bring her back... I don't think so, she died of
	a disease not a car accident or a desert island or a plane or any
	of the usual things ... Maybe, that is why they are getting her 
	so called affair involved...  I don't know this part confuses me.

	
Cyndi

	
	

    I haven't watched last nights show yet so I can't comment.
    
    Just wanted to let you know that this is tournament time and I think
    the next two weeks you'll see basketball on Thursday, Friday, Saturday
    and Sunday nights.
    
    BK
    

    
    Well, I taped the second half of the show and watched it this morning
    and my viewing of the ending was that Mac had pulled Pierce off of Greg
    cause Pierce was holding him underwater and Greg never surfaced. We
    just kept seeing the spot he went under and lots of bubbles and stuff
    and Paige looking at the spot and yelling "Greg!"
    
    From the previews, I to think it was Pierce with his hands around
    Paige's neck when she wakes up, but they also edit the previews so you
    think one thing and it ends up being something else.
    
    Patty

    I think that preview of Paige waking up is a previous scene.  You know
    how they go back and forth on previews to try and confuse everyone!
    
    Another comment - I don't remember any scenes with Laura cheating on
    Gregg??  I think this woman is making it up to get cashola, but you
    never know what really happened behind the scenes!
    
    . .
     -   Sad to hear Knotts won't be on Thursday!  I hate when that
    happens!
    
    See ya,  Lera 
    
    
     ^

    something is going to happen with this woman and Meg. didn't last
    week's previews show her peering into Val's car when she had Bobbie,
    Betsy and Meg in the back. There is no way that Laura would have
    cheated on gregg, she loved him too much. remember back how hurt she
    was when she was pregnant and gregg didn't want anything to do with her
    and she never would have left such a tear jerking video to say her
    goodbye's to everyone. maybe the writers are just giving val a
    storyline, she has been kinda quiet lately.
    
    I think it was just a dream with Paige and Pierce.....my question is
    though, how did Mac and Gregg beat the Coast Guard and other boats out
    to where Paige and Pierce were. seems to me that a helicopter could
    cover more ground then a speed boat, but then again ---- this is soap
    land!

    I agree!  That speedboat scene was too much!  I'm pretty sure that Greg
    and Mac come out of the water - but, can't figure out if Pierce is
    going to sink to the bottom or not.  If he does, you know he will
    probably be back in the future!!!!  
    
    I don't remember the scene with the kids in the car??? I must have
    missed it.  I hope the kids don't get KIDNAPED! (No pun intended!!)
    
    I will miss Knotts tonite!
    
    Later, Lera
    

    I'm devastated.  The cable company screwed up and disconnected my
    cable yesterday.  They won't come back out and fix it unless I am
    there and the soonest I can be there and coordinate with with their 
    repair schedule is next Monday afternoon.  
    
    If anyone is planning to watch Knots tonight, please, please, please 
    put an update in tomorrow.  I will be eternally grateful, really.
    
    Jan

    Jan, It wasn't on.  At least not here on the east coast.  Basketball
    tournments.  They're on next week too.   Ugh!!!!  So, no Knots again
    next week.  Boo!!!
    
    
    Cheryl

    Thanks,  I went home last night and spent at least an hour trying
    to figure out how to reconnect the regular antenna.  Did finally 
    get it connected and after alot of wire jiggling, was actually able 
    to get a reasonable fascimile of a picture on CBS; only to discover
    that basketball was on.
    
    Jan  

    I am bummed about Knots not being on this week, again!!!!!!!! *^)
    Can't wait to watch it.  Looks like it should be on not this
    Thursday, but next.
    
    We all have to wait another week.  They knew the right ending to
    keep us wondering. *^)
    
    Tracey
    
    
    

    
    
    	It's not on again??!!  I suppose it's because of basketball
    	or something??!  Bad enough it took away Guiding Light for
    	two days......harumph!  
    
    	JJ
    

    I thought those games would be over by now!  Bummer!!
    

    At lunch today ...we were talking about the basketball games...
    and after a small debate they all agreed that the games will be
    on this weekend taking the week off and resume Monday (I believe)
    ..the winner Monday wins the championship.
    
    Have a good weekend.

    Yes, Knots is on next week and resumes were we left off two weeks ago. 
    Should be a good one!!!
    
    Cheryl

    In today's Boston Herald it says that Knot's has been renewed - that
    squashes the rumor that it is being cancelled.
    
    Also, Joan Van Ark (Val) has done a pilot for a new sitcom so if the
    sitcom is picked up then she will be leaving.  Someone from Knot's said
    that she was allowed to do that and they are trying to get her a new
    contract.
    
    bk
    

    I can't believe it's ending already.  I just read in next week's TV
    Guide that next week's show (4/9/92) is that last of the season and of
    course, will end with cliffhangers.  Wow, only 2 shows left to watch
    this season!!!!!
    
    Cheryl

    Cheryl-->>  I can't believe it only 2 shows left.  Wow did this
    season go fast.  I thought they usually ended sometime in the
    beginning of May.  Maybe it is because they started on time this
    season.  
    
    Should be pretty interesting these next 2 shows.  Can't wait
    now to watch.  How can they do this to us ending so soon, I'm
    not ready yet!!!!!!!!!!!! *^)  What will I watch on Thursday's
    now!!!!!!!!!!!! *^)
    
    Tracey
    

    Maybe it seems like they're ending so soon because we really
    didn't get a full season.  Think back on how many times Knots
    was pre-empted for one stupid reason or another.  A couple of
    weeks during the Olympics, a couple of weeks for the basketball
    stuff and who can remember the rest of the times prior to those
    
    Jan

    	Please, if anyone can tell me, Who is this new woman?  Greg was
    really concerned about her being out of jail.  What connection does she
    have to Greg and his life to make him concerned?
    
    	I think that Claudia has met her match in Alex.  Just when she
    thinks she has the upper hand, Alex does something to bring her right
    back down.  I hope for Katie's sake that she smartens up and finds Alex
    with the room mate.  Those two were made for one another - Just leave
    Kate alone!!!
    
    PB

                      <<< Note 20.552 by MAGEE::BURGESS >>>
                            -< Who is this woman? >-

    	Please, if anyone can tell me, Who is this new woman?  Greg was
    really concerned about her being out of jail.  What connection does she
    have to Greg and his life to make him concerned?
    
    ***** This new woman is the one who contacted Val about Laura and
	  her son being the parents of Meg.  I think there might be
	  something there, considering he was pretty concerned when he 
	  made the call saying you were suppose to tell me when she
	  got out of jail.
	
	  Hmmmm! where is this story going?

	After waiting two weeks it wasn't as good as I hoped 
	
	They had a few turns I didn't expect.
	
	The part with Pierce was all a dream.  The way Greg was acting,
	he said he saw Laura when he was drowning.  Then he kept away
	from Paige.
  
	I felt bad for Anne (even though she did this to herself)
	I think she is feeling replaced by Karen, and she doesn't like 
	it much.  I laughed when she said well
	I made you pancakes once that looked like Mickey Mouse.  

	I still HATE Vanessa.  Trying to befriend Kate and acting like
	she wanted to be her friend and listen about the development
	of a relationship between she and Alex.  She is trouble!  
	ICK! I knew a girl like her once.

	Claudia has met her match with this one.  They never showed 
	Claudia ripping the bed apart like in the previews, unless I
	dozed off for a minute.  I was fighting to say awake.  But,
	I taped it so I'll watch it to see what I missed.  
	
	Is next week really the last.  I wonder what is goign to happen 
	with Meg.  In the previews it showed her taking to that women (?)
	and everyone being concerned for Meg's safety.

	Well, we shall see.  
	
	Have a great weekend all!


	Cyndi

    I also wonder about this women and who she really is and what 
    connections she could have with Greg and Laura's past.  It was
    pretty wierd.
    
    I like the ending with Greg and Paige kissing they make a GREAT
    couple.  They really click together and I wish they would just
    get married.  
    
    If next weeks is the last one it didn't look like the week for
    the clifthanger, but I guess I'll have to wait and see.  
    
    I couldn't believe how bad Vanessa is.  I thought it was real
    funny when Kate was talking to Vanessa and she was saying she
    was interested in Alex.  Then Vanessa keeps prying to find out
    if anything happened and Kate says they just kissed and her
    mother walks in.  Vanessa then tells her that Alex probably
    felt like he had to kiss her, so he did.
    
    When Kate told Vanessa she is going to be more forward and
    Vanessa says and do what, when Kate said be like you I thought
    that was a great line. *^)
    
    I wonder if Pierce is gone for good now.  I hate when they
    don't find a body you know that means they still could be
    alive and I can't stand Pierce, YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    Tracey
    

    Also, in the previews it shows that "woman" still alive, contrary to
    the newspaper article that Val had.  Then Gregg makes a call stating
    "why did'nt you notify me that she was out of jail, your in big
    trouble".  Then it shows him thinking of Laura again.  I can't figure
    it out either.  
    
    You can see the pain in Ann's eyes when she makes remarks about Gregg,
    especially to Paige.  I think she fell for him hard.  I don't think she
    will make a scene though.  She wants Paige to be happy.
    
    Its hard to say what will happen next, especially if its the last show.
    
    See ya,
    
    Lera  

    I think that we should start thinking of possible cliffhangers. Let's
    see....
    
    	1) Something is going to happen with Meg and that woman. Maybe she
    thinks that her son and Laura had an affair and that Meg is really her
    grandchild
    
    	2) Miss I have no clue about life Kate will end up marrying Alex.
    What better way to get back at Claudia for belittling him in front of
    everyone at the Board mtg
    
    	3) Maybe Val will end up missing. Afterall next week's preview has
    her packing her bags...maybe this will be the way for Val to get out of
    Knot's and get on with her other show (didn't someone mention that Val
    was going to have a spin-off show or am I totally brain cramped this
    morning)
    
    	4) Since no body was found, could Anne stoop to new depths and send
    mail to Paige from Pierce just so she can get Greg back
    
    	5) I wonder if Vanessa or Claudia will end up pregnant from
    Alex..how cozy...Alex marries Kate, has a child by Claudia which would
    be what relation to Kate? What better way to keep Alex away from Kate!!
    	
    	6) Will Gregg and Paige tie the knot????
    
    Only the writers know for sure!
    
    
    peg

    
    I saw a blurp yesterday re; the previews for Thursday and YUP, this is
    indeed the season finale'.  Not only does it seem REAL early this year,
    but there were a bunch of weeks where Knots wasn't even on!!!!!!
    
    In the scene's I saw ... Spoiler warning 
    
    
    
    Greg QUITS!  Yup, he was talking to Claudia and says "I Quit"!
    
    Paige's eyes are buldging out of her head (could she have just seen
    Pierce??)
    
    Karen is running around the neighborhood/park screaming for Meg ... Meg
    is waiving to that woman who's behind a fence asking her to "come
    here".
    
    Should be a good one!
                        

    
    I don't do so well with predictions so I won't even try.  I do hope its
    a good episode that'll keep us on the edge of our seats until next
    season.
    
    I liked last week's show.  I thought it was nice to see Greg act human. 
    I wasn't a big KL fan during his marriage to Laura but boy did he love
    her!
    
    I couldn't believe how thin Frank is.  Since he's back on the show I
    figure he's doing OK healthwise.  I hope that is the case.  I also
    couldn't believe how thick Meg's hair is - I noticed it when she had it
    in a braid.
    
    Maybe it's me being a bit old fashioned but I would think Claudia would
    be more embarrassed about sleeping with Alex.
                                  
    And Vannessa still bugs me.  I couldn't believe it when Kate said
    she'll act like her to get Alex - this wasn't very Kate-like.  Does
    Kate know they've slept together?
    
    ...Rania

    I'm sure that Kate has an idea something happened, but it wasn't
    confirmed by either Vanessa or Alex. 
    
    I read through the tv guide last night and forget what they said. All I
    can remember is that one marriage is in trouble (Val takes off and
    doesn't tell Gary), another marriage is possible (could it be alex/Kate
    or Paige/Gregg)....
    
    I'll have to take the tv guide from my folks and write it down
    tonight...I still can't believe it is the end....
    
    maybe with the changing of the writers during the season, they thought
    it was best to end early and start on next year
    
    
    peg

	Well, this is it!  The previews they have been showing seem very
	interesting.  The shocked look on Paige's face at the end of
	the previews seem as though Pierce will show himself one last
	time.

	Something is going to happen with Meg you can tell. They have 
	lead us right into her being kidnapped by that lady.  Forget her
	name.

	I will try to stay up for this one.  Maybe, I can do
	an update in the a.m. Not as good as Tracey but I'll try.

	Have a wonderful Knots filled night.

	Cyndi

	

    The good news is that it's been renewed for 22 episodes next
    season!!!!!
    
    Cheryl

    Cheryl-->>  That is a bright side I am glad we will have more
    Knots. *^)
    
    Tonights should be a good one, but I still hate to see it end.
    
    
    Tracey
    

    I was disappointed with last nights show.  I do not like the way they
    change Greg.  This is really stupid.  Three weeks ago he was declaring
    his love for Paige and then he chases her because he can not stand the
    thought of something happening to her and now all of a sudden because
    he came near death, he does not feel the same and can stay away from
    her.  Why is he quiting the business.  The part with Meg is dump to me. 
    Why would Greg and this guy pick the woman up near Meg's school warn
    her and then she just goes right back there and then Meg disappears. 
    It would seem like the guy Gregg hired would prevent that....Of course
    I do not believe she has Meg.  I believe we are to think that but Meg
    will just be at some other part of the school.  Does no one in the
    entire town of Knots Landing lock there expenses cars these days. 
    There is always someone inside the car and no one every looks in the
    car before getting in.  Frank looks terrible.  With the large wieght
    lost he should get different glasses or contacts...I thought it was
    also strange that Anne decided that quickly to go after Gregg once he
    dump Paige....Well this is my two cents worth.
    
    I will write back later with a update but I am not sure how you do
    spoiler warnings so I will wait a while...

    I must have missed a show.  
    The last show I saw was Pierce, Greg, and Mac struggling in the water. 
    Whatever happened here?  Can someone please fill me in on what happened
    from this point, up until last nights episode?
    
    Thanx in advance !
    
    Rhonda 

    Hi 
    
    I watch KL in the UK and we are about four years behind, I have been
    reading your notes and I am dying to know what happens to Abbey. 
    Please could someone let me know,
    
    Many thanks
    Fiona

    Hi , 
    Is there a chance for an update.  I looked forward to being able
    to watch last night show and i had to work and no one taped it for me.
    
    
    thanks 
    suzanne

    i'll an update a try (a partial one anyway)
    
    
    greg calls claudia, paige, karen and mack to his office.  he tells them
    that he is quitting and that he is giving 1/3 of the company to paige,
    1/3 to claudia, and 1/3 to meg (with karen/mack to act as trustees.
    they were all in shock.  then he was walking and talking with kate and
    gave her a bank passbook.  didn't say how much money was in it.  its an
    erie feeling. almost like he's saying goodbye to everyone.  like he
    planning on suicide.  after last weeks mentions of laura...
    
    the fact that claudia, paige and k/m all have 1/3 of the company is
    going to lead to some power struggles.  k/m have no idea what the
    sumner group is all about.  claudia is telling that its main purpose is
    research and development.  paige walks in and says the main purpose is
    aquisitions and ?.  should provide some comic releif next season. 
    claudia has already moved into greg's office.  paige had packed up her
    stuff and brought it into greg's office to find claudia there.  after
    some words paige storms back to her office.  but as she leaves she
    pulls down the curtains on the window.  remember paige and gregs
    offices were visible to each other.
    
    gary gets a job with a construction company that builds housing for the
    homeless/needy.  when he gets home with the news val is packing a bag.
    she's going to florida to look for mary robeson's son.  he doesn't have
    a chance to tell her that the job is in michigan...  he tells karen
    though and it sounds like he wants to take it.
    
    val goes to florida to find mary's son. the address she has is for the
    womens prison!  val finds out from talking to an inmate who knew mary
    that mary was laura's mother!  she calls karen and tells her to find
    meg and keep an eye on her.  that a dangerous woman is in knots landing
    looking for meg.  karen and gary go to the school to get the kids. 
    bobby/betsy/meg are in line waiting to get on the bus.  meg sees mary
    and mary motions for meg to come to her.  meg goes.  karen and gary
    show up and can't find meg.  b/b didn't see her leave.
    
    there was more, but i forget...
    it was a good show, but not worthy of a seasons cliffhanger.  hoepfully
    next year will get better.  oh yea, frank was on for a couple of
    scenes.
    
    ann

    re - a few back
    
    Fiona - Abby gets offered an ambassadorship to some country in the Far
    East I think...she is just shown driving off in her limo. I can't
    remember if she had married gregg or not by then.
    
    re - a few back
    
    the water scene - the show opens with Mac and Paige trying to revive
    Gregg...too much water in the lungs I think...they finally get him and
    he tells them that he almost didn't make it....Pierce's body was never
    found!
    
    about the update - well we finally see Alex and Kate doing the
    wildthing. Vanessa comes in the morning and sees Alex walking around
    in his BVD's...her commment was something like...first you bed the
    madien's mother, then the maiden's best friend and now the maiden
    herself...the knight's sword is going to be rather busy isn't it!!!!
    what a great line...
    
    Claudia realizes that Alex and Kate are sleeping together...she wants
    him to stop or she will tell Kate that they have slept together too!
    Alex tells Claudia that he has real feelings for her and vice versa.
    Claudia fires Alex only to have Paige, who is standing at the office
    door and watching all of this, rehire Alex and have him work for her.
    At the end of the show, Alex intercepts a memo from Claudia informing
    everyone that Paige's duties will be limited. Paige storms out of the
    office to go find gregg, gets in her car, looks in the rear view mirror
    and sees PIERCE.....is this just a flashback or what???
    
    Laura's mother shows up at the school to talk to Meg (you would have
    thought that Karen and Mac would have told her not to talk to strangers
    by now) and makes some comment about how Meg will get to know her soon.
    The lady (Mary) kind of waves her finger at Meg (definate foreshadowing
    here)....later on at the playground, Meg is waiting in line with Betsy
    and Bobby to go home...Meg turns, sees someone, smiles and wiggles her
    finger just like the way Mary did it to her....I think that Gregg has
    showed up and will be taking Meg away with him.
    
    Looks like Gary and Val might be leaving, with his job offer
    in Michigan, he told Karen he would go with or without his family...
    
    I was a little disappointed, but hope that next years will be better.
    the stupid storylines (Tidal Energy, the prof and Kate and even psycho
    man Pierce) are gone hopefully and we can get Knots back to where it
    used to be!
    
    peg

    
    re; -1 for Fiona > Abby is now living in Japan.  There was a time I 
    thought she'd make guest appearances, but none so far!  I believe she
    and Greg divorced prior to her leaving (it never was a 'love' marriage
    anyway ... strickly business I believe).
    
    re; Greg > I have this real strange feeling that William Devane is
    tired of KL and possibly deciding whether or not he wants to return
    next season.  It seems they've set the storyline in such a way to
    accommodate either decision ...
    
    re; Val & Gary > Same feeling as I have with William Devane ... Joan
    Van Ark has been going back and forth with leaving for a few years now!
    
    
    If these three characters leave, Michele Lee (Karen) will be the last
    remaining original character (and IMO, the show will be off the aire
    after next season). 
    
    I love this show and hope they get their act together!!
    
    All on all, the season finale' was OK given what they had to go on!
    
    BjM
    

    Hi
    
    Many thanks to Peg and BjM for the info on Abbey, here in the uk she and Greg have
    just married.  I love this series and hope that Gary and Val stay as
    this series was based on them when they left Dallas.  At least I know
    that I have another few years of watching.
    
    Fiona

    Fiona-->>  Just a curious question why do you think in UK you are
    4 years behind?!?!??!?!?!  I can't believe you would be that behind
    there on Knots.
    
    I hope this isn't a dumb question I am just curious. *^)  Is it
    like that for Soap Operas on in the Daytime as well?!?!?!?!?
    Do you have all the programs we have here?!?!?!?!?!
    
    Tracey
    
                                                       

    >Hi Tracey
    
    I think we are about 4 years behind because in one of the episodes I
    thought I heard a mention that it was 1988.  In the UK we are upto Greg
    marrying Abbey, Val is trying to prove that Jill tried to kill her and
    that Gary is starting to believe Val.  
    
    We don't seem to have the same daytime soaps as you, infact most of our
    daytime soaps are Australian which I don't like.  We used to have
    Dallas, Dynesty, Colbys but they have finished (I think they have in
    the USA).  We still have LA Law which I love and that is on tonight. 
    We also have Cagney and Lacey, 30 something, Cheers, Rosanne, Golden
    Girls, Equaliser. We used to have Falcon Crest but I never into that
    one.  
    
    One last thing Knotts Landing is on in the daytime here so my boyfriend
    has to record it for me.
    
    Regards
    fiona

    Fiona-->>Hi, thanks for the info. in the UK. *^)  That is really
    different how behind you are in television shows.  You are 
    most definetely in 1988 of KL cause all of that happened awhile
    ago.
    
    Those other shows that you get some of them are no longer on
    here in the US.  I would have to get use to that style of 
    tv there.  However, having no Soap Operas like we have during
    the day here would kill me!!!!!!!!!!!! *^)
    
    Thanks again for explaining the UK television. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    

    
    re; .572 > Fiona, Yup, sounds like you're several years behind, but I
    just have to say that the storylines with Jill were the BEST in all my
    years of watching Knots!  Your in for a treat next season (I think)
    where a new character named DANNY get's hooked up with Val [I won't say
    more 'cuz I don't want to spoil it for you].  This too was one of
    Knots' best.
    
    Everyone remember the DANNY Storyline ..... ?  Wasn't it a great one!
     

    Here is the states Knots comes on during the day also and is four years
    behind.  The night times Knots is the one that is up to date.  So in
    the UK you are probably getting the rerun Knots that we see during the
    day time hours.  I actually liked knots better then then now.
    
    I thought the season's ending was terrible this time.  No real
    suspense.  I truly feel it will turn out to be Greg that took Megan
    otherwise it would be dumb.  I mean why would Greg threaten that lady
    and let her go and then not have someone watch her since he found her
    by Meg's school.  Also, he always waves at her with one finger.  I hope
    Anne and Greg to not get back together!!!!! I want him or Tom to be
    with Paige.
    
    

    I hate Thursday's now!!!  I can't stand having no Knots to look forward
    to every week.  They ended it much too early in the season.  I wish
    they would at least start showing some reruns of Knots for us to watch.
    That would be better than no Knots at all.
    
    Oh well!  I just thought I would get that off my chest.
    
    Bye till next season.
    
    Cheryl

    Cheryl-->>  I agree they ended it way to soon.  The only good 
    thing is at least on Thursday's they have a new show on at the
    same time as Knots and it is called Human Factor.
    
    It is really a good show.  I enjoyed the season premier of it
    last Thursday and look forward to watching it tonight.  Even
    though its not Knots.
    
    I can't wait until next season ither for Knots.  It will be
    here before long and then summer will be over, I don't want
    that, I love SUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *^)
    
    Tracey
    
    

    
    Well, here's the scoop on 'Frank'!!  We've all noticed how 'sick' 
    he's been looking and of course the massive weight loss so here's 
    the story.
    
    ??? Reily (can't remember his 1st name) was on Entertainment Tonight
    yesterday and this is what he had to say.  He was on a liquid diet
    & developed serious kidney problems as a result.  His kidneys eventually
    shut down and he was unable to eat or drink anything.  According to his
    doctors, he was 10 day from death when his wife got him to go to the
    hospital where he went through dialisis (sp?).  He's out of the woods
    now and slowly gaining back some of the 70 lbs he lost!!!  WOW!
    					    ==============
    
    The only reason his personal health problem was brought out was because
    he received a phone call from the National Enquirer.  They wanted him
    to confess to having AIDS.  They told him they'd rather hear it from
    him as apposed to printing it without confirmation.  This is when he
    decided to 'tell the world' what REALLY happened.  Sounds a little
    familiars huh?---> this is what the press did to that tennis player
    too!
    
    In addition, 'Frank' was in tears as he read the numerous fan letters
    of support and get well wishes.  he was so overwhelmed, because he
    never thought he had fans ..... he was literally crying as he said "I
    didn't know I had real fans, look at these letters and there all
    addressed to ME!"
    
    BjM

    Hi,
    
    Do any of you readers happen to have the replies to this note from
    before #231 stored perhaps in a file somewhere? Here in France, we are 
    at least 2 seasons behind you; some of the characters you mention have 
    not even appeared yet. I would like to see what happened after last 
    year's cliff hangar (here), but I am afraid that the answer lies in
    the replies to this note that are no longer (-231).
    
    :-(
    
    Thanks for any replies.
    
    
    BONNET::LEBIDOIS
    CLARID::LEBIDOIS
    Genevieve LeBidois @VBO

    Ca Va,
    
    Unfortunately, the notes before 231 have been deleted in order to make
    more room for current notes and updates (as discussed in topic #1 by
    the moderators)!  Go to the history file and fill in where you are in
    the story line and hopefully there will be some replies!
    
    Have a good day!
    
    Lera
    

    I went to Aruba last year, and Knots Landing was on there.  About 3
    years behind us. It was funny, they  all spoke Spainish. 

    
    I just heard Larry Riley (Frank Williams) died last night of kidney
    failure due to Aids complications.  He leaves a wife and daughter.
                                                     
    ...Rania

    That is so sad.  He was a great part of the show and I will really miss
    him.
    
    Cheryl

    That's too bad about Frank.  We knew something was wrong with him, with
    all the weight he lost.  I knew we had discussed it before, so I looked
    back and note #578 said he had been confronted with the Aids story, but
    had said it was from kidney problems caused by a liquid diet.  I guess
    he didn't want to have it in the papers.  
    
    I wonder how they will write him out of the show.  Didn't Julie go to
    live with relatives?  This is going to be a long summer without Knots!!
    
    
    Cheryl

    I was sorry to find out about Frank yesterday.  I was really very
    shocked considering he tried to cover it up.  I feel bad for his
    wife and child.  His family is going to be asked alot of questions
    from lots of reporters I'm sure.
    
    That must have been hard for him to go on Entertainment Tonight
    and say what he did knowing that he was covering up the truth.
    
    I hope he didn't suffer to badly.  This is going to leave Knots
    with another opening for a new storyling to replace.  I really
    can't wait to see what new storylines they are going to come
    up with.
    
    
    Tracey
    
    

    I was shocked to read his obituary too!  I was disappointed with the
    fact that he covered up his illness, I totally believed him.  
    
    I really liked him this year.  I thought he and Peggy were funny. 
    Remember when they thought they won the lottery and they were all
    singing drinking champagne and smoking cigars?
    
    Karen

    
    I never heard how he contracted AIDS.  Was it from a blood transfusion,
    drugs, unsafe sex?
    
    I can't blame him for not telling the media the truth.  What would he
    and his family gain by confirming the rumors that he has AIDS?
    
    ...Rania

    Now you understand the probable reason for writing his "daughter" out.

    According to PEOPLE magazine the only people who knew he had AIDS was
    his wife and doctor.  The people on Knot's were led to believe it was
    kidney failure from high blood pressure.  The reason he didn't want
    anyone to know was his fear of not working.  He was due to return for
    this season so they weren't holding his illness against him.
    
    Also in the story his wife of 4 years (tested negative), said that he
    has known for about 2 years and he was not a drug user, gay, bisexual,
    etc.  He figured he got from another woman since he was a womanizer.
    
    bk
    

I am one of Knots Landing's BIGGEST fans - I have 10 FULL seasons of KL on 
videotape (approx. 35 T160 tapes) !!! During the Fall, I plan my whole life 
around Thursday nites !

I am DESPERATELY looking for KL souvenirs:
	Coffee mugs		Posters	
	Pictures		T-Shirts
	The Book ("Knots Landing - The Saga Of Seaview Circle by Laura Van 
Wormer, Dolphin/Doubleday Books; (I need an extra copy))
		   ANYTHING  !!!
 				

Does anyone know if there is a KL Fan Club ??? 


			KL TRIVIA QUIZ

1.)  What is the name of Michael Fairgate's first girlfriend ?
2.)  Who lives at: (Original and current occupants)
	16972 Seaview Circle
	16974 Seaview Circle
	16976 Seaview Circle
	16978 Seaview Circle
3.)  What is the name of the company that Abby formed with Gary's new 	
	inheritance ?
4.)  Where is it located ?
5.)  List Abby's full name.
6.)  Where did the name "Knots" Landing come from ?
7.)  How are Karen and Abby related ?
8.)  How did Ciji die ?
9.)  What is the name of the Cable TV station that Abby owns ?
10.) Where did Ben and Valene meet ?
11.) Where does Kathy Geary go to leave the show ?
12.) Where does Diana go to leave the show ?
13.) What is Karen's brother's name ? Where does he live ?
14.) What is the name of the couple that receives Val's twins (first&last 
	names).
15.) Where do Kenny and Ginger go to leave the show ?
16.) What is Kenny's job ?
17.) What is Laura's bosses name at the Real Estate agency ?
18.) What does he give her as a christmas gift ?
19.) What is the name of the restaurant that Laura's husband opens ?
20.) What are there kids names ?

Have fun - If you can give me the answer to my questions, I'll post the 
answers to the Trivia questions...

More Trivia in a few weeks...

Paul W	

    does anyone know when Knot's Landing will be starting up again???? my
    withdrawals are getting worse.....
    
    
    peg

    heard on the radio this morning that Nicollette Sheridan (Paige) and
    her husband, Harry Hamlin are splitting up...she has been seen with...
    I think I'm gonna hurl on this one....Michael Bolton....come on
    Paige...him????????? his hair is digusting and he WHINES when he sings!
    just my opinion of course...
    
    peg

    
    You beat me to it Peg.  I too felt ill when I heard she was being seen
    with Michael Bolton.  Ditto on everything you said about him.
    
    ...Rania
    

    
    And now, for even more bad news.
    
    It appears that ABC has decided to pit Homefront against Knots
    Landing this year (at least in my area).  They've just announced
    that Homefront will be on Thursdays at 9:00 which just happens to
    be the day and time Knots is on.  Now I just have to keep my fingers
    crossed that CBS will decide to move Knots.  Homefront is a really
    good show.  Looks like Knots will have their work cut out for them
    to bring the show up to its former caliber.
    
    Jan                            

    I think Knot's will do okay...let's see, what can they do for
    storylines....
    
    first of all, somehow bring Paige and Gregg back together...they have
    dynamite carma and I think everyone enjoys seeing them together. Of
    course with Anne being pregnant will add quite the nice
    twist...afterall wasn't one of the reasons Gregg said he couldn't marry
    Paige was becuz he was "fixed" and couldn't have kids???????
    
    Claudia could be turned into a brunette Abby..she's sly, cunning, and
    will boink her way to the top
    
    Mac and Karen and Val and Gary need to get a life!!!!! Is Gary leaving?
    wasn't he suppose to take a construction job somewhere in the East or
    something? 
    
    I think there needs to be a good who-dunnit....remember when Peter was
    around and we all had to figure out who placed him in the concrete??
    and who could ever forget JILL??????????  storylines like that got us
    all going..
    
    Even though Pierce is creepy, he does have a habit of popping up
    everywhere. they could definately do something with this...
    
    any suggestions on possible storylines??? we all know that Gregg picked
    up Meg and not that whacked old woman....
    
    it's gotta be starting soon, don't the night soaps usually start around
    beginning to middle of Sept????
    
    
    peg

    I'm sure Knots will be okay if they get the storylines back on track.  
    Its just that I'm totally hooked on both Homefront and Knots Landing 
    and the way my cable is set up I can't tape one channel while watching
    another.  Guess this is the catalyst I need to dump that Basic Plus
    cable box and go back to plain basic A/B switch so I can tape and watch
    at the same time.
    
    Jan 

    
    Back to the gossip pages about Nicolette (Paige)....I hear it's
    definite about her and Bolton.  Didn't she and Hamlin just have a baby? 
    If so, what????
                                                 
    Rania_still_disgusted_about_her_and_the_whiner

    I don't think they have any kids...saw him on Larry King talk show 
    awhile ago and he mentioned how happy he and Nicolette were...someone
    needs to shake that woman and wake her up...don't know what it is about
    Mr Bolton...not too long ago he was seen with Gabrella Sabatini (very
    attractive Argentia tennis player)....when I look at Mr Bolton, I
    desperately want to heave!!!!!
    
    

    I'm really confused, weren't we discussing how Paige was going to cover
    up her pregnancy during the Knot's episodes?  No big deal, just
    wondering if I'm losing it!  (And too lazy to re-read previous notes).
    
    re: Bolton.  Although I can't stand his singing I got to admit I liked
    the man I saw in an Oprah Winfrey interview.  He seemed quiet and not
    very taken by all his female admirer's. 
    
    ...Rania
    

    I just got the latest SOD.  It says that the whacko woman will be
    hanging around Knots for awhile and causing some trouble.  It also
    said that Greg ( William Devane) will be doing some directing.
    
    Ok, I'm a Michael Bolton fan......  Personally, I wouldn't mind being
    on his arm.  Just my opinion though.
    
    Mel  

    There was an article in the Celebrity section of newspaper just
    this week stating that Harry H. and Nicolette S. are doing just
    fine and Harry's agent (I believe that what they call him) says
    that he knows nothing about Nicolette and Michael Bolton.  He went
    on to stay that they are happier than ever. There was even a 
    picture of the two of the holding hands go to some premiere 
    movie.

I put in a note a while ago saying that here in France we are soooo
behind the times with Knots (2 seasons).

Well, they have been showing episodes every day for about 4-5 months 
(in the afternoon) and now we seem to have caught up with you in the 
U.S.!

I look forward to tomorrows episode that, according to you all, will
be the last.

P.S. I have a friend who knows Paige and who said that she and Harry
are together and happy. In fact, my friend is Stacy Galina, and she
is not an actress by trade, but rather a ballet dancer. For the record,
she is just as sweet in real life as she is in the show.

    heard on the radio this morning that Michael Bolton is in concert at
    Great Woods in Mansfield, Ma this weekend. The reporter said to keep an
    eye out for his new gal pal Nicollete Sherdian who will be backstage at
    the show! hhmmm.....wonder what's going on!!!!
    
    re - a few back....Paige is pregnant?? did I miss something?? I know
    that Anne is suppose to be pregnant but I didn't realize Paige was...
    I'm sooooo confused
    
    
    
    peg

    also read in the latest people magazine that Nicollete and Harry are
    splitting...no comment from the Michael Bolton camp!

    
    
    	Well personally, if Nicolette decides to give Michael
    	up and go back to Harry, she can toss him my way!
    
    	Saw him at GW Saturday.....excellent show and the man looks
    	simply mahvelous in black jeans..... (IMO)
    
    	JJ
    
    

    reply-1
    
    yes but what did his HAIR look like????????

    People, we need to keep to the subject of Knots Landing please.  There
    have been too many notes about Michael Bolton and this is definitely
    off the subject of Knots.
    
    Thanks.
    
    Cheryl

    To Bonnet::Lebidois
    
    Wow, I was just reading back and noticed that your friend is Stacy
    Galina who plays (I just drew a blank but it's Claudia's daughter and
    Greg's niece.)  I can't believe I missed that.  She's a pretty good
    actress for a ballet dancer!!
    
    So, what do you all think about Joan Van Ark leaving the show.  She and
    Larry Riley were involved in one of last season's cliff hangers (with
    Laura's mother) so I wonder how they are going to write both her and
    Larry out and still keep the plot going.  This will be interesting.
    
    I still want Tom back, the cop.  He was a hunk!!
    
    Cheryl

    so who is NOT coming back this season???
    
    Frank - very sad
    Val?
    Gary?
    Laura's Mother?
    Frank's daughter?
    Ross Perot?
    
    Inquiring minds want to know!
    

I just read in Soap Opera Weekly that Nick (Lorenzo Caccialanza) will be 
returning to stir up trouble with Anne.  He was asked back and is thrilled to
be on the show again!!!

Nancy

    Great news about Nick's returning to Knots!  I always liked him.
    
    Nancy

    
    
    
    Ann is pregnant???
    My memory banks must be blank....and you say it was Greg...was this
    revealed on the last show?
    
    Nick and Ann were made for each other....they almost had the same
    charisma as Paige and Greg....looks like a steamy season ahead.
    
    el

     el -->>  On the last show it showed her taking the pregnancy
    test and it being positive that was the end.
    
    I agree though that she and Nick were great together.  He will
    add something to the show that is for sure.  They are going to
    need some new stories this season seeing as though some people
    won't be there.
    
    Can't wait for the season to start. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    

    I also remember Greg telling Paige that he cannot have children,
    although I never remember him having a vasectomy.  According to Star
    magazine (very reliable!) Val will be killed in a car accident in
    Florida.  
    
    Karen
    

    
    Now I remember...thanks for the jolt.
    
    Hopefully they will keep the comical Ann/Nick act going!
    
    ..el

    I think the reason Gregg told Paige he couldn't have children was that
    so she would loose interest in him. I know that Claudia had something
    to do with this.
    
    So if Val gets killed and Gary is suppose to take a construction job
    somewhere, will Mac and Karen (who have no lives) be adopting Bobby and
    Betsy so Meg can have someone to play with?????
    
    Is Pierce alive or is Paige just thinking that he is in the backseat of
    her car?????
    
    
    peg

    To elaborate on the Star article, I believe they said that Alex would
    save Paige from Pierce.  It didn't say anything about Gary leaving,
    just Val.
    
    Karen
    

    re-1
    
    Karen
    
    remember at the end of last years show, gary was speaking with karen
    and he mentioned that he had an offer to do construction somewhere out
    west possibly but didn't get a chance to speak with Val for she was on
    her way to Florida?
    
    
    hmm.....wonder what the new season is going to bring? anyone think that
    eventually Paige and Gregg will end up back together or are they just
    going to tease us for awhile?

    According to the Soaps grapevine, Joan Van Ark will NOT be returning to
    the show this year.  I guess she'll make a few appearances in order to
    wrap things up.  I figure she will either move with Gary or they'll kill
    her off.  I didn't here anything about Gary (Ted) leaving the show so
    my guess is that she'll end up dying.  It is so Saaaaaaaad!  I've been
    watching this show from day 1.  I hope that Paige and Greg do get
    together.  I just love the way they are with eachother.  I can't wait
    until the new season starts.  Anyone know when?  

    
    Star article ... what's comin'
    
    spoiler....
    
    
    (keep in mind that this WAS in the STAR and may not be totally
    accurate)
    
    Yes, Val dies in a car crash in Flordia.  Gary finds out she's been
    kidnapped and rushes to FL to save her.  When he gets to where she's
    being held, he sees the kidnappers pushing her into a car.  As he's
    following the car, it crashes and bursts into flames.  Gary watches in
    horror as Val burns up in the vehicle.  I guess Karen gives the eulogy 
    and it's supposed to be a real tear jerker!
    
    re; Greg/Anne/Paige > Greg agrees to marry Anne who says she's pregnant
    with his child.  She plans the wedding and as the day approaches she
    finds out she's not pregnant, but decides not to tell Greg.  The
    morning of the wedding, Greg is on his way to the church and gets cold
    feet.  All the guests have arrived and Greg decides to take off and go
    see Paige.  He lets himself into her apartment to find her in bed with
    some guy (there's supposeably a new love interest joining the show). 
    Greg gets back to the church right as some of the guests are getting
    ready to leave (the article never says for sure if the wedding even
    takes place)!  <I believe Paige skipped the wedding because she probably 
    decided it was too hard for her to see her mother marry the man SHE
    loved>>.
    
    Sounds like it's gonna be an interesting season, but I have to say that
    I'm really gonna miss Val.
    
    BjM
    
    BTW:  Val dying happens sometime in October
          The 'wedding' happens in November
    
     
    

    thanks for the update.....I'm guessing that sometime next week, the
    24th maybe, the show starts. I checked the old tv guide last night and
    didn't see any Knots listed for Thursday night...
    
    I wonder if Claudia will try to get her hooks into Gary...or what about
    her daughter..what is her name...Kate, yes that's it....wonder if
    she'll show some interest in Gary to get away from what ever his name
    is..
    
    gawd, it's been so long I can't even remember names anymore...oh yes, 
    Alex..that's it.. 

    
    Yes...I like that one...Kate and Gary.  Remember when she was dating
    the professor ...I don't remember what they were discussing..but there
    was one sceen that could have taken a romantic turn.  If they do, I
    sure Claudia would most certainly have something to say about it.
    
    I think Claudia will be too busy fighting with Paige about the business
    to go after Gary.
    
    O well, just my thoughts.
    
    el
    

    I don't think Kate could catch a fly with her look!  She needs to do
    something with that stringy boring hair of hers.  She should enroll in
    the Abbey Cunningham-Ewing-Sumner school of beauty!  Maybe this year
    will be different.  I can't wait!!!!

    Claudia and Anne don't get along do they? There should be some pretty
    good scenes with the both of them now that Anne is going to be the
    future Mrs Gregg Sumner....and how is Gregg going to explain to Paige
    that he fathered a child when supposedly he couldn't have anymore
    children??????
    
    I think Alex and Paige would make a great couple...I can't see Gregg
    being faithful to Anne and if Paige and Alex hook up, Claudia could be
    in for another round of battles...
    
    And yes, do something with Kate...maybe have her get pregnant by
    Alex..won't that throw Claudia into a major tizzy fit!
    
    Mack and Karen need a life...I liked it when someone was stalking
    Karen..at least it gave them something to do. Will Jason ever come back
    or is he gone for good? With psycho-woman running around after Meg,
    maybe something can be done with this storyline? maybe something around
    missing children? 
    
    can't wait..
    
    peg

    I just read that Knots does not start until October 29!!  I can't
    believe it.  What a bummer.
    
    
    Karen

    I guess since it is the last season they don't want to put too much
    time or money into it.  I really hope this year is an exciting one.  I
    would love to see Jason come back!  It better be a good year making a
    wait until OCTOBER!

    I wonder if Frank's death has anything to do with the late start. Maybe
    they wrote some major story lines around him and had to change,
    therefore pushing the date out....
    
    didn't someone say that Val is going to die in sept?? so does this mean
    she gets bumped off in the opening show....gawd, what a great attention
    getter for the fans......

    hi, i just found this conference....KNOTS is my one and only SHOW!
    
    that pscyho women going after meg got run down by a car at the end of
    the show.
    
    did "frank" die in real life or decide not to come back???
    
    i really want paige and gregg together....

    The character who played "Frank" did die from Aids in real life.  It's
    a shame too because he was a wonderful actor.  As far as the crazy
    woman after Meg, well I think she'll be back this season.  The Soap
    Opera Digest stated that she'd be back.  
    
    I'm with you on Paige and Greg being together.  I miss the way they are
    together.  Poor Paige, everytime she finally gets back with Greg, he
    falls for someone else; even though he really loves Paige.  WHAT'S THE
    POINT?!

    Is this really the last Knott season??  Bummer, I've watched for years.
    
    IMHO I hope Paige realizes that Gregg..even though they do have this
    uncontrollable passion...is never going to be the man to COMPLETELY
    love her as she deserves!!!  He is there for her but in a background
    kind of way.  Plus Anne having that fling w/ him and now thinking she
    is pregnant...that has got to be the last straw for Paige!!!  
    
    Val, killed??  Gary and the twins will be crushed!!  I think it will
    take a long time for Gary to get over her death.  I hope he doesn't
    start tipping the bottle again!
    
    I am sorry to hear about Frank - I have a friend that got aids from
    a blood transfusion - he is a hemophiliac.  He is not doing well.  This
    aids thing is SCARY!! It is very hard on the families.
    
    Someone mentioned Oct. 29th - I think I'll have a Knotts dinner party!!
    We used to have them starting when Dynasty was on.  Dynasty night
    turned into Knotts night when Dynasty left the air!!
    
    I can't wait to see the first episode!
    
    lera
    
    

    I don't think that the crazy woman who was after Meg got run down...you
    see her getting into a car, with the helpof Gregg and another strong
    armed guy....but that's it....then we are suppose to believe that sheis
    the one who takes Meg at the end...personally I think it is Gregg!
    
    another month...I can't take this!!!! aahhhhhhhhhhh

    I don't know why i thought she was run down ??  must be confusing that 
    with something else...i do remember her being picked up
    
    I love this file...every friday i love talking about it....noone in my
    new group watches it!
    
    AND....thanks!!!!  the only episode i ever missed was the day i had my 
    baby....i tried so hard to stay awake!!!  and i've always wondered what 
    i missed!!!  i just read january 9th's episode!

    .630
    
    I completely agree with you.  I believe Paige doesn't deserve a man
    like Gregg considering that He always finds time to hurt Paige in the
    past seasons like when Linda was around He used to favor her instead of
    Paige, messing up with Paige's wedding with Tom, etc...  Of course this
    is only my opinion.  I hope Gregg's fans in this file will take it
    lightly....
    
    
    
    John

    I was doing a crossword yesterday and one of the clues was Knots
    Landing's Alec _____ and the answer was Baldwin, is he gonna be a new
    character this season because I don't remember him being on there
    before?
           Natalie

    alec baldwin was on KL years ago.  he played val's 1/2 brother -
    joshua. he eventually became a tv evangalist and was in love with
    (married ?) to cathy geary - cj's look alike.  he eventually killed
    himself by jumping off a building.
    
    ann

    
    I heard it over the weekend....the first show is on Thursday,
    October 29th!  Let's hope it's worth the wait!
    
    Paula

    re. ann  Thanks, that must have been during a year I didn't watch
    because it doesn't ring a bell of him being on Knots or the story line you
    mentioned.
    
    re Paula  Finally, I'm with you it better be worth the wait, I've
    almost forgotten what all the cliff hangers were!!
    
                                                      Natalie

    I just picked up next week's TV Guide.
    
    It's got a full-page ad that says:
    
    
    	MISSING PERSONS.
    
    	Gary's tracking Val.
    
    	Anne's searching for Sumner.
    
    	The Mackenzies are hunting for Meg.
    
    	And when Paige is held at knifepoint, she
    	desperately searches for help.
    
    	Don't miss the shocking discoveries tonight.
    
    And the synopsis reads:
    
    	Pierce (Bruce Greenwood) returns to terrorize Paige in the 
    	14th-season opener, which also finds the search for the missing
    	Meg complicated by so-called family entertaiments. Elsewhere,
    	Anne's surpise appearance at Sumner's Montana hideaway fails to
    	resolve her dilemma; Gary fears that Val's book research may have
    	spelled disaster; and Alex's free ride seems to be over.
    
    I'm ready!!!
    
    Catherine
    

    I've seen the short snip-its on Channel 7 here in the Boston
    area...Pierce is looking more deranged than ever..(it's gotta be his
    hair!)....it just shows Paige and Pierce, he's got a knife and she
    looks totally horrified....
    
    9 days to go...come on Knots......it's been 14 years since this show
    has been on? ohmygawd, am I THAT OLD????? aahhhhhhhh......
    
    peg

    Geez, I can't wait for this show to get started.  I'm going to go
    down to my cable company and see if I can get a switch box so I
    can tape Homefront while watching Knots Landing.  I didn't know 
    such a thing existed until I discussed my dilema with another
    Homefront faithful.  It still bugs the heck out of me that ABC
    moved Homefront to this spot.
    
    Jan

    I can't wait for Knots to start either!!!  I wish it was on tonight
    instead of making us wait until next week.  The season premiere of LA
    Law is on tonight, so I think I will watch that.  My husband usually
    watches LA Law while I watch Knots, and then we fill eachother in on
    what happened on them.  
    
    Cheryl

    I can't wait for Knots either! Great someone else that watches LA Law
    maybe you can help me keep updated on it via your husband since I'm
    usually torn as to which to watch!
                                      Natalie

    My husband watches LA LAW too..but last nite was a disapointment...
    I told him he'd better stick with me and Knots!  I watched the season 
    finale the other day in preparation of Thursday's show...I can't wait!
    

    
    	Is it on in it's normal 10:00 time slot?
    

    It's on at 9:00 here in the central states.
    
    I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
    
    DOREEN

    
    Well, it's happened ... I guess enough people wrote in and they're
    going to do it ....
    
    Spoiler ....
    
    
    
    		OUR FAVORITE COP, TOM, IS COMIN' BACK!!
    
    
    Sometime mid-season.  I heard this on the radio this morning. 
    

    Well I am joining the rest of you in saying I CAN'T WAIT for the
    season opener of Knots!!!!!!!!!!  It seems like it has been
    forever ago since the show has been on. *^)
    
    Maybe if it gets real good reviews it won't be the last season
    because I hate thinking it is, and I really don't want to believe
    it. *^) 
    
    McGlory -->>  Thanks for the news on Tom I loved him on this show
    he seemed to add alot.
    
    
    Tracey
    

    It's Tuesday....two more days!!! 
    
    I liked Tom too, but like all the rest of Paige's picks he can be
    bought with enough money!! Was he in on something illegal or was that
    just Gregg setting him up, I don't remember.  
    
    The middle of the season....Will Paige be under Pierces strong hold for
    several more shows????? I hope note, Tom needs to come to her rescue!!!
    
    Anne needs to get a life!!!!  She is a fool to want Sumner, he is
    GROSS!!
    
    lera
    

    I like Greg to, but I liked him with Paige.  She seemed to bring
    out the best in him.  I really like her with Tom to.  I hope 
    Paige has better luck this year.
    
    Lera -->>  Greg did set him up right before she and Paige were 
    to get married.  He really wasn't a bad guy.  In the beginning
    he was hanging with the wrong people, but it really wasn't him
    that was bad.
    
    Now we only have one more day!!!!!!!!!!!  I can't wait!!!!!! *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    
                                    

    are they going to bring back karen's son michael?  I can't wait for
    thursday night!
    
    doreen

    Hi Tracy,
    
    Where have you been?  Did you stop watching All My Children???
    I was just wondering, because All My Children and General Hospital
    file is dead lately.
    
    We miss you..
    

    in the latest edition of people, there is a nice bit on William Devane
    alais Gregg Sumner. It talks about his horse ranch, wife, family, etc
    etc....
    
    the previews for Knots sound great! they were even talking about it on
    KISS 108 this morning (Boston radio)..they said this was the first
    season without Joan Van Ark...so does Val get bumped off tonight and 
    it sounds like that psycho woman really did take Meg....
    
    I hope we're not disappointed...nice to see how Pierce survived...what
    did he pop back on the boat after the great fight at sea!!!!!!
    
    Maybe Tom is the person that Gregg sees Paige with right before he is
    about to marry Anne....and come on Claudia..I'm looking for good things
    from you this year!!!! I think she's an Abby-wanna-be!!!
    
    I just hope the world doesn't end today before I can watch Knots
    tonight. I've waited long enough as it is!!!!!
    
    peg

    
    	peg
    
    	I think you're safe.  From what I heard, the world was supposed
    	to end yesterday at 10:00.  =)
    
    
    	JJ

    There's a movie coming up (or did it already play and I just missed
    it) that has William Devane and Donna Mills in it.  It's supposed
    to be on tv any day now.
    
    Jan

    
    It was on Tuesday night. It was called "The President's Child". I 
    taped it, but haven't watched it yet.
    
    Patty

    
    re: .655
    
    what channel was it on???  I checked the TV guide ...which listed
    it for channel 7, but a Perry Mason movie was on!
    
    I thought it would be a great prelude to tonights season opener.
    
    ...wonder if "Poor Val" will suffer long????
    
    ...wonder if Bennie will be the one to help out Ann with the
       baby?
    
    el

    Yeah!!!  It's finally here!  Tonights the night for Knots.  I hope it
    is worth waiting all this time for.  I'm glad Tom is coming back, I
    really liked him and Paige together.  
    
    Cheryl

    
    Oh wow!! I haven't checked my tape yet. Maybe I ended up taping Perry
    Mason. I'll be bummed!!!
    
    Knot's was great last night!!! I'm so glad it's finally back on.
    
    Patty

    I am glad that Knotts is back but I thought last night was a bit
    slow.......
    
    I hated the way Gregg was handling Anne.  That IS what happens to a lot
    of women in real life.  The man wants to get nooky but can't respect
    himself enough to stand up to his own actions.  
    
    The Pierce scene was good but I was expecting more....
    
    Next week should get better...
    
    lera
    

    anyone have time for an update ? I missed the show last night.
    
    	Thanks,	
    	Julie
    

    I liked the way Greg handled Anne. She's old enough to know how to take
    care of herself -- She wouldn't be able to put up with the new Greg
    anyway -- no champagne, cavier, jewels, dining at fancy restaurants
    etc.  We all know who Greg belongs with and that's Paige.  I think
    they're dragging this Pierce thing out too much, they should have
    left him swimming with the fishes.  Otherwise I think we're in for
    a great season of Knots!  
    
    

    I expected Gregg to treat Anne the way he did, and in a funny way
    I really couldn't blame him.  Considering Anne is not the LOVE of
    his life and he is not in a position to really raise children 
    again.  Paige had mentioned having children with him and he pretty
    much told her NO.
    
    Gregg has got to feel that he just doesn't want to be a father and
    he isn't convinced that SHE really wants to either.  It is kindof
    a touchy subject though considering the old line you play you pay
    and that should apply to men out there. *^)  I dont' usually agree
    with the way he handled it, but I wasn't shocked at Gregg knowing
    how he is with women.
    
    I wonder if it had been Paige if he woulf have felt alittle bit
    more compasion.
    
    I did not care for Anne's hair and IMHO she looked heavier and
    older.  Maybe it was just me. *^)
    
    
    Now for a quick update for last nights show.  It should be getting
    better. *^)  10/29......
    
    Paige got in her car and is about to adjust her mirror when she
    sees Pierce's face in her mirror.  What a horrid look she had on
    her face when she was about to scream.  Pierce looks like he is
    really wacked out and has lost it.
    
    He tells her not to scream.  She is telling him to let her go!!!!!!!
    She is about to scream loudly when he says don't scream I hate 
    when you scream and he pulls a knife out.  She is really scared
    now and says for him to leave now and she won't tell anyone she
    saw him.
    
    He has this crazy smile on his face as he says he doesn't want
    to leave he wants her cause he loves her!!!!!!!!! She says you
    don't love me you tried to hurt me on the boat and you kept on
    calling me Margaret and you thought I was having your baby.  He
    says I was just alittle confused then, but I'm alright now.  
    
    He says if I would have killed you I would have killed myself.
    Paige says then you couldn't have been with me anyways.  He says
    yes we would both be dead together and then we would be together.
    She says you are sick!!!!!!!!!  Alex then comes over to the car
    and Pierce puts the knife to her side as he Alex comes to Paige's
    car window.
    
    Alex asks if everything is alright and she says yes we are just
    talking.  Alex says oh okay and he asks her a question that he knew
    was going to have him tell if she was alright.  She answered very
    calmly, but Alex figured out there was something wrong.  He very
    quickly opens Paige's door and she runs out and tells him that he
    has a knife!!!!!!!!!
    
    Alex and Piece struggle, but Alex manages to get him and keep him
    down while Paige uses the phone in the parking garage to get the
    police.  They have Pierce taken away.  While the police have him
    handcuffed he looks at her with the squirely look and says Paige
    I love you!!!!!!!!!
    
    Paige is upset and Kate goes to her place to stay with her for the
    night.  Alex is there to to make sure she is okay.  When Paige leaves
    the room he and Kate say how they think the other is pretty good, 
    they then kiss.  Alex leaves.
    
    Paige can't sleep and nither can Kate so they both then talk.  Paige
    is still afriad of Pierce and says she can't believe this happened
    to her.  She says she had a feeling he would come back for her and
    that he didn't drowned.  They then get onto the fact that Gregg is
    not around and he sold his company and walked out on himself.
    
    Kate says he was the only man she ever loved and she didn't deny
    it.  Paige is upset that he sold his company though and didnt' go
    with her.  
    
    Alex is going back to Claudia's just as she is setting his clothes
    and belongings out on the front lawn. He wants to know what she is
    doing and she says he had this coming to him.  She says his free 
    ride is over!!!!!!!!!!!  He tells her that she is upset because he
    is with Kate.
    
    She says he only wants Kate for her inheritance and that is it.  He
    tells her she is is wrong.  She tells him she warned him, but he is
    out of her house!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Alex goes to Paige's and says that he wanted to make sure that
    everything was alright with Kate and Paige.  He says he will stay
    the night.  Paige says its okay and he goes to get his things.  When
    he leaves Paige says Claudia probably kicked him out, Kate says maybe.
    Kate says he is cute though.
    
    Paige then says you are falling for him and Kate doesn't want to 
    admit that she has fallen for him.
    
    Karen and Mac are frantically looking for Meg since they had gotten
    the call from Val saying she could be in trouble because of this 
    Robison lady.  Robison does kidnap Meg and has her at the park.  
    Mack and Karen have called the police and are looking for her.
    
    Mary Robison is talking to Meg as she has her at a park.  She keeps
    asking her if she wants to do things, but Meg is getting afraid since
    she says her mother always told her not to go with strangers.  She
    tells her she is not a stranger she is her grandmother.
    
    She ends up taking her back and Mac and Karen are happy to get Meg,
    but Mack is very upset and wants to call the police.  She tells
    them to listen to her first.  Mack doesn't want to, but Karen
    says she will take Meg upstairs and then she will listen.
    
    Mary Robison says she is didn't kidnap there daughter she is her
    grandmother.  Karen and Mack both say she is lying, but she says
    she was Laura's mother and had been looking for Laura for many
    years, but then found her and it was to late she had died.
    
    They still don't believe her and says she is lying.  She says
    she has proof she has her birth certificate.  Karen and Mack
    still don't seem to happy and call the police.
    
    Gary goes to the airport to get Val from Florida and she does
    not get off the plane.  Gary is worried and checks with the
    airline desk person to see if she had a reservation.  They tell
    him that she had a seat reserved, but was a noshow.
    
    Gary goes back and is worried.  He is having dinner with the
    kids at Karen and Macks after he told them what happened at 
    the airport.  Karen was worried since she said she knew that
    Val said she was coming home.
    
    While eating Gary gets a call from Val's hotel and they tell
    him she was staying there, but she checked out two days ago.
    Gary hangs up and tells everyone that he is done eating as
    he hurries and leaves the room and looks upset.  Karen and
    Mack both see he is upset and follow him in the kitchen.
    
    They ask him what happened and he tells then what just happened
    as he says he is convinced that something happened to Val.  Just
    then one of the twins is listening and looks upset.  That is the
    end.
    
    Gregg is up in the mountains and Anne shows up there.  Gregg is
    not happy to see her he says he came to get away from everyone.
    She says she wanted to come.  He tells her he wants her to leave
    in the morning.  He tells her she will not like it here because
    it is roughing it with no modern conveniences.
    
    She says that's okay as long as you are here.  She then asks him
    if there's something he is hiding and he asks her the same.  Nither
    one answers the question when Gregg says he is going to let her
    take the cot while he takes the floor.
    
    Anne wakes up and goes outside where Gregg is already been fishing
    as he asks her how she slept she said not to well and he says he
    slept great he wants to bottle that fresh air there!!!!!!!!!!!!
    He then tells her he has her plane reservation booked for her to
    leave this morning in an hour, so get your things ready.
    
    She says she isn't leaving.  He tells her he wants her to and he
    would like to be alone.  She says she has something to tell him.
    She tells him she is pregnant.  He doesn't say a word at first
    and doesn't look happy.  He says are you sure.  She tells him
    that isn't what she wanted to hear.
    
    She says he isn't happy about it and he says that isn't what he
    wanted at this stage and life and asks her if it is what she
    wanted.  She says since it is yours it is.  She doesn't leave
    and another night goes by, but when she wakes up there is a note
    from Gregg saying he has left a check for her flight back and 
    he is sorry, but that isn't what he wants and he will be in the
    mountains for a couple of days.
    
    Anne rips up the check and is making food for her trip up to
    the mountains to find Gregg.  She calls the guy that brought
    both of them to the cabin and says she wants to be taken there.
    He says she might not be able to handle the walk up there in
    the mountains.  She says she is going.  That is the end.
    
    Mary Robison is talking to her brother saying that she is going
    to go after Meg's family for money.  He is trying to tell her 
    to leave now and don't bother trying to do that.  She says she
    is going to try.  that is the end.
    
    Paige insists on going to the trial for Pierce despite Mack saying
    for her not to go.  Paige gets there and says she will be alright.
    Pierce is there looking more psycho than ever when the trial then
    begins.  He has this sick grin on this face and looks over at
    Paige and says Paige you came I knew you would!!!!!!!!!!
    
    The judge is screaming order in the court as Pierce is saying
    he loves her and Paige stands up and looks horrified as they judge
    says this will be continued.  Mack is upset too!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Paige goes to see Pierce in jail with a attorney with her that
    is standing by.  She gets him to admit everything he did and
    then she walks out.
    
    Previews for next week:
    
    Mack and Karen find out that Mary Robison is trying to sue for
    visiting rights for Meg.
    
    Gary is going to Florida to look for Val.
    
    
    Tracey
    

    Sorry guys I got a bit carried away with the update, it wasn't
    a quick one at all.  Then again I usually do get carried away
    with the updates don't I. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    

    I was disappointed with last nights show.  I also thought that Greg
    told Paige he COULDN'T have any children.  I thought he had a
    vasectomy?  I don't ever remember him having one but I thought that was
    what he told Paige when they were talking marriage last year.
    
    I hope the show picks up.  I do love Claudia!  She is great.  I even
    liked Alex last night.  Can they possibly scare up a decent outfit for
    Kate?  
    
    KJ

    I have to say I was disapointed too...but they wrapped up paige and 
    meg's kidnappings.....maybe they didn't want to waste time cause they
    have bigger and better things coming.....hope so!
    
    I didn't buy ann's mushiness either.....wasn't the least bit surprised 
    at greg's reaction...he's not one that likes being cornered!

    Boy, Michelle Phillips (Anne) did not look her usual gorgeous self
    last night.  Well she did in a few places but, most of the time
    she looked old and tired and puffy.  I was shocked.
    
    Watching this show was a challenge.  I was flipping back and forth
    from Homefront to Knots Landing.  My VCR is still flakey and until
    I get it fixed and figure out how to make my cable let me tape one 
    channel and watch another I'm going to be in trouble on Thursdays.  
    I probably missed the better parts of both shows.
    
    Jan
    

    Considering Anne was in the early stages of being Prego,  I'm not the
    least surpized that she looked awful.  
    
    Can't wait for next thursday.  
    
    doreen

    I recall looking tired and puffy and yuck early pregnancy too!
    
    I'd say she's acting the part perfectly!
    
    Linda

    She is just acting isn't she?  .....Theres no real life pregnancy is
    there???
            Natalie

    I think the only reason why Gregg told Paige he couldn't have children
    was to discourage her from thinking about the "M" word, you know...
    MARRIAGE......
    
    looks like Mac and Karen are finally going to have some good story
    lines with the whacky grandmama wanting to see Meg...how are they going
    to explain this.....Didn't a recent court case come through allowing
    grandparents to visit the children even if the parents didn't want it??
    How is Gregg going to fit into this picture? You know he's going to do
    something.....
    
    I hope they just jail Pierce for life...wasn't there already a stalking 
    piece on the show..where Karen was getting followed by someone from her
    tv show?????
    
    is this Thurs the day we see Val going UP IN FLAMES?????? who will
    Gary fall for now?? Claudia, Paige, Kate, Peggy (Mac's secretary). 
    
    I thought it was rather weird there was no mention of Frank's
    death...don't they usually dedicate a show or season to someone who
    dies? How are they going to take care of that? Say that Frank couldn't
    stand being away from his daughter Julie and he left to be with her? 
    Wasn't he seeing someone right before the season ended last year???
    
    I'm just glad Knots is back....lots of possibilities with the story
    lines..they're up against some tough competition this year..
    
    peg

    They did dedicate the show to the person who played Frank...Larry Riley
    I think.  It was at the end of the credits I think...but I do remember 
    seeing "In memory of Larry Riley"

    re:  .670
    
    I vote for Katie...she's a little young...but last season there were
    a few sceens of those two and they looked good together.  AND...didn't
    Katie tell Paige that Alex was just a fill in (not exact words but..)
    for now.
    
    They did dedicate the show to Frank...it was a very fast clip at the
    end last week...you could have missed it if you blinked.
    
    VAL??  Did I miss something?  What is this about her going up in
    flames!
    
    Last season I didn't think Pierce was that great of an actor...but his
    acting out the deranged Pierce was pretty good.
    
    ...el

    re -1
    
    no more Val, this is the first season without Joan Van Ark on the show. 
    According to some people in here, don't know where their notes are, 
    Val is suppose to die in a firey (<-- is this a word) car crash
    sometime this season. and since we all know that she didn't take the
    plane back to Knots Landing, Gary is on his way to Florida to find her. 
    It might be this week since the previews showed him on his way there..
    good ole Karen will be taking the twins while he's gone....
    
    I wonder if the show is going to touch on the AIDS topic...a likely
    candidate would be for Alex to get it...he's been with that vixen, what
    is her name??? the one who is living with Kate....he's slept with
    Claudia and did he and Kate do it???????? hhhhmmm......
    
    they should hook Claudia up with Pierce...they're both possessed!!!!
    and they both share something in common..PAIGE..he wants her and she
    wants to destroy her....
    
    As far as Gregg and Anne....they won't make a good married couple,
    there just isn't any chemistry at all with them....she likes him but 
    think he just likes the free rolls in the hay....
    
    peg 

    
    re; .672 re; Val ..... see note 20.620 for "what's (supposably) gonna
    						happen"
    

    well, wadda think of last night's show????? Kate is finally getting
    some backbone...I would've grabbed Alex by his mighty sword and tossed
    he and Vanessa out....maybe this will pave the way for a Gary/Kate
    relationship.....
    
    I really feel sorry for Paige....she loves Gregg and realizes that her
    mother is out for thebucks...I can't see Anne and Gregg being together
    long especially when she looses the baby...wouldn't it be quite the
    twist to have her and Nick fool around and she ends up pregnant by
    him!!!
    
    

    re:  Gary & Kate
    
    In the opening credits....did anyone else notice the scenes with
    Gary...the only woman they show him with is Kate?  Interesting...could
    this be a bit of foreshadowing?
    
    ....Paige...she's hurt bad.  Looking back to when she first came I
    never throught I would really feel bad for her.  Older men....Ohh they
    are tough on the young heart.
    
    ...el

    Paige has got to feel really bad, especially when she asked Anne about
    Gregg's vasectomy....Gregg has got to eventually find out when Anne
    looses the baby. How can she hide it? I can see gregg wanting to
    go to all the baby doctor with her...how is she going to get out of
    this....
    
    and why is Nick back???? 
    
    I missed the opening credits, was watching the Bruins, will have to
    check this out more closely next week...aren't alot of them from last
    year's show???
    
    and where is Peggy? did they forget about her as well....Mac mustn't be
    a very successful lawyer.he's never in his office and never seems to
    have a client...he's almost like Jack from All my kids!
    
     

    re: .675 
    
    <FF> (stuff from last night's show)
    
    
    re: "his mighty sword"   
    
    Thanks for the early morning chuckle!!!  What a riot.  Glad Kate threw
    the both of them out.
    
    I thought Knots was going to sizzle the screen by having a Vanessa join
    Kate and Alex in bed.  I can't believe Vanessa watching Kate & Alex and
    then undressing in front of them!  What a slut!
    
    I thought the show was pretty good and next week's looks even better. 
    Nick returns and Alex attacks Paige in the office, maybe Greg will walk
    in before things turn nasty.
    
    Poor Paige indeed.  She really loves Greg even though he's put her
    through so much hell.  
    
    I was busy cooking during the show but is there any chance that Greg
    really had a vasectomy and therefore knows Ann is lying about him being
    the father?  I have no idea what he would gain by doing so.
    
    ...Rania
    

    If Greg had really had a vacestomy...I don't think he would have
    proposed to Anne.  You think Anne is lying about being pregnant? 
    I don't think she wouldv'e bought and used a test if she were....
    she couldv'e told him she took one.  
    
    I wouldv'e kicked Vanessa out when I saw her sitting there watching, 
    never mind crawling into bed and undressing in front of them!!!!!!!!
    She makes me sick!!
    
    God.....I hope things don't actually start with Alex on Paige's
    rebound!
    
    Mary looked like she knew something about Val's disapearance.

    re: .679
                                                                        
    No, I don't think Ann is lying about being pregnant.  I just find it
    hard to believe Greg giving in to Ann and marrying her.  Greg doesn't
    do what Greg doesn't want to do!  I missed the proposal scene.  Maybe
    Greg wants to have a second chance at fatherhood since he gave Meg up.
    
    By the way, do we know who the real father is?
    
    ...Rania

    I think he wants a second chance at fatherhood...but he wants a 
    perfect family.....i doubt it with Anne!!!   Her comment to 
    Paige about having a little sister to tell her secrets to made
    me sick!  She is twice Paige's age and 1/2 her maturity.
    
    I was thinking last nite....pretty interesting....mary can find 
    out about laura's daughter given up for adoption....different 
    name....etc...hidden facts.....but she has no mention of finding
    her two grandsons by laura!!!???!!   Strange.
    
    
    

    Laura had 2 boys????? geez, I musta missed that.....
    
    a few back about the vascetomy...that all started a couple years ago
    when Claudia first burst onto the scene. Claudia kept putting a bug in
    Gregg's ear that Paige would've liked to get married and how she wanted
    kids. By Gregg telling Paige he had a vascetomy after the birth of Meg, 
    which we all know he didn't, he was hoping to discourge Paige from
    being interested in him.....
    
    I wonder if Mary does have something to do with Val's disappearance.
    Afterall, she gets kidnapped doesn't she..well, who would want to
    kidnap her unless she came up with something else on Mary....
    
    last night when Karen showed the picture of Laura to mary, I thought I
    was going to cry. I was remembering when she made that videotape and
    said good-bye to everyone...that was a 2 tissue box night for sure!!!
    
    Vanessa is a sleaze....I'm glad Kate wised up....hhmm....what is
    Claudia going to do to him? first she throws him out, fires him, he
    goes after Kate, screws (excuse the pun) her over and now is about to
    attack Paige in the office...I wonder if Claudia will come to Paige's
    rescue, afterall their offices are next door.....
    
    where's Tom????? with Nick back and Tom on his way, there's gonna be
    some nice hunks of meat to stare at....
    
    It did look like Vanessa was going to pop into bed with them...Alex
    couldn't wipe that grin off his face especially when she undressed....
    
    the show is starting to pick up just a little, thank god! 

    RE:  Mary & boys
    
    Very good point.
    
    Paige....I think the old Paige would go for Alex....NOT NOW (hopfully).
    
    Ann....didn't she have a little fun with Nick too?  AND he so glad she
    is after Greg presuming it's his money....could he think it's his?
    
    ...el

    Laura was first in Knot's Landing married to ......(i forget name)
    they had two boys, I think when she married greg the boys lived with 
    them.....but when she was dying she gave them to their father so 
    they could have one real parent.

    RE: Laura's ex, his name was Richard.  I think the boys were
    Jason and Daniel.  At one point, Richard opened a restaurant
    and it was named after the youngest boy, Daniel.
    

    speaking of "other kids" - what about greg's son?  mary frnaces'
    brother.  i don't mean abby's son (brian).  all greg talks about was
    how he screwed up with mary frances, he never mentions the son.
    
    i guess he's off skiing with bobby martin (from AMC) :)
    
    	ann

    I've got a memory lapse around greg's son???

    re - a few back......are you thinking about Claudia's son who showed up
    and became friendly with Kate and was then blown away by the cops...I
    thought Gregg's kids were MaryFrances (Kate) and Meg....I don't
    remember if he had any other kids.....

    Can anybody give a complete update for last nights' show?  I'm kinda 
    lost with all the stuff you guys are talking about.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Virginia

    Yes, please an update.  I've missed the past two shows and the updates
    help a great deal.  I try to stay up until 10:00 - but this little baby
    growing inside me tells me to go to sleep.
    
    Thanks,
    Tricia :)

    I'll try to update last Thursday's show from what I remember.
    
    Mary Robeson goes to see Karen and sweet talks her way into Karen's
    home.  Mary says that her daughter was taken away from her and she
    misses her and would like to see some pictures of her, etc.  and gets
    all teary eyed.  Well Karen fell for it and let her in.  Karen tells
    Mac who gets upset and says that Mary will say anything. Next thing you
    know is Mary's lawyer calling Mac requesting to meet to discuss visits
    for Meg.  Neither Karen nor Mac are pleased and when they do meet it is
    a diaster and they say they will see each other in court.
    
    Anne is still chasing after Greg in the woods.  When they get back to
    the cabin Anne finally gives in says it's a mistake and gets ready to
    leave.  Greg says hold on a minute, and then proposes to her!  They go
    back to the ranch, Anne is planning up a storm and Greg is saying, hey
    we haven't even set a date yet.  No stopping Anne.  She tells Carlos to
    get her stuff from her apartment and move it to the ranch.  
    
    Paige goes to get Carlos to tell her where Greg is, which he does but
    also says that he told her mother too.  She's upset, storms out and
    has a really bad day at the office.  Finally, Anne comes by to go out
    to eat with Paige, they talk a little, Anne tells her she and Greg got
    engaged.  Paige of course is shocked and wants to know how come.  After
    a while Anne tells her she is pregnant.
    
    Kate and Alex are fooling around in bed.  In walks Venessa.  She stares
    for a few moments until Alex and Kate notice her.  Kate tells her that
    things just aren't working out living together.  Venessa doesn't think
    that's true and goes to sit on the bed with them to talk.  She asks
    Alex to unzip her...Kate says I'll do it.  Venessa proceeds to take her
    dress off in front of them - leaving her in a black, very sexy
    undergarment.   The next day Kate comes home and finds Alex and Venessa
    in the shower together!  Kate opens the curtain and says she wants
    Alex and his shower buddy out of the apartment by tonight! (Alex was
    staying there because Claudia had thrown him out).
    
    Gary still has no news on Val.  Her decides he is going to go to
    Florida and search for her himself and asks Karen to watch the twins.
    
    At the end of the show Mary Robeson goes home and finds Greg in her
    living room saying we have to talk.
    
    Think that's about it.
    
    Diane

    ...just wanted to mention that last week they finally said something
    about Frank's whereabouts.  Did you guys catch it?  Mac said he needed
    to get back to his own work (instead of the Sumner group) since Frank
    was visiting Julie.  Guess that's all they will say about it.
    
    Diane

    If you watch the real old shows you would see when Greg is running for
    Senate his wife and two kids are helping him.  So he doe have a son.  I
    guess they do not expect us to remember that far back.  Just like Karen
    never talks  about her three children anymore.  When the boys were on
    they never talked about her daughter.  I think they could bring some of
    these characters back and give  us some fresh blood.  I wish Paige
    would find someone she is so nice she is the nicest one on the show and
    all she has been through with Greg to have her mother win him is making
    me mad.  I just find it hard to believe that the two of them at such an
    old age what to raise another child.  
    
    Anne looks bigger to me, I wish Paige had not cut her hair.
    
    Well  my 2 cents worth.

    I forget when exactly he ran for senate...who the wife was...
    
    But, he was married to Abbie who had a boy and a girl and Laura who
    had two boys, then later on a girl with Greg.....
    
    Are you sure you are not thinking of one of these three boys?
    
    I can't for the life of me remember a son....but I could be wrong.

    Here's some scoop from SOD:
    
    
    
    Gary's tireless search for the woman he loves takes him far away
    from Knots Landing - again.  On Thursday, Nov. 19, a Florida detective
    gives him a hot tip on Val's whereabouts, and Gary hops on a plane
    and heads for perilous situation.  Will he beat the clock?
    
    Tom Ryan - Tom returns to Paige's arms "mid-way through the seaon"
    a spokesperson reveals.  Gian left the show in Dec 1990, before his
    red-hot storyline with Paige was resolved.
    
    What Will Happen?
    
    o Anne is unable to tell Sumner the truth about her pregnancy.
    
    o Mary Robeson has her day in court to fight for visitation rights
      to Meg.
    
    o Nick romances Claudia.
    
    o Paige and Anne argue heatedly about Anne's wedding.
    
    

    I remember his wife, but not her name.  He did have two kids, Mary Francis 
    and a boy.  I can't remember his name either.  The kids were young at
    the time, maybe 8 and 10.  That was a long time ago, when Sid was
    alive.  Abbie was Sid's sister, that was how they brought her on the
    show.  Didn't Abbie first seduce Laura's husband Richard?  
    
    It is kind of funny that they don't mention Richard and the two boys,
    considering they are Meg's half brother's.  But then again, they would
    have to explain to Meg who the boys are.  She doesn't know that she is
    adopted yet.  I have a feeling that they will have to end up telling
    her now that Mary is trying to get visitation rights.
    
    Cheryl    

    
    
    	re: last night
    
    	I only have one comment.  I bet that Anne is going into 
    	menopause!  The doctor was asking her if she had hot flashes,
    	nausea etc......  giggle giggle...... would serve her right.
    

    I did not like the way they handle the Alex leaving on the show last
    night.  I though Alex was nice looking and added some fun to the show. 
    I think the show is getting a little bit boring.  I have never cared
    for all the Mac/Karen story line...they are so boring..did anyone else
    notice the big box of Tide in Karen laundry room last night.  I was
    trying to figure out if this was plug.  I mean here is Mac and Karen
    standing in the kitchen and her laundry room door is open and there is
    this big box of tide and I thought that was odd...
    
    Does Karen not work know...does Mac not work.  I hate the way they seem
    to rushing from one story line to another.  Alex to me was written out
    quickly- Nick is there all of sudden- things are going fast in some
    areas and slow in others.  I think they are dragging out the Gary/Val
    story line.
    
    I hope Greg does not marry Anne she is to mean to win....
    
    

    Some thoughts while I take my bagel break.....
    
    I hope Vanessa stays in the background a lot this season.  She really
    bothers me.  The way she talks/expresses herself grates on my nerves. 
    She's always trying to be so seductive!!! YUK!!!!
    
    I was quite pleased Kate stood up to Alex and told him to get lost. 
    And then poor Alex gets dumped by Vanessa, what a surprise.  
    
    Whoever mentioned Ann experiencing menopause is probably right.  That
    will be quite funny.  How is she going to break the news about not
    being pregnant to all of California let alone Greg?  She'll probably
    fake a horse riding accident so Greg doesn't find out her lie. 
    Although it will probably back fire on her when he asks the doctor if
    the baby is going to be Ok and the doctor asks "what baby?"
    
    Do you folks think Greg really loves her?  I don't, I think he decided
    to marry her for another chance at being a model daddy.  I can't
    believe Ann thinks he really loves her, I mean she did set quite a
    trap.  
    
    My favorite line was by Greg's sister (brain drain) when she tells 
    Vanessa she would like to see what she would do to someone she hates.
    
    Well that's all for now....
    
    ...Rania
    

    read in this weeks enquirer that 
    
    
    	william devane (greg) is not renewing his contract with CBS in
    decemeber!
    

    
    Guess Greg will have a STROKE when he finds out Ann isn't pregnant!
    
    ...el 

    some predictions???????
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Mary will probably get visitation rights...Meg seemed to handle the
    situation well that she is adopted, that will be a plus on her
    side...and did last weeks previews show gregg testifying for her?????? 
    
    
    Nick and Claudia are going to make a great pair...he wants his Anna
    back and Claudia will do anything to keep her away from greggie
    
    could Kate and Gary be the next couple???? she rescused him from Gregg
    at the party, came over to give his kids some kites and is now tucking
    them in...hhmm.....he may need some consoling when Val goes up in
    flames this week....
    
    Since Anne and Paige are not getting along....Anne will probably
    "loose" the baby do to all the stress Paige is putting her through and
    blame it on her..
    
    Why is Gregg leaving????????....maybe after he learns about the
    non-exisitant baby and Paige is in the arms of Tom (pant pant), he will
    become a mountain man forever.......
    
    Alex's character had just run it's course...I think Nick will do a much
    better job...he's better to look at so that's already one good plus for
    him!
    
    peg

    
    Last week I saw up to Nick jumping out of the limo after seeing Ann
    with Greg...the little one woke up crying and didn't settle down until 
    the show was over.
    
    Can anyone update ...the last half of the show and the previews for
    this week?
    
    ps.  I'm still for Gary and Katie...
    

    I'll give it a shot.....we'll start backwards with the previews.....
    Karen and Mac are in court to debate the visitation rights of Mary for
    Meg when Gregg is summoned to the stand...the clip showed him waving
    probably to Mac and Karen
    
    Gary is in a high speed chase with a car, he's in Florida, and we see
    this car with a blonde, guess we can assume it's Val, going over an
    embankment...
    
    Nick is introduced to Claudia and they are starting to cuddle on her
    couch...
    
    Anne has returned from the doctor where she found out she is NOT
    pregnant...the doctor, Val and Gregg were having dinner and Anne spills
    something on the doctor...all during the previews, there was no audio
    only video, so I'm assuming that the 3 of them were starting to talk
    about the baby when Anne panicked and might have spilled something on
    her to get rid of her...
    
    let's see, what happened on the end......kate brought over 2 kites for
    betsy and bobby. bobby was saying that Val is dead, Gary freaked,
    yelled at the kids and that's when Kate showed up. She brought them
    upstairs to get ready for bed and Gary was on his way up to say
    goodnight to them.
    
    Alex is gone. He tried to kiss Paige and I think she slapped him. He
    thought it would be a good way to get Gregg and Claudia back. This was
    taking place late in the office where Paige had returned to get some
    work and Alex was there drinking and smoking...
    
    got to go..fire alarm here at MSO....
    
    
    

    I was watching DIE HARD last night....came in when the guy was getting
    killed...so didn't get too good a look....but I think one of the bad 
    guys was handsome Nick.

    re-1
    
    it was Nick.....hey, if he needs bandaid, I'll be glad to make any
    boo-boo feel much better!
    
    

    I just had to get in here and find out what people think of Greg's NEW
    haircut???  In the previews for next week, it show's Greg asking Ann if
    she was ready to get married?  It looked to me like he had his hair cut
    REAL short and like a crew cut (flat) on top.  I don't think it looks
    good on him.
    
    
    BLT
    

    Just with that very quick glimpse i thought i liked it...have to see
    next week

    I thought Greg's new do looked cool!
    
    It was such a quick glimpse though.
    
    Karen

	Does anyone have an update from last night.  I taped the
	wrong show.  My new (4 weeks) husband even asked that we 
	start taping Knots, I hooked him and we just can't stay awake.  

	I got up this a.m. and there it is IN THE HEAT OF THE NIGHT! 
	So, if anyone would like a tape of in the heat of the night 
	you can have it!  
	
	I want Knots!


	Thanks,

	Cyndi

	

    I'll give it a try but others please feel free to jump in where I miss
    soemthing....
    
    It starts with Anne speaking with her doctor. We know that Anne is not
    pregnant and the doctor suggests that she might be going into
    menopause. Anne is dejected and wants to know if she can have a baby,
    the doctor told her yes, but she will have to try real hard. Later on,
    Anne and Gregg are having lunch when the doctor sits down with them to
    have a drink. Anne "accidently" spills a drink on the doctor, causing
    her to leave. Gregg wants to know what's up and Anne replies with, I
    didn't want the doctor to tell you if the baby is a girl or boy.
    
    Gary ends up in Florida after a call by his private investigator saying
    that he has found a witness that saw Val being kidnapped at the
    airport. In a few scenes after that, Mary's (the woman wanting custody
    of Meg) brother gets a phone call and he leaves. He finds a payphone,
    makes a call and says something like, "don't ever call me at home again
    and just move her, I don't care how you do it". Later on we see Gary
    spotting Val (not really but someone in a blonde wig) in a car and a
    high speed chase starts. They end up going through a construction area,
    the car with Val flips and bursts into flames before Gary can rescue
    her. Get ready for some real ter jerky moments at her funeral.
    
    Claudia finds out that Gregg has annoucned that the Sumner group is
    going to donate millions to the re-building of LA. Mort brings this
    news into her. He has the big time hots for her. The looks he was
    giving her were priceless, but the ones of "get out of my face" by
    Claudia were even better. Claudia and Nick eventually get together and
    end up rolling in the hay. The morning after at Claudia's, the doorbell
    rings and Nick comes running down the stairs in a towel to get it. It's
    Karen with an envelope for Claudia. Karen is just about word-less and
    just stands there staring at Nick. As he reaches for the envelope, his
    towel drops and Karens just stares at him. He covers himself with the
    envelope and Karen leaves with this HUGE smile on her face. 
    
    Mary puts on this great show for the judge and ends up getting
    temporary visitation rights to see Meg. Earlier, Mary's brother showed
    up at Mac's and told him for a million, Mary would go away. Gregg is in
    the court and sees the show Mary puts on. Later that night, he calls a
    judge friend of his to reverse the decision on visitation rights. In
    the morning, one of his henchmen places cocaine all over Mary's
    apartment. She finds it, realizes Gregg planted it and is the process
    of getting of it when the police are banging on her door.
    
    Previews showed Gary telling the twins that mommy was in a bad
    accident, and Karen is crying on Mac's shoulder. 
    
    Gregg meets Anne at the church and wants to know if it is time to get
    married. 
    
    Paige is having a debate with a guy in her office about something, a
    marketing plan perhaps (could this be the guy she ends up in bed with
    when Gregg walks in?)
    
    I think that's about it......
    
    
    peg   

    Great update.  Thanks sooooo much.  I got side-tracked last night
    and forgot to turn the tv on.  By the time I remembered, it was 
    after 10 and Knots was over.
    
    Jan

    you are more than welcome for the update.......

    
    
    	Well as usual, the folks in here are right on the money as
    	far as predictions go.  The below is copied without permission
    	from STAR magazine.  I'm putting it after a FF because this
    	could be considered a "spoiler".
    
    
    
    Knots Landing fans should brace themselves for a shocking May-December
    romance - and for murder.
    STAR has gained a sneak glimpse of several episodes of the hit CBS
    show set to air around Christmas.
    The sexiest moment comes when Gary Ewing (Ted Shackleford) falls head
    over heels in love with young Kate (Stacy Galina) after she seduces him
    in his own kitchen.
    At first, Gary is a reluctant partner, tyring to avoid jumping into
    a new relationship so soon after the death of his wife, Val - which
    came when longtime star Joan Van Ark left the show.
    "Gary is still mourning, and still trying to find out who was
    responsible for her death." says an insider.  "But he is overwhelmed by
    the burden of being both mother and father to their twins.  Kate starts
    out by being the helpful girl next door, but soon develops strong
    feelings for Gary."
    When she can't get Gary to pick up on her signals, she puts her
    frustrations in an eating binge - and the eager ears of Paige
    (Nicollette Sheridan), who quickly gives her a few tips on the best way
    to land a man.
    So when Gary asks Kate to hire a nanny for the children, she picks the
    worst candidate possible.  Then, when the nanny quits in a huff, Gary
    is forced to call in Kate for help.  she arrives with an overnight bag,
    but makes it clear she won't be staying in the guest room.
    "Kate seduces Gary in the kitchen, shooting down his objections until
    he kisses her deeply and succumbs to her charms," says the insider. 
    While Kate and Gary are finding love together, Mack (Kevin Dobson) and
    Karen (Michele Lee) are in ddep trouble after she discovers the body of
    Mary Robeson (Marie Cheatam), the scam artist who claimed their adopted
    daughter, Meg, was her grandchild.
    When Mary won visitation rights, Mack and Gary tried to buy her off
    with $500,000.  But when Karen finds the body, she also comes across a
    tape of Mack threatening Mary and demanding the return of the money.
    "The evidence is damning, and Karen takes the tape and hides it," says
    the soap source.
    "But when Paige's ex-fiance, Det. Tom Ryan (Joseph Gian) shows up to
    investigate, the case quickly takes him to Mack, who must borrow $1
    million for bail.
    Meanwhile, a private investigator finds a hot new lead concerning Val's
    abduction and death.  When the investigator follows the trail to
    Florida, Mack makes a tough decision to violate his bail and tag along. 
    "It's a big risk for Mack, but he is convinced that it's the only way
    to track the true killer," says a show insider.
    	
    
    
    
    					JJ

    my my...on the kitchen table....what is this world coming too?????
    
    can we all assume that...
    
    
    
    
    
    gregg has mary bumped off and this will be his out for the show!!! will
    Knots be on this thurs...I never checked the cable guide......
    
    and where is Mary's body found? what, is she under the sunday paper on
    the front step or does Karen often go around sniffing out dead bodies?
    
    
    peg

    
    Was Knots on last week?  We had the family at our house Thursday 
    so I didn't even have time to think about tv.
    
    ...el

    I believe E.T. was playing about the time that Knots should have
    been on.
    
    Jan

    Oooh...thanks.  Glad to hear I didn't miss anything.
    ..el

    I heard on the radio this morning that Nicolette is getting a divorce
    from Harry Hamlin and is planning on marrying Michael Bolton!!  Boy
    Nicolette and Harry's marriage didn't last long, huh?
    
    Tricia :)

    re -1
    
    I think I am gonna gag!!!!!! Nicolette is rather attractive, Mr Bolton
    needs to buy a Flobie for Chrsitmas and use it.......
    
    Flobie.....advertised on t.v...it's like a vacuum cleaner that cuts
    your hair and sucks up all the loose hairs.....
    
    pge 

    Well Michael Bolton might not be the MOST attractive guy, but he
    sure has a rather sexy voice and the way he sings is certainly
    worth listening to and it does something for me, IMHO. *^)  I really
    don't think he is that bad looking ither. *^)
    
    Nicolette and he might make a good pair. *^)  Hamlin just seemed a
    bit to "straight" for her. *^)  
    
    
    Tracey
    
                                                 

    gee, wouldn't it be a gas if in one of Paige's love scenes, a Michael
    Bolton song is playing in the background.....they play mama and papa
    tunes when Anne's around....
    
    I wonder if this week is the funeral for Val. I can't see them dragging
    that story line out any longer...should be a good tear jerker!!!
    
    peg

    Here's some scoop from SOD
    
    KNOTS LANDING residents, especially Paige, get a taste of the sporting
    life on Thursday, Dec. 3.  That's when a consortium of baseball
    superstars converge on The Sumner Group to get financial support for 
    a good cause: rebuilding a recreational center in a riot-devastated
    area.  But when one of the jocks gets a glimpse of Paige, it could 
    be the beginning of a romantic consortium.
    
    Paige's social life will pick up steam on Dec 3, thanks to the arrival
    of this hunky baseball star.  David James Elliot, who'll stay on KNOTS
    for three episodes, has appeared in the movie Police Academy 3, as 
    well as China Beach and Doogie Howser, MD.
    
    What Will Happen:
    
    o Everyone is stunned by Val's death
    
    o Mack convinces Gary to have a memorial service for Val
    
    o A physical attration blossoms between Gary and Kate, who has been
      helping to care for the twins.
    
    o On the day of his wedding, Sumner has second thoughts about marrying
      Anne.

    ell, what did y'all think of last nights show??? Claudia is priceless,
    Mort is a DORK!
    
    there were a few good lines at the wedding, especially when Kate asked
    Claudia why she was wearing black at a wedding. Claudia replied she was
    in mourning!!! hahahahaha......
    
    peg

    Paige'e new guy turns me off....so assuming!
    I don't like Greg's hair after all
    I think Kate and Gary started TOO SOON!!!!!!!!!  i thought it would be
     kinda sweet if they were together so much and she helped him alot and 
     it developed....but this.....TOO SOON!
    I can't believe Greg walked into paiges' like that
    Val's service not as teary as i thought it would be.....maybe the
    funeral will be
    i noticed they kinda left it open about val...kate said how do you know
    it was her......the cops found her ring....yeah....she was kidnapped...
    so they robbed her too....that blonde couldv'e been an accomplice
    wasn't too thrilled with last night's show

    I missed Thursday's show!  Could someone PLEASE post an update?
    
    Thanks!
    
    Lynn
    

    I was in training in Cal and missed this show Please Update!!!
    Thanks!!!

    Here's what I can remember from last week.  Details may be off but the
    gist of it should be there.
    

    
    Gary tells the kids that their mom died.  Bobby accepts it but Betsy 
    yells at Gary and runs to her room.

    A couple of x-baseball greats show up at the Sumner group to ask them
    for help in building a youth center.  Mort is all excited about meeting
    them both and is pretty much making a fool of himself, acting like a
    school kid.  The funny scene was when the Paige walks in and is
    mistaken as the secretary.  The pitcher asks Paige for some coffee, he
    likes his sweet. So paige gets him a cup, places it in front of him and
    proceeds to fill it with sugar and then sits down.

    Basically, Claudia and Paige don't want to get involved because there's
    no money to be made.  The pitcher returns to Paige's office and invites
    her to go with him to the site intended for the center.  She agrees and
    off they go then next day.

    Paige changes her mind after her tour and he's coming on to her big
    time.  He's throwing her line after line but she doesn't take any of
    them.

    They meet with Greg since he's heading the LA project.  The pitcher
    notices Greg put his hand over Paige and Paige pulling away.  Back at
    Paige's the pitcher asks what's up between the two of them and she
    doesn't say anything.

    One night at Gary's Kate is helping with the kids and walks into Gary's
    bedroom as he's frantically putting Val's clothes in a suitcase.  He
    overpacked the suitcase and is completely frustrated with all that's
    happened.  As he's sitting on the bed Kate kneels in front and tells
    him not to worry and then she kisses him.  At first he's kinda shocked
    but then gladly reciprocates.  I too found their "kiss" a bit too soon
    but must say it was hot, imho.  He breaks it off, she apologizes and
    leaves.

    Mac convinces Gary to have a service for Val.  And Gary convinces Betsy
    to go too.  At the service Karen starts talking and shortly after Betsy
    runs out of the church, followed by Gary.
    
    Greg suggests they postpone their wedding due to Val's death but Ann,
    being her usual selfish self and says no way, 'people will need
    something cheerful'.  They show her getting ready and being quite
    nervous.  Mac comes to see her.  Was it last week show when she
    confided to Mac that she's really not pregnant?  She tells Mac not to
    say anything, everything will be fine once she gets that ring on her
    finger.  Mac turns and leaves, telling her she looks beautiful.

    Then you see Greg with Carlos.  Either he get's asked if this is what
    he wants to do or just walks out telling Carlos he has a better idea. 
    Next you see a hand opening a door and walking in a room.  And then you
    see Paige and the baseball guy in bed and realize that it's Greg
    watching them.

    Just as Carlos goes to tell Ann Greg's not going to marry her Greg
    walks in and asks Ann if she wants to get married. 
    
    ...Rania
    

    I don't have an update for last week's show but I just had to comment
    about Nick & Vanessa.  What the heck does Nick have on her to make her
    shake in her boots?
    
    ...Rania

    Did anyone catch Knots last night.  I had to miss it (it was on wasn't
    it?).  I was outlet shopping with my sister and when we got home, her
    husband had Homefront (my other favorite) on.  I couldn't talk them 
    into letting me switch channels back and forth.
    
    Can anyone update?
    
    Jan

    I'll try....forgive my memory lapses...
    
    Karen is very concerned with Mac ad how he's acting.  He went to Paige
    to get 1M and she said she couldn't.  Then he went to Anne.  She said
    she could set up a requestition for a grant and then he could just 
    put it back and say the project was cancelled.  He went to get the $
    and she said there had been a change in plans....she only got 1/2....
    he said well i signed for 1M.....she said i tore that up and made a 
    new one....sign here.....he leaves with 1/2 M and she rips up the 
    paper he just signed and picks up the phone and ok's her restaurant
    idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   He is libel for 1/2 M more now and she swiped 
    the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    
    Karen went to the lawyer and told her what RObison was doing and begged
    her to stop all this for megs' sake.....she said she would look into it
    and went to talk to robison.....robison immediately called Mac and 
    arranged to meet him in the park figuring he would bug his office....
    which he had done......very much so.....robison also fired her lawyer.
    
    gary was supposed to videotape the thing and the camcorders battery
    died!  he saw tourists with one and went right over and took it said 
    wow yours is just like mine and took out the battery....he got a tiny
    piece of it on tape.....along with the guys face yelling at him to give
    back his battery....i don't know if mac's body was bugged...stupid if
    it wasn't
    
    they put a bug in the suitcase to track the money too
    
    the baseball guy got an offer to go to japan for 3M...was flattered....
    met with the guy...don't know what he'll do....he says he loves paige
    to much to go without her.......YEAH.....they barely know each other!
    
    vanessa's radio show was a big flop and she went crying to anne....who 
    blew her off...she got her the job....she can't make it work too
    she tried to seduce the producer or whatever.....but postponed it one 
    day then they had already started looking for a replacement...she sits
    in annes studio....i think she went begging for that job too....starts
    to cry....like we should feel bad for HER.....she reaches for a tissue 
    and comes up with the fertility pills....which of course anne had 
    prominently displayed in her top desk drawer.....
    
    nick told anne he was meeting with a restaunranter to discuss his new
    project....that's what brought on her rush to get him a place of his 
    own....she wants to keep him around.
    
    that's all i can remember right now
    
    
    strange they still haven't mentioned frank!!!  do they expect us to
    forget he's off visiting julie and hasn't been heard or seen from 
    since....maybe they wanted to get val over with....was the memorial
    service all they did....i didn't see a funeral scene
    
    
    

    Thanks very much for the update.  I truly appreciate it.  It just
    drives me nuts when I miss this show.
    
    Jan

    just a minor correction on the update...Mac met with Claudia and not
    Anne.....just when I thought Claudia was going to be nice, we all know
    that that Mac is going to be in for it big time.....can you say FRAUD
    and EMBEZZLEMENT!!!
    
    did you see the previews...all is not well for Anne...what was Sumner's
    comments to her....."you've got a ring on your finger, a bun in the
    oven and money in the bank, now go and be happy with your life"...can
    you say happy marriage...and now when Vanessa confronts her about the
    fertility pills, Anne's world is going to come tumbling down BIG
    TIME!!!!
    
    it won't take long now for Mary to end up dead and we all know who the
    prime suspect is going to be! 
    
    Peg

    Here's some scoop from SOD:
    
'93 PREVIEW:
    
    Murder on Deck:  In mid-January, police detective Tom Ryan returns to
    investigate a death.  Is it someone we know?  Yes.  Who?  "I can't
    say," a KNOTS spokesperson declares.  We have a hunch that Ryan himself
    turns out to be a victim - of love.  Watch for palpable tension between
    Ryan and ex-fiancee, Page.
    
    Marriage on the Rocks?:  Mack and Karen suffer serious marital strife.
    Even though Anne's pregnancy was a false alarm, Greg and Ann stay
    together.
    
    Starting Over:  Sumner's involvement in trying to rebuild riot-torn LA
    forces him to do some serious rethinking:  Is he really in touch with
    what the community wants - or is the job too big for him?.. While 
    working on the riot reconstruction project, Kate and Gary grow closer.
    Is something romantic about to happen?
    
    Schemers, Inc.: Claudia fights to retain control of the Sumner Group,
    but obstacles continue to confound her.  Meanwhile, Nick keeps 
    cuddling up to Claudia to get control of her money.  There's
    definiately more to Nick than he shows.  What does he really have up
    his sleeve?

    did anyone catch the previews for Knots? saw them last night...Mary was
    telling Mac that the price was ONE MILLION for staying away from
    Meg..he said something to her and she wanted to know if that was a
    threat. Next scene switches to Karen and it looks like she is doing
    some serious bosom cluthching....didn't someone mention that Karen
    finds Mary dead and also finds the tape where Mac threatens Mary....
    
    Mac is looking possessed these days isn't he....and Claudia is becoming
    quite the witch but I have a feeling she is going to get what is coming
    to her from Nick!!!!
    
    Peg

    I hope someone will be watching Knots this week.  I'm having a 
    severe TV conflict (looks like I need 2 working VCRs now...
    unfortunately I'm left with one non-working one).  
    
    Not only have they put Knots up against my other favorite show 
    "Homefront" but now they're premiering "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine"
    at 8pm that night.  Of course, it's a 2 hour premier too which is
    a major problem since Knots comes on at 9pm in my area.
    
    If I beg will someone promise to update? 
    
    Jan

    Jan

	I will do my best to help out with Knots.  It sure is quiet
	in here.

	Cyndi

    Ah, thank you.  It's nice to know there is a kind soul out there
    who will take pity on my situation.
    
    Forever in your dept,
    
    Jan

    I'll give ya a hand as well Jan with the update....the show should
    start to pick up with:
    
    1) Tom returning
    2) Mary dirt-napping
    3) Kate and gary doing some serious tonsil tag
    4) Finding out what secret Nick has over Vanessa
    5) Claudia getting burned big time by Nick
    6) Mac finally going off the deep-end
    
    Peg

	Peg,

	Love your news update.  Together we will pull Jan through.


	1) Tom returning
    	2) Mary dirt-napping
    	3) Kate and gary doing some serious tonsil tag
    	4) Finding out what secret Nick has over Vanessa
    	5) Claudia getting burned big time by Nick
    	6) Mac finally going off the deep-end
    
    
	I use to talk to you before in Knotts  old Username CQUINN
	I got married two months ago.  Thankful things are settling
	down, now I can get serious about the Soaps again.

	Cyndi

    Here's some news from SOD:
    
TOM RYAN COMES HOME TO KNOWS - AND PAIGE:
    
    KNOTS LANDING's Paige is in for a big surprise.  After 1 1/2 year
    hiatus, lusty Tom (Joseph Gian) will ride back into her life on Jan. 14
    and he's ready for action.  Back in town to investigate a murder,
    Tom picks Mack as his number-one suspect.  And in his spare time, he
    tries to reignite his nipped-in-the-bud romance.  "Tom sees the fire
    in Paige's eye," Gian says with a grin.  "The flame has not blown out."
    
    Gian, who has been cultivating a singing career during his absence from
    the show, says his friendship with Nicollette Sheridan (Paige) lured
    him back. "Nicolette and I are friends," explains the actor, who
    called her at home as soon as he knew that he was returning.  "Michael
    Bolton answered the phone," he relates.  "He said, 'You sing your ass
    off.  Nicollette let me hear your tape, and it's really great to see
    someone who can act and sing.' We talked for about 15 minutes before
    Nicollette even got on the phone."  Contrary to industry rumors, KNOTS
    did not offer Gian a huge sum of money.  In fact, he reveals, "I took
    a 40% pay cut to come back."  The actor also dispels published
    reports that he left KNOTS because the show couldn't' meet his asking
    price.  "I had come back for the 1990-91 cliffhanger," explains Gian,
    who had played Tom from 1989 to 90.  "There were new producers and
    writers, and they offered me a two-year contract, which was flattering
    and every actor's dream.  But I had recently hooked up with Joe 
    Cocker's producer, who had heard a tape I did.  I went to NY to work
    on my music, and that's when I received the offer from KNOTS.  I said,
    'I just can't do it.' They said, "Why don't you just come back, and 
    we'll kill you off after 2-3 episodes?' I couldn't do that either.  I
    followed my hearts, stayed in Manhattan and developed my music." Now
    that he's back in LA, Gian's still recording his songs - in between
    taping his KNOTS scenes.  What will happen between Paige and Tom?  The
    actor has no idea, but he thinks that viewers should write in with
    suggestions.  "On KNOTS, a few letters equal thousands of opinions,"
    he quips.
    
    I MARRIED A FELON:  If you think Karen and Mack have been thru a lot
    on KNOTS LANDING, just wait until you see what the judicial system
    has in store for them on Thurs, Jan 21.  Distraught as she is over her
    husband's arrest, Karen's spirits sink even lower when she finds out
    who his lawyer is - Mack plans to represent himself.  Will the couple
    endure the courtroom strain?  Meanwhile, Kate and Gary just can't seem
    to keep away from each other, no matter how hard they try.  Passion 
    might just get the best of these two.  Tune in for the fireworks.
    
    FOOLS FOR LOVE:  Kate Wittaker.
    
    Complaint:  Kate follows one basic rule: "If Mom hates the guy, I'll
    adore him."  she falls in love easily, and she falls hard. 
    Unfortunately, naive Kate should listen to Mom - Kate has a knack for
    picking bad apples.  Profession Joseph Barringer left her when the
    going got tough, and studly Alex Barth bedded her - and her mother - 
    before hightailing it out of town.
    
    diagnosis:  She's a loser!
    
    Remedy:  Well, it's not Gary Ewing, the latest man to light up Kate's
    life.  A big-time loser in the game of love, Gary's carrying far too
    much emotional baggage to give Kate the realtionship she longs for.  
    She needs a lover who won't drive her crazy - someone who matches her
    energetic spirit and lustful soul.  Kate is about two rungs above Paige
    on the love ladder, and she's headed for a fall.
    
    That's it!!

    Thanks Cyndi, Peg for the update promise.  And thanks SOLVIT::PANTO
    (sorry, don't remember your firstname) for the SOD stuff.  I appreciate
    the efforts you guys are making in my behalf.
    
    Jan

    
    	Jan,
    
    	Her first name is Melissa.  =)
    
    	Or Mel for short.....
    
    	JJ
    

    re -1....
    
    JJ...I LOVE your personal name....haven't stopped laughing.....thanks
    for making my day!
    
    Peg

    here's a partial update from last night. I only got to see the last
    half of the show...damn company...don't they know that Knots is on on
    Thursday.....
    
    Mort is talking to Claudia about this million dollar transaction to
    some comapny. she wants to know who authorized it and he tells her that
    he will be checking into it (we all know of course it was the paper
    that Mac signed). She tells Mort to keep this secret between them. Mort
    with his "DO ME" baby eyes, agrees....
    
    Mac goes over to see Mary. When she realizes that it is him, she flips
    on the blank tape that just happens to be sitting in her boom box. Hey,
    doesn't everyone have a blank tape ready to go....anywho...he starts
    overturning furniture and wants to know where the money is. He tells
    her to stay away from Meg or he won't be responsible for his actions.
    She asks if this is a threat and he says "YES"...a neighbor comes from
    across the hall and wants to know what all the commotion is. Mary tells
    the neighbor thatMR MACKENZIE was just leaving...(more than likely the
    guy is going to testify that he saw Mac there and they were arguing.
    While Mac was rummaging through the house, he picked up this glass ball
    of some sort. This will probably be the murder weapon and now his
    finger prints are all over it. Later in the show, we see Karen going
    over to Mary's...the front door is open so inshe walks...the
    furniture is still a mess and there is Mary DEAD on the floor...insert
    triple bosom cluthcing by Karen.
    
    Claudia goes over to see Anne and wants to convince her they should
    join forces to stop the sports complex. Claudia tells Anne that if this
    project goes through, Paige and Gregg will be spending many longs
    nights and weekends together. Anne gets a tad p.o'ed and leaves to go
    riding. She hops on a horse that the ranch hand says is a bit cranky
    and suggests she ride another horse. Anne ignores him and off she goes.
    Well she's zooming pretty quick down the path when the end of the fence
    is 'round the corner. Horse stops and so does Anne, but she tries it
    face first on the ground. Next shot is of Anne in bed with a few
    boo-boos and is being examined by her baby doctor. The doctor wants to
    know why she was called and not Anne's regualr doctor. Anne comes clean
    with her about the false pregnancy and how this is the only reason Greg
    married her. Anne asks the doctor to tell Gregg that she had a
    miscarriage.The doctor tells her this is unethical and she can't. As
    Gregg is walking in, he asks the doctor how the baby is, she only
    replies that she is sorry.....Gregg sees Anne and tells her it is okay
    and that they can try again.
    
    While they are having dinner, a HUGE bouquet of flowers arrive. Carlos
    brings them in and Anne reads the card. It is for Gregg from the
    Japenese guy thanking him for arranging the deal to get Paige's
    baseball playing boyfriend over there. He tells Anne he did it because
    the guy was no good for Paige. Me thinks Anne is starting to wonder
    if Claudia is right.
    
    Nick brings Claudia into a retaurant, they are having a romantic dinner
    when he whips out this necklace. It looked like it was all diamonds by
    the way it sparkled. He tells her that it is about time she had someone
    take care of her. I thought Caludia was going to cry and I was going to
    hurl!
    
    PREVIEWS - Paige wants to know from Claudia where the other %500,000
    dollars went to that Mac signed for. Claudia tells her to get out of
    her office and paige replys there is a paper trail and she will find
    it. Just then TOM (insert pant pant) walks in and wants to talk to
    Paige about Mac. 
    
    Karen and Mac are talking in the kitchen about Mary's death and she
    wants to know what is going on. Apparently she grabbed the tape that
    had his threat to Mary on. Mac thinks that karen thinks he really did
    it. 
    
    There is another scence with Paige and Gregg but it isn't coming back
    to me that well...something about he wants to know her feelings about
    something and starts to stand closer to her...
    
    if anyone canadd in the first half-hour or fill in the missing spots,
    it would be appreciated.....
    
    
    Peg 

    
    
    	Peg,
    
    	Glad you like it.  =)  My manager got a pin with that saying
    	on it for one of the other women in our group.  I think it's
    	more fitting for me though.  =)
    
    	I'd love to find a t-shirt that says it....
    
    	JJ
    

    Good update Peg.  Some more comments/storylines.
    
    
    
    About the blank tape.  When Mary returns to her apt. she walks over to
    the tape player and inserts a blank tape saying something about proof. 
    So it looks like she had a pretty good feeling that Mac would come by
    her place after she kept her court authorized meetings with Meg.  
    
    Do you think her brother killed her?  She gave him $50K and the heave
    ho once he told her about his buddy taking Val and eventually being
    killed in the car crash.  Then again Mac is pretty stupid (IMO) and
    could probably do something so idiotic.  Mac kinda annoys me the way he
    thinks he knows all and won't accept any help from anyone.  His whole
    thing with trapping Mary flopped.  I would think he would have thought
    things out better and made sure all his equipment worked.  And heck, if
    he was planning to prove she was trying to get $$$ out of them I would
    think he could have used fake money on Mary.  Geez, that's a soap opera
    for you.  I mean we had to get real money so Claudia and Nick could
    open the restaurant.
    
    Oh, and Vannessa visited Ann and told her she knows about the fertility
    pills.  She got Ann to give her $2k a week.  
    
    And good old Greg once again messed with Paige's love life.  Ya gotta
    love him!
    
    The Nick & Claudia thing.  Think they're mutually using each other or
    maybe Claudia is really falling for smooth talking tall dark and
    handsome Nick? 
    
    ....Rania
    

    claudia may be falling for Nick, but we all know is past. He'll get
    what he needs and then it'll be time for him to moving along. I'm
    surprised that Claudia didn't take the diamond necklace off and scratch
    it on the glasses to make sure they were real. 
    
    Mary's brother had to kill her. Who else on the show could they blame.
    I was wondering where he had went to. He had to kill her, especially if
    she knew about him icing Val....Mac should be going to jail sometime
    soon. I agree with the holier than thou attitude he has. Yea, I'd want
    him for a lawyer for sure.
    
    Ya know, I wonder if Mac and Karen are going to loose custody of Meg
    and Gregg will take her back and take off to raise her. It's a
    possibility. 
    
    I'm SOOOOOOOOO glad Tom is back...he looks as yummy as he did when he
    left! Gregg is in for some steep competition from Tom now with Paige.
    the show is actually starting to get interesting again.
    
    Peg

    Great updates you guys.  Thanks very much.  I don't even feel
    like I missed it after reading such detailed updates.
    
    Jan

    Well, guess what I heard on the radio this morning?  After 14 years,
    this will be KNOTS last season!  There will be a 2 hour final episode
    some time in May.  Bummer!!!!
    
    Good updates!  Just something to add.  Mack, Karen, and Meg were having
    dinner and Meg wasn't eating anything.  They asked her why and she said
    because "nana" was coming the next day.  Mack told her that she was
    never going to come to see her again.  Karen was shocked and Meg was
    really happy.  When Meg goes to bed, Karen wants to know how much Mack
    gave Mary to leave Meg alone.  Mack tells her that he doesn't remember,
    and doesn't want to talk about it.  Karen is really worried.
    
    I think that about covers everything... 
    
    Mel

    Its true!  I read it in the newspaper yesterday.
    
    I was very sad.
    
    Karen

    
    I seem to recall someone wrote in that Greg was going to be killed off
    this season.  In my opinion if Greg is gone I think it's best to retire
    the show.  Greg pisses me off quite a bit meddling with Paige but for
    me he's the show. 
    
    ...Rania
    

    
    IF...they plan to kill off Greg...they are certainly playing up on
    Greg and Paige as "in Love".  Seeing that Greg has been meddling with
    her love life for some time now...don't you think they might get them
    together...taking back the business as a team ...happy as clams....
    THEN...let him die in her arms...of course just before the are to be
    married!  Yikes...
    
    ...just thinking again.
    

    I am going to attempt to update.  I was in out of the room so it might
    not be in order.
    
    Karen finds Mary's body in Mary's apartment.  She calls the police. 
    She tells the police to hurry that this is the second time she's
    called.  While she is waiting for the police she is looking around the
    room.  She notices the tape under some knitting.  She puts the tape in
    the recorder and is shocked to hear what is on it.  She then hears
    sirens and puts the tape in her coat pocket.  The policemen come in and
    start questioning her.  As she is trying to tell the man in walks Tom. 
    Karen asked Tom if he was in charge.  He said yes.
    
    Karen goes home (very late).  She's in the kitchen where there just
    happens to be a tape recorder/boom box.  She puts the tape in and in
    walks Mac asking where she has been.  She tells him about Mary.  He's
    shocked.  Then he asks why she has the recorder.  She said she wanted
    to hear if there was an update on the murder.
    
    Ann is sitting in bed and hears about the murder on the radio.  She
    askes Greg about it.  She kinda of accuses him of having Mary killed.
    
    Greg goes to see Paige.  He tells her about Ann losing the baby.  Paige
    said she was sorry to hear that.  She then offers to take him to lunch
    later and he says let me take you to lunch so you won't feel sorry for
    me.  Tom walks in and asks if he is interruppting anything.  Tom asks
    Paige about Mac.  Paige said she has to go to a meeting and to make an
    appointment.  After Paige walks out Greg asked Tom if he wanted to
    question him.  Tom said no because Greg would not have killed Mary
    himself he would have had someone else do it (just what Ann implied
    earlier).
    
    Vanessa comes over to Ann's house.  Ann had put a stop payment on the
    1000.00 check she gave Vanessa.  Vanessa was not a happy camper.  She
    told Ann she was going to tell Greg.  Ann so go ahead, cause I had a
    miscarriage yesterday.  Vanessa said I think Greg would be very
    interested to know there was no baby to begin with.  Ann said go ahead.
    
    Later that evening on the porch Ann tells Greg that there was no baby. 
    She thought she was pregnant when she found Greg in the mountains but
    knew there was no baby when they got married.  She said she wanted to
    marry him - he asked why.  She said for the money and status.  He was
    impressed that she was honest.  She also said that this would stop him
    from pursuing Paige.  He had plenty of oppourtunities to marry Paige
    and didn't.  There was a long silence and then he said.  1) they are to
    never talk about Paige again 2) this is a marriage of convenience - his
    3) she is to mind her own business
    
    Paige figures out that Mac got the money from Claudia.  She confronted
    Claudia.  Claudia said what are you going to do.  Paige said she was
    going to send Claudia to jail.
    
    Karen went to get the tape out of the recorder the next morning and it
    was gone.  She asked Mac where the tape was.  He said he didn't know. 
    She was afraid Tom got it when he was there to question Mac.  Meg comes
    home that afternoon and asked Karen where her tape was.  She made a
    tape and wanted to take it to school.  But when she got to school all
    that was on her tape was Daddy and Nana yelling at her.  Karen freaked
    out.  Karen found Meg's tape and they traded.
    
    Paige goes over to Mac's house and asks him where the other half of
    million is.  Mac doesn't know.  Karen asks what half of a million. 
    Paige figures out that Claudia has double crossed him.  Karen cannot
    believe what she is hearing.  She asks Mac if Paige knows about the
    tape.  Paige says what tape.  Mac says there is no tape see, as he puts
    it in the fire.  Tom knocks on the door.  He arrests Mac for killing
    Mary.  Apparently Mac's fingerprints were all over the object that
    killed Mary.
    
    Before that Claudia had summoned Tom to an alley to tell him that there
    was a million dollars missing from the Sumner Group.  And how Mac had
    been acting lately.  Tom said are you accusing Mac of taking the
    million - she said well you know.
    
    Previews - the only one I caught was Tom trying to kiss Paige and she
    slapped him.
    
    Sorry if I missed anything - like I said I was in and out the room.
    
    Tricia :)

    
    Great update Tricia just one thing that was pretty important....
    
    
    
    At the station Mary's ex-laywer is talking with Tom.  It seems Mary had
    a package mailed to her just in case something happened to her.  In it
    was a copy of the tape Karen took from Mary's appt.  So now Mac, Karen
    and Paige think the tape is destroyed but little do they know what
    evidence Tom has against Mac.
    
    I'm going to dread the next episodes with Mac playing his own attorney. 
    What an idiot...he saw how well he did in Meg's visitation case.
    
    Oh, and Kate found Gary a housekeeper/nanny.   They were leading us to
    believe it would be this attractive Swede who loved to cook, clean and
    play with children.  But, one evening as Gary & the twins are eating
    ice cream in walks Kate with Ingrid....an older woman.  
    
    Kate & Gary talked about their kiss and decided to put it past them and
    be friends again.  
    
    I just remembered one of the preview spoilers....at least I think I do. 
    Something about Greg telling Paige about Claudia's boyfriend (Nick) and
    his new restaurant...
    
    ...Rania
    
    

    the only other previews showed Paige and Karen talking to a lawyer for
    Mac.he told them that Mac wants to be his own attorney. 
    
    Paige is later snoppingin Claudia's office. Gregg is asleep on the
    couch and wakes up and asks Paige if the missing $50,00 0 has anything
    to do with Claudia's new Italian boyfriend. Maybe these 2 are going to
    join forces overthrow Claudia. 
    
    Last night when Paige confronted Claudia about the money, Claudia told
    her to get out of her ofice. later on we see Paige hacking through the
    computer and she comes across the account for Pacific Preservation with
    $1,000,000 withdrawn. She looks at Claudia through the glass divider,
    points her finger at Claudia as if it were a gun and pulls the trigger. 
    This is the only reason why Claudia went to Tom. She was afraid that
    Paige was going to blow the whistle in her.....
    
    I'm bummed that this is Knot's last season. 
    
    Peg
    

    Great job on the update!  
    
    One more thing took place.  Kate and Gary had a talk about their
    "encounter" and agreed that it was because he needed a shoulder to cry
    on and she was there, but that it would be great if they could start
    over and be friends.  He kissed her on the forehead and she looked
    slightly bummed, but covered well.  She then began helping him
    interview for a housekeeper.  This was pretty amusing as they showed
    all the different people who applied.  At the end of the show, Kate and
    Gary told the kids that the found someone they would like the kids to
    meet who loves kids, playing with kids, cooking for kids, etc.  And
    they introduce Ingrid (?).  She seems nice enough.  That was about it.
    
    A little more on the update for next week:
    
    Paige and Karen were talking to someone about representing Mac, and the
    guy said that Mac wanted to represent himself and that he (Mac) didn't
    want to see either Paige or Karen.  They looked shocked.  
    
    Note:  stupid Mac.  Take the blinders off!  You need all the help you
    	can get!  Even Karen threw at him during last night's show that
    	he's screwed things up for himself over and over again, and now
    	he'll have to get himself out of this one.
    
    They also showed a clip of Paige rifling through Claudia's desk and
    getting caught by Greg who was hiding(?) on the couch.  He's aware of
    the money situation that transpired between Claudia and Mac.  Maybe
    he'll offer to help?
    
    That's about all I can remember.
    
    Lynn
    

    Peg!  You and I entered at the same time!
    
    We miss you over here!
    
    Lynn
    

    Boy I missed alot.  Next Thursday I am sitting on the couch and not
    moving!!
    
    Thanks for all the fill-iners.
    
    Tricia :)

    thanks for all the updates!
    
    ann
    

    anyone want to venture guesses for the end of the show??? This is whatI
    be thinking....
    
    1) Karen leaves Mac.He won't be found guilty for Mary's murder, but he
    will loose all interest in practicing law. Afterall, he's not being
    very moral is he???
    
    2) Gary and Kate will end up together, The nanny won't work out, Kate
    will offer to help and Gary won't be able to stop falling for her
    
    3) Gregg takes back the Sumner group, gives Claudia the ole heave ho
    and leaves the company soley to Paige.
    
    4) Gregg takes back Meg and leaves to raise her on his own leaving Anne
    the great big divorce sum of NOTHING
    
    5) Nick uses Claudia for what he needs, takes the money and leaves
    
    6) Paige and Tom will get back together. You can tell there is still
    many many feeling between them. I do love how she blew him off when he
    was on "official" police business
    
    Any other predictions????
    
    Peg
     

    Actually got to see the show for a change but if I hadn't, the updates
    you guys provided would have made it feel like I saw it.  They were
    great.
    
    I like those predictions for the last show too.  I do hope they tie up 
    all the loose ends instead of just ending the series with bunches of
    unresolved story lines.
    
    Jan

    
    re:  updates....
    
    One note... When Paige, Karen and Mac were together discussing the
    tape...and buring the tape Mac's facial expressions were really ...
    .. weird ... and when they were arresting/handcuffing he looked like 
    ....he could have done it.  I guess you could say he had a madman look
    about him.
    
    re:  guesses...
    
    I too think they will go with the Greg...Paige team on the
    business side and one would think it wouldn't be too hard to get control
    back from Claudia.
    
    Katie and Gary may ...just friends for the mean time.  But when the
    nanny starts taking care of the twins...who do you think will have more
    time for fun!
    
    Well ....time to enjoy the weekend.
    
    ...el

    I loved the way that Anne handled that Too Tall Vanessa!  I hate the
    way that woman moves her mouth, I want to keep straightening out her
    lips.  I still love the way Greg gets all the good lines (the one where
    he says he didn't fall off the horse) he was pretty good in the last
    show.  
    
    I will miss this show especially since they have been heating it up
    lately  I think Claudia could have killed Mary because she wanted that
    $500K back!
    
    KJ

    that is a good one.....Claudia!!!!  I would love to see her sent
    away...obnoxious woman that she is!!  I think it is the brother
    tho.  Mac is too obvious...can't be him.  I'd like to see Greg
    toss Claudia out on her butt to make it on her own.
    

    I love Claudia!  She's one of those characters you love to hate.
    
    Jan

    
    You can't get rid of Claudia...every soap needs a woman you love to
    hate!  But, if this is indeed the last season maybe they will make her
    the killer.
    
    Claudia told Tom that $1M is missing from the Sumner group right? 
    Doesn't she care that Mac will find out she lied to Tom and actually
    helped him get $500K, although it's really $1M?
    
    Allright KJ...we feel the same way about Vanessa.  I think her acting
    is deplorable.  
    
    ....Rania
    

    they should just get rid of Vanessa..now that Anne has come clean about
    the baby to gregg, Vanessa can't be blackmailing anyone...and man oh
    man, that dress....what do they freshly paint the thing on right before
    her scene????
    
    Claudia is in for a fight for her job. Now that Gregg and Paige will
    hopefully join forces, there's no way out for her. 
    
    Mac is turning into some wild caged animal...the way that he treats
    Karen and Paige is deplorable...last week he actually seemed possesed.
    He's like a Jack from All My Children, terrible lawyer (when was the
    last time he had a case and WON), is busy sticking his nose into
    everyone's business and is just basically grinding on my nerves BIG
    TIME..you know Karen is going to leave him. Even she has her standards.
    
    I'm glad Tom is back, but he needs a HAIR CUT....just a small trim will
    do. When he was walking away from meeting Claudia, his hair was
    bouncing around and I almost thought that if there was a good gust of
    wind, he would have been air bound!
    
    Peg

    I also thought that Tom's doo was a little long.  I read in one of the
    supermarket tabloids that both Valene and Abby (YES!) will be coming
    back for the 2 hour finale!!!  It is too cool.  Imagine Claudia, Anne
    and Abby all at once.  I hope it is true!
    
    KJ

    I bet it is true! I knew Valene was alive!  As terrible as it will 
    be to end...I can't wait to see everything go down! Claudia and 
    Abbie in the same room........WOW!    Hope everyone gets all they 
    have coming!  

    Wait til Valene hears what Gary and Kate (will) have been up to!!
    
    Tricia :)

    Upcoming news -
    
    Max jumps bail to investigate a lead in Florida with Gary.  Karen is
    worried.
    
    Paige is forced to run interference with Tom.
    
    Sumner grows increasingly frustrated with the obstacles involved
    in the riot rebuilding effort.
    
    Anne wants to spend more time with Greg.
    
    
    Judi

    Behind the spoiler, is some scoop from the latest SOD:
    
LATE-BREAKING NEWS:  KNOTS KILLS OFF MARY AND BRINGS BACK DIANA
    
    In a quick casting move, KNOTS has re-signed Claudia Lonow to reprise
    the role of Karen's oldest daughter, the wayward Diana Fairgate.
    According to a KNOTS spokesperson, Lonow will make her first
    appearance on Feb. 18, airing for three episodes when Karen visits
    her in NY.  Lonow's entrance comes hot on the heels of a surprising
    exit.  Villainess Mary Robeson (Maree Cheatham) was killed off on
    Jan. 7.  Cheatham, who taped her final scenes late last year, says she
    already misses KNOTS.  "I loved playing that evil grandmother," she 
    muses.  "The role had humor and viciousness and meannes."  Cheatham
    is looking forward to tackling new soap roles.  She'd especially like
    to come back to Port Charles as GH's Aunt Charlene.  "I wrote to Exec
    Produce Wendy Riche and said, 'Wouldn't it be a good idea to bring
    Aunt Charlene back from Santa Moro.'" she relates.  "I wrote, 'I'd love
    to discuss travel plans with you.'"
    
    While she waits for a response, Cheatham is keeping busy.  "I've been
    trying to write," says the actress, who's currently putting together
    a one-woman show about her life.  "It's a survival manual," she quips.
    **********************************************************************
    VCR ALERT
    
    KNOTS's Mack may be down, but he's not beaten.  On Thurs. Jan 28, this
    feisty fellon is out of jail and ready for action.  When he starts his
    own investagation, he finds out a lot - and fast.  But will his 
    knowledge land him in even deeper trouble?  Meanwhile, Paige and Sumner
    conduct a little investigation of their own - call it Operation
    Claudia.  When they pressure Claudia for answers about those missing
    funds, she almost plays right into their hands.  But desperation gives
    Claudia a new idea, and she cuts a surprising deal with her beau, Nick.
    Will the devious duo get away with it?  And Persistence pays off for 
    lovelorn Kate.  Look for a new twist in her relationship with Gary as
    this pair finally throws caution to the wind.
    **********************************************************************
    FEBRUARY PREVIEWS:
    
    In order to clear his name, Mack will continue his own investigation 
    into the murder of Mary Robeson,, which creates major problems in his
    marriage to Karen.  Sumner will attempt to reclaim his power base at 
    the Sumner Group, but will meet with opposition from both Paige and 
    Claudia.  Paige will also be busy monitoring Nick and Claudia's growing
    relationship, and continuing her cat and mouse game with Tom.  What
    will Gary do when Kate's life is put in jeopardy?
    *****************************************************************
    GONE, BUT NOT FORGOTTEN:
    
    Wanted:  Abby Ewing
    
    Description:  Cool, lethal blonde with a knack for manipulation and a
    flair for homewrecking.
    
    Last Known Address:  Somewhere in Japan (Humming Bobby McFerrin tunes)
    
    Past Imperfections:  Arranging to have Val's twins kidnapped; causing 
    breakup number one for Paige and Greeg; covering up a murder; general
    bed-hopping to further personal and business interests.
    
    Who's Rolling Out the Welcome Mat:  This is a tough call.  Believe it
    or not, sister-in-law Karen MacKenzie would probably like to see Abby's
    perfectly made-up face again now that Val is gone.  Abby's ex, Gary,
    may be happy to see her, too - especially with the lonely nights he's
    had lately.
    
    Bonus Points:  Claudia stands to gain a lot of power with control of
    the Sumner Group; Abby would be a formidable adversary for the
    conniving Ms. Whittaker. Meow!!
    ********************************************************************
    WHAT WILL HAPPEN:
    
    This was previously posted.
    

    Well I won't be putting in an update today.  I fell asleep right before
    the show began, can you believe it??
    
    I hope someone else can put in an update.
    
    Tricia :)

    I'll give the update a try.....
    
    Karen and gary try to see Mac right after he is arrested but are told
    he is being booked and it'd be hours before they could see him. A
    lawyer tells karen he will go and talk to Mac. The next day Paige and
    Karen are told by the lawyer that Mac is defending himself and he
    doesn't want to see karen. She goes to court anyways to find out that
    bail has been set for ONE MILLION CASH....
    
    Paige is babysitting Meg as Karen is off trying to see Mac. Meg
    overhears the tv about the custody battle between Mac and the
    grandmother. She wants to talk to Paige about it and Paige is trying to
    change the subject. later on Kate shows up and helps Meg fall asleep.
    Karen is slowly coming apart at the seams. Paige asks her if she wants
    to spend the night, at first Karen says no and then says yes. She then
    tries to find Paige some pj's (like Paige wears them!) and then Karen
    is looking for sheets for her. As she opens the cabinet where the
    sheets are, they fall to the floor, Piage walks over and just hugs
    Karen as she is crying. 
    
    Paige looks for Tom to try and talk to him about Mac's case. Tom is
    rather snooty and tells Paige to have Mac plead out. With a
    manslaughter finding, Tom tells Paige that Mac will be out in time to
    see Meg off to her senior prom! Paige leaves in a huff. Later on, the
    cop who was moonlighting with Mac to videotape the money exchange
    between Mac and Mary, tells Tom that the money was marked. Later on,
    Tom goes to Paige's apartment to tell her that some of the money had
    turned up in a store in Pacadena. The reason why Tom is there, is that
    when he was leaving the station, he turns on the radio, and "We've only
    just begun" was playing...he starts having flashbacks when he and Paige
    first got together. While at her apartment, he kisses her. It looked
    like she was kissing him as well, but Paige pulls away and slaps him. 
    
    Paige visits Nick at his new restaurant and tries to get info out of
    him where he got the money for it. Of course Nick plays real stupid
    that the money came from Claudia. Earlier, Mort had confessed to Paige
    that he came across the Pacific Preservation fund and had turned it
    over to Claudia to take of. 
    
    Paige is later snooping in Claudia's office. As she flicks on the desk
    lamp, she sees Gregg on the couch. She tells him she was looking for a
    pen. He mentions something about the missing money and Claudia's
    Itialian boyfriend. Looks like they will join forces.
    
    There was something about the new sports complex but I really didn't
    follow it closely. Gregg pulls a few strings, has a building torn down
    and starts talking about plans for the complex. He places a phone call
    to the chief of police (or someone of that level) and asks him to take
    Tom off the Mackenize case. Karen shows up and asks Gregg for the bail
    money for Mac. He agress without a problem. 
    
    I think that is about all I can remember. Previews for next week showed
    Kate and Gary kissing again. he pulls away and tells her that he is not
    ready. She replies with, everytime I'm in the room with you, I feel
    this attraction.
    
    Gregg is talking to Claudia about the missing money. He tells her to
    make the problem disappear, or she will disappear!!!
    
    Oh, one more thing on the update. Vanessa is in her dressing room and
    Nick walks in. He sees the plane ticket to Australia and asks Vanessa
    why she is leaving. She replies that that is a place she'd like to
    visit. He rips up the ticket and tells her, do you really think that I
    couldn't find you? he has this real possessed look in his eyes. The
    whole scene takes place with the both of them talking to each other in
    the mirror. He is standing behind her the whole time and is looking
    right through her.He tells her that they can control this town and they
    will begin with her starting to work at Nick's restaruant. We still
    don't know what happened with these 2 in the past to cause Vanessa to
    have panic written all over her face everytime she sees him.
    
    Now, that's about it......if anyone can add, please do so!!!
    
    I'm PSYCHED Abby is returning...her and Claudia together...big time
    brawl. I guess Knots is pulling out the stops for the finale. This is
    definately a night to tape!
    
    Peg   

I just finished typing an update when I realized someone else put one in.
    oh well, I think between the two, you'll get the picture.

Karen is at the police station with Gary.  It's really confusing there.
They won't let her see Mack because their in the process of booking him.
They wait and wait, and a guy (William?) comes in and says that he's
the lawyer.  He told Karen that she should just go home because she 
won't be able to see him until his arraignment, and that's the next
day.  He said that he would be seeing Mack later.  Karen and Gary leave.

At Karen's house, Paige is there babysitting Meg.  Paige is watching
the news and they mention that Mack was arrested for the murder of
Mary Robeson.  Meg asks a lot of questions, where's mommy and daddy,
when are they coming back, are they in trouble, etc.  The phone rings
and it's Kate.  Paige tells Kate she needs help asap with Meg.  Kate's
on her way over.  Paige brings Meg into the kitchen and makes her some
cocoa.  Meg and Paige hear a car and Meg goes running to door hoping to find
her parents, but it's Kate.  Meg goes running up to her room.  Kate
and Paige follow.  Greg calls and wants to know how Meg is doing.  Paige
says fine.  Kate has "gus" with her, which is a stuffed dog.  She tells
Meg that she always tells Gus her problems and he listens and it makes
her feel better.  Meg holds onto Gus.  Kate goes into Mack and Karen's
bedroom and asks Paige who called.  Paige says Greg.  Kate tells Paige
that Meg is fast asleep.

Greg is at this warehouse, and the kid (flynn) that greg put in charge of 
getting a construction crew together in the neighborhood, comes in and tells 
Greg that he's full of it.  I guess the building next to the one that
Flynn's mother works in was suppose to be torn down 2 days ago and nothing
has been done on it.  Greg calls the mayor and the mayor comes down.  He
tells Greg that it's not that easy and brings in a bunch of people to
complain to Greg about what would happen if they torn that building down.
(i think that was why they were complaining).  Anyway, after it was all
overwith, Greg says to Flynn, "Welcome to the real world."  Flynn then
says, "Yeah, so what are you going to do about it, quit?"  Greg replies
with, "I never quit, what about you?"  End of scene.

Gary and Karen come home and Karen updates Paige.  Kate and Gary go in
the kitchen.  Paige asks Karen if she wants her stay.  Karen says no,
then breaks into tears and says, "I want you to stay!"  Paige hugs her.
In the kitchen, Kate gets Gary his pizza and heats it up for him and
gets him some milk.  He tells her what a great help she is, and how
the twins love her.  She grabs him hand, and he gets up and says, "I
think I'll get a soda now."  Karen is getting Paige some sheets and
towels and when she opens up the closet to get the sheets out, they
fall on the floor and Karen breaks down and cries on Paige's shoulder
again.

The next day:  Karen and Paige (looking like slob, very unusual) go to
the courthouse to see Mack.  William tells them that Mack is being
arraigned at Municipal Court and it probably started 10 minutes ago.
He told them that Mack didn't want him as his lawyer and he didn't want
to see Karen at all.  Karen and Paige run over to Municipal court and
can't find Mack in all the confusion.  Paige leaves to find out some
information.  Karen asks the bailiff if Mack was already arraigned.
She says "yes, on $1M cash bail".  Karen is upset and leaves.  Paige
hears Tom's voice.  She turns the corner and Tom is getting his shoes
shined.  She tells Tom that she wants him to help Mack because he knows
that Mack didn't kill that woman.  Tom tells her that there's incriminating
evidence against Mack, including the tape.  She then tells him that it's
his job to find the right person that killed the woman, not to blame it
on someone else, like Mack.  She calls him a bastard and leaves.

Karen goes to tell Gary about the $1M cash bail.  Gary offers to mortgage
his home.  Karen said that they can't mortgage her and Mack's home because
they already have a 2nd mortgage out on it.  Gary wants to help, but Karen
says no.  

Paige is in her office, looking beautiful, and Tom walks in.  He asks her
questions about the Pacific Preservation.  She told him that she didn't
know anything about it because it was part of the foundation.  Greg
walks in and he leaves.  Greg said, "Was that business or pleasure?"
Paige says, "It was a pleasure, and it's none of your business".  Greg
wants to know about Mack, and then tells Paige about Nick the slimeball's
restaurant.  Greg leaves.  Paige goes to Nick's restaurant and he's there.
She's asks for Claudia, and he says that she's not there.  Paige tries
to find out if Claudia was the one that gave him the money for the
restaurant.  He tells her that she's sticking her pretty little nose
in places where it doesn't belong.  She leaves.  She goes back to the
office.  Mort is in her office, and she's looking at a report.  All we
can see is Mort staring at her legs.  Anyway, Paige asks about the 
pacific Perservation.  Mort said, "We didn't have this conversation, ok?"
She says, "It depends what I find out?"  Mort tells her that he flagged
it to Claudia, and she told him that she would take care of it and not
to tell anyone about it.  Paige thanks him and he leaves.

Vanessa is in her dressing room.  Nick comes in and finds a plane ticket
to Australia.  Vanessa said that she was just going to visit cuz she
got fired.  Nick told her that she wasn't going anywhere and ripped up
the ticket.  He said, with Greg Sumner, Anna, and Claudia, we got it
made here.  We're going to use these people!  and, you're going to work
in my restaurant.  

Greg is at one of the sites, and he picks up the phone and calls the
police commissioner.  He tells the commissioner that he would be making
a very big mistake keeping Tom on the MacKenzie case and would appreciate
it if he took him off.  As he's hanging up, Karen drives up.  She apologizes
for Mack's behavior toward him, and he says, "How much?"  She says, what?
he says, "Well, this is what it's all about, right?  Getting Mack out of
jail?  How much?"  She says, "$1m"  He says, "done."  She smiles and leaves.

It's evening and Karen is reading a story to Meg.  The phone rings and Karen
hangs up all happy, screaming, "Daddy's coming home!"  She grabs her purse
and starts to head out the door when Meg brings it to her attention that
she has her pj's on.  Karen laughs and goes to change.

Paige is at the office and starts snooping around in Claudia's office.
She turns the light on, and Greg is laying on the couch and says something
to her.  She asks him what he's doing there?  He tells her that he's
visiting.  He tells her that if Claudia had something to do with the
$1M, she wouldn't leave any evidence in her office.  Greg asks for some
compassion and wants a hug.  She tells him that he's married, and she's
not interested.  She leaves.  

Tom Ryan is in his office, and the cop that helped Mack walks in and tells
him that he marked all the money that Mack gave to Mary.  Tom thanks him
and he leaves.  Tom is leaving the office, and gets in his car.  He turns
the radio on, and the song, "We've Only Just Begun" plays and he sits there
and smiles and they show flashbacks of him and Paige together.  He leaves
and goes to Paige's apt.  She opens the door and wants to know what he
wants. He goes in and tells her about the marked money.  Paige says that's
great.  She then says, "So, you came over here at 2 am to tell me that you
still think that Mack is guilty?  I should be thanking you."  He grabs her
face and kisses her.  She slaps his face, and he leaves.

I think that's it.  Please add if I missed anything.

    I am excited about the returnees too....but I just wish they wouldn't
    waste time on Nick and Vanessa...even Tom....if this is the last 
    season I think the time could be better spent!  I am very disappointed
    in the way they are doing things lately....like when are they
    mentioning Frank!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????   You would think they would 
    have to now...him and mac in practice together....wouldn't now be the
    time mac enlists his help or he comes forward and offers.....they no
    longer have a character we've seen every week and don't explain it!!
    
    oh well...perhaps this soap has had it's time...much as i love it

    re -1
    
    do you know that the man who played Frank passed away a few months ago
    from AIDS? Someone mentioned (I think awhile back) that they said he
    was off seeing Julie...Peggy (the secretary) is gone as well. No
    mention of her either....
    
    I still wanna know what is up between Vanessa and Nick...man, she
    totally falls apart when he's around.
    
    Peg

    Does anyone have last nights show on tape?  1/21?  I'll be glad
    to trade a new blank tape for your taped episode!
    
    					AKOCOA::CJACQUES
    

    I knew that "frank" died.  But I figured they'd make more mention.
    Like he decided to stay there or something by now.  And now is 
    defintely the time you would think frank would come home to help 
    mac....
    
    I have last nights on tape and can send it to you after my sister 
    and mother watch it....by Monday I'm sure....
    
    Linda     CSLALL::LMURPHY 
    
    

    My sister said that on an Entertainment Tonight they said there
    was one woman they were bringing back from the dead for the final
    show.  She doesn't follow it enough to know who it was.
    
    The only one I could think of was Linda.  But why would they waste
    the time to bring back someone that really wasn't as big on the show
    as say.....LAURA!!!!!!  Now there's someone who they should try to
    bring back to life.   I mean, Linda was good....but Laura was a pivotal
    character for a long time.   If they going to try to work in a "dead"
    person.....
    
    I'm just hoping she saw Constance McCashin (wasn't that her name?) and
    she's just died her hair in the meanwhile.
    
    Anyone see that show?
    							cj
    

    I meant to point out....my sister said the woman on the show
    (E.T). was a blond.  (Kind of bleachy, she said).
    
    					cj
    

    
    Val's kinda bleachy....and she's "suppose to be" dead...and I believe
    someone said that Val and hopefully Abby would be there for the final
    season....perhaps Mac and Greg do find her in alive and well in FL?
    
    RE:  Tom's hair
    the first night he was on it looked like he had gotten a nasty perm
    burn..( I thought it was just me...until someone else noticed it)
    But...last week it looked like he had a quick fix (mega dose of
    protein).
    
    RE:  Tom & Paige
    I don't know why but I just don't like them together...perhaps because
    I think the chemistry is sooooo much better with Greg.

    My sister saw it and said that Val, Abby and Dianna were back.  
    I wish I had seen it, she discovered it on with 10 minutes left.
    I never thought Val was dead anyway....they found her rings in 
    the car....not on her hand

    I heard it was Val.  And Abby IS coming back.  ET said she is behind
    some of the goings on that have been happening.
    
    The last episode is 2 hours.
    
    Tricia :)

    Updates anyone?   I fell asleep again as usual.
    
    Tricia :)

    Now I feel dumb.  I never thought of Val.  I guess because we 
    "know" she's not dead.  I was trying to think of someone really
    dead.  I thought they were going to have a haunting or something.
    You know, someone's conscious acting up.  
    
    Pooh!  I guess Laura will remain r.i.p.   
    
    I can't wait to see Abby again.  Too bad Tonya Crowe couldn't stop
    in for a quick good-bye.
                                         Cindy
    

    Who's Tonya Crowe?
    
    Tricia :)

    Abbie's daughter I beleive (the actress's name)

    Don't feel bad, I was hoping for Laura too!!!
                                                 Natalie

    I'll try a quick update...
    
    Mac is being is regular pain in the butt..someone get him an enema!!!
    karen picks up Mac and she tells him how excited Meg is that he is
    coming home. He tells her to drop him off at the office, he has lots of
    work to do. They bring Peggy (the secretary) back and she is busy
    running around doing things for him. Later Mac goes to see the landlord
    of Mary (the guy who heard them arguing), He (landlord) is outside
    putting his bottles in the appropriate recyclable bin when Mac shows
    up, picks upa broken bottle, puts it near the guys face and wants to
    know if he saw anyone else leaving Mary's apartment that day and where
    was her brother. Later on, Tom shows up at Mac's house and wants to
    know what he is doing threatening a witness. They argue, Meg over hears
    them, gets upset and runs upstairs. 
    
    Gary's nanny  quits. For lunch they wanted a cookie and she wanted to
    give them an apple. Gary walks in and tells her to give them both.
    Later on, she tells him that things are not working out and she is
    leaving. He asks her to stay as he is heading to florida on business.
    She tells him no and he calls Kate. kate shows up later with overnight
    bag in hand (gary was leaving first thing in the a.m.) they go over
    when the kids get the bus, when they come home, etc etc...he tells her
    that the guest room isn't made up or she can sleep on the couch. As he
    grabs the sheet to make up the bed, she starts to kiss him. He pulls
    away saying that he isn't ready. She goes to go to sleep on the couch,
    he comes over and says that he feels like he is cheating on Val but
    heis ready to try...they start smooching....looks like some serious
    tonsil tag here.
    
    Gregg tells Claudia to do something about the missing money or he will
    do something about her. She goes to see Nick, who almost played kissey
    face with Anne at the restaurant, but she pulled away. anne leaves and
    claudia wants to know how much money is left from the $500,000. Nicks
    tells her that he spent everything. She is starting to panic now and he
    tells her not to worry. they will come up with the money somehow. When
    claudia returns to her office, Nick is on the couch waiting for her. He
    brought her a bottle of wine with a card, she opens the card and sees a
    check for $500,000. He tells her now that their bond is more special or
    something like that. She wants to know if he got it form the mafia,
    Nick laughs and tells her not every itailan has mafia connections. He
    tells her where he got the money is not important. 
    
    paige has done some snooping and calls a mtg with Karen, Mac, Claudia
    and herself to talk about the Pacific Preservation society. Mac is
    still defending claudia saying that she was the only one to help him. 
    Paige got ahold of the lease of the restaurant with Claudia's name on
    the lease. Claudia wants to know how she got it.....Paige pulls up the
    file and Claudia has gotten the money into the account so only the
    money that Mac has is gone. 
    
    gary is off to florida to find mary's brother, and mac decided to go
    too. he sneaks out at night and leaves a note for Karen probably
    telling her what was up. 
    
    I think that's all for now...I know this is quick...but at least it'll
    give ya an idea of what is going on....
    
    Peg

    Upcoming News from SOD -
    
    *  Claudia & Nick worry when Greg announces he wants The
       Sumner Group back.
    
    *  The charges against Mack are resolved, but Karen leaves him
       & takes Meg to N.Y.
    
    *  Paige tries to get Mack's Sumner stock.
    
    *  Kate has an "accident" while out with the twins.
    
    
    Judi

    
    
    	A few tidbits from this week's STAR magazine.
    
    	Val returns to Knots dressed as a bum and has dyed her hair
    	brown.  She's disguising herself from the people who kidnapped
    	her.  She eventually is reunited with Gary, Karen and Mac.
    
    	Abby returns to Knots and we'll find out that she was involved
    	with the conspiracy to kidnap Val!  She comes back and buys 
    	her old house in the cul-de-sac.
    
    

    why would Abby be involved with the kidnap attempt on Val? Surely it
    would not be for the reason that she wants Gary back????? 
    
    Does anyone have any idea when the last show is? Maybe I should start
    taping them. It certainly sounds like it is starting to look good....
    
    isn't the house that Claudia is living in, Abby's old house before she
    moved into the mansion with Gary? 
    
    come on 10:00....it should be good!
    
    Peg

    Due to circumstances beyond my control, I won't get to watch 
    tonight.  Can I count on you guys for an update?
    
    Jan

Here's some scoop from the latest SOD:

KNOTS SAYS GOOD-BYE:  COMEBACKS SLATED FOR FINAL EPISODE

After nearly 14 years on the air, KNOTS LANDING will end its run in may,
thanks to a mutual decision between KNOTS and CBS.  The show plans to go
out in style.  exec. Prod./Creator David Jacobs told SOD that Abby (Donna
Mills) will be one of the familiar faces returning for KNOTS's farewell 
episode.  "She'll be coming back in the end, but I'm not saying how," says
Jacobs with a smile.

When asked to comment on the rumor that the recently deceased Val (Joan
Van Ark) will also return, Jacobs is more elusive:  "How can she come back?
Not that death has ever stopped a character before."  Jacobs is pleased with
the final episode.  "We thought of all kinds of gimmicks to use on our
last show.  We wound up using none," he says.  "There's a little surprise
at the end.  It's a sensible, logical, rational completions of an almost
14 year series.  If I did a movie, I would end it the same way."

Jacob's reasons for ending KNOTS's tenure are financially based.  "Because
of the economy over the last few years, we really can't sustain the show
where we want to," he explains.  "This year, we had to reduce the actors'
paricipation.  each actor was taken out of four episodes.  Just when you
get some momentum going, voila!  You cant' use Devane or Dobson.  It got
very tough."

If the show were to continue, Jacobs says it would have had to cut another
$200,000 per episode.  Also, William Devane (Greg), who just cut a deal with
ABC to star in and possibly produce a new show; and Nicollette Sheridan
(Paige).  "We persuaded Devane and Nicollette to stay for another year,"
Jacobs says.  "Nicollette is a hot young actress.  Her agents are anxious
to get on with her career."

Kevin Dobson (mack) will look back on his KNOTS experience fondly.  "I'd
like to thank KL's viewers," he remarks.  "I'm proud to have been a part of 
a talented group of producers, writers and actors who worked hard to put
together an excellent show."  Michelle Lee (Karen) says she's felt the end
coming for a while.  "This past year, I've been thinking about it a lot,"
she admits.  "Certainly, all those cutbacks made us think about it.  I 
knew the show had been very expensive, and I started to let go emotionally."
She hasn't let go completely - Lee anticipates a tearful good-bye: "When
I walk into my dressing room for the last time, and look at all my 
pictures and drawings and wonderful notes from fans, I will probably feel the
end of a certain era in my life."  Does Lee have future plans?  "There's
a large drawing board before me," she says.  "I have my own production
company, and I'm looking forward to acting and directing."

Unlike Lee, Kathleen Noone (Claudia) hasn't been on KNOTS for 14 years.
But that doesn't mean she won't miss the show.  "The company of KNOTS 
actors have all been a pleasure to work with," Noone says.  "The writers
and editors, office staff and crew have all been wonderful.  It was my
privilege to work with them."  When she first heard that KNOTS was
going off the air, Noone says, "I had two reactions - a little
disapplintment and a little fear.  But now, I'm looking forward to whatever
the next adventure is going to be."
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OLDER AND WISER, KNOTS'S DIANA COMES BACK

KL fans will be looking at a kinder, gentler Diana Fairgate when she returns
to the show on Feb. 18.  Her portrayer, Claudia Lonow, says that Diana will
be quite a support for her mom, Karen, who visits her in NY for advice on
her troubles with Mack.  "Diana's lending a sympathetic ear to Karen,"
Lonow explains.  "She's pro-Mack and wants them to work things out.  It's
sort of a departure from the classic Diana.  In the past, she was really
out there.  She always had an opinion, damn it!" 

Lonow says that Diana's success as a NY fastion designer has made her more
mellow.  "I think being on her own taught Diana to be much more of an adult,"
she says.  "Her and Karen's relationship has been a lot less tempestuous."
In Manhattan, Diana has been living the high life, reports Lonow, adding
that Ms. Fairgate has amassed a beautiful new wardrobe and "The most
fabulous loft in NY."

Of course, Diana hasn't completely relaxed.  "You can see a lot of the old
Diana in her relationship with Meg," Lonow observes.  "Diana feels that Meg
is a little bit of a brat.  Meg competes with Diana for Karen's attention
and vice versa."  The actress, who left KNOTS in 1984, says that it wasn't
difficult to step back into character.  "It was even easier than I thought
it would be," she enthuses.  Lonow will be on KNOTS for three episodes.
**************************************************************************
ISN'T IT ROMANTIC:  PAIGE AND HER BOOK OF LOVE

"I love being by myself.  I'm a pretty private person," Nicollette Sheridan
(Paige) once told SOD.  Nowadays, her life is anything but private.  The
tabloids had a field day when Shridan bolted from Harry Hamlin (ex-Michael,
LA LAW) after a very brief marriage and rushed into the arms of Grammy-
winning pop singer Michael Bolton.  The 29-year-old soap siren seems to
prefer older men:  Hamlin was 12 years her senior; Bolton has a 10 year
lead on her.  If the romance lasts, the LA-based actress may face some
lifestyle adjustments.  Not only is Bolton's home turf Westport, Conn.,
but the divorced dad has three teenage daughters.  Meanwhile, don't look for
Bolton to stage a concert in the angst-ridden cul-de-sac anytime soon.
Asked about a possible Bolton-from-the-blue guest stint, a KNOTS 
spokesperson told us, "there's an excellent chance that he probably won't."
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    What are the chances that Abby and Nick are working together?????
    
    

    i bet you are right...he is a traveler and they mustv'e met up!
    i love kate and greg together...they are so cute
    did greg SIGN anything about his business?   i wonder if he 
    will be able to take it back...