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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

1258.0. "How has this file changed you?" by THOLIN::TBAKER (Flawed To Perfection) Tue Aug 13 1996 21:09

    I'm learning to look to the Bible more for wisdom and 
    understanding.  I still don't take it as the absolute
    word of God and don't think I ever will.
    
    I'm glad we're here.
    
    Tom
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1258.1God's Word says it bestPHXSS1::HEISERwatchman on the wallTue Aug 13 1996 21:183
 "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an
 answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with
 meekness and fear:" - 1 Peter 3:15  
1258.2MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Tue Aug 13 1996 21:303
    In other words Tom, the equivalent of Aesops fables.  
    
    -Jack
1258.3Yes, glad to be hereDELNI::MCCAULEYWed Aug 14 1996 13:249
    Struggling in here has had a profound effect on me.  I have learned so
    much.  Having my own faith under attack, although painful, has
    strengthened my own faith.  I feel very connected and part of many in
    here who I have never met.   
    
    Someday I will be an ordained minister.  I may even consider some form
    of electronic ministry!
    
                                      Patricia
1258.4SMARTT::DGAUTHIERWed Aug 14 1996 19:5837
Well, I've certainly learned a lot.  Mostly, I think I've gotten a better
understanding of how and what devout christians believe.  I've learned that
strict belief in the bible establishes basline fact FROM which some begin
discussion.  Matters and evidence of science or nature are regarded as
secondary to biblical fact.  I was not (and am still not) in my element when
discussing matters inside that arena.  But, since that's the context in which 
many prefer to converse, I do my best... and learn as I go. 

I've gotten a better appreciation for the bible in the process.  I've become
more open minded when regarding biblical passages and wisdoms.  I do not and
may never believe that it is word-for-word truth... or "God Breathed".  But
I've become more open to those parts which I can and do accept thanks to the 
efforts of some in this conference.  Again, I've learned from you and for
that I express my gratitude.

In my efforts to find the truth, I've wandered into the realm of eastern
thought.  I've discussed, or tried to discuss, some of the more striking
parallels I've noticed between christian and Zen Buddhist philosophies.  A
sparse few have seen some truth in what I've proposed.  Many more have 
admonished the notion to the point of almost not wanting to consider the
possibility.  I'm still puzzling over why that's so.

Despite all the differing views on the various topics, I'm pleased to find that 
most "stick with it".  Offenses are sometimes inadvertently given... and
mistakenly taken and sometimes things get heated.  But eventually things cool
down and healthy interchange again prevails.  To those I've offended over
the months or years, I offer my sincere apologies.

I've said that I'm in the process of searching for the truth, whatever that is.
I do not expect to ever be in any other mode.  I suspect that searching is what
I've been "designed" to do and that the real truth is either not available to
me or recognizable by me.  As I go, my beliefs change as a function of what
I've learned.  And I've learned a lot from the interchange in this conference.

-dave


1258.5LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 227-3978, TAY1)Wed Aug 14 1996 20:069
re Note 1258.4 by SMARTT::DGAUTHIER:

> may never believe that it is word-for-word truth... or "God Breathed".  

        Do not confuse the two -- the "breath of God" is powerful and
        quickening, but it does not guarantee perfection (freedom
        from error) in that which is the result.

        Bob
1258.6PHXSS1::HEISERwatchman on the wallWed Aug 14 1996 21:183
    Re: -1
    
    Are you implying that God makes mistakes?
1258.7LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 227-3978, TAY1)Thu Aug 15 1996 03:147
re Note 1258.6 by PHXSS1::HEISER:

>     Are you implying that God makes mistakes?

        No.

        Bob