| Title: | * * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * * |
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I am in a sequenced backed duo. Me on guitar/vocals and a girl on
vocals. I need some suggestions for a mixer to use for live shows.
I saw a couple of Kawaii 16 channel mixers about 1.5ft long by
1 ft across and thought that would be pretty good instead of lugging
a big 4-5 ft desk around.
But they seemed to be sort of dedicated to say keyboard mixing.
By that I mean they didn't have any auxillary sends only effects sends.
Does anyone know of say 12-16 channel desk that has 2 aux sends 1
effect send and 2-3 stage eq that isnit to expensive and is small
and light?
If you do could you give me an idea of price. Oh yeah the
reason I want aux sends instead of eff sends is that effect sends
are post fader adjustment and I want to use the aux as foldback sends.
thanks in advance
P.K.
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| 2792.1 | One possibility | ATIS01::ASHFORTH | Wed Dec 18 1991 10:19 | 35 | |
I'm in a different situation, but have also been looking at mixers. I do home recording using synths, vocals, acoustic-electric guitar and miked acoustic instruments. I also play at my church with pretty much the same mix, and sometimes "play out" on piano, but with an amp for vocals and other folks' miked instruments. In my case, I've been dithering between a line mixer for my rack and a small console to do "double duty." (I've sort of figured out I'll probably want both *eventually*.) I'm *almost* certain that I'm going to skip the line mixer for now and pick up the Mackie 1202. I don't have the ad with me, but here's what I recall: This unit has four stereo inputs (i.e., two inputs for a single channel) and four mike/line inputs with trim control and both XLR and phone jack inputs. You could, of course, gang two mono inputs for any one of the "stereo" channels, but the most natural use would be for four SGUs and four mike or mono line-level inputs. Each channel has two-stage EQ, two effects sends (each with stereo return, as I recall), pan (which amounts to "balance" for the stereo inputs), and level. Channels 1-4 have trim control, as mentioned, and direct outs which double as inserts (never heard them called "aux sends" as opposed to "effects sends"), depending on the wiring of the jack/cord used. The specs cited are quite impressive, and the "big brother" of this unit, the 1604, has apparently gotten rave reviews (though I haven't read them myself). Mackie's been advertising this in both Keyboard and Electronic Musician for a while now- the ad gives pretty detailed info, and I found the folks who answer the phone at Mackie friendly and well-informed about the product. The list on these is $399, and Sam Ash quoted a selling price of $320. Don't know if this would fill your needs or not. If you need "bigger," the 1604 (old Sam Ash catalog price $895) is a superb unit as well, with more of everything. Bob | |||||
| 2792.2 | Lotsa notes about this already... | MANTHN::EDD | We fish ewe a mare egrets moose | Wed Dec 18 1991 10:32 | 32 |
DIR/KEY=MIXER* yielded the following notes on mixers. I think at least
one of them would be an appropriate place to continue this string.
Edd
COMMUSIC Co-mod
279 GVADG1::HANNA 23-MAR-1986 9 Mixers (dated)
837 AKOV68::EATOND 10-JUN-1987 15 Recording to Multi-track Tape Using External Mixer
922 MAY20::BAILEY 28-AUG-1987 36 Yamaha DMP7 8 Channel Digital Mixer
1113 AKOV68::EATOND 30-DEC-1987 96 Specs for Synth Mixers (Rackmount)
1214 JAWS::COTE 15-FEB-1988 15 Potentiometers for Mixer (or Pot Dealers Wanted)
1432 FGVAXZ::LAING 6-JUN-1988 7 Small Rackmount Mixer and Gear?
1464 FGVAXZ::LAING 16-JUN-1988 10 Simmons SPM8:2 Programmable Mixer
1504 MIDEVL::YERAZUNIS 5-JUL-1988 105 Cheap, Quiet Mixer Plans
1637 2427::CHAD 22-AUG-1988 1 Roland M160 16 Channel Rackmount Mixer
1711 BTO::BESSETT_K 5-OCT-1988 25 Need Info. on Low-Price Mixers
1724 MARVIN::MACHIN 17-OCT-1988 2 Simmons SPM8 mixer
1765 MRSVAX::MISKINIS 9-NOV-1988 2 Build this mini-mixer!
1896 SCENIC::BYRNE 8-FEB-1989 11 Line Mixer vs. Regular Mixer
1952 WEFXEM::COTE 4-APR-1989 47 Alesis 1622 Mixer
2026 DRUMS::FEHSKENS 16-JUN-1989 2 New Tascam MM1 Line Mixer
2029 BARDIC::RAVAN 19-JUN-1989 2 My old Fostek 8-track mixer is acting up
2089 RTL::DESK::TOTTON 18-AUG-1989 3 TASCAM M06 Mixer (or suggestions)
2092 COGVAX::LABAK 21-AUG-1989 8 RAMSA Sound Equipment?
2096 NRPUR::DEATON 23-AUG-1989 19 Micro PA Systems?
2141 HAMER::COCCOLI 18-OCT-1989 32 What Type of PA Gear Do You Use?
2166 TALK::HARRIMAN 15-NOV-1989 3 JLCooper FaderMaster Product Review
2200 SAHQ::GILL 11-DEC-1989 13 Mixer for Tascam TSR8 8Track Deck?
2226 DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID 4-JAN-1990 59 Tascam MIDIstudio 644 & 688
2790 NIOMAX::LAING 16-DEC-1991 0 Mackie Mixers/Products?
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| 2792.3 | why? | TOOK::SUDAMA | Living is easy with eyes closed... | Wed Dec 18 1991 15:34 | 10 |
I'm in a similar duo, and I can't imagine why you would want to lug
around a 12-16 channel mixer. We get by with a 4-channel mixer (2
mikes, 1 audio, 1 channel free that we sometimes use for an extra
acoustic guitar). I could imagine using 6 channels, or maybe even 8 if
I wanted to get real fancy. But I prefer to keep things simple (and
light!). By the way, I use a powered mixer, and I use the mixer to
drive our monitors. I have a separate power amp for the mains. Again,
simple, flexible, and portable.
- Ram
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| 2792.4 | Mr mod move this if you want | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | do it in dubly | Wed Dec 18 1991 22:47 | 10 |
re -1
The reason I need at least 8 (really want 12)is
2 vocal mikes
2 channels for sound module outs
2 for guitar (one miked amp and di'd acoustic)
1 or two for effect return
P.K.
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| 2792.5 | SALSA::MOELLER | Sax and Violins | Thu Dec 19 1991 15:18 | 7 | |
>1 or two (channels) for effect return
A good mixer isn't going to require an entire input channel for each
FX return.. rather, there's generally aux inputs specifically FOR FX
returns which have a simple volume pot, no EQ.
karl
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| 2792.6 | It's da Boss | WOTVAX::KENT | Fri Jan 03 1992 06:43 | 12 | |
We do similar things in terms of DUO and live performance. I use a BOSS
BX16 Mixer which just fits neatly in the top of the Rack and can be
pulled out on to the top ready wired to go. Conversely I am running out
of channels. We like to adjust the mix on line to suit the place we're
playing so we have bass/bass drum/snare/Hihats/all on seperate channels
plus some instruments are in Stereo MKS20/ My Guitar. It doesn't have
the best of EQ's (we have a graphic in the rack) but it is simple quiet
cheap and works.
The other Peekay
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| 2792.7 | Sounds good | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | do it in dubly | Mon Jan 06 1992 18:40 | 6 |
-1
Thanks for your reply. The Boss mixer you use how many pre fader sends
does it have and how many post fader sends ( we call them aux and
effect sends over here) and approx how much US$.
thanks
P.K.
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| 2792.8 | Boss is Boss | WOTVAX::KENT | Tue Feb 04 1992 11:12 | 11 | |
Sorry this took so long to get back !
So little time and so much opportunity.
The Boss just has 2 post fader sends both with with stereo return uk
price is about 350.00 pounds so its probably the same over there in Dollars
PeeKay.
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