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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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1592.0. "Heat/Humidity Causing Equipment Problems" by FGVAXX::LAING (Jim*261-2194*DEC MemorabiliaCollector) Wed Aug 03 1988 03:47

    Is it pure coincidence, or is the heat/humidity (at least in the
    area where I live causing equipment failures?  I've had 3 pieces
    of equipment suffer problems in the last few weeks:
    
    	1) My Macintosh's power supply went bad; $200 for a new one.
    	2) My Alesis microverb is in for repair; it showed repeatable
    		problems, always after warm-up.
    	3) My Simmons SPM 8:2 mixer is giving me trouble, only after
    		it's been turned on for a while.
    
    Has anyone else been noticing more problems with electronics than
    usual?  It gets hot every summer, so maybe that's not it ... but
    3 failures all so quickly has me suspicious...
    
    			-Jim
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1592.1Don't feel paranoidCTHULU::YERAZUNISI'm with the band.Wed Aug 03 1988 17:527
    The heat/humidity makes one of the buttons on my Xpander tend to
    stick in the "down" position. 
    
    It's not just you that They're out to get... :-)
    
    	-Bill
    
1592.2AAARRRG ! cassetteless !!SALSA::MOELLERDECblocks Product SupportWed Aug 03 1988 18:411
    BOTH my Nakamichi decks, the 1000 and the 600, got sick this week.
1592.3And a meteor hit the barn!!DARTS::COTEI'm not making this up...Wed Aug 03 1988 18:474
    Weeeell, you all heard about my MVII probs last week. My car's 
    been running crappy too. And Aja, my cat, urped up a big hairball...
    
    Edd
1592.4BIGALO::BOTTOM_DAVIDbehind blues eyes...Wed Aug 03 1988 18:487
    Hmm my cassette died this week too...it's taken to eating eveyrthing...
    
    time for that dual drive that I wanted for so long...
    
    anybody know any sources of cheap credit?
    
    dbII
1592.5shoulda worn a wig today ...MIZZOU::SHERMANsocialism doesn't work ...Wed Aug 03 1988 19:025
    Hey, remember that VCR problem I had?  ditto ...
    
    But, a good head cleaning helps ...
    
    Steve (ouch, these scabs on my head keep cracking ...)
1592.6Does the S-550 understand MIDI Humidity Change commands?DREGS::BLICKSTEINYo!Wed Aug 03 1988 19:1511
    My guitar neck damn near melted.
    
    I had to turn the truss rod 2 and a half turns (for you non-guitarists
    that's considered pretty radical) just to get the strings off the
    fretboard!
    
    I have since bought a dehumidifier for the room where I keep my stuff.
    
    No, the dehumidifier is not MIDI'd.   ;-)
    
    	db
1592.7Will try a fan...FGVAXX::LAINGJim*261-2194*DEC MemorabiliaCollectorWed Aug 03 1988 19:377
1592.8DFLAT::DICKSONAsk me about network performanceWed Aug 03 1988 19:401
If your Mac does not have a fan, get one for it.
1592.9De-humidifiers lower humidity, but raise the temp!PANGLS::BAILEYWed Aug 03 1988 20:097
    Various components of my stereo died this week too.  (Amp and tape
    deck).
    
    Gotta love this green-house.  Buy property at 250 feet above sea-level
    if you want to get a line on the new ocean front.
    
    Steph
1592.10SALSA::MOELLERDECblocks Product SupportWed Aug 03 1988 20:274
>    < Note 1592.8 by DFLAT::DICKSON "Ask me about network performance" >
>If your Mac does not have a fan, get one for it.

    I've been a MAC fan for years.. 
1592.11Hottest Vt summer in years, apparentlyPAULJ::HARRIMANWhy won't this thing record????Wed Aug 03 1988 21:2111
    
    My studio has air conditioning, so most everything there is working.
    
    Of course, the piano in my non-air-conditioned living room is not
    liking this at all.
    
    I played a large gig on Saturday (14,000 people). It was 95 on stage,
    about 115 out in the sun. My Mono/Poly wouldn't keep it's tuning.
    Other than that, surprisingly, everything else worked fine.
    
    /pjh
1592.12Give 'em a taste of the BigTime!MIDEVL::YERAZUNISI'm with the band.Wed Aug 03 1988 22:244
    14,000?  Where and what?  (care to report?)
    	
    	-Bill
    
1592.13My S-550 suffers along with the rest of usDREGS::BLICKSTEINYo!Thu Aug 04 1988 11:3714
    Well, before yesterday, I only had problems with my guitar.
    
    Last night, I was demo-ing my (brand new) S-550 to Chad Leigh.   I was
    demonstrating making a sample and all of a sudden the thing would not
    play back what I had just sampled.
    
    I turned the unit off and on again, and THEN it wouldn't boot!
    
    Eventually, I got everything to work so I'm hoping it was just a glitch
    caused by the weather.
    
    I'm hoping my dehumidifier arrives soon.
    
    	db
1592.14MTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVIDbehind blues eyes...Thu Aug 04 1988 12:366
    My C64 died, my musicman died, I have two cassette decks down, my
    dryer is acting up and all my strings rusted in less than a week...
    
    sigh...
    
    dbII
1592.15The Vt. Reggae FestivalPAULJ::HARRIMANYeah?Thu Aug 04 1988 12:5483
    
    re: .-2
    
      The 3rd Annual Vermont Reggae Festival. Quite a time. 
    
      Sure, I'll report. This was the second year in a row I played
    in it. This particular band I play in (one of three at this point)
    plays reggae, with the following personnel/equipment:
    
    1) Drums by Al Lesis (the HR-16)
    2) Bass by Mr. MidiBass
    3) Boring backbeat piano, brass hits, occasional organ holds by
       whatever I'm not playing
    4) Keys by moi, also backup vocals
    5) Guitar by my partner
    6) vocals/electric violin
    
    This is the fourth sequenced gig I have done with this band. Also,
    by far, the smoothest gig I have played using sequenced material,
    or in any case the smoothest gig I have played with this much
    equipment. I took four keyboards, my rack (4' tall, and full), the
    Atari, and that was about it.
    
    The Vermont Reggae Festival was held in OakLedge Park in Burlington
    VT. Last year it drew about 8000 over the course of the day, and
    8 bands played. This year we had 10 bands, four of which were local
    bands. This year's bands which were very well received were Bop
    Harley (from East Lansing MI), a band from Florida called Winston
    Thurman (which, incidentally, was almost ENTIRELY sequenced/MIDI),
    and Ini Kimoze from Jamaica. We expected over 10000 this year, but
    we hit that figure about 1:00 in the afternoon. The gig ran from
    10:00 am to 10:00 pm. I don't think I can say enough good things
    about the stage manager. I originally felt like it was going to
    be tough; we had 50 minutes each to get on stage/play/get off stage.
    But with a stage crew of 7, it turned out to be no problem! 
    
    The worst thing that happened was that half the sound system got
    fried about 9:15 am. I'm not sure how it happened but a whole rack
    full of active crossovers started spewing smoke out the cracks in
    the rack. Definitely sound-persons nightmare. They rewired and got
    up by 10:15. The stage sound was excellent, at least as good as
    any I have ever been in.
    
    My band (High Society) was third, so we were on at about 12:00.
    From 8:30 to 10:30 I spent my time pre-cabling whatever I could;
    for instance, I taped my power strips to my keyboard racks and
    pre-plugged all the electrical lines. All the MIDI was labeled and
    each pair was coiled (actually "bunched") so that it wouldn't kink
    when we went for it on stage. All audio lines that weren't preconnected
    within the rack were also labeled and bunched. We were on stage
    at 11:55 and were playing by 12:00. Our first tune was our sound
    check. With reggae that's pretty easy to do, you just play a dub
    tune and go through every piece of equipment...! We got 'em dancing
    though, there's definitely a feeling when you have over 500 people
    jumping up and down in front of you, and you look out and all you
    can see are people behind them. We were well received. Our set was
    set up to minimize downtime between songs; the EPS takes about a
    minute to reload samples so I have spent lots of time trying to
    standardize channels/voices. It pays to plan. Our longest wait was
    about 40 seconds because of a glitch in the Atari. (You have to
    load the environment separately from the songs/sequences). 
    
    We were off stage within three minutes of our last song. 
    
    As I said earlier, it was 95 on stage. The sun was bright, hot,
    and there wasn't a cloud in the sky. It pays to be in the band;
    I was one of the few who got to bring a car into the park (Parking
    was prohibited within a half-mile of the event), and I got a spot
    in the shade, and a backstage pass (free beer/fruit/water/etc for
    bands). 
    
    For the record, out of 14000 people who came, there were no riots,
    only three serious injuries (Oak Ledge Park is on Lake Champlain;
    people do foolish things like jumping from rocks into the lake,
    occasionally some bonehead cracks his/her bone head open). Oh, and
    one birth. These reggae events are quite mellow. Kind of like a
    Grateful Dead concert, only the music is different. 
    
    Like I said, it was very successful. I was glad to participate in
    it. We even got paid, too, and it made the rent on the studio for
    another month. Yee-haw.
    
    /pjh
1592.16How come you didn't tell us?? 14,012....JAWS::COTEI'm not making this up...Thu Aug 04 1988 13:013
    Good stuff, congrats!
    
    Edd
1592.17Ergotamine, Oxytocin, Reggae...CTHULU::YERAZUNISWhy are so few of us left healthy, active, and without personaliThu Aug 04 1988 13:5214
    
    Sounds like a load of fun.  Too bad it was so far away...
    
    I guess after that, you can add to your liner notes:
    
    	Use by pregnant women: Use of this music by pregnant women
    	may induce contractions.  Use only under the close supervision
    	of a physician.
    
    
    		:-)
    
    -Bill
    
1592.18Lots of humidity kills h.v.NAC::CLOUTIERGood is the enemy of Better..Thu Aug 04 1988 14:007
    Yup!  Lost a 10000 (ten-thousand) volt power supply in a
    radio transmitter last week.  Power transmitter shorted
    to ground!  Argh!.  Too much water in the air.
    
    		Regards,
    			Steve Cloutier
    
1592.19JAH LIVE!!!...in Vermont?NCVAX1::ALLENThu Aug 04 1988 14:2321
    re .15
    	Are there other REGGAE lovers out there?  Sounds like one I
    should have gone to, Paul.  I didn't even know Vermont had a Reggae
    Festival.  
    
    	Do other noters have an interest in Jah music?  I only have
    the COMMUSIC III tape and don't remember any on there.  I'd be inter-
    ested in any pointers you might have on developing credible lines
    and ideas for sequencing.  (Maybe we could even start a note).
    
    re Base Note
     	Some folks reading over my shoulder are trying to figure out
    what all the fuss about heat out there is about.  "Don't they have
    air conditioning?", they ask contemptously.  You know how non-musi-
    cians can be.
    
    Peace and Love and Coolth,
    Bill Allen
    
    PS You have to realize, we are in the middle of a drought, here in 
       the Twin Cities.
1592.20Simmer in me own juices, wot?DYO780::SCHAFERBrad ... DTN 433-2408Thu Aug 04 1988 15:078
1592.21Klosta-man vibrationsDREGS::BLICKSTEINYo!Thu Aug 04 1988 15:1112
    There was a submission on Commusic II (or maybe I) that was clearly
    influenced by reggae.
    
    It was by Jamaican Vacation which included Stevie Klosterman on bass,
    and Bill Buckley was the recording engineer (he now plays guitar with
    the band, which is and on-and-off-again thing).   They played at the
    recent DEC Springjam.
    
    I seem to recall that they are playing (or have just played) a gig
    at "Chet's Diner", a popular DEC-band venue.
    
    	db
1592.22now we gotta worry about polluted electricity, tooNEWFUN::GEORGEThu Aug 04 1988 16:5514
   The rash of equipment problems could be caused by power-line hash.

   WBUR (a Boston NPR station) this morning interviewed someone
   from the electric company.  Demand peaks have been more than capacity
   for the past several days.  They've already had to reduce voltage 5%
   (a deliberate brownout), and expect they'll need a few selective
   blackouts to muddle through today and tomorrow.

   Consumer electronics, especially digital stuff, can be very sensitive
   to farkles on the AC line.

   Get some surge-protected power strips or "Good luck",
   Dave
1592.23Can't invite you 'til I meet youPAULJ::HARRIMANYeah?Thu Aug 04 1988 17:2326
    
    re: .16 to .19/20
    
      Well, I would have said something but I haven't had much luck
    getting people up to Vermont lately. There's always next year. We're
    not sure if they're going to let us have one next year but if we
    do I'll advertise it better.
    
      Thanks Edd/Bill/Bill/etc. I have made it a point to try to at
    least understand as many types of music as I could. Reggae is fun,
    to a point. I'm glad this project is done for now, since I can get
    back to production of other (aka MY) stuff. It's interesting learning
    how to get this little studio (studilette?) moved around and back
    in the same number of pieces. I like the influence.
    
      re: .22
    
      Article in Vermont said we're not having brownouts at least. There's
    only 100,000 people in this county and this is the biggest one;
    we get our power from the nuke (Vt Yankee) and Hydro Quebec. In
    fact, we're selling power to the rest of the NE grid. We're set
    until 1997 at least which is when they say Yankee gets shut off.
    
      I'm really glad I rent an air-conditioned space.
    
    /pjh
1592.24Kloster-monMARKER::BUCKLEYI HATE Reagan's GUTS, PERIOD!Thu Aug 04 1988 20:066
    
    Reggae lover here.
    
    There may be a reggae submit on COMMUSIC VI (maybe) from JV.
    
    
1592.25Maybe two...NCVAX1::ALLENThu Aug 04 1988 20:575
    When do CM-VI submissions have to be in?  If I get up the courage,
    this might be a good place to to debut.
    
    Bill A.
    
1592.26Crescent City Rasta!FGVAXZ::MASHIACrescent City KidThu Aug 04 1988 21:057
    FWIW, at least one of my two planned submissions for COMMUSIC-whatever
    (at about 5 hours/week, it takes a while) will be reggae.  The other
    will be a Newagetechnofunk gospel tune.
     
    Can't wait for the reviews. :-)
    
    Rodney M.
1592.27Keep em dryTYFYS::MOLLERTAICS / You Are Number 6Thu Aug 04 1988 22:1917
    Interestingly enough, In Colorado Springs, its very dry & humidity
    is rarely a problem, however, I recently was able to find a cold solder
    joint in my Porta-Studio when the humidity was up. When ever it got
    humid (the thunderstorm is usually a mile or less above the house &
    quite active & loud), I would lose channel 3 (input C) on the tape
    deck. Banging on the Portastudio would often bring it back, but not
    always. One it dried up (like the next morning), all was well again.

    So, during our last big storm I ripped the whole thing apart (these
    have 3 circuit boards that unfold like a flip out page in a magazine),
    and went thru the channel 3 section - it's marked on the various
    boards. I found the bad joint & now the problem is gone. Fun stuff.

    Oxidation in hardware is a big problem, often caused by humidity.
    (what, your DX7 doesn't work under water??)

							Jens
1592.2872 and 30% relative humidity. Honest. It's not my fault.SRFSUP::MORRISmaybe we'll leave come springtime...Fri Aug 05 1988 01:031
    
1592.29Sampler goes wild, neighborhood evacuatedDREGS::BLICKSTEINYo!Tue Aug 09 1988 12:2936
    Well I had a big scare on Sunday.
    
    I had spent about 4 hours editing samples for something I hope to
    submit to the Commusic tapes.  I went upstairs for a little while
    and left everything on as I hadn't yet saved the samples to disk.
    
    All of a sudden, there comes this tremendous howling from downstairs.
    I jump two flights of stairs in seconds flat and madly dash towards
    the equipment.
    
    The lights on my mixer are all lit up, all the meters pegged in the
    red, so I just start cutting the power on everything.
    
    Yes, I lost all that sampling editing I had done.  In fact, I even
    lost the samples themselves.
    
    I had thought that perhaps I had left the microphone on and that I
    was getting feedback (sampler -> mixer -> amp -> sound -> microphone
    -> sampler), but I noticed that I had switch the mic off and wasn't
    even in the sampling menu (where this could occur).
    
    As far as I can tell, some humidity formed on the sampler and caused
    it to start feeding voltage to the outputs.
    
    It was an intense combination of amazement and relief when I discoverd
    later that (apparently) nothing had been damaged.   Especially amazing
    because I had previously blown channels in the mixer just by turning
    off the ESQ-1 before the mixer (the ESQ-1 sometimes sends a loud spike
    when you power it off).
    
    Anyway, I'll sure feel a lot better when that dehumidifier arrives.
    
    I'm gonna take the S-550 back for an exchange if it glitches even just
    one more time before next Monday (my next trip to Daddy's).
    
    	db
1592.30Yes, I know... I deserved it...DREGS::BLICKSTEINYo!Tue Aug 09 1988 12:318
    Oh yeah,
    
    Please!  No lectures on the value of periodic saving to disk.
    
    It's just that when you're having fun, you sometimes get carried
    away and forget the normal routine y'know?
    
    	db