Title: | Psychic Phenomena |
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From: clarinews@clarinet.com Newsgroups: clari.news.interest.people,clari.news.religion,clari.news.interest,clari.news.interest.quirks Subject: Miracles reported at Virginia church Keywords: people, human interest, organized religion, religion, mysteries of the universe, quirks Message-ID: <miraclesU2M9840ae@clarinet.com> Date: 9 Mar 92 13:28:31 GMT ACategory: usa Slugword: miracles Priority: regular Format: regular ANPA: Wc: 357; Id: z2733; Sel: xxnhp; Adate: 3-9-840aes Codes: ynhprxx., ynrorxx., ynhmrxx., ynhorxx. LAKE RIDGE, Va. (UPI) -- An associate pastor at a Catholic church bears stigmata, the marks of Christ on the cross, and statues in the sanctuary weep in his presence, the pastor and congregation members told The Washington Post. ``It seems to be a physical phenomenon assciated with Father (James) Bruse,'' said the Rev. Daniel Hamilton, the pastor at St. Elizabeth Ann Seton Church. Stigmata, marks on the wrists, feet and side where Christ was nailed to the cross, have been attributed to Catholic mystics such as St. Francis of Assisi. Bruse, who showed reporters pink marks on his wrists and the back of his hands after Sunday services, told the Post, ``When it first started, I thought it was some kind of skin disease.'' When asked about a possible hoax, Bruse told the paper: ``I would be just as cynical. I would be questioning this.'' Hamilton called himself ``the ultimate cynic'' on such matters. He said on New Year's Eve, when Bruse approached him about weeping statues, he noticed the marks, and that he later went to Bruse's room in the rectory. ``I looked at his statue of St. Elizabeth Ann Seton and the statue was crying blood,'' Hamilton said. ``I backed out of his room.'' Hamilton said when he returned to his own room, a statue Bruse had given him was crying as well. The Diocesan Chancery in Arlington issued a statement that in all such instances, ``the church recommends great caution in forming judgments and advises against any speculation on the causes or possible significance of the reported events.'' Bruse said the marks, also on his feet and right side, last bled about 10 days ago but added the pain still exists. ``I think it's a phenomenon,'' he told the paper. ``I feel like it's from Christ.'' One congregation member, Tom Saunders, said he has seen supernatural events in Bruse's presence on three occasions. Once he was holding a statue in Bruse's presence and ``it started crying. I was amazed, incredible. ... When you are holding something in your hand and actually feel (the water) ... it's hard to say I don't believe it.''
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1639.1 | Ah, yes, the stigma of stigmata... | MISERY::WARD_FR | Making life a mystical adventure | Thu Mar 12 1992 16:54 | 7 |
re: .0 (Topher) Sounds like Bruse's bruises to me. ;-) Frederick | |||||
1639.2 | But Wait! There's More! ... | CADSYS::COOPER | Topher Cooper | Fri Mar 20 1992 19:18 | 58 |
From: clarinews@clarinet.com Newsgroups: clari.news.interest.people,clari.news.interest.quirks,clari.news.religion,clari.news.interest Subject: Statue at second church sheds tears Keywords: people, human interest, quirks, organized religion, religion, mysteries of the universe Message-ID: <miraclesU2MI915ae@clarinet.com> Date: 18 Mar 92 14:07:44 GMT WOODBRIDGE, Va. (UPI) -- A Roman Catholic church's carved wooden statue of the Virgin Mary reportedly dripped water when a priest celebrated mass, making it the second site where the cleric has been associated with the mysterious phenomenon of ``weeping'' statues. Water appeared on the statue in the lobby of Our Lady of Angels Catholic Church when the Rev. James C. Bruse celebrated Mass Tuesday for children from a Catholic school, according to parents and children who said they were witnesses. Bruse, who also has shown signs of stigmata, or marks that mirror the wounds Jesus Christ suffered in his crucifixion, had earlier been associated with reports of weeping statues at another church in Prince William County, St. Elizabeth Ann Seton. The latest occurrence took place at the regular Tuesday morning Mass for 450 students of Aquinas School, a Catholic school for youths in kindergarten through eighth grade. Sister Mary Evelyn, the principal of Aquinas, sent a note home with every child that read in part, ``After Mass, the adults present as well as the children saw the statue cry. As with most children, imaginations are alive and well here at Aquinas. Please listen with love and concern. May we all grow in faith and love and become more aware of Christ's presence in our daily lives as He manifests Himself to us in so many ways.'' Bruse was taking his regular turn at saying mass for the Aquinas children, according to the Rev. Paul Burns, pastor of Our Lady of Angels. All the children filed past the statue, which those present said was wet on the face, chest and base, and said ``Hail Mary'' prayers. ``I saw the tears from the chest and I saw the tears on her face,'' said Nicole King, 11. ``It was kind of wierd. Some of my friends were kind of crying. We talked about it all day and everybody was talking and not listening (in class).'' Jennifer Velesz, a Woodbridge mother with two children at Aquinas, said she was coming through the church lobby for communion when she noticed the water on the statue. ``I was in absolute awe that this was happening right in front of me, '' she said. The phenomenon has never occurred before, said Burns, who leads the 1,800-family parish. ``It's so unexplainable and most of us are quite skeptical about thsese things. This has us quite befuddled in a nice kind of way.'' Bruse has become a minor celebrity since reports of the phenomena broke last week but after showing the marks on his wrists after a Sunday service, he has since declined interview requests. The last time he spoke to reporters he conceded that if it had happened to anyone else but him, he'd be skeptical, too. Services at St. Elizabeth Ann Seton have also become jammed since reports arose. Last Sunday, hundreds of worshippers had to be turned away. Midweek morning services, that usually draw 20 or so people, have been drawing 400 people. | |||||
1639.3 | HOO78C::ANDERSON | Zeker is dat niets zeker is. | Tue Mar 24 1992 05:36 | 6 | |
Re .0 Did anyone cross match the blood that came from the statues to find out what group it was? Jamie. | |||||
1639.4 | Interesting thought | ESMAIL::ESOMS | Trusting in the Universe | Tue Mar 24 1992 22:29 | 8 |
re. -1 Jamie, Really liked that thought. Have they done that with any other incidents of this sort? Joanne | |||||
1639.6 | not being funny | POCUS::FERGUSON | Working in the rumor mill | Tue May 12 1992 02:54 | 5 |
What's the significance of "100% pure olive oil"? Ginny | |||||
1639.7 | just my type. | HELIX::KALLIS | Pumpkins ... Nature's greatest gift. | Tue May 19 1992 17:55 | 8 |
Re .3 (Jamie): >Did anyone cross match the blood that came from the statues to find out >what group it was? Miraculous group. :-) Steve Kallis, Jr. | |||||
1639.8 | HOO78C::ANDERSON | An awfully great adventure! | Fri May 22 1992 14:45 | 3 | |
No I was thinking of the "red vegetable dye and water" group. Jamie. | |||||
1639.9 | CSC32::GORTMAKER | Whatsa Gort? | Sat May 23 1992 00:10 | 7 | |
re.6 >> What's the significance of "100% pure olive oil"? Extra Virgin? -j | |||||
1639.10 | BTOVT::BEST_G | not | Wed Jun 17 1992 19:08 | 6 | |
Anyone know what Christ's blood type was? ;-) guy | |||||
1639.11 | FORTY2::CADWALLADER | Reaping time has come... | Thu Jun 18 1992 11:55 | 6 | |
1639.12 | MCIS2::COLLETON | THE THIEF OF BADGAGS | Thu Jun 18 1992 12:50 | 5 | |
>> anyone know what type Christ's blood type was? I would guess o'ly :^) Bill- | |||||
1639.13 | Vintage stuff | WELLIN::NISBET | Let me see that Hymn sheet ... | Thu Jun 18 1992 12:53 | 12 |
1639.15 | you folks are cracking me up! | BTOVT::BEST_G | not | Thu Jun 18 1992 20:02 | 5 |
I can see the humor has improved in this notesfile....I take that as a really good sign. ;-) guy | |||||
1639.16 | KERNEL::BELL | Hear the softly spoken magic spell | Fri Jun 19 1992 08:15 | 2 | |
Well it makes a change from sexing oysters ... :-) |