Conference 7.286::sports_90

    DID I miss something, what does LDUC mean?
    
    jd

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    LDUC is a kinder, gentler abbreviation for pi**ing contest.  LDUC
    = Long Distance Urination Contest.
    
    HTH,
    
    jh

    JD, I axed the same thing lasted week, then realized that this was
    covered some time ago under the KG terminology note......
    
    
    	LDUC = Long Distance Urinating Contest
    
    HTH.
    
    Hawk

    Tanks.

James Worthy is an All-star NBA player who will one day end up in the
Hall of Fame.  He is an above average talent playing for a great team.
He has developed a passable outside shot to go along with his superior
postup and fast break offense.   He always hustles on defense.  He can
go to the offensive boards well.   

I meant everything I said.   My criticism of James Worthy is on
specific points of his game that tend to catch my eye.  

He hustles all the time on defense, but that doesn't make him a
great defender.  I still think he leaves his feet too much and can
be faked out.  He is lucky to have a great team defense behind
him and great athletic skills to cover for the mistakes.

He does not rebound well off the defensive board.  He is not your
classic "box out" rebounder.   He's a leaper. The fact that the Lakers 
have a number of other rebounders and a fast break offense has eliminated
the need for him to even try to display that skill.

If he has to think about what he's doing, he tends to make more
mistakes... especially handling the ball.   He's more of an instintive,
flowing, streak player.

He has been blessed with playing for the best team of the 80's with
a great deal of talent around him.   That always makes it easier to
hide negative aspects of his game.  We'll never know if he could have
been a Superstar.   Just like Bird made McHale, Magic made Worthy.

I wish that, just once, he looked like he enjoyed playing the game.

    > He has been blessed with playing with the best team of the 80's
    
    Why, thank you Doug.  I wholeheartedly agree that, taken in sum,
    Carolina did have the finest team of the decade!
    
    I don't think it's fair to critize Jimbo for not looking like he's
    enjoying the game.  He's a serious kinda guy.  Always has been.
    
    BTW - Anybody seen Worthy in that Budweiser commerical yet?  That
          *look* he gives at the end of the commerical is truly scary.
          Kinda guy who, if he was your daddy, would put the fear of
          God in ya!
    
    

    
    Good objective view points Doug, of course Dan won't be able to buy
    them.....
    
    Chris, I guess I'll take myself out of the running with this one but
    when won considers the best teams of the 80's in college b-ball names
    like Louisville, Indiana, Run D&NC Gougetown (tm) and Duke come to
    mind first. These teams followed up a fine regular season performances
    with fine NCAA showings. If not for one errant pass and some
    questionable goaltending calls Smith would still be an 0-fer....
    
    mike

    I agree Doug.  Specially the point comparing McHale and Worthy.
    I remember when the Knicks tried to sign McHale.  I always felt
    he wouldn't have benn an all-star with the KNicks, since he wouldn't
    have Larry next to him....
    
    JD

    Hey, don't argue with me Mike.  I was just agreein' with the guy who
    you just called "Good" and "objective"!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    

    I think I owe Doug the courtesy of a comment.  I agree with most of
    what he says with two caveats: I have seen him go strong to the
    defensive board when necessary, which is why I always contend that its
    the game plan that makes him keep his distance.  It's true that I don't
    see him box out as I'd like.  Also, I think he's a better open court
    defender that he's being given credit for.  His leaving his feet is
    usually done in the context of the half-court trap when the Lakers are
    quickly rotating.  You want him to leave his feet there.  He's never
    asked to defend the low post.  "Good defender" sums it up nicely.
    
    I also think you could touch up the compliments.  There's probably no
    small forward in the league with a better postup game and maybe no
    player in history is better filling the lane on the break.
    
    He's an excellent complement to Magic.  But he wouldn't be lost without
    him.
    
    Dan

    
    Sarge, I got to diagree with ya and defend the green and all that kind
    of stuff the Jihad is famous for. McHale would have been an all-star
    for the Knicks as well. His post up moves, his fallaways and turnaround
    jumpers would all still have been there. All he would have need was
    someone to get him the ball and the Knicks have usually had capable
    guards. His defense wouyld have also been there and he was all nba
    defensive player for a couple of years before the surgery......
    
    James too would have been an all-star on anothe team say Atlanta or
    Denver where ballot stuffing is condoned and incouraged.... ;^)
    
    mike

    James Worthy is an above average forward who should get down on his
    knees every evening and thank GOD he was fortunate enough to play
    on the same team as Magic Johnson.  We is a below average rebounder,
    an average defender, an average shooter from the outside.  Worthy's
    greatest skill is running the open floor.  He finishes off the break
    extremely well.
    
    When Worthy came out in the draft, he was one of three top forwards:
    the other two werre Terry Cummings and Dominique Wilkins.  Switch
    teams with either of those two, and the Lakers would still have at
    least five championships, and the Hawks, Bucks, Clippers, and Spurs
    would still have none.
    
    NAZZ

    
    	Worthy's stats for Tues. night vs. Knicks:
    
    	31 minutes played, 9-12 fg, 0-0 ft, 8 rebs (6 def), 2 assists,
    	0 pf, 18 tp..
    
    	not too shabby.
    
    sean

    	JD, McHale would've been an All-Star with the Knicks because
    of the New York press.
    
    				/Don

    
    If the Lakers had Terry Cummings or Dominique Wilkins instead of
    Worthy ........ c'mon NAZZ ..... Wilkins is the most selfish player in
    the NBA ...... he doesn't fit in with the Lakers style and he thinks
    defense goes around deyard.  Cummings plays a stronger inside game than
    Worthy, but doesn't run the floor half as well and isn't nearly as
    quick .... aka he wouldn't help with the Lakers pressure D.
    
    IMO James Worthy is a great player who will never get the recognition
    he could because he (1) plays with Magic  (2) plays on a team where
    individual stats are second to winning.
    
    Greg

    I'd take Worthy AND McHale over Johnson AND Bird in a second.
    
    I'd take the talented, underrated workhorses over the talented,
    overrated media-types anyday.......
    
    Hawk

    Hawk, do it, and I'll take your money every time!!  :*)
    
    Lee

    
    But Greg, I feel and I believe most would agree that 'Nigue would have
    changed his style to fit into the Lakers game plan. Everyone else has.
    look at Woolridge a perfect example of a guy who only knew one thing
    shooting the ball. Now he plays defense, pass the ball and runs the
    court. This is the greatness of Magic. The others see him sacrifice
    indivdually for the team and follow suit......
    
    Yes Dan-0 before I forget Riles deserves credit too....
    
    mike

      I think Worthy is, if not, the best at his position.  Magic is
    overrated and plays dirty when he gets burned..
    
      I want to see this magic vs Jordan matchup.  Jordan will eat his
    lunch
    
    	Tim

    Worthy a.k.a. Jimmy Clang, is among the top 10 in shooting percentage
    for ALL TIME, FWIW.
    				Rich
    

rich,,,

the apostrophe police (tm) are going to be all over you for that personel name..

Metz

BTW- it's not tough to be in the top 10 in shooting percentage of all time if 
the shot you take 90% of the time is a stuff off of the fast break...

 

    
    If you can't stop the guy from going in for dunks why should he pull up
    for a 15-20 foot jumper?

    
    if the refs wanted they could stop him better than 50% of the time...
    
    he sure learned how to use his left from Kareem well  ;^)
    
    mike

    what is "LDUC"
    
    

    Long Distance Urination Contest

Happy Birthday James!!!  He turns 29 today......

Monty

    And I get to see Sir James tomorrow night in person when the Lakers
    come in to play the Sonics.  Could be ugly with the X-Man out....
    
    JD

Re. .33 --

A detailed eyewitness report of the game would be greatly appreciated by us
right-coasted Laker fans.  Hope Divac is back.  The Yugo IS the show.

Laker_Ken

>  right-coasted Laker fans.  Hope Divac is back.  The Yugo IS the show.
    
    But Ken, you don't live in the West!  Better hope that Divac doesn't
    have a MTBF like the other Yugos.

OK, Mike.  What's an MTBF that other Yugos have?

    re .36:
    
    Ken- I think Mike's referring to Yugo (the Car), which has a low Mean
    Time Between Failure (MTBF).  i.e., Lets hope Divac does'nt get hurt
    too often.
    
    HTH
    Sameer

    Right you are Sameer!  

    Mean time between failure?!  Hey, ease up on the techno-talk, eh guys.
    ;)
    
    Incidentally, Vlade drives a Porsche.  
    
    Laker_Ken

       DO they have him eatin Tofu and Sushi out there yet?
                                          Denny

    Last I heard, he was taking speech lessons from that Valley guy in the
    new McDonald's commercial (you know the one with "how to improve the
    Big Mac").
    
    HA Avocado dip with Blue tortilla chips doode!
    
    Mike

    >If you can't stop the guy from going in for dunks why should he pull up
    >for a 15-20 foot jumper?

When I was at the Forum last Friday night for the game against Philly, I
called James over, up to my seat, and asked him if he might just do this
for the nut cases in the Sports conference.  He looked at me kind of
funny, so I 'splained to him what the sports conference are and explained
that there's a couple of guys who just don't get it, that a player should try to
work for the best shot possible, and if he would prove to them for me that
he can drain it from the outside, please.  Well Jimmy responded (he
was very impressed with me and asked me to eschew the more formal
'James') "Why don't you just tell them" (in that magnificent tenor voice of
his) "to review the tapes of Tuesday's game where I hit 4 clutch jumpers in
the last two minutes of the game, including a 3-pointer?"  Well, he made 
an excellent point, that the perception of the dingbats (Micheal Thompson's
word, he got interested and listened in) in Sports is all wrong, and Jimmy's
jumper has improved tremendously with all the hard work he's put in since
he broke his leg during his rookie year.

The game was about to start, so I let them go, but I thought you guys should
know that Jimmy (James to you) is aware of the issue now.

Dan

    Wow Dan,
    
    Like I'll say hi to James for you, fer sure, during the game tonight.
    
    JD

>    Like I'll say hi to James for you, fer sure, during the game tonight.

While you're at it, I lent Magic a few of my on-court moves.  Could 
you be sure to get those back for me?

Dan

>While you're at it, I lent Magic a few of my on-court moves.  Could 
>you be sure to get those back for me?
    
    Why do you need to whine to somebody about something?