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Title:Sports 93-96 Archive. No new notes allowed
Notice:Chainsaw's last standSPORTS_97
Moderator:HBAHBA::HAAS
Created:Mon Jan 11 1993
Last Modified:Tue Apr 15 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:302
Total number of notes:117855

111.0. "Uniforms: Love 'em or trash 'em" by NWD002::TUTAK_PE (I was a teenage Water Dropo) Sun May 02 1993 18:56

    
    This is the official uniforms note. Feel free to scribble your
    heartfelt opinions about what you feel concerning the colors, styles,
    trends, etc. of unis in general.
    
    I'll start it off, and because I stick to baseball, I'll keep it there
    (although you can write about 43-man squamish, if you wish)...
    
    Sublime:	NY (AL)
    		Boston
    		Detroit (home)
    		Florida (vest)		
    
    Yougly:	NY (NL) (there should be a law outlawing orange in a
    			uniform)
    		
    Most improved: Seattle 
    
    Kat
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111.1ROYALT::ASHEOwner 92-93 DEChoop & FBA champsMon May 03 1993 03:512
    No one over 40 should be in a  teal pinstripe baseball uniform.
    
111.2UGLY!XCUSME::CSSI06::McNeilWastin away againMon May 03 1993 12:253
	I'm a huge REDs fan...but come on, those vested Uniforms
	have got to go!!
111.3ROYALT::ASHEOwner 92-93 DEChoop & FBA champsMon May 03 1993 13:403
    I like them, but they don't belong on a team that plays on artificial
    turf...
    
111.4CAM3::WAYAre you Master of your domain?Mon May 03 1993 13:4320
>    I like them, but they don't belong on a team that plays on artificial
>    turf...


Yeah, the vested look is back.  All of my old baseball cards have
the Reds in the vested look.

I really don't like the Marlin's colors.  It might be that it just shows
up bad on TV, but it doesn't look cool to me.


I like the Red Sox unis, the Yankees unis, Detroit's unis.  They are more
like traditional unis, I think.

(Although what's with the horizontal stripes on top of the BoSox
leggings this season?)


'Saw    

111.5BSS::JCOTANCHMon May 03 1993 13:5511
    I think the Reds' vested uniforms are terrible looking.
    
    I'm probably one of the few who likes the Marlins' teal.  I
    don't hear any complaints about the Dolphins', Hornets', or Sharks'
    uniforms.  Their road uniforms are really sharp IMO.
    
    I don't like how so many teams have gone to pinstripes - it's like
    every team is suddenly trying to be traditional.
    
    
    Joe 
111.7CAM3::WAYAre you Master of your domain?Mon May 03 1993 14:066
The Marlines should be wearing a more traditional uni for the area:

	white shoes, yellow or green pans, and a white belt.


'Saw
111.9CAMONE::WAYAre you Master of your domain?Mon May 03 1993 14:194
>    'Saw, don't forget the navy or black sox.


Right!
111.10"Tradition" is back...TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is crawling!!!Mon May 03 1993 14:2320
re: Marlins

Teal is a wicked hot colo(u)r right now (a la Sharks, Hornets, etc), and Fla
was lookign to hop aboard that bandwagon.

re: Reds

I cain't quite put my finger on it, but these new unis are slightly different 
from the ones they had int the sixties.  My Pete Rose rookie card has him in 
one of those unis.

Now is the Indians and Pirates go back to the vests too...

re: rest

It's cool that the Cards went back to the black hats on the road.
I'm bummed that the Padres went to blue.  the original brown was ugly, but 
it was a traditional color of the real "Padres" at the missions in Cal.

=Bob=
111.11BSS::JCOTANCHMon May 03 1993 14:3816
> It's cool that the Cards went back to the black hats on the road.

    Those hats do look good - but aren't they actually dark blue?
    
> I'm bummed that the Padres went to blue.  the original brown was ugly, but 
> it was a traditional color of the real "Padres" at the missions in Cal.

    I don't like the new SD uniforms either.  I didn't think the brown and
    yellow was all that bad.  
    
    I like the fact that some teams like the Yanks, Red Sox, and Dodgers
    haven't changed their uniforms much (if at all) over the years.
    
    
    Joe
111.12TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is crawling!!!Mon May 03 1993 14:4413
111.13PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollMon May 03 1993 14:501
    I liked the old Mariners' and Angels' caps better.
111.14Road Red Sox *used to be* the Penn State of baseballNAC::G_WAUGAMANMon May 03 1993 14:5814
    I still wish the Red Sox hadn't traded in their *really* old-looking
    grey road uniforms with simple blue "B-O-S-T-O-N" block lettering for
    the ones with the red script lettering, red piping, and-- ugh-- names 
    on the back.  No one could touch those original road uniforms for the 
    purely archaic look.  Those were my favorite.  The new road uniforms 
    are now a bastardized version of the still-classic home uniforms.
    
    The teal helmets the Marlins use at home are the worst.  That, more than
    the uniform makes them look like a high school team, or even worse,
    like the UNC Tarheels.  Strictly amateur...
    
    glenn
    
111.15CAMONE::WAYAre you Master of your domain?Mon May 03 1993 15:0622
>    I still wish the Red Sox hadn't traded in their *really* old-looking
>    grey road uniforms with simple blue "B-O-S-T-O-N" block lettering for
>    the ones with the red script lettering, red piping, and-- ugh-- names 
>    on the back.  No one could touch those original road uniforms for the 
>    purely archaic look.  Those were my favorite.  The new road uniforms 
>    are now a bastardized version of the still-classic home uniforms.
>    


I hadn't noticed this, but I did only catch one of the away games last
week.

This saddens me.   Watching them in those uniforms made me think of the
old days of baseball.   All they needed to be was wool and you were
back in the 1930s.....

If the Red Sox ever go to names on the back of a home uni, I think I'll
take over the 600 Club with an assault rifle, and hold Fenway Park hostage!


'Saw    

111.16IndiansSTRATA::WHITEHAIRMark Price = 3 pt ace!Mon May 03 1993 15:245
    
    	Have to say I like the Indians....that darn big smilling indian.
    Have to wonder what he is smilling about... ;-)
    
    	WaHooo
111.17PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollMon May 03 1993 15:457
111.18CAMONE::WAYAre you Master of your domain?Mon May 03 1993 15:5612
111.19AXIS::ROBICHAUDMon May 03 1993 15:585
    	I read where in Florida even the trashcan liners at the ballpark
    are teal.  Glad to see they finally found a practical use for that
    color.
    
    				/Don
111.20DECWET::METZGERImagine your logo here.Mon May 03 1993 16:4911
But I bet the marlins are probably one of the top 5 team in merchandise sales.
remember it's the $$$ that talk. They'd dress the players in silver spandex 
stretch pants if they thought it would get them a single extra $ in merchandise
sales....

Is tampa close enough to Kennedy space center to get away with silver space
siuts on the players?.hmmmmmm


Metz
111.21NAC::G_WAUGAMANMon May 03 1993 17:0016
    
> I hadn't noticed this, but I did only catch one of the away games last
> week.
    
    Actually, they've had the new(er) road uniforms for a few years now.
    Not that they've been worth tuning in on the road the past couple...
    
> This saddens me.   Watching them in those uniforms made me think of the
> old days of baseball.   All they needed to be was wool and you were
> back in the 1930s.....
    
    Yes, and in grey flannel these unis even looked very close to wool. 
    Only the better fit from the old-time bagginess gave them away...
    
    glenn
      
111.22PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollMon May 03 1993 17:091
    Metz can't help it.  He's a graduate of the MrT School of Geography.
111.23ROYALT::ASHEOwner 92-93 DEChoop & FBA champsMon May 03 1993 17:093
    I don't think they're within 2-3 hours, but they are "Florida's team"
    
    
111.24CAMONE::WAYAre you Master of your domain?Mon May 03 1993 17:2826
111.25NWD002::JOLMAMAImpeach the Clintons.Tue May 04 1993 19:0617
    The Very Good      Penn State Football
                      
    The Good           Mariners
                       LA Dodgers (hurts to admit this)
                       LA Raiders
                       UW Huskies
    	               Oakland A's
                       Pittsburgh Piriates 
    
    The Bad	       Portland Trailerblazers
                       Miami Football
                       Dallas Cowboys
    
    The Very Ugly      Miami Fish (baseball)
                       Miami Fish (football)
                       Oregon Duck Football
    
111.26NWD002::TUTAK_PEI was a teenage Water DropoTue May 04 1993 19:4637
    
    I dunno. I think the teal on the Fla. unis is all right, for it's a new
    color in the spectrum for a MLB team. No one's said boo about the
    Rockies' purple, although its admittedly more subdued. I always had a
    problem with the teams who tried a bit -too- much, i.e. the 80s Astros
    with those jerseys that looked like they belonged on a Corn Dog
    attendant, and the 80s Chisox jerseys with "SOX" across the chest and
    belly. Phew. Whereas pinstripes were supposed to make players look thin
    and lean, the horizontal stripes made everyone look flabby.
    
    The return to basic whites and greys with a dash of color in the emblem
    and home logos across the left breast are what I really dig. A bit of
    dash, and yet pretty traditional.
    
    Vests are beautiful. They make me think of the KC (P)Athletics in the
    60s, with a dozen guys named Ozzie Chaverria running all over the
    place, not scoring any runs. 
    
    New idea for the Colorado uniform:
    
    	'Birkenspikes': Open toed spiked shoes with a negative heel,
    			 straps around the insteps.
    
        Socks/Stirrups: Calf-length heavy wool hiking socks, a la LL Bean.
    
        Trousers: Baggy, Knee-length shorts, with extra pockets. Leather
                  suspenders.
    
        Jersey: Flannel, natch. Heavy blend with breast pockets. Optional
                longsleeve undershirt by Helly-Hansen.
    
        Cap: Baseball style, with earflaps.
    
    Build on the concept, if you please.
    
    Kat
        
111.27CAMONE::WAYGlamour!?!?!?Tue May 04 1993 19:567
>    New idea for the Colorado uniform:
    
If you did that, you'd naturally have to outfit the Toronto Blue Jays, eh,
in touques and plaid parkas....


8^)
111.28DECWET::METZGERImagine your logo here.Tue May 04 1993 21:1112
Then the Mariners would be wearing jeans 3 sizes too big pulled down around
the upper thigh region, 1 flannel shirt tied around the waist, 1 plaid shirt 
with hood worn on the upper body, a Mombo sock for head gear and rag wool
socks with Birkenstocks for footwear.

each player would have to have a different body part pierced. eyebrow, nose,
tongue, ear, nipple.. chain from nose to ear...you name it...

The grunge look for baseball...

Metz
111.29QUASER::JACKSONTATo walk the caves of iceTue May 04 1993 23:371
      The Rockies have ugly Sunday home game unis.
111.30One of the funniest MAD articles ever!TNPUBS::NAZZAROBoston Shootout - June 18,19,20!Wed May 05 1993 15:213
    I am am BIG 43-man squamish fan!  Boston needs a local franchise!
    
    NAZZ
111.31C.Crawford ain't purtier, but she'd look great playin' for Dean!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed May 05 1993 15:3710
    Long before Dean, ... long before three (3) Titles, ... long before
    animals or trees or Adam or Eve, ....
    
    the sky was Carolina Blue.
    
    NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING, is purtier than UNC's road baby blue's ...
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
111.32truth comes outHBAHBA::HAASnot a real green dress, that's cruelWed May 05 1993 15:4910
It's good to see a Tar Heel fan tell it like it is:

>    ... baby blue's ...

Not Carolina Blue or Tar Heel Blue but Baby Blue.

Actually, throw in the 10 or so titles from UCLA and all and all this
color hasn't done too badly in the NCAAs.

TTom
111.33SOLANA::MAY_BRInside Intel, but no Intel insideWed May 05 1993 18:3310
>    NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING, is purtier than UNC's road baby blue's ...
 
    The reason this true:
       
    
     The average SAT scores of the state go up
        
      
        
111.34new MLB uniforms in '94BALL4::KURASSpring hopes eternalThu Mar 24 1994 14:4846
    Several MLB teams will be introducing new uniforms, or modifications of
    last year's model, when the '94 season officially gets underway.
    
    The Texas Rangers will christen their new ball park with new uniforms.
    I haven't heard too much about their uniforms. But I understand that
    their caps will be red.  (hard to believe that in the last 20 years or
    so, there have been no teams in the AL who's predominant color is red!)
    
    The Indians were to unveil new uniforms to go with their new ballpark
    too, but I haven't heard any details.   There was a rumor that they
    would drop their red-faced smiling Indian logo on the uniform & hats.
    
    The Astros dropped the sotfball style look that included the wide
    rainbow-patch across the shoulders.  The new uniforms will be a bit
    more traditional, with a new style star on their cap.  Hope they drop
    the white shoes in favor of black.
    
    The Brewers have copied the Mariners & Rockies.  Their caps, like
    Colorado, have the initials  of both the city & nickname - MB
    intertwined in gold (not yellow) block letters.  The new color scheme
    appears to be similar to the Mariners - navy blue & green.
    
    Speaking of the Rockies, they darkened up the letters on their road
    uni's.  I think they were silver, lined with purple; and are now
    purple.
    
    The Mariners, who came out with new home & road uniforms & home/road
    caps last year, will take advantage of the demand for souvenirs by
    introducing yet another cap this  year.   ...don't know the details on
    it.
    
    The Cubs will introduce new uniforms this year.  The only thing I heard
    was that have a new style bear cub on the sleeve. The old one didn't
    look mean enough.
    
    And, the SF Giants are turning back the clock to the 50's & 60's
    bringing back the style that Mays & McCovey wore. This should include
    the fancy block letters (like the Red Sox) to spell out "GIANTS" on the
    home uniforms, while the road version spells out "SAN FRANCISCO" in
    block letters.   The numbers are to be more traditional, squared off,
    block numbers, as opposed to the rounded-corner versions of recent
    years.  
    
    Anyone have more details???
    
    /joek
111.35CAMONE::WAYValorThu Mar 24 1994 15:099
>    And, the SF Giants are turning back the clock to the 50's & 60's
>    bringing back the style that Mays & McCovey wore. This should include
>    the fancy block letters (like the Red Sox) to spell out "GIANTS" on the
>    home uniforms, while the road version spells out "SAN FRANCISCO" in
>    block letters.   The numbers are to be more traditional, squared off,
>    block numbers, as opposed to the rounded-corner versions of recent
>    years.  
    
This I like.  I guess I like the more traditional look on baseball unis....
111.36PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollThu Mar 24 1994 15:371
    I thought I read that the Indians were keeping Chief Wahoo.
111.37make Chief Wahoo McDaniel the official mascot.BALL4::KURASSpring hopes eternalThu Mar 24 1994 15:396
    >      I thought I read that the Indians were keeping Chief Wahoo.
    
    Could be.  I've heard nothing since last fall, when the '93 season
    ended, and there was talk about the new stadium & uniforms.  At that
    time, it was speculation that Chief Wahoo would not adorn the new
    uni's, based on all the flap about Indian heritage and sports nicknames.
111.38GRANPA::DFAUSTBad Things, man...Thu Mar 24 1994 17:065
    The Phillies are going to have an all blue cap (with a red P and red
    button on top) that they will be using for day games.
    
    Dennis Faust
     
111.39ROCK::HUBERFile and ForgetFri Mar 25 1994 16:384
    
    The new uniforms (rather like those of the 50's) do have Chief Wahoo.
    
    Joe
111.40unisCOMET::MARLANDThu Jul 28 1994 14:395
    I noticed this note hasn't been used for awhile so I thought I'd add
    something. As for the NFL, I'd have to say the worse uniform are
    those New England Pariot ones. They look like something out of the
    USFL. I think they should go back to the old ones.
    
111.41HANNAH::ASHEThu Jul 28 1994 18:022
    Worst in the AL - Tigers road uni's...
    
111.42Best and Worst in NFLSTRATA::GARRYDallas Cowboys shooting for 3-peatThu Jul 28 1994 18:296
    In NFL
    Worst uniforms are Atlanta Falcons...they should go back to there red
    Best  uniforms is Dallas Cowboys home white.......
    
    
    Tom
111.43 Raiderettes #1BIGQ::WESTThu Jul 28 1994 18:487
    
    Dallas home white, those uniforms look like hell, best uniforms are the
    Raiderettes.....
    
    Worst uniforms are Hals Dawgs, Cleveland Browns.....
    
    Westman.....
111.44definitlyCOMET::MARLANDThu Jul 28 1994 18:502
    Ashe, I agree with you on those Tiger road uniforms, those are the 
    worst things i've ever seen.
111.45HANNAH::ASHEThu Jul 28 1994 19:235
    I saw a clip of Jeff George in training camp.  Looks like they may have
    gone back to the red helmets now that Jerry's gone...
    
    -Walt
    
111.46This one is for RiggenBSS::MENDEZThu Jul 28 1994 21:046
    The worst uniform has to be the Broncos. That combination of orange
    and blue is quite tough on the eyes.
    
    The best uniform is 49ers.  That combination of crimson and gold is
    quite "royal".
    
111.47OURGNG::RIGGENBP says wampum from quantum good dealThu Jul 28 1994 22:067
Well Frank the 49'ers uni's are color coordinated for a bunch of pansy a**ed 
pretty boys like Jerry Rice and Steve Young. 

Blue and Orange aren't the best colors but at least they get dirty and when the 
players bleed you know it. 

Jeff
111.48Who says I'm biased?MKFSA::LONGgot some ocean front property in ArizonaFri Jul 29 1994 11:186
    Best uni's I've ever seen were the Pirate's colorful gold and black
    ones from 1979.  Complete, of course, with the 19th century pillbox
    style hat with the "Stargell Stars" appropriatly displayed.
    
    
    billl
111.49CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is two years old!!Fri Jul 29 1994 13:409
re: .48

I woulddda nominated them for the worstest of all time.

But I loved the "vest" type jerseys and patch "P"s they wore before that.

JMHO

=Bob=
111.50CAPNET::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingFri Jul 29 1994 14:123
    Best uni's in sports are the Chicago Blackhawks - home or away.
    
    Mark.
111.51CAMONE::WAYToo fast to live, too young to dieFri Jul 29 1994 14:2011
>
>    Best uni's in sports are the Chicago Blackhawks - home or away.
>    


They, along with the St. Louis Cardinals, are among the most expensive
to buy if you're buying one.   The Blackhawks will cost you $10-$15 more
than the other teams, as do the Cards.....


'Saw
111.52MKFSA::LONGgot some ocean front property in ArizonaFri Jul 29 1994 15:127
re 1979 Pirates ini's
>>I woulddda nominated them for the worstest of all time.

	A little touch of sarcasm on my part, there =bob=.


	billl
111.53Late night lasted night...CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is two years old!!Fri Jul 29 1994 15:177
|	A little touch of sarcasm on my part, there =bob=.

ZOOM!

That was the sound of that one going over my head.

=Bob=
111.54like those bright colorsCOMET::MARLANDFri Jul 29 1994 19:554
    re: .48
    I liked those 1979 Pirate unis, too, especially the all black ones.
    I also liked those all red ones the Indians wore in the mid to late
    70's.