Conference back40::soapbox

    re -1
    
    
    since ya'll live on the east coast i seriously doubt the 24 hour
    pledge. unless its 8-10 hour response time your advertising.

    Gene:
    
    We all know that you, as Marlboro Man extraordinaire, don't ever need
    any assistance...why whenever you need any help, you just shoot the
    nearest innocent pickup.

	Anyone got any info on DECUS in December ??

	Thanks.

Yes - it's the Fall manifestation of a large semi-annual gathering of
DIGITAL customers and employees.

    Any 'Boxers besides me gonna be there?  Me, I'm a booth captain...
    

    it's gonna be in deecee.  which is sufficient reason to disavow any
    knowledge of it.

	I was lokking for info on when and where and how to register.

	I am planning to go if management here approves.

	Thanks.

    Fall DECUS is in Anaheim.  Seminars 10-11 December, trade show 12-14
    December, sessions 12-15 December.
    
    Spring DECUS is in DC.

re .8

Boxbash at DisneyLand!

    
    Is VH-1 a cable station?
    If not, what channel is it?
    
    						Thanks
    
    							Hank

 Cable station..

    Hank,
    
    VH1 has been running EC specials all week long and will continue
    to do so thru the weekend.  It is a subsidiary of MTV and it is
    on cable.
    
    

    
    Hi Karen,
    
    	I see you can read minds as that is exactly why I was asking.
    	I'll have to find someone to record it for me.
    	Thanks for the info.
    
    								Hank

I plan on recording both Fri and Sat night.

daryll

    
    Don't rub it in Daryll

Not trying to. I'm in Salem NH. If you're local, you're welcome 
to borrow them afterward.

daryll

    
    Thanks for the offer Daryll, I really appreciate it.
    
    
    						Hank

    I've taped each night this week.  Some of the stuff has been included
    in old videos and interviews; but there were some vintage clips last
    night that were great.  EC performing on the old Johnny Cash show with
    Cash and Carl Perkins; EC and Pete Townsend doing an acoustic number
    together on some sort of BBC talk show "Saturday something or other".
    
    I think tonight is a tape of the final rehearsal before recording
    From The Cradle......
    
    

Can anyone tell me what the proper technical/medical/biological term is for
the white of your eye?

    
    whats the name for the condition where patches of ones beard 
    turn white?

Middle-age.

    
    no, its really a patch, rest of beard is quite brown and don
    johnson-like.
    
    it ruined my modeling career ;-)

    Does anybody know what the escape sequence is for placing the cursor of
    a VT at the bottom left corner of the screen, without clearing the
    screen?

    Glenn

Do you mean -
   <csi> 24 ; 1 H

?
   

    Is that like
    
    <esc>[24;1H
    
    ?
    
    

I believe so, but all I have here is a VT340 Prog. Man. Somewhere during
the late VT1xx era they stopped communicating in simple English.

    Thanks Jack, it worked!
    
    I was looking through those manuals as well. They're terrible! No
    examples of how to use anything!
    
    Glenn

>>    Need assistance?  Our friendly and courteous staff is available to
>>    answer your inquiries 24 hours a day.

	....here goes...

	I have this very cool new ergonomic Logitech mouse - why
	can't I, or, what would i have to do, to be able to cut and paste
	between windows (eXcursion terminal windows specifically) ??



Thanks,
Pat

	

    To cut and paste between eXcursion windows, all you need to do is
    select the text you want to cut (i.e. hold down the left button of
    your mouse and drag it over the text.) Then, move to the window you
    want to paste into, and press mouse button 2. This will paste the text
    at the current active cursor position in the target window.
    
    To cut and paste text between eXcursion and other applications, you
    must select the text as described above, and use the "Copy" command
    under the "Edit" window. This will copy the text into the Windows
    "Clipboard" Then, in the target application, select the "Paste" option
    (which is under the "Edit" menu in most applications) This will cause a
    DDE transfer from the clipboard into the application's edit buffer.
    
    Now when OLE 2.0 becomes more commonplace, the second procedure will
    look more like the first (i.e. it will look more like how eXcursion
    does cut and paste)
    
    -b

>>    To cut and paste between eXcursion windows, all you need to do is
>>    select the text you want to cut (i.e. hold down the left button of
>>    your mouse and drag it over the text.) Then, move to the window you
>>    want to paste into, and press mouse button 2. This will paste the text
>>    at the current active cursor position in the target window.


	Ummm, thanks.  Maybe I wasn't clear (I know how to cut and 
paste between windows...I just look really stupid :-) )  - the 
question is mouse specific....I think anyway.....


Pat

    Well, without further hints I don't know what your problem is? Is the
    mouse cursor not moving? Are the buttons not working?
    
    In Windows, you need to load the correct driver for the mouse you are
    using. This is done using the "Windows Setup" program which appears
    under the "main" window. The command you need to use is "Change System
    Settings" under the "Options" menu of Windows Setup. Use the pull-down
    to select the correct mouse driver. If no mouse driver is available
    under windows for the mouse you are using (Logitech mice should be),
    then you need to load the driver from the floppy disk that (usually)
    comes with the mouse.
    
    -b

>>    Well, without further hints I don't know what your problem is? Is the
>>    mouse cursor not moving? Are the buttons not working?

	You're right...


	OK, I loaded the new driver that came with the Mouse - it 
is a Logitech TrackMan mouse (very cool, btw)  - ran setup from the 
diskette and all....restarted windows....etc.....in the setup it does 
allow for some pretty neat settings for the mouse buttons (i.e., 
automatic double click, put into an icon etc....)-  however no where 
does it even mention cutting and pasting - and that all works 
fine, however when I want to use the standard features of my OLD 
mouse, the one that came with the system (DECpc LPx 466d2), like cut 
and paste with the mouse - I can highlight to my hearts content, 
howver I can't drop that highlighted (selected) area into another 
window; it also doesn't worrk within applications, from one area to 
another.   If I reconnect my old mouse (boring) and run through setup 
for it = aok, however that isn't the case with this one = which is why 
I'm thinking it might be mouse specific.

	
Feel free to contact me off-line if I'm still making any sense....


Thanks,
Pat

    Did anyone play tricks on you and switch the mouse buttons so they're
    bassackwards?
    
    HAve you tried copying the highlighted stuff via the clipboard?
    Highlight text and then select cut or copy, go to the other window
    and select paste or insert from the (EDIT?) menu bar, or whatever they 
    call it.
    
    As a last resort, ask Jong, he prolly wrote the manual for that.  ;^)

    
    what the heck is the difference between this topic and
    "1-900-SOAPBOX"???
    
    

 One is an 800 number, the other a 900 number\





Hope this helps

    
    {{smaq}}}
    
    
    

    Ask serious questions here; chatter like a magpie in 1-900-soapbox

    
     IS that "floor magpie"???
    
    :)
    

    
    
    anyone out there know the current rate for minimum wage in
    massachusetts???
    
    

    
    $4.25/hr
    
      bb

    
    
    merci, bb
    
    

    
    my son wants to have a formal burial for his hamster.  i had foot
    surgery last week and can't dig a hole and neither can he.  i was
    thinking that cremating the hamster would be more momentous.  we could
    wrap it in gauze or something like that, build a pyre and even collect
    and keep the ashes.
    
    Any quick ideas how to build a pyre.  what would be needed to make sure
    the fire is sufficient to do the job (i can imagine the fire going out
    very early and us looking at a charred hamster - not a good idea)?
    
    this may sound wacky, i'm sure.  of course, i could freeze the hamster
    and dig the hole when my foot gets better.
    
    jeff

    You could just dump it in the Thames.

    well I was going to suggest using a barbecue......

Marinate the hampster in gasoline for about a week prior to the services.

    
    i do live on a large lake.  but we're not "water people" really so it
    wouldn't have much significance.  also, the corp of engineers would
    probably ticket us for polluting the lake.
    
    jeff

Animals die in the lake more frquently than you'd care to know. One more
hamster isn't going to pollute much.

    Well, I guess that leaves a "burner" or a "buryer" it certainly isn't
    an "eater".

    
    won't the hamster decay while marinating? or are you suggesting
    wrapping it well before marinating?
    
    jeff

No - I think the gas will quite effectively kill any micro-organisms with
which it comes in contact.

Do you have a self-cleaning oven?

    
    okay.  so i've got a way to ensure that he burns completely.  next
    question would be concerning the pyre.  should i try to find something
    to lay him on that will not burn and somehow capture the ashes or
    place him on something that will burn and take all the ashes together
    as "Sammy"?
    
    jeff

    place the hamster, suitably anointed in myrrh and aloes, swathed in
    linen wraps, and bedecked with jools, on two presto-logs placed
    together.  anoint the presto-logs liberally with barbecue lighter
    fluid.  stand back and apply a match.  when the fire's done you can
    collect the ashes.
    
    do not marinate the hamster with gasoline; it'll mess up his karma
    something fierce.

	What emotions the death of a hamster
	As precious as our little Sam stir.

    <---- I wish I had said that.

    
    You still can, but you won't get quite the same response.

	actually, it's grammatically incorrect - sorry about that.
	but maybe no-one will notice.  ;>

    "Let's put Mr. hampster in the microwave! Pop! Goes the Weasel..."
    
    Robin Williams

    
    use it as catfish bait.

    None of my business, but I'd think it would be pretty upsetting
    for your son to watch his precious little hamster burning in fire,
    not to mention the lingering aftereffects of the imagery and all
    that.  I'm not into psychobabble, but it would be "traumatic" for
    me back when I was a kid.  Kids of that age already have enough
    trouble getting used to the idea of death; I think this might upset
    him more.
    
    Chris

    In order to do the job adequately, you must have a fire hot enough to
    completely consume the flesh and bones.  Use oak or ash and maybe some
    dry pine for acceleration.  Build a pyramid shaped pile of fuel (like
    the scouts told you to) with enough tinder and kindling underneath and
    thicker pieces on the outside.  have additional fuel handy to add to 
    the flames.  Wrap the deceased in cloth for ceremony only.  Soaking in
    something flammable is not necessary as the fur will burn easily
    (smelly too) and quickly.  You must be willing to tend the fire until
    all of the flesh is consumed.  This means keeping it very hot.  Scoop
    up some ashes and place them in an appropriate vessel like a habitrail 
    tube or something.  Make sure the ashes have cooled.  You will not be
    able to distinguish from the wood and hampster ash so whatever you
    place in the vessel it will be mostly to partly ceremonial.  
    
    

    I would never roat a marshmallow myself.

    
    thanks for the concern Chris.  we discussed it this morning and we'll
    discuss it again this afternoon.  he seemed a bit interested in
    cremation (because he's seen Indians do this to their dead, in movies).
    he's lost his sister to death and we worship Jesus who died a horrible
    death so he has a healthy understanding of it.
    
    and thanks brian for the pyre instructions!  
    
    jeff

                      <<< Note 15.44 by USAT05::BENSON >>>

>of course, i could freeze the hamster
>    and dig the hole when my foot gets better.
 
	Or leave it frozen until medical science finds a cure........

	You know, there's probably millions to be in pet cryogenics.

Jim

    I had occasion last week to call a Microsoft Support Hotline. After the
    initial screening, I was put on hold in a queue.
    
    While waiting, the hotline plays a mix of light rock, light jazz, a
    little folk music, and there's actually a DJ who comes on between
    numbers and reviews the music, then goes down the wait times for the
    various queues, as in "The longest wait in the SDK line is 14 minutes".
    All of this peppered with occasional references to other Microsoft
    helplines, etc.
    
    I thought it was all very well done -- as opposed to the standard musak
    and looping pretaped message one encounters elsewhere.
    
    Has anyone else used their Hotline and had a similar reaction?
                                      

    I pump the hotline into my stereo system. Works great, saves money.

    
    thanks to all for your contribution to a very successful cremation of
    my son's hamster, Sammy.  he burned rather completely and all had a
    good time. ;)
    
    jeff

    Well don't keep us in suspense Jeff.  Give us the details.  How'd you
    build the pyre, where are the ashes etc.  
    
    Brian

    
    My dining room has two doorways and thusly two light switches.  It also
    has a lovely overhead light fixture BUT I think the light is a bit too
    harsh.
    
    I'd like to install a dimmer switch.
    
    Does it matter that there are two light switches?  I know this is a
    numb question, but I don't want to go thru the whole rigamarole of
    installing said dimmer switch only to have it not work for some stupid
    reason that I didn't anticipate.

    Your questions have such feeling though.  I wouldn't call them numb at
    all.  
    
    And no, it doesn't matter.  You can have a dimmer switch though it may
    require one to be off all the time unless you put a dimmer in both
    locations.  My advice, seek professional help.  :-)
    
    Brian

As long as it's a three-way dimmer switch, you can replace either or both
of the toggle switches with them. If it's not a three-way, you can't.

    No, you cannot use a dimmer switch. Geez, where's Kimball when you need
    him?
    
    A three-way switching arrangement requires the switches to be of binary
    state: on or off. Dimmers do not qualify. Things will toast if you try
    it. DO NOT DO IT!!!!!
    
    -b

    Three way dimmer switch: yes. That works, because the switch is DPST...
    but not a regular dimmer... try finding the other kind though...
    
    -b

    yes you can, if the dimmer is a push-in off/on, turn to dim type
    switch. it needs to be 3 way, tho' as described previously. i know.
    i've done it (at least in the UK, if that counts)

    the setup you have is called 3-way.  electrically it looks like this:
    
                switch a          switch b     light
                    ,o--------------o.
    hot wire -----o'                  `o---------O---------- neutral wire
                     o--------------o
    
    when both switches are up, as drawn here, or when they're both down,
    current flows.  when they're in opposite positions, no current flows. 
    you cannot put a standard dimmer in this circuit; there's simply no way
    to hook it in.  there are special 3-way dimmers; you could hook it up
    with a dimmer and a switch, or with two dimmers.

                                 
    Oh dear.  Let me see if I have this straight.  I have to buy a 3-way 
    dimmer switch?  And I _can_ replace only one of the switches, I don't 
    have to replace both?  
    
    What exactly is a 3-way dimmer switch anyway?  I installed a dimmer many 
    years ago, it was a push and twist sort.  Will the package in the hardware 
    store specify that I'm buying a 3-way dimmer switch?  Do I only have 3 
    brightness choices if it's a 3-way dimmer switch kind of like a 3-way 
    light bulb?  Do I have to buy special light bulbs for the chandelier?
    
    I have more questions now than when I started 8^(.
    
    
    Professional help, hmm...I don't think I've ever dated an electrician.  
    I'll have to check 8^).

    
    well, i had the discussion with graham and he decided he wanted to
    cremate sammy.  we built a pyramid of dry oak leaves, newspapers and 
    small sticks on top of some larger oak and pine logs and laid "kindle 
    sticks" (very small "sterno" logs for starting fires) all around and 
    inside the pyre.  on top of this we laid sammy, bedecked in his jools
    (chewing sticks and slimey balls of his hoarded food) and wrapped in
    semi-fine cotton rags.  graham ignited the fire and we began our eulogy
    and watched him burn (it took 45 minutes).  i tried to film it but, of
    course, my battery was dead.  as soon as sammy was not discernable, graham 
    spent the rest of the cremation playing with the fire.  i actually
    could somehow identify where sammy's ashes were so we heaped them into
    a jelly jar and labeled it - "my pet hamster - Sammy - died 11/30/94".
    and then we went to church.
    
    jeff

>    Your diagram is wrong...

I don't think so.

>    error... being able to turn it on/off from one end depends upon the
>    position of the switch at the other end... which is not how it works.

I don't think so.

Dick's diagram looks quite correct.

    Oh man, I get the CRI award for today... of course, if you look at
    Dick's diagram you will notice that it is indeed a DPST switch and is
    quite correct... I apologize. As I was walking to the meeting -- which
    the other people haven't shown up for yet-- I realized how wrong I was
    and came back and entered this note... now to get back to the meeting
    for another try...
    
    -b

    .85
    
    actually, brian, they're spdt switches, not dpst.  :-)

    
    This sounds complicated.  Any electricians out there want a date?  8^)

    SPDT. Yes. A most humbling day indeed...
    
    -b

    .87
    
    thanks, mz_debra, i'd like one, but i don't eat dates.

    >thanks, mz_debra, i'd like one, but i don't eat dates.
    
    oh er.
    
    DougO

	Jeff, that was truly disgusting, and cult like. Thank you for sharing
that with us. 

    
    My father was cremated.  There's nothing cult-like about cremation.  I
    think it's a good idea.

    	Another less-elegant solution:
    
    
>                switch a          switch b     light
>                    ,o--------------o.
>    hot wire -----o'                  `o---------O---------- neutral wire
>                     o--------------o
    
    
    	Leave all the current switches in place, and add a standard
    	dimmer switch here -----------------.
    	                                    |
    	                                    |
    	                                    |
>                switch a          switch b |   light
>                    ,o--------------o.     V
>    hot wire -----o'                  `o---------O---------- neutral wire
>                     o--------------o
    
    	Of course that requires you to find the proper wires in the
    	wall/ceiling, punch out a new switch hole, etc.

    
    Oh...no no no.  If I need help installing a dimmer switch, I'd REALLY
    need help punching holes in the wall...
    
    But come to think of it, I do know a couple of carpenters...8^)

    Glenn, what is so different about this and having a funeral parlor
    sanctioned cremation performed?  Even though I know Jeff's beliefs and
    mine are different, I find it touching that the child would care so
    much for the pet and be aware enough to participate in a ceremony to
    send it off to the great Habitrail in the sky or wherever.  I agree 
    with the cult like aspect but most/all religious ceremonies could be 
    portrayed that way as well.  I view this as being a more dignified 
    send off than flushing it down the toilet or putting in the trash.  Not 
    so weird when you look at how attached kids can become to their pets.  
    YMMV of course.  
    
    Brian

With a 3-way switch at one location and a 3-way dimmer at the other, you can
turn on and off from either location, but only set brightness from the
dimmer switch.  If the dimmer is turned way down, flipping the switch at
the other end will only switch between off and all the way dim (which will
usually be equivalent to off, especially after being turned off once and
then back on).

With 3-way dimmers at both locations, the situation is the same, except that
you only get full brightness if _both_ dimmers are turned up.  If either one
is turned all the way down, you may not be able to do anything from the other
one.

/john

| <<< Note 15.93 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of Perdition" >>>


| My father was cremated.  There's nothing cult-like about cremation.  I
| think it's a good idea.

	I agree. But was he cremated in your back yard?

    So, you can't have it both ways? Or is that 3 ways?

    dimmer snarf!

	Brian, being cremated in a place where it's normally done, has
conditions, heat at a certain temp, to help prevent smell, germs, etc from
going everywhere. Burning a pet in the backyard seems kind of sick to me. Hey,
would it be ok to do if it were a German Shepherd? I somehow think many would
be up in arms about that if it were to happen. 


Glen

    This crosstalk of tips for creating pets and wiring diagrams for dimmer
    switches troubles me.  I hope no one gets the advice mixed up...

    Well, if you're really *creating* pets, a little electricity might be
    useful... what the heck... it helped Dr. Frankenstein :-) :-)
    
    (pronounced "Frahnkenshteen" of course...)
    
    -b

    
    And is it FROderick? 

 Glen, we're talking about a hamster, fer cryin' out loud...





Jim

    Oh sweet mystery of life I've found you...
    
    -b

    > Note 15.101 by BIGQ::SILVA
    
    Take some ex-lax will ya.  Jeff probably lives on Lake Lanier.
    Probably no neighbors, but if so, they probably wouldn't GAS anyway.  
    They're like that around here.  Remember, we're the bad folks who
    burn leaves and stuff in our yards and don't get on our knees to
    kiss the counties arse.

    
    glen dislikes me so much that he doesn't mind appearing utterly
    ridiculous.
    
    ffej

Creating pets is being discussed in the Evolution topic.

Along with, of course, Dahmer.

    You forgot the inerrancy of scripture.

| <<< Note 15.105 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "Dig a little deeper" >>>



| Glen, we're talking about a hamster, fer cryin' out loud...


	Gee jim, someone mentioned pets and not humans. I guess size is the
next factor we must deal with? 

| <<< Note 15.108 by USAT05::BENSON >>>


| glen dislikes me so much that he doesn't mind appearing utterly ridiculous.

	Ohh... did you burn cows too?


Glen

    
    
    When you can't refute the message... go after the messenger...
    

RE:               <<< Note 15.111 by BIGQ::SILVA "Memories....." >>>

>| <<< Note 15.105 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "Dig a little deeper" >>>



>| Glen, we're talking about a hamster, fer cryin' out loud...


>	Gee jim, someone mentioned pets and not humans. I guess size is the
>next factor we must deal with? 



 See .105 (reprinted for you above).





Jim

    >	Gee jim, someone mentioned pets and not humans. I guess size is the
    >next factor we must deal with? 
    
    I've been told size isn't important... :-)

    
    
    
    They say that only guys who have a small schvonce say that, but I
    happen to know it's true.......no, really and that doesn't meant
    that.......er, um, never mind.
    
    

    
    That's what all genitally challenged men say!
    
    8^)

    Um, yes, well... I was only repeating hearsay... you see, well, um, er,
    I've never, er, um, had that particular, er, um, problem myself... I'm,
    er, I have, um, er, large hands and feet.
    
    -b

    Not only that, that's what all the men with small willies say.

    RE: Burning cows...
    
    Did that last night.  Singeing is more like it actually.  Nice and red
    in the middle.  Ummmm.  
    
    Brian

    
    how do y'all get thos backward question marks in your text?  my
    keyboard doesn't have such a key.
    
    jeff

        *
      *   *
      *    ******  *
       *

    <--- looks like an orgy

    
    
    I told you it was fun..... 

    some people might question that.

    {simper}

    >>>What kind of terminal do you have 
    
    ...a beige one....  %^> %^> %^>
    
    
    
    
    

    
    
    hey!!!!  that's not fair!!!!  i can't read any of what you are
    writing!!!!
    
    
    {{pout}}
    
    

    Jeezus Christ, enough already!  Seriously.  You, too, Leech.

    Hope this helps,
    \john

    What's the difference between PostScript and encapsulated PostScript,
    and how do I encapsulate my PostScript files?

    Encapsulated Postscript is the time release version I think... :-)

    OK, I'll be serious...
    
    Encapsulated Postscript is what you would use to embed a Postscript
    file within something else... a word processor document, a graphics
    metafile, even another postscript document.
    
    Postscript is a page description language... so what if you want
    to "synthetically" put a page within a page... like if you have
    a postscript graphic that you want to put in a frame of a word-
    processor document. What Encapsulated Postscript does is to allow
    you to define that "virtual page"... so that the resulting graphic
    is mapped onto the available area in the frame...
    
    Encapsulating a Postscript file involves placing it inside a
    different Postscript header -- or preamble -- that indicates that
    all page coordinates within the embedded Postscript file are to
    be "virtual", relative to the frame...
    
    Most applications allow you to create an Encapsulated Postscript file
    or a regular Poscript file, as output, rather than sending the output
    to a printer...
    
    -b

    To encapsulate your files, you need to shred them finely, I suppose
    that's what word processors are used for.  Then you just sort of pack
    it in one half of the capsule and stick the other side on snugly.
    
    There's a fair amount of waste - I think you're better off getting your
    postscript at a stationery store already made up.  You don't really
    save all that much money by packing your own...
    

    
    That sounds like how they make Weetabix!

    Cripes, I've given up completely.
    
    The dimmer switch discussion actually got me to thinking about one for
    my dining room.  Now I'll probably just go burn something in the back
    yard.  Maybe an effigy of a cat, in honor of Gene.
    
    Confused in Chemsfid
    

Or, more easily, press "Compose Character" and then the regular "?" twice.

(If using Motif, hold compose and press space, then "??".)

/john

    
    
    Anyone know the hours for Pheasant Lane Mall???
    
    I keep trying to call, but get a busy signal or a canned speech about
    the merits of shopping there...

    
    Oh heck, I was just by there last night...it's up on the marquee...too
    bad I have a real problem with short term memory.
    
    If said s.t.m. serves me right, tho, they're open til 10 at night this
    weekend.

    
    
    i do believe they are only open to 9:30pm...not sure about what time
    they open, and i don't know what their xmas hours are going to be...
    
    when ya going???  i have to get up there soon!!!
    
    
    

    
    Hi raq....
    
    As soon as I find out how late they're open!!! :) :) :)
    
    I refuse to shop there during "normal" hours.... I just can't put up
    with the traffic headache and all the "courteous" people about me...
    
    A friend mentioned to me that last year he went there late (after 9?)
    and the place was open but virtually dead... My kinda time!! :) :)
    
    I'll let you know so's we can meet for a cup of java/tea/whatever.. :)
    
    
    Andy
    

 Last year I got to the PLM when it opened.  Got in and got out right quick
 like.  That's the only way you'd get me over there.  I do believe they are
 open til ~10PM til Christmas.




Jim

    What was the title of the note in the old 'Box listing departed
    'Boxers?  I have an off-line request for a copy, but I can't locate
    it...  Thanks!

10PM sounds right to me, too, for the Xmas season.  

I was there Tuesday evening, from about 6:30 to 9:00,
and it wasn't crowded.  "Normal" flow of people, but
it really does start to clear out around 8:00.

Hit the mall for the last two hours it's open, then
Toys "R" Us afterwards, if it's in your plans.  They're
open 'til midnight.  Primo shopping hours!

My fave's Barnes and Noble.  Always open until 11:00.

re:                   <<< Note 15.162 by TNPUBS::JONG "Steve" >>>

You'll find the list reproduced (and updated) in 39.1 in this 'box, Steve.

    
    
    
    deal, andy...seriously...lemme know when you are going...
    
    

    
    
    Seriously.... I had every intention of doing so...

    
    
    whatcha doing tonite??  :>:>:>
    
    

    Re: .151
    
    >Encapsulated Postscript is what you would use to embed a Postscript
    >file within something else
    
    That part I knew.  I was looking for the technical differences.
    
    >Encapsulating a Postscript file involves placing it inside a different 
    >Postscript header -- or preamble -- that indicates that all page 
    >coordinates within the embedded Postscript file are to be "virtual", 
    >relative to the frame...
    
    So, how do I do that?
    
    >Most applications allow you to create an Encapsulated Postscript file
    
    Have any names?
    
    The deal is, I'm doing color screen captures, which I want to include
    in a PowerPoint presentation.  PowerPoint now understands encapsulated
    PostScript.  So I have to convert the .PS screen captures into .EPS
    files, and I need something which doesn't get all confused if you feed
    it something other than black-and-white.

    Do you have MS Word? If so, creat a frame, import the drawing
    (hopefully, it's in a format that MS Word has a convertor for... if
    not, another application will be required to create that format.)
    
    Then, from MS Word, print the document (consisting of the imported
    drawing), but print to FILE instead of LPT1... in the print dialog box
    you can select "Encapsulated Postscript."
    
    Not 100% sure about the color issue, but it _should_ work...
    
    -b

PLM hours as of now (checked at lunchtime) -

Mon-Fri 10-10
Sat 9-10
Sun 10-7

    
    
    Yo Jack!!!
    
    How'd you get through???
    
    :)
    

Through what, Andy?

    
    I bought two nice little poinsettias last night, one white and one red.
    
    Of course, when I got them home, I realized I had no clue as to how to care
    for them.  (These are my first poinsettias.)  Do I need to keep them damp or
    dryish?  Bright light, dim light?  Cool, warm?  Plant food?
    
    Any help would be appreciated.
                                                                           

    
    water them well (let them drain) and then water again when the soil is
    dry to the touch.  they need good light but indirect if possible
    (direct sunlight will fade the color).  room temperature should be okay
    but keep them out of drafts of any kind.  you may feed them a balanced
    fertilizer every couple of weeks or so.
    
    jeff

	If I remember correctly, I rarely do, the leaves are poisoness (sp).
Don't let little kids get into them. I think they would get sick from them,
not die.

    
    Thank you, Jeff.  I will follow your advice and hopefully they will
    live thru Christmas...
    
    
    And Geoff...little kids in my house?  Bite yer tongue 8^).

	Just trying to be helpful. Friends of ours had some and had
some kids visit over the holidays. Needless to say the one year old
pulled a leaf off and ate it and got very sick.

	So if any little tikes come to visit, just place them out
of reach. %^)

    RE: Poisonous plants...
    
    You may not have kids to watch out for, but keep an eye on your kitties
    as well...
    
    C

    
    <--- oh dear!  Damn!  My kitties!
    
    Oh no, now I'm worried 8^(.
                

    Not to alarm you Deb, but they are deadly to cats and dogs...
    
    Chip

If nibbling on a leaf made a 1-year old ill, approximately how many plants
should I have on hand if a family with five kids aged 3 thru 10 is visiting
me?

    
    It's a good thing I put them on the mantelpiece.  The cats have never
    been up there.

	If you are planning to feed this to them, I would suggest two
good sized plants, remove the leaves and chop up in to a nice garden salad.

	That ought to make them think twice about visiting you again %^)

    ]It's a good thing I put them on the mantelpiece.  The cats have never
    ]been up there.
    
     Not while you were home, anyway... ;-)

    I have this sneaking suspicion that cats are exactly as deoicted in
    that comic strip SYLVIA... They have to existences, the one they
    let you see and the one they use when they're alone. I have two and
    one's a psycho...
    
    Chip

    so those poinsetta's could off a kat, eh? this is very good news
    indeed.

    Isn't the mantelpiece one of the tricky parts on the way up to
    Kilimanjaro? It's just before the coffee table portion, isn't it?

Glenn1 and Glenn2, 

Only if you're on the way to search for last year's 
expedition......

joanne

    bad news Haag,
    
    Never has managed to kill any of my qats and I have three.  Poinsettas
    are not something I would pouut in a salad, their sap has an intestinal
    irritant in it, but it certainly isn't severely toxic.  There are
    plenty of houseplants which could meet this criteria though. 
    Poinsttias will merely make your cat harf all over the carpet, your
    bedspread, etc.  
    
    meg

    RE: the brace of fishing widows, yes _we_ see your points.
    Congratulations... Both of you.

Note 15.191 by CSC32::M_EVANS
    
    >Never has managed to kill any of my qats and I have three.  Poinsettas
    >are not something I would pouut in a salad, their sap has an intestinal
    >irritant in it, but it certainly isn't severely toxic.  There are
    >plenty of houseplants which could meet this criteria though. 
    
    which ones?

    
    Meg!  Don't tell him!

    here kitty, kitty, kitty.

    Haag,
    
    The most poisonous ones seem to put off bad vibes towards qats.  None
    of mine were ever touched.  this includes the digitalis in the
    backyard.
    
    meg

	Would it be dangerous to eat the cats who ate too much poinsettia ?

    
    Which Motown artist(s) recorded the song 'Just my immagination'?
    
    Its driving a group of us at the CSC daft!!!!
    
    POL$can't_get_the_tune_out_of_my_head

    re:  .199
    
    I believe it was done by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles.
    
    

    I thought it was the Temptations.

    No, that's just your imagination.
    
    

    
    believe it is the 'temptations'...
    
    question:
    
    how come when you walk your fastest up a rather steep hill and can't
    breathe, your mouth just keeps watering????
    
    

    Hmmm.  Maybe I'm thinking of "Second Hand Emotion."
    
    

 Temptations it was...



 "Second That Emotion" was done by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles.




Jim

	Here's one for the phone technology wizards....

	I'm thinking of buying someone a cellular phone for Xmas.  If
	I get said person a cell phone, can he/she toss it in the car
	and use it for a "car phone"?  

	I'm completely dense in this area.  I know the phone equipment
	itself is fairly inexpensive... it's the usage that costs.

	Input!  I need input!

    Yes, but... the hand-held phones tend to be lower power than the true
    mobile phones, and therefore sometimes don't work well in a car. But
    for occassional use in metropolitan areas, they're fine.
    
    -b

	I own both a hand held and a portable. If you are in the
Boston area either works fine. I like the hand held because I cna
take it everywhere. The portable becomes a phone you only leave
in the car. If you travel outside the city and 495 area the hand 
held often isn't poerful enough.

	With more and more towers going up, it is starting to
make almost no difference.

    
    I should think Mr.Covert is the true expert on portable phones.
    
    In fact I even caught him using his during the Saturday evening
    performance of _Patience_ last March to relay some breaking news to 
    a former 'boxer.
              
    Hmm John?  8^)

re: .206

There's an entire notesfile dedicated to cellular phones, technology,
pitfalls, packages, plans, hints, suggestions, advice and details.

UPSAR::CELLULAR

No need to thank me.
\john

See UPSAR::CELLULAR.

    Judging from where I've seen Herr Covert wearing his cellphone, he is
    quite intimate wiv the subject... :-)
    
    |-{:-)
    

	> No need to thank me.
	> \john

	True... since I already knew about
	::CELLLULAR was going to delve there for
	the particulars.

	Just hoping for the quick and dirty version
	from the trendy, techno-weenie 'boxers.

| <<< Note 15.212 by LJSRV2::KALIKOW "Cyberian-American" >>>

| Judging from where I've seen Herr Covert wearing his cellphone, he is
| quite intimate wiv the subject... :-)

	Dano..... does it fade in and out????

>> Just hoping for the quick and dirty version
>>	from the trendy, techno-weenie 'boxers.


	Hey..............I resemble that remark....%^)

re .214

You are a gross and disgusting pervert.

| <<< Note 15.216 by COVERT::COVERT "John R. Covert" >>>

| You are a gross and disgusting pervert.

	Why how nice. And Happy Holidays to you John. May God's love guide you
through the holidays. 

| -< And probably proud of it, too. >-

	If I had come up with the word "it", I would be proud indeed. But where
I did not come up with the word, I am only proud for the person who did.


Glen

    recent studies suggest that the all-in-one cellular fones emit enough
    electromagnetic radiation to cause or stimulate the growth of cancers
    in the user's brain.  like the cops who have had a rise in testicular
    cancer from holding their radar guns in their laps, this is real.

	Total balony........You dissapoint me Binder.


	Give us your facts.  Please %^).

    .220
    
    all i know on this is what my wife read to me from the morning paper. 
    i do know that the cop thing is considered valid, so much so that
    several states have issued directives that staties shall NOT rest their
    handheld radar guns in their laps.

    Dick:
    
    Is this new information or just a rehash from an old study.  If it's
    rehashed from an old study, that was subsequently debunked as hogwash.
    
    Now if new evidence indicates what you stated, that would be
    interesting.

	What about ze bra andrew?

    I predict that either Good Sense or our Noble Moderators will cause
    this imho violation of either Good Taste or Corporate Policy to
    disappear.
    

    .223
    
    ron, all i know is what i've said.  if someone has the real documents
    to show me that the cop thing has been debunked, i'm ready to read and,
    if appropriate, change my opinion.

re .225

And, of course, you see nothing gross, disgusting, or perverted about
.214 or your own .212 which encouraged .214.

/john

	Re .221

	I know of the flap about radar guns. But I think that
is a very different high intensity radiation.

	The flap about hand held phones is nonsense. I think
with all things, too much is never good. If you have this thing
next to your head 8 hours a day I am sure it's not good. 

	Consider how much electromagnetic radiation one gets from
the heating element in a water bed which is on many hours during
ones sleep.

    .228
    
    water beds do not radiate in the high megahertz frequency range. 
    there's a difference - witness the fact that a microwave oven can cook
    things a LOT faster than a similarly powered toaster oven.

>	Consider how much electromagnetic radiation one gets from
>the heating element in a water bed which is on many hours during
>ones sleep.

I'm not intimately familiar with them, but aren't they (the heating elements)
rather small and localized?

I'd doubt that the risk from these is anywhere near that from an electric
blanket, but I question a lot of the validity of these claims anyway.

I also don't use an electric blanket. And I think they've lost some popularity
over the past five years or so.

	I am not suggesting water bed heaters are a health
risk. I was pointing out that we are exposed to many forms
of electromagnetic fields on a daily basis and that I don't
believe the casual use of a hand held phone, cordless or
cellular, is a problem.

| <<< Note 15.227 by COVERT::COVERT "John R. Covert" >>>



| And, of course, you see nothing gross, disgusting, or perverted about .214 or 
| your own .212 which encouraged .214.

	Dan, you should feel bad for encouraging me to reply to one of your
notes. You bad boy you!

| -< Yeah, "in and out" with telephones is normal.  Right. >-

	John, shame on you for having such a dirty mind. No wonder you were
upset. I believe it was said FADING in and out, which with those phones it
happens a lot. I am truly sorry if you took it any other way. I am truly sorry
that you seem to have taken the words and made them into something that you
could call disgusting and perverted. Have a happy holiday season.


Glen

    Do you think it's dangerous to have a water bad at 85 degrees?

    
    Only if you have satin sheets.

    
    
    what do satin sheets have to do with anything?????
    
    
    

re .232

Claiming _I'm_ the one with the dirty mind after _you_ wrote .214 in
reply to .212 is rather dishonest, isn't it?

/john

| <<< Note 15.236 by COVERT::COVERT "John R. Covert" >>>

| Claiming _I'm_ the one with the dirty mind after _you_ wrote .214 in reply to 
| .212 is rather dishonest, isn't it?

	I believe Mz Debra placed a note in saying she didn't get it. She
apparently did not have a dirty mind. You, with your err.... reply, did. So
what was so dishonest about saying you had a dirty mind?




Glen

    Raq, if you have a water bad at 85 degrees, and you have satin sheets,
    with that kind of an angle you'd be hitting the floor pretty hard.
    Never mind trying to get into the bed to begin with.

    Glenn

>>                               -< gene!  {slap} >-
    
    
    OUCH!!!! i'll be good. promise.
    

    
    I suggest flannel sheets and flannel jammies.  Works like velcro.
                                                    

    
    oh...duh...i was thinking temperature... ;> :>
    
    

	Uh oh, Binder uncovered my evil plan to knock off
	a loved one.	;^)  ;^)

	Actually, the idea is to have a car phone for
	emergency use...  say, for example, if you're a
	person who's surfcasting on the outskirts of
	Cape Cod and you need to call for help.

	joanne

Speaking as an amateur radio licensee...
The wavelength of an 800 MHz cellphone is approximately equal to the size of
your head. This is probably a bad thing.

If I had one, the antenna would be on the car's roof, not next to my head.

    
    wonder how many speed radar sets broadcast at an integer multiple 
    of head width??
    
    might have to give up radars for police use..
    
    

>          <<< Note 15.245 by CALDEC::RAH "the truth is out there." >>>
    
>    wonder how many speed radar sets broadcast at an integer multiple 
>    of head width??

Nope, speed radar is somewhere in the 10 GHz range (= 10,000 MHz).

This puts the wavelength right around an inch or so... just about the size of
eyeballs and, uh, other globular appendages.

>> other globular appendages.


	Had to laugh about this one. Never heard it put
that way  %^) %^)

    
    so thats why they don't hold them at waist level; else the appendage
    rots and falls off.

    
    hey, operator?, i have a problem.  connect me with a zipperhead,
    please.
    
    zipperhead: yeeeeahssss?!
    
    zipperless: i'm trying to unzip some pkzipped files.  when i issue the
                correct commands pkunzip replies with:
    
    PKUNZIP: Warning! I don't know how to handle: filename
    
    		what should i do to resolve this problem?
    
    zipperhead: i'll reply in the next note or so.
    
    zipperless: why, thank you kind madam/sir!
    
    kerplunk

 You may need a newer version of PKZIP.




Jim

    PKzip 2.04g will work.
    
    Bonehead avoidance time.  Check your path, you probably got PKUNZIP.EXE
    all over the place.  Get the new copy and put it in a common area. 
    Don't accidently pick start using the older version.
    
    
    SPOOL COPY TRINTY::PD1:[MSDOS.ZIP]PK*204G.EXE  
                        

    thanks mike!  it does work.
    
    ffej

    
    Yet another musical question....
    
    Who was the female who sang Moonlight Shadow with Mike Oldfield????
    
    POL

    
    .253,
    
    Was it Maggie Reilly?
    

Gotta pick up #1 daughter at Logan around 1750 tomorrow. What's the recommended
time of departure from ZKO to make that comfortably?

(I was thinking around 15:30.)

>>(I was thinking around 15:30.)

	unless you're beaming yourself there, i'd leave earlier.  my
	experience has been that when you get to the bridge, if it's
	after 3:15 or so, you're in for a good long wait.  i suppose
	it depends on whether you'd rather wait in traffic or at the
	airport though.

    
    
    Rep .255
    
    >>>Gotta pick up #1 daughter at Logan around 1750 tomorrow. What's the 
       recommendedtime of departure from ZKO to make that comfortably?
       (I was thinking around 15:30.)
    
      It should only take about an hour from ZKO but you can never tell.
     If it was me, I'd leave around 16:15 or so.
    
    
    	-mike
    

    
    How much should one expect to pay for firewood?  I want stuff that
    comes ready to toss into the fireplace.  Since I practically removed my
    left index finger with a butcher knife while slicing a bagel, there's
    no way I'm getting anywhere near an axe.
    

    
    A truck carries about 2 cords, and ought to be $200 or so in Mass,
    all hardwoods.  It is more per cord if you don't fill the truck.
    
    But you may psy a premium now.  You're late.
    
      bb

    
    As my mother always says, I was born three weeks late and haven't
    managed to catch up yet 8^).

	so we're a big help, huh Jack?

I also got mail suggesting a route which avoids the bridge and tunnel (and
most of the traffic, apparently.) It sounds like I should allow somewhere
between 1.25 and 16 hours.

re: Firewood

I paid $250 to have two cords delivered cut, split and dry in NH in late
October, Mz. Debra.

>I also got mail suggesting a route which avoids the bridge and tunnel (and
>most of the traffic, apparently.) It sounds like I should allow somewhere

Jack, I don't think you can use the DECchopper for personal use unless you
are BP:-)

Bob

>Note 169.6                      Dog training tips                         6 of 8
>16.72.32.32::Ciarochi "One Less Dog..."              21 lines  13-DEC-1994 10:19
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Does anybody know what I need to configure in UCX or NOTES that
would translate the 16.72.32.32 into the actual name?

Oh, I just asked for a translation and it came back as unknown.  I
guess it's a name server problem...

\john

    
    New question:  (I got, er, received, good advice on the firewood one,
    thank you very much)
    
    I'd like to do a slide in Powerpoint with a flow chart.  I can't seem
    to find any utility or anything in HELP that uses the term "flow chart". 
    Is there another word for this, or do I have to do it freehand?
                                                                           

	Why is it that people can be such boneheads???? Approaching the lights
at the intersection of rts 27 & 20, there is a side street. There is a sign on
rt 27 that says, "Don't block intersection". Why is it that people using that
side road feel they can just dart through when we have a green light, AND the
right of way!!?? (they have a stop sign) I almost destroyed this older lady and
her car. She just darted out figuring SHE had the right of way! I'm glad I have
good brakes. But the worst part was the look she gave me, like I did something
wrong! 


Glen

    Look for a neato prog called "Inspiration" which is available for Mac,
    and newly for Windows.  Outline processor, flowchart symbols, idea
    capturer, braindump facilitator extraordinaire.  One of the niftiest
    pieces of SW I've ever used.
    

    .265
    
    to do flowcharts easily in presentations you need ClarisImpact.  what? 
    you don't have a mac?  too bad.  :-)

    I would like to do something different for my folks this christmas and
    someone mentioned sending them away for a weekend to a resort or
    somesuch.  Seeing as they live in the Metro Detroit (WNW) area and
    don't mind driving to Traverse City for a long weekend, this seemed
    like a nice option.  Not having lived in Michigan for quite awhile, I
    am no longer familiar with the resort areas other than Traverse City,
    Mackinac Island, Pentwater etc.  Does anyone know of a place that might
    be pleasant to send a couple for a nice relaxing weekend.  They are in
    their late 60's early 70's but quite active with golf, walking, sight
    seeing etc.   I was thinking somewhere on Lake Michigan, an inn or
    small resort, not a motel/hotel.  Any suggestions?
    
    Thanks much
    
    Brian

	I haven't been there, but from what I've seen/read,
	Mackinac Island looks like a nice location.  Still
	car-less, and Grand Hotel looks, uh, grand.

	joanne

    
    RE: .270
    
    If you want to see what the place looks like, just rent "Somewhere in
    Time"... 
    
     Stars Superman and the Saturday night Doctor lady...
    

    .266:
    
    Surely you did do something wrong:  you got in her way.
    Hey, she's been doing that since 1944 -- do you think you're going to
    convince her that it's poor driving (and probably breaks a couple of
    laws or regulations)?
    
    Dick

    
    That was probably the same older lady that drove out of a parking lot
    onto a main street without stopping or looking and hit a friend's car.  
    The lady said to Krystine, "You should have gotten out of my way!"
        

    	Re  what to get your parents for Christmas.
    
    	My father hates putting up the Christmas tree -- especially putting
    	up the lights.  His birthday was 12/11, and my sister set up the 
    	tree for him for his birthday.
    
    	When I'm old and fed up with putting the lights on the tree, I'd
    	love to have one of my kids come over and do it for me as an
    	early Christmas gift!
    
    	I think I'll print out this reply and leave it around so that my
    	kids can find it...

    What to get your parents for Christmas:
    
    Grandchild! :-)

    
    BITE YOUR TONGUE, NANCY!

    -1
    
    Ouch that hurt... now tell me why I did it! :-)

    Most likely they are.  If they smell funny, don't eat them.  If you are
    making soup where the cooking temps will be elevated for a long period
    of time, you should be okay as well.  If baking, make sure they are
    cooked through.  Wash thoroughly first.  
    
    Brian

    Does that mean he should take a shower or would a bath suffice?
    
    
    Glenn

	A bath is getting clean in your own dirt. But soooo damn relaxing...

FYI re: Drive to Logan yesterday PM -

Left ZKO parking lot at 3:22 and was pulling into the central garage at
Logan at 4:22. Traffic was heavy but continually moving the entire route
with the exception of only very minor delays at the bridge merge on 93
and the entrance to the tunnel.

>    <<< Note 15.275 by JULIET::MORALES_NA "Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze" >>>

>    What to get your parents for Christmas:
    
>    Grandchild! :-)

but that means starting my Christmas er-er shopping in March.

I usually wait until December 20 or thereabouts, it would never work. :-} :-}

Amos

You could go to the mall and snatch a kid.  Make sure you're wearing a wig.
Take some hair dye along.

	<----	Uh huh.  And, make sure you bring opposite-sex clothes for the
		kid so you can bring him/her into a restroom, disguise him
		to be whatever he/she isn't, and start resurrect an urban
		legend.

	j.

What's the best way for a DECwindows Notes user to ensure that the editing
window for entering notes is only 80 columns wide?

($ NOTES/NODECWINDOWS is my solution, but that's not the answer I want.)

/john

     Workz fer me.  Ugly but effective, as are all great brute force hackz.
    

I am looking for a little help.
I am dealing with a medium size corporation (not Digital or work related)
and have had no luck going thru various levels of management.

I am planning to write to the board of directors of the corporation.
I believe there is a way to address the mail (or include something in the 
salutation) that requires my correspondance to be read by the board and 
included into the minutes of a board meeting.

Does anyone know how to do this?

please reply by mail to TIS::HAMBURGER

Thanks
Amos

Does any conference cover laser disk (movie) players?  What features are nice,
what are worthless, good brands, bad brands, whatever?

    Check out AUDIO or VIDEO, don't know what nodes though.

KP-7 or SELECT

Bob

    The ability to play both sides of the laserdisc is a nice feature (so
    you don't have to get up and flip it over in the middle of a movie),
    but the audio/videophiles say such a thing may degrade sound/picture
    quality, as some compromises must be made in the transport mechanism. 
    I doubt such degredation would be noticable to most folk, if it does
    exist at all (to a noticable degree...I haven't spent much time doing
    any critical listening/watching on LD players yet, so I reserve comment
    on this).  
    
    Digital effects are supposed to be a nice feature...as is the
    jog/shuttle feature to scan back and forth through the disc.  
    
    For the audiophiles...a digital output is a nice feature.  Most of the
    quality players these days have them already...the coax out seems to be
    the favored one these days.
    
    Some allow you to turn off the lighting on the front panel, which is
    kinda nice.  
    
    Some, when playing a CD, will bypass the video circuitry to eliminate
    the chance of interference with the audio signal.
    
    Digial noise reduction (video), duel D/A converters (for sound),
    S-video outputs (which only work if you have a S-video input on your
    TV...and in some cases, if your TV has a good comb-filter, you get
    better results with the regular outputs) are a few more popular
    features.  Some even have a five-disc CD drawer built in.
    
    
    There's more, but I'm not up-to-date on the latest offerings...and
    won't be until I get around to some serious shopping.  8^)
    
    
    -steve                                                    

Re: <<< Note 15.292 by ROWLET::AINSLEY "Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow!" >>>

>>                              -< CLT::LASERDISC >-

Much too obvious, thanks.  I was expecting it to be buried in MOVIES or VIDEO
or something.

                           Roak

    OK all you unicians...  I have some logicals defined in my OpenVMS
    login.com that help me do double-up-on-a-page, two-sided printing, and
    also two-up-on-a-page PostScript printing...
    
$! *********   parts of my LOGIN.COM, <returns> added for legibility 
    
$  halaska2	:==	print/queue=alaska/header
    	/param=(Number_Up=2,Sides=2,data=ANSI)/notify
$  halaska4	:==	print/queue=alaska/header
    	/param=(Number_Up=4,Sides=2,data=ANSI)/notify
    
    and corresponding ones for PostScript queues...
    
    How do I do something as close as possible from OSF/1?  It's the same
    physical printer I use from OpenVMS, so there's probably a way... 
    Interestingly enough, printout from OSF/1 has cute gray banners on the
    burst page that proclaim it to be a Network PrintServer, using
    PrintServer 20, V5.0-17, PostScript version 48.3, rev 61, engine
    version 18, firmware version 32, if that helps....
    
    (CrossPosted in =wn=)                             

>    (CrossPosted in =wn=)                             

If /john posts the answer, will you crosspost it there too?

    
    /john has been unpanned and can post his own answer in =wn= now.
    
    Do try to keep up, geraldluv 8^)!

    
    alias halaska2 lpr -Palaska -N2 -K2 -Dansi -m
    alias halaska4 lpr -Palaska -N4 -K2 -Dansi -m
    
    								-mr. bill

|   I have some logicals defined in my OpenVMS login.com that help me do
|   double-up-on-a-page, two-sided printing, and also two-up-on-a-page
|   PostScript printing...
    
    Just to clear things up for a moment.  Those are not logicals, they
    are symbols.
    
    								-mr. bill

>    /john has been unpanned and can post his own answer in =wn= now.

Do they let him use the A-word?  Does he expound on STOP/QUEUE/ABORT?

    not logical, they are symbols...  what a rotten conceptual
    distinction!!!  I can goldarn NEVER keep it straight...  ARRRRGGGGH!!!
    
    Poor design is wot I sez.  Surely NUTTIN is wrong with the
    ol'bean...???
    
    Tnx, but time spent teaching this distinction to moi is, apparently,
    wasted.
    
    |-{:-)
    

    
    Quick...how does one become a PC/Pathworks/Teamlinks 
    guru, from scratch, in 4 weeks?
    

    .302
    
    Pray
    

    Can anyone explain to this novice how to extract lines from a note and
    get them in my reply?
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Dave

    
    Notes> EXTRACT FOO.TXT
    Notes> REPLY FOO.TXT
    

    not FEH.TXT?

    
    GEK.TXT.

    
    
    or you could mark, copy, and paste the text...
    
    
    
    and just for the record, in my not so humble opinion, teamlinks sucks.
    
    

    Ah raq, never used Teamlinks, but I've almost lost my mind more
    than once trying to assist someone in licensing the stuff.  Never
    has so much time been spent by so many people quoting a product
    that will probably never generate the revenue it could because 
    EVERYONE HAS SO MUCH FREAKING TROUBLE WITH IT!!!!
    
    There, I feel better now :-)
    

    
    yes, you can {{{SMAQ}}} in caps...i'll let you...
    
    but seriously, it's true...teamlinks is supposed to be the 'new'
    all-in-one...it is so slow...takes forever to connect up with it...once
    you send something, the system just hangs there...not letting you do
    anything else...and lord forbid you try to empty the wastebasket and
    have a lot of stuff in there...you can't do ANYTHING til it's done and
    depending on your amount of 'waste', it can take forever...
    
    and forget about trying to read or send something that is in
    wordperfect...
    
    
    stick with e-mail...it's so much easier...
    

    re: Note 15.302 by TROOA::COLLINS 
    
    > Quick...how does one become a PC/Pathworks/Teamlinks
    > guru, from scratch, in 4 weeks?
    
    
    
    HO HO!!!
    
    Grab all the hardware and software you can and start goofing around
    with it. 
    
    MadMike
    PC/VMS/NT/Pathworks "guru".

re: .301

If it does something when you type it, it's a symbol.  Otherwise it's a logical.

Bob

    	Symbols are usually verbs.  (Or more like complete sentences.)
    
    	Logicals are nouns.
    
    	Of course symbols can also be nouns:
    
    $ x=100
    $ sho sym x
      X = 100   Hex = 00000064  Octal = 00000000144

    Is there any way to search for a string of words in a notes file?
    Is there something similar to the SEARCH capability that is present 
    in All-in-One?
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Dan

    
    Yep.
    
    Type SEARCH "DEBRA" and it will bring you to the first occurrence of
    that extremely important word.
    
    After you've gazed at it long enough, type SEARCH and it'll bring you
    to the next occurrence of DEBRA.  Keep doing that over and over, etc. etc.,
    ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

You can also restrict it to a range of notes with

	/notes=note-range-specifier

where note-range-specifier is something like

	100.*-200.*

or even backwards such as

	20.l[ast]-20.1

/john

    
    Oh well no, I suppose if it's "DEBRA" you're typing, ad nauseam is NOT
    the right word...!

As of 1-Jan-1995, U.S. postage rates increased.  Does anyone have a rundown
on 1st class rates?  Stuff like post cards, add'l ounces, Canada, Mexico?

The only change is the first ounce within the U.S. is now .32; additional
ounces remain .23.  Postcards are .20.

The following are unchanged:

Rates to Canada remain .40 for the first ounce and .23 for additional ounces.

Mexico is .35 for the first half-ounce and .10 for additional half ounces
up to two ounces, then .25 for additional ounces.

The rest of the world is .50 for the first half ounce .45 for the second,
.39 for the third and subsequent half-ounces.

It remains cheaper to mail a 1/2 ounce airmail letter from Boston to Frankfurt
than a 1/2 ounce local letter within Frankfurt.

/john

How much are aerograms?

No change: Aerogrammes remain 45 cents (no enclosures allowed).

International postcards remain unchanged: Canada/Mexico are .30.
All other are .35 surface and .40 airmail.

/john

    
    >>The only change is the first ounce within the U.S. is now .32;
    >>additional ounces remain .23.  Postcards are .20.
    
    are you saying the postcard rate within the u.s. has gone UP to
    20cents??  because just last week and all of last year even, the
    postcard rate was 19cents...
    
    
    
    

Yes.

    I tried to buy some 3 cent stamps from the Post Office today.  I got a
    bunch of 29-ers that need complemented to mail letters.  The PO doesn't
    have any!!!  Won't have any until Thursday!!!  Don't have any 1 or 2
    centers either.  They told me there isn't any to be found in town.
    
    They raise the rates 3 cents and don't stock up with 3 centers!!!  Is
    the PO management stupid or what?
    
    -- Jim

    On the local news tonight, it was mentioned that the Dallas area Post
    Offices had 31 MILLION (didn't say what combination) of the new $.03
    and $.32 stamps and had sold 3 MILLION today.  They said they didn't
    expect to run out.
    
    Bob

Friend of mine (customer) asked for some help with a problem.  I figger
Soapbox is the best place to ask.

Subj:	DAT Tape/Drive Problem

Hope you have a good holiday, it is still spring like around here!

I have an ARCHIVE 4mmDAT drive #4540NT on my SCSI bus from my VS4000-60

In the past couple of months the tape drive has shown multiple errors.

DEC has replaced it with the above - the Error Log shows a HWREV=2.57 
the previous one was at HW rev 2.34

Talked to Connors who redirected me to DEC when I asked them about MEDIA
errors.  Connors asked me what type of tape I was using - I indicated that 
I had just bought a new batch of maxell HS-4/60s.  Connors asked me if the
words :Media Recognition System" were on the tape cartridges.  My answer 
was YES.  This is when they indicated that DEC would need to have a 
firmware update.

The Previous tapes were from DIC/DAT CBU Data Cartridge 1.3 Gigabyte/60 
Meters.

What I would like to know is:

		What is "Media Recognition System"? (education)
		Do I need a firmware update?
		Must I go back to DIC/DAT tapes or equivalent?
Pierre

Don't tell me, Ed - let me guess.

You've been selling stamps to Malerheum.

I've been accused of being a "TV snob" in another conference due
to a statement I made about not being a follower of network television.

Can anyone define the term "TV snob" for me. My only guess is
"someone who doesn't watch what I do".

    Well, I'll take a shot at it:
    
    TV Snob:	Someone who has the intelligence to realize that many
    		television programs are intentionally designed to appeal
    		to the lowest common denominator; and who has the audacity
    		to refuse to watch such programs, thus denying oneself the
    		unique experience of sticking one's face in the trough along
    		with the rest of the wretched souls; and who has somehow
    		let this cat out of the bag to the aforementioned wretched
    		souls in a public forum, thus holding up a mirror to their
    		inadequacies and arousing the rabble to respond with the
    		insult "Why, you're a TV Snob!".
    
    Chris

 .332 yeah - kinda like "wine snob"

    I you are aware enough to know the difference between good programming
    and bad programming, then you're a snob. 
    
     righto, Di. :-)

Mayhaps I should go back over there and attempt to redeem myself by
offering to share a Blue Nun with them then . . . . 

    Can you get Nun in a Box?  
    
    

    You can get mouton in a box, iffen you buy twelve bottles. :-)

    They don't want wine, Jack, they want videos.  Best bring the
    Deluxe Collected Works of Roseanne Barr Arnold Null and a tin
    of Orville's buttered nuggets.
    
    Chris

    Did someone mention moutons' boxes?
    
       (I hope this meets the standards of the New 'BoxModMorality...)
    

    Yer a bad boy, Dan.

    
    What causes your muscles to cramp up when they should be quietly 
    minding their own business?  Is it cold?  Lack of a particular mineral? 
    What?
    
    Does the moon have a set pattern like the sun, except on a monthly
    cycle rather than daily?

    lack of sex.

    
    I believe it 8^p.

    What are you doing awake. I'm leaving work soon it's like 5:00pm. You
    should be in bed asleep.

    Mz. Lauer,
    My wife had the same problem and I think she was taking to much
    calcium? Was was taking a suplamental dose in pill for...I would check
    it out if it continues.

    Deb... general causes of cramping are;
    
    1) dehydration
    2) low potassium
    3) cold
    
    normally, a lack of exercise won't instigate a cramp.
    
    Chip

    
    Could be the dehydration.  I try to drink between a half gallon and a
    gallon of water a day but in the past few weeks I'm still always thirsty.  
    I'll drink more (slosh, slosh 8^)).
    
    Dr.Dan:  Did I make myself clear?  I mean, I know that the moon goes
    around getting bigger and smaller, but what I meant was, why is it that
    when it was full last month I could see it out my front window but last
    night when it was large but not full I could see it out my back window? 
    Does it roll around from east to west (or whatever) like the sun?
    
    I never took astronomy or anything like that, if that's when I would
    have learned this little tidbit.  I really should have spent more time
    in science and math and less time in the practice rooms 8^/.
    
    Yours numbly @ MSO2-3/C3.

RE: 15.349 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of WarmMoistRogering"

> I mean, I know that the moon goes around getting bigger and smaller,  but 
> what I meant was, why is it that when it was full last month I could see 
> it out my front window but last night when it was large but not full I 
> could see it out my back window?  Does it roll around from east to west 
> (or whatever) like the sun?

The Earth rotates:  so over a period of about a day everything in the sky 
will go completely around,  from east to west,  just like the sun does 
(other than satellites and near-miss asteroids).


Phil

    Mz_Deb - a gallon o water a day and still thirsty?  See a doctor,
    seriously.
    
    Brian

| <<< Note 15.342 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of WarmMoistRogering" >>>


| What causes your muscles to cramp up when they should be quietly minding their
| own business?  Is it cold?  Lack of a particular mineral? What?

	Did a cute guy just walk by Deb???? That's when it happens to me. :-)


Glen

    
    Well Phil, does this mean I should be able to see the moon in the same
    place in the sky every night then?  Cuz I don't.

    You will not see the moon in the same place every night as the Earth
    wobbles during the year.  This is also why the Sun is higher or lower
    in the sky depending upon the month, season etc.  If you were to plot
    the path of the Moon's shadow on a graph with latitude and longitude as
    the coordinates, it would look like a sine wave.  It rises and sets at
    different times as does the Sun, constellations, individual stars
    planets etc.  Very cosmic actually.  
    
    

    
    Thank you, bri.

    Mz. Debra,
    
    You are in some serious needs for long moonlit walks, possibly on a
    beach for best viewing, and perhaps a few sessions of sitting in a
    parked car on a secluded hillside (so city lights won't interfere)
    watching the moonrise and set.
    
    Please get some attention at once!
    
    Having done this you'll see that the moon is on an almost 25 hour cycle
    which means that each day it appears to move backwards across the sky
    about about 1 hour in position.
    
    -- Jim

    Deb,
    
    With that amount of water, you could be washing out your electrolytes
    faster than you are replacing them.  Increase your intake of sodium,
    calcium and magnesium.  Being borderline diabetic myself, that much
    thirst may also be a sign.  Best call your care provider and get a
    checkup.
    
    meg

    
    <-- Perhaps you could write me a prescription for a companion 8^).

    
    Oh dear.  I don't want to be sick.

    The position of the sun has nothing to do with the earth's wobble which is 
    very slight but it has everything to do with it's tilt, thus the
    seasons.

    Right now the moon is waxing, so, you see it in the western sky early
    in the evening then it sets. When it's full, you see it all night, and
    when it's waning, you see it in the morning.

    Hope this helps.

<---  Oh sure, in Canada, maybe.	;^)

We are able to control the sun and the moon here in
the U.S.

>>    when it's waning, you see it in the morning.

	i don't know about this.  when it's waning, it's usuwy cwoudy.

    
    mz_deb...
    
    Go with what meg suggests in .357
    
    No need to get upset or scared... at least the docs will be able to
    take some tests....
    
    
      BTW.... eat many bananas?
    
    Andy
    

    Is that like wax on wax off????

    
    
    
    RE: .362  groan........ :')  I did laugh however.
    
    
    
    Mike

    You know, I never thought I'd meet somebody who loved puns more than I,
    and then I met Di.

    i don't think over-hydrating decreases your electrolytes. you
    normally lose them through water loss (persperation) through
    exercise... you can't drink too much water (unless the restroom
    is too far away).
    
    Chip

    
    I don't perspire.  I faint instead.

    chip,,
    
    seriously, you can actually change your electrolyte balance by
    overhydrating.  there are also a couple of metabolic problems other
    than sugar that can create excessive thirst.  
    
    

Why do you need to shake down thermometers that you take your temperature with?

Why don't they go both up and down like all other thermometers?

RE: 15.353 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of WarmMoistRogering"

> Well Phil, does this mean I should be able to see the moon in the same
> place in the sky every night then?  Cuss I don't.

One night to the next,  The Moon will move relative to the stars (and the
sun) by about 360/28 degrees or about 24/28ths of an hour per day.  So
if you look 13 degrees to the east of where you saw it the night before,  or 
look about 50 minutes earlier than you looked the night before,  you will 
see the Moon.


Phil

    no kiddin' Meg. never heard of it. i think you'd have to over-
    hydrate something fierce to that. then again, all of my reading
    on the subject is connected to cycling racing and fitness. it
    makes sense that the periodicals wouldn't even bother since
    a) your body would purge excess water  2) the focus is on replacement
    anyway...
    
    Chip

    Thanks for backing me up with the actual measurements Phil.  8^)

    Anyone know the address to a stereo/audiophile conference?  
    
    Many thanks in advance.

    	I know someone who gets leg cramps at night because of a sleep
    	disorder.  He stops breathing for up to 57 seconds at a time, and
    	as frequently as once every 7 minutes.  (Sleep apnea?  I don't 
    	recall.  He went through special all-night sleep tests for this.)  
    
    	When he stops breathing, his blood oxygen level drops to as low 
    	as 50% of normal, and that triggers leg cramps.

    re: .374, .375
    
    You'll find much good advice there.  Particularly 1384.9.
    
    								-mr. bill

    
    Well, can't be lack of oxygen for me, cuz I was singing at the time.
    
    Interesting concept tho.  That would wake you up 8^).

    .370
    
    I'm not sure of the protocol in this note.  Is one actually meant to
    answer the question?
    
    Please excuse me if this is a faux-pas.
    
    Clinical thermometers (the old kind with mercury or some other liquid,
    not the digital read-out type or the things they stick in your ear and
    pull the trigger) have a constriction near the bulb so that when the
    liquid expands it gets forced up the tube.  When it's then
    removed from the patient the liquid stays at it's hottest level so it
    can be read and noted at leisure.  To get it ready for another reading
    the liquid has to be forced back into the bulb.  The best way to do
    that is to shake it back.

    
    <------
    
    
    Ya done good kid.....
    
     :) :)

Re: <<< Note 15.379 by AKOCOA::DOUGAN >>>
    
>>    I'm not sure of the protocol in this note.  Is one actually meant to
>>    answer the question?

Yes, and it occasionally even happens! :-)
    
>>    Clinical thermometers (the old kind with mercury or some other liquid,
>>    not the digital read-out type or the things they stick in your ear and
>>    pull the trigger) have a constriction near the bulb so that when the
>>    liquid expands it gets forced up the tube.  When it's then
>>    removed from the patient the liquid stays at it's hottest level so it
>>    can be read and noted at leisure.  To get it ready for another reading
>>    the liquid has to be forced back into the bulb.  The best way to do
>>    that is to shake it back.

I realize how you're supposed to use them, I'm wondering why the mercury doesn't
get sucked back down the tube just like other mercury thermometers.  After all,
as the mercury cools it contracts and you'd think that the contraction would
decrease its volume, causing the mercury to retreat into the bulb.  I don't see
how a constriction at the base would prevent this, unless the amount of force
exerted by the expalnding mercury is significanly less than the force exerted by
its contraction.

I wonder if the mercury's vapor pressure in the evacuated section of the
thermometer has something to do with it...

                              Roak

    Nope, it's the moon's attraction, as discussed in earlier notes in this
    string.  DO try to keep up.
    
    |-{:-)
    

    
    It's hard to say how attractive the moon is tonight, cuz it's way
    cloudy.

    .381
    
    Here I was trying to show off my wisdom and the question is really much
    deeper than I expected.
    
    The force of expansion is very great (the best analogy I can think of
    is the force of freezing water, which can break an engine block for
    example) and forces the mercury past the obstruction.  On contraction
    the only thing that would encourage the mercury to go back down is
    surface tension, gravity and pressure.  I guess the constriction is sized to
    break the column.  Vapor pressure in both ends of the tube will be equal.
    It wont fall under gravity because the surface tension at the
    constriction is great enough to hold up the column (I think :-)
    
    Now let me ask one: Why is the night dark?  Would be very grateful if
    someone could explain this in easy language.  
    

    
    Cuz the sun is on the other side of the world?

RE: 15.384 by AKOCOA::DOUGAN

> Why is the night dark?  

Because the Universe is expanding.


Phil

    Darkness is the absence of light.  Night is not totally dark as there
    is some residual light that hits the earth from distant bodies such as
    stars and planets even under cloud cover.  So, night is near dark
    sometimes but never totally dark.  HTH.  

    <- Sheesh...

    Why isn't a light switch called a darkness switch?

    why does a dog have armpits if it sweats through its tongue?
    
    -Carlton Blanchard

    Why do you have a tongue?

    To lick stamps :*)

    "do you have a tongue?" and a very talented one i've been told.
    
     thanks for your interest!
    
     Chip

    STAMPS......hahahahahaha

    
    
    Did you know that licking a stamp has 6 calories?!?!
    
    
    
    :*)
    Terrie
    

    
    
    	oh my.....you must play alot of trivial pursuit....;*)
    
    

| <<< Note 15.395 by NETCAD::WOODFORD "I think I'll stop Counting Now....." >>>



| Did you know that licking a stamp has 6 calories?!?!


	Same as a Tic Tac, huh???? 

    
    The Tic-Tac lady on the television says they only have 1.5 calories.
    
    Is she lying?

| <<< Note 15.398 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of WarmMoistRogering" >>>


| The Tic-Tac lady on the television says they only have 1.5 calories.
| Is she lying?

	In her last commercial she was sitting doing Yoga. 

	How many calories when you lick..........Oh never mind....%^)

    	How many calories does one burn while licking a stamp.

    tic tac lady is Mark Harmon's sister...
    
    Chip

    and she belongs in the most boinkable celeb note too IMO,
    yessireebobarooney.  
    
    

    .403, .404
    
    me me me i want to see wot she looks like  !!!
    we don't get the ad :-(
    
    ric$sicko

    Brian's correct... most boinkable, indeed. sorry you don't get the
    add. she has that... something.
    
    Chip

    Not my type....

| <<< Note 15.407 by MAIL1::CRANE >>>


| Not my type....



	ditto.... but still very good looking...

    8-p

    > she has that... something.
    
    Huge tracts of land?

    No, not that but as Chip say, there is definitely something there....
    

    
    lots of stock in Microsoft??
    
    Mark

    >she has that... something.
    
     That "I need a good rogering" look. ;-)

Wasn't the Tic Tac gal (Kelly Harmon?) married
to John DeLorean at some point?

Joanne - the fountain of useless information

    
    Good to see you got out of the tub to come to work, Joanne 8^).
    

The fountain got out of the tub?  That's....Zen-like.

 I thought the tic tac lady was married to Rick Nelson?

Has anyone told her he was killed in a plane crash?

 hopefully...I did say "was" married..





Jim

Mz_Deb....  out of the tub to de-prune the skin and maybe
have some scrambled eggs, then right back in.   ;^)  ;^)

    
    I have a free evening, and I think that's my destination tonight...8^)

 I've got a cold...what should I take for it tonight (other than 
 Nyquil..



 Jim

    Chicken soup, hot tea.  For OTC medications, I choose Drixoral for a
    decongestant.  Clears me up so I can sleep.  

    Jim, this is your chance to call men "miss".

    
    Jim:  Vitamin C, and lots of it.  Start with 2000mg tonight.  You want
    your urine to darken; if it doesn't, take more tomorrow morning and
    continue increasing morning and night til it does.  Drink extra water as 
    (a) the C will make you thirsty and (b) you excrete any excess in your 
    urine.  If you develop diarrhea, take less. 

    Re: .417
    
    >I thought the tic tac lady was married to Rick Nelson?
    
    No, that would be her sister.

    Yes, she's the tic toc lady.

    >Jim, this is your chance to call men "miss".
    
    I got it...
    
    "Why did you call me miss?"
    
    "I'm sorry. I have a cold"
    
    -b

 .426



 I wound up being intrigued by a package of Nyquil that one mixes with 
 hot water..normally Nyquil has no effect on me.  Not so the powdered 
 variety...hit the pillow..next thing I knew it was time to get up..

 Feel a bit groggy today

 re .429


 Well, it must be the Nyquil cuz I still don't get it :-/


 Speaking of Nyquil...has anybody ever seen the routine some comedian 
 does on Nyquil?  I see it once in a while on Comedy Central..pretty
 funny..

>> Speaking of Nyquil...has anybody ever seen the routine some comedian 
>> does on Nyquil?  I see it once in a while on Comedy Central..pretty
>> funny..

	i think of it every time someone mentions the stuff. 

 years ago somebody did a bluesy tune about Nyquil..




 Jim

Not the Nyquil, Jim.  We need to send you a tape
of a Monty Python sketch to clear this up.

By the way, my cold-cure recommendation is for
you to stay in tonight and watch MST3K tonite at
7:00.  It's the "best of" on Friday evenings, and
last week they replayed "The Atomic Brain."

joanne

 
>>7:00.  It's the "best of" on Friday evenings, and
>>last week they replayed "The Atomic Brain."

	what's the one about the disembodied head?  have you 
	seen that one?

"The Atomic Brain" is the one where a wealthy
old woman hires a scientist to transplant her
brain into the body of an attractive young woman.

During the course of perfecting his technique,
he puts a cat's brain one into one of the young
ladies ("What does he do, wad cotton around it so
it doesn't rattle around?").

In the end, he puts her brain into a cat (not sure
how this is supposed to work, size-wise, either!)

During the credits, Mike Nelson says "Shame on 
you!" when the director's name is displayed.

    Has MST3K shown the "brain" movie (there are several such things)
    that features flying brains with attached spinal columns (including
    vertabrae) and nerve "tentacles" flailing around in the breeze?
    I think it's called "The Brain Eaters", but I may be mixing up
    my brain movies.
    
    This was the first movie I saw that really scared me, way back
    in the olden days.  They used stop-motion and other effects in a
    very effective way, at least for its day.
    
    Chris

>Not the Nyquil, Jim.  We need to send you a tape
>of a Monty Python sketch to clear this up.


Oh :-}


>By the way, my cold-cure recommendation is for
>you to stay in tonight and watch MST3K tonite at
>7:00.  It's the "best of" on Friday evenings, and
>last week they replayed "The Atomic Brain."


  If I get home in time, I'll watch it..which reminds me, I have a couple
  episodes on tape that I haven't watched yet.



 Jim

    Re: .431
    
    >has anybody ever seen the routine some comedian does on Nyquil?
    
    John Pinette.  "I _am_ heavy equipment!"

RE:            <<< Note 15.439 by OOTOOL::CHELSEA "Mostly harmless." >>>

       
   > >has anybody ever seen the routine some comedian does on Nyquil?
    
   > John Pinette.  "I _am_ heavy equipment!"


   Is that the guy's name?  I gotta get that one on tape..

    John Pinette is a scream!!!! I love it when he talks about going
    to the buffet at a Chinese restaurant, or when he diets for
    several weeks and a Girl Scout shows up at his door selling
    cookies... "Oh, I think you're going to win the trip to Washington
    Dear!"
    
    -b

     Yup. And the bit about Jaws. The bread lines in Moscow. Definitely a
    funny guy.

    I'm looking for a way to contact the AP, or to react on the Net to the
    content of that posting.  Ad Vissers & I chatted last week and he
    wisely suggested that there may well be a USENET newsgroup wherein
    either those feeds are discussed, or an AP WebServer, or an EMail
    address for them...?
    
    Tnx, Dan
    

I would suggest you not do so, or at least not mention where you read
the article.

The AP reacts vigorously when they find out that their articles have
been posted to places where they are not getting royalties.

/john

    Tnx for the tip, /john!
    

    
    
    Anybody know someone who does custom leather work in the Southern N.H.
    area?
    
      I need a leather carrying strap fixed/modified...
    

    Sure you do.

    >I need a leather carrying strap fixed/modified...
    
    
     Ooh, er.

    
    I bought a custom made mahogany gun case last year and the strap is too
    short.... I can modify the brackets holding it, but the strap on there
    now is custom made... ergo the need for another custom job...
    
     As for those prior inquiring "minds", if I'd wanted something else,
    I'd ask....

Shouldn't you have had it made right the first time? :-)

					-K-

    
    <---------
    
     Shoulda been more specific.... it was a used case from an estate
    sale... I bought it as is...
    
    :)
    

    In doing some early Spring housecleaning yesterday, I came across some
    Time magazines from 20 years ago.  Sure enough when I picked one up,
    one of those subscription postcards fell out.
    
    Anyway it offered to let me subscribe to Time for 25 an issue, max of
    100 issues.  No expiration date for the offer appeared on the card.
    
    $25 for two years of Time.  What do you think my chances are of getting
    Time to honor this obligation?
    
    -- Jim

    CAll them and ask?? Let us know if they do.

RE: 15.453

About a year ago some man did that with a Reader's Digest card that was
from the thirties. They wrote back and said they weren't honoring that
offer anymore. He happened to write for Smithsonian Magazine and he got
a whole back page to write about that. Reader's Digest decided they had
made a mistake and sent him another letter to say they had started his
cheap subscription. The worst that can happen is they say no, so you
should try it if you really want to read Time.

					-K-

    >$25 for two years of Time.  What do you think my chances are of getting
    >Time to honor this obligation?
    
     Who cares? The worst that can happen is they accept the subscription
    at that price, and you're out $25. If you're lucky, they'll balk and
    you can keep your money.
    

    
    Anyone watch "House of Buggin"? I think thats the name.
    Was on Fox last nite.
    
    The skit with the gang from West side story meeting a modern gang
    was a riot!

	Where did the BRUINS notesfile go to?

    Doesn't matter...the 1972 Bruins were the greatest team of all time. 
    All other teams in the NHL throughout history are moot!

	Thanks jack, you're oh so helpful.... :-)  so does anyone know where
the Bruins notesfile went to?

    Yes...Derek, Pie Face, Chief, Billy Speer...and Cry Baby Brad Park in a
    New York Rangers Jersey!!!!
    
    New York Ranger fans...the scum of the world!!!!

    The 75-76 Montreal Canadiens only lost 8 games. 141 points on the
    season. By far the best team ever. They swept the Stanley Cup champion
    Flyers to win the first of 4 cups in a row.

re: .458,.460 (Glen)

See note 2.* in TURRIS::EASYNET_CONFERENCES

"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day..."

No need to thank me.
\john

| No need to thank me.

	Ok, I won't.....

  >>      The 75-76 Montreal Canadiens only lost 8 games. 141 points on the
  >>      season. By far the best team ever. They swept the Stanley Cup
  >>      champion Flyers to win the first of 4 cups in a row.
    
    Makes no diff.  The 1972 Bruins had more depth than the 76 Canadians.
    You had 6 of the top ten goal scorers on the Bruins that year.  The
    depth of Orr skating and Sandersons skating/stick handling has been
    unmatched to date.  
    
    By the way, the reason Gretsky's stats are so profoundly great is
    because the NHL is now a consortium of hacks and losers.  Too much
    expansion.  
    
    And by the way, the New York Ranger fans are still the scum of the
    world...but the Flyer fans are a close second!
    
    -Jack

	yeah Jack, that Gretsky has no talent whatsoever..... 

    Jack your a typical Bruins fan.

    don't forget Dallas Smith!

    HEY.....You Leave Dallas Smith Alone!!!  Same goes for Gary Doak!

    
    Ranger fans are bad?
    
    A number of years ago, I bought two tickets to a Bruins-Flyers game.
    They were a present from me to my best friend who grew up in Philly...
    
     He made the mistake of wearing his Flyer hat, and I made the mistake
    of wearing my Yankees jacket. Never saw a worse bunch of animals trying
    to pick a fight (3/4 of them drunk no less)...
    
       After the game (which Philly won, btw and the 'fans' were none too
    pleased), we were accosted outside by 6 or so of these pathetic
    creatures.... Woulda had the snot beat out of us except my friend was
    packing a 9mm Smith & Wesson... (he was a cop)...
    
      Yep.... real nice "fans"...
    

    Oh....I never said the Bruins fans held the corner on virtue.
    
    I merely stated the fact that the Ranger fans were the scum of the
    world and the flyers fans were a close second!!
    
    -Jack

    
    
    I would say there's a dead heat between New York, Philly and Boston in
    that dept.
    

    One word: Hockey

    coulda just as easy hung a kick-me sign on your backs...
    
    Chip

    
    
    Yep... realized that afterwards...
    

| <<< Note 15.473 by SOLVIT::KRAWIECKI "Zebras should be seen and not herd" >>>



| I would say there's a dead heat between New York, Philly and Boston in
| that dept.

	But Andy, in Boston the fans are just hatefull towards the players! :-)

    re .461, JMartin -- YEAH, my wife refused to go into labor with our
    younger daughter until da Broonz were safely in the Stanley Cup Finals.
    
    Now *that* wuz a TEAM.
    
    I, for one, have never seen the point of Wayne Gretzky.  Bobby ORRR!!!!!!
                                                                   

    I know you older Bruins fans will have trouble with this but, the
    players today are bigger and faster and stronger.

    They are not, however, tougher.

C'mon Glenn, let us have our memories.

The 1972 Bruins got me to loving and playing
hockey.  (And I went thru school, alphabetically,
with John Bucyk's daughter and rode the bus with
Dallas Smith's kids, which didn't hurt either.)

joanne (auman) jensen, next seat over from
joanne bucyk.

    I still love hearing the Nutrocker.

    
    
    Anyone know of a conference where the participants might help with a
    technical problem/situation in regards to a stereo system that has
    remote microphones attached?
    
      Thanks...
    

    vaxwrk::audio or drivme::audio_engineering

    
    
    Ok, this really is a serious question, so please be kind.
    I was just told by an associate that pigs have cork screw
    shaped penises.  Is this TRUE?!?!?!
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    	Pigs don't have penises.  They have sausages.

    
    But, are they corkscrew shaped???
    
    
    
    
    :*)
    

	Terrie wants to open a bottle of wine I see...

    
    No, but my husband thinks he's married to someone that
    works with a bunch of them.....:*)
    
    
    Terrie
    

    HEEEELLLP !!!
    
    I know this is like a really boring question... but, I need to know
    what the part number is for SQL WKG WNT MCD PKG formally QB-2UEAA-WA.
    
    Has the part been discontinued ? Does it come with something else ?
    What is going on ??? Everybody here is ignorant or stupid (personally
    I think it's the 's' word).

    My wife's company is looking a bit shaky & she's beginning to think
    about moving on.  We live in Natick, right near COGNEX and the former
    Prime Park, now the new home of Boston Scientific.
    
    Does anyone have contacts within either of those firms that she could
    call for some networking assistance?  No pressure on them, she'd just
    ask some background info, who to call next, etc...
    
    I know that Teekema just left to be something like IS Director of
    Boston Scientific.  Anyone have a forwarding address for him?
    
    Tnx, Dan
    

    
    
    
    Terrie,
    
    Yes that is a fact.  
    
    
    RE: .490  ::DAVISM
    
    
    This still shows as a valid part number at a cost of $2395 (SMART
    pricebook FY95 Q3).  
    
    

    	I show QB-2UEAA-WA as being 'Maintenance Only'.
	Last MLP/CLP was $2,395.
	
	Jay

Not only do pigs have corkscrew-shaped penises, they also ejaculate a pint of
semen at a time.

    
    
    Thank you all for your 'informed' info on this subject.
    The person who told me this brought in an article today
    to substantiate his comments.  Rather interesting....
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    Do pigs have nipples?

    rhinoceras ones are quite wonderful as well
    
    ric

    
    
    Actually, in my research last evening, I also found that
    cats have a sharp, hard, hook on the end of theirs, that
    actually hurts the female when removed.  This is why if you 
    happen to see this going on, you will hear a loud howl at
    the completion, and the female cat will turn and take a 
    swat at the male cat.
    
    
    Fact....not fiction.
    Terrie
    

According to Cat Fancy magazine, the barb is thought to stimulate ovulation.

Bob

    .499
    
    i thought the pain did stimulate ovulation as when they shagged a queen
    in a lab with a dildo without the pain, she didn't ovulate
    
    mind you it could be she didn't like the circumstances !! which would
    hardly be surprising.
    
    ric

    
    Terrie:  you sure that shouldn't be "fact...not friction"?
                                       

>    i thought the pain did stimulate ovulation as when they shagged a queen
>    in a lab with a dildo without the pain, she didn't ovulate

However, the pain isn't necessary to end heat; cat care guides give instruction
on ending a female cat's heat with a Q-Tip.

/john

    uh-b-b-bleah.

>    i thought the pain did stimulate ovulation as when they shagged a queen
>    in a lab with a dildo without the pain, she didn't ovulate
    
    Wait a minute! I thought we were talking about cats here! :-)
    
    -b

Anyone want my lunch?  I'm not hungry anymore.

If anyone needs me, I'll be over in the corner,
cowering.

    who took the Queen's name in vain?

Leave it to those limeys to bring in the royal family!

    hey gerald, who u callin' slimey?

| <<< Note 15.494 by NOTIME::SACKS "Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085" >>>



| Not only do pigs have corkscrew-shaped penises, they also ejaculate a pint of
| semen at a time.


	Does it come out looking like rotini???

| <<< Note 15.498 by NETCAD::WOODFORD "I think I'll stop Counting Now....." >>>



| Fact....not fiction.

	I really thought it said, Fact....not friction.  sigh...

| <<< Note 15.502 by COVERT::COVERT "John R. Covert" >>>



| However, the pain isn't necessary to end heat; cat care guides give instruction
| on ending a female cat's heat with a Q-Tip.

	Gives a whole new meaning to, "A little dab will do you..."

| <<< Note 15.505 by SUBPAC::JJENSEN "Jojo the Fishing Widow" >>>


| If anyone needs me, I'll be over in the corner, cowering.

	Stay away from those Q-tips

    
    Rotating a q-tip!
    
    I'm with you, Joanne.  I feel vaguely nauseous 8^p.

    I realize that you 'muricans call us (superior race) Britts Limeys.
    But, what the hell is a limey ?????????

>    I realize that you 'muricans call us (superior race) Britts Limeys.
>    But, what the hell is a limey ?????????

You don't know why the English are called Limeys?

The Royal Navy (specifically Naval Surgeon James Lind, a Scotsman) figured out
in 1753 that ingesting limes, lemons, and oranges would prevent scurvy.

So the term "limey" is actually an acknowledgment of our (in 1753 we were
still "we") superiority.

/john

    
    
    I prefer Pom.

    
    
    	I prefer getting rogered...
    
    

    
    
    I'm sure he'll be pleased to hear that..... .;')
    
    
    
    Mike

    is it me, or are a lot of noters evolving into euro-speak?
    
    Chip

    
    
    	just a wee bit....;*) Besides, if I were to use the American
    version of rogering in here, I'd be set hidden...:)
    
    

    
    HA!!!

| <<< Note 15.516 by GRANPA::MWANNEMACHER "Space for rent" >>>



| I prefer Pom.


	I'll take 2 of those!

    it's errr POME
    
    Prisoner Of Mother England

	Ummmm....this is so embarassing....

	Our babysitter/friend of the family has just turned 21, she
	would like to go to a club that features male exotic dancers
	(Hey, she's 21!)  - anyone know of any in the Southern 
	NH/Northern Mass area???  


	Pat

    
    Um, I've heard of this place called the Golden Banana, but have never
    been there.  Does it still exist?
    
    I've never been there, really.  Never.  Honestly.

    Any dancers named Bob Dole at the Golden Banana?

    
    Is it possible to reverse the bolding whilst editing an All In One
    document?  I mean, without retyping the whole thing?

    Select the document (go to the top of the document, hit the "."
    (SELECT) key on the number keypad, then do a GOLD B(ottom).  Then hit 
    GOLD 6.  THis action will delete all of the bolding in a document. 
    GOLD 6, then using the word, page, line keys will unbold only that
    range.
    
    Try it on a sample document first.
    
    Dan

    
    YES!  YES!  IT WORKED!
    
    Thank you, Dan!

    .-1
    
    wow you certainly hit her hot buttons
    
    ric

    
    I just heard a John Covert paged here in ACI, is John in Chicago
    today?? If so I hope he stops by to say Hi!
    
    Mark

I'm not in Chicago.

    	But they want you there...

    Re: .524
    
    We took a friend to "Men in Motion" for her bachelor party.  I think
    they're at a club in Saugus.

    >We took a friend to "Men in Motion" for her bachelor party.  I think
    >they're at a club in Saugus.
    
    I once wrote an instrumental called "Man In Motion" that was the
    commissioned as the theme for a TV Football talk show... the show
    never got picked up though so no one would recognize the tune...
    but the song was pretty upbeat and danceable and you may have given
    me an idea for someone I could sell it to... Thanks!!! :-)
    
    -b

	I know a couple of clubs that might be interested.... :-)

I don't wish to be found knowledgeable about the
subject of Male Exotic Dancers, but I do believe
that Matthew's (Area's Finest Entertainment) in
Tyngsboro (Middlesex Road, about a mile south of
Pheasant Lane Mall) has "Ladies Night" on a regular
basis.

joanne  (who only knows this because I drive *past*
	 the place on a regular basis on my way to
	 PLM)

P.S.  Glen -- You think Quest or The Barracks would
	      be interested in Brian's song????

| <<< Note 15.537 by SUBPAC::JJENSEN "Jojo the Fishing Widow" >>>


| joanne  (who only knows this because I drive *past* the place on a regular 
| basis on my way to PLM)

	Uh huh.... and PLM is????? (Pulsating Lucious Men)

| P.S.  Glen -- You think Quest or The Barracks would be interested in Brian's 
| song????

	Brians song is a movie Joanne. But they might like that Men in Motion
song! 

	Where is the Barracks???? Never heard of that place?


Glen

    slut.

    
    
    Brian's Song is a song as well, Glen.  One of the two I can play on the
    pianer. :')
    
    

	Who????

Glen!!!!

Hmmm, aren't there two bars next to each other on
Boylston Street, sort of across from WBCN? 

joanne (who only knows this because I stop at
	White Hen Pantry on my way to and from
	Fenway Park)

    
    
    yeah, right...... :')

| <<< Note 15.542 by SUBPAC::JJENSEN "Jojo the Fishing Widow" >>>


| Hmmm, aren't there two bars next to each other on Boylston Street, sort of 
| across from WBCN?

	Ohhh... you're talking about the Ram Rod. Ok.... I know where that is!

| joanne (who only knows this because I stop at White Hen Pantry on my way to 
| and from Fenway Park)

	Uhhh.... Joanne, after the games at Fenway we would go to that
McDonalds right next door to Quest all the time. I didn't know they were gay
bars. We even went into White Hen a lot too. Hmm...... did you go into a wrong
door sometime???? :-)

    I'll try and dig up a tape of that song Glen. What you suggest was not
    what I had in mind when I wrote it, but well... I know of a lot of
    songs that had a gay bar following that pushed them to the Billboard
    charts (a couple of Madonna tunes, for instance), so why not! I'll send
    a copy to my college roommate too...
    
    It is very danceable, but I don't know how an instrumental would
    fly. Maybe I should hire some real stud-muffin football player type
    guys, write some lyrics, and do a video "for the ladies" (wink wink).
    
    -b

	Ohhh Brian.... you ever so straight friend of mine!!! You definitely
haven't been in a gay bar before. They play a lot of intrumentals in there. In
fact, the songs that people know get a lot of mixes in them to keep em going.
Kind of makes it sound a little techno....

Glen

Listen, I'm telling you, I'm a pure, innocent,
naive sort of person who just *hears* about
things, that's all!    8^)

	errr.... how did you hear about the inside of these places joanne???

    Re: .538
    
    >Uh huh.... and PLM is?????
    
    Pheasant Lane Mall.  About the only salacious aspect of which is that
    their old sign used to look like someone mooning you....

	I like my description better... but of course the word slut followed my
reply.... :-0

    
    joanne, innocent and pure???  i don't thinq so...you know about the
    bathroom... :> :>
    
    but, to baq her up, i, too, have only HEARD of matthew's...they
    advertise it a lot (or used) on one of the radio stations i listen to.
    
    (and for the record, i have been to quest...even inside it...on a gay
    nite...great, danceable music...but it got rather depressing to know
    that my old roommie kenny had a better shot with any of the guys in
    there than i did...)
    
    

But seriously, now, I think I found about the
two gay bars when the owners were trying to get
a permit to also open steambaths.  The Globe
had an article about it.

I'd been walking by those places for years and
never gave them a second thought.

I did enjoy the mega volcano float that was parked
outside after last year's gay pride parade,
though.  *That* was a hoot.

joanne (now wondering when baseball will get its
	act together...   :(

    Well, 'tis true I'm as straight as a ruler my amigo, but I have, in
    fact, been in several gay bars.
    
    First, I went to a bar in Worcester called the "Male Box". Then I went
    to a bar in Boston with my friend that I can't recall the name of; it's
    west of Copley near Berklee and was pretty heavy "leather". And...
    I went with the same friend to Metro on "gay night" (sunday night I
    believe). The November Group (lesbians) were playing that night and
    they were awesome!!!! We had a great time, especially checking out
    the cross-dressers. Last time I visited my friend in DC, he also
    took me to a "social club" that was gay. Lots of congress-critters
    hang out there (he works for the Library of Congress now).
    
    -b

    P.S. I can recall the name of my friend: Jim, it's the name of the bar
    I couldn't recall...
    
    -b

I wonder if I should take my dad for a stroll
down Boylston Street and see if this internal
gay-o-meter he claims to have is for real?

    If it is, the damn thing would be pegged!

Nah, prolly shouldn't do it.  I'd hate to be
responsible for him going up in spontaneous
combustion or one of those Russian-style
head explosions.

Oh well, so much for this weekend's plans.

| <<< Note 15.557 by MPGS::MARKEY "Wewease Woger!" >>>

| If it is, the damn thing would be pegged!


	Bundy???


	The only place I can think of that would come close to your description
about leather in that part of town would be a place called the Eagle. Fritz,
the other bar in that area, really isn't into leather. :-)


Glen

    Glen,
    
    We're talking 1981, 1982 maybe...
    
    Besides leather, there were also a few real-live narcissists. People
    make jokes about being narcissistic, but there's nothing like seeing a
    guy standing front of a mirror and wrapping his arms around himself and
    telling himself how gorgeous he is and how he'd like to, ahem, boink
    himself. Not the kind of thing you see at the 99, for example! :-)
    
    And my reference to "pegged". A meter is "pegged" when it tries to
    exceed the maximum value that it can read... so a "gay meter" on
    Boylston street would like peg... especially when Mark Parenteau
    gets off work... :-) :-) :-)
    
    -b

	Brian, you're a RIOT!Between you and Joanne, I'm giving up drinking
anything at my terminal! :-)


Glen

	Why do I always get an "ERROR Requested document could not be 
accessed.  The information either is not accessible or it is refusing 
to serve the document to you" when I try to run MOSAIC on my VMS 
machine (sat. node) - and yet can run it just fine from my PC?????


Pat

    
    
    	If you're in a hidden area, maybe it can't reach outside?
    
    
    

	Jim, what if the hidden area you're in IS outside???? :-)

    
    Wanted:
    
    Temporary moderator (approx. 1 month), possibly leading to a permanent
    position :)
    
    Familiarity with Notes commands preferable.
    
    Willing to take and/or absorb abuse... :)
    
    Feel free to call or write anytime.

> Not the kind of thing you see at the 99, for example!

Perhaps, then there _IS_ a god . . . 

    
    IMHO -In my humble opinion...
    
    TYVM - Thank you very much...
    
    NNTTM - No need to thank me...
    
    
    What the heck is "OFWAMI"????
    

Oh <r.o.>! What a Miserable Idiot!

???

I think Jack's on to something!

(Someone asked that question in DIGITAL, and the
 owner hasn't provided the answer.)

    I asked, he answered in mail.  I gather that one isn't spozed to spill
    this fellah's beanz in public.  Thought he didn't tell me not to do
    so...
     
    So if yer curious, I could be persuaded!
    
    |-{:-)
    
    (which by the bye means "PhonePole, LadderRung, C-Clamp, DualPlug,
    LadderRung, DrawnBow")
                         

    
    Did we ever figure out who the Rev Dr Tildeverticalbarbracebracebrace
    was?

The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

/john

    
    Modem noise, sure, sure 8^).

                                 obsnitsively.