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1958.1 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Liquor and Poker | Tue Sep 11 1990 08:49 | 2 |
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I thought DS split up.
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1958.2 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Joke 'em if they can't take a ... | Tue Sep 11 1990 10:21 | 4 |
| Well, even if they did split up - anything he puts out will sound like
Dire Straits. He *was* that band ..
Scary (who still get's a rise when he plays "Sultans Of Swing" !
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1958.3 | | SCARGO::GOODWIN | | Tue Sep 11 1990 12:49 | 3 |
| I think he's playing in a new band now... The Notting Hillbillies.
Steve
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1958.4 | D.S. album possible? | GLASS::ALLBERY | Jim | Tue Sep 11 1990 13:41 | 9 |
| My guess is the Notting Hillbillies are a one-shot deal... just
something he wanted to do with some friends.
Musician magazine had a brief (one-page) interview with Mr. Knofler a
few months back, and I seem to recall that he discussed some ideas for
a new Dire Straits album. This suprised me, since I too was under the
impression that D.S. were now defunct.
Jim
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1958.5 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Liquor and Poker | Tue Sep 11 1990 14:26 | 9 |
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>> Well, even if they did split up - anything he puts out will sound like
>> Dire Straits. He *was* that band ..
Yo Scary, listen to the Notting Hillbillies (or however you spell
it) as mentioned previously. It sounds *nothing* like Dire Straits!
Cheers,
-Tony
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1958.6 | | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | OK...Who turned on the lights? | Tue Sep 11 1990 17:58 | 8 |
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Mark does a little guitar work on "Love you to Much" on Jef
Healey's new album "Hell to Pay"... I've got to say Knopler's work is
the high spot of the album for me... I loved Healey's first "See the
Light" but I'm not crazy about his second... (except Mark's incredible
tone)... how the hell does he do that?
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1958.7 | some info | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | | Wed Sep 12 1990 02:15 | 11 |
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The tone is "out of phase" middle switch setting on five pos switch.
The Notting hillbillies album came about because Mark used to play a
around the clubs with Steve Phillips(one of the guys on the album)
He originally was just going to produce the album but ended up
contributing an original track and playing guitar on other tracks.
Knophler did say at the Knebworth concert that he definately was going
to do another album.
<by the way did any of you guys catch the tour he did with clapton.
Unfortunately they didn't come to Australia.
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1958.8 | | LANDO::ROSENSTEIN | MSB Engineering, 293-5161 | Wed Sep 12 1990 18:31 | 6 |
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They're still together. I think there album is planned for April of
1991.
Tom
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1958.9 | dislexia | CHEFS::IMMSA | adrift on the sea of heartbreak | Thu Sep 13 1990 12:02 | 7 |
| As a rat hole, could we run a competition to see who can spell Mark's
surname correctly.
My contribution - Knopfler.
andy
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1958.10 | | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | OK...Who turned on the lights? | Fri Sep 14 1990 13:23 | 4 |
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I'll go with Knofflower...
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1958.11 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Liquor and Poker | Fri Sep 14 1990 13:40 | 4 |
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Knobblers.
(The 'n' is silent 8^) ).
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1958.12 | semantics | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | | Mon Sep 17 1990 03:01 | 4 |
| The spelling is knopfler
P.K.
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1958.13 | | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | OK...Who turned on the lights? | Mon Sep 17 1990 11:44 | 4 |
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I'd capitalize the "K"... Z'anyone know what knopfler means in
Russian?? Same as Kimosabe, I think!
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1958.14 | 8^) | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Joke 'em if they can't take a ... | Tue Sep 18 1990 03:36 | 3 |
| I'm just call him Mark ...
Scary
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1958.15 | Tone loco | ISLNDS::KELLY | | Wed Sep 19 1990 21:36 | 11 |
| re .7: on a five position switch on a Strat, there's two out of
phase positions: 2 and 4. 3 is all p/u's on.
As for getting that tone, which one are we talking about? I think
of two distintly different tones: the sound he used on the early
albums e.g 'Sultans' and a more recent crunchy sound e.g that killer
start to 'Money For Nothing'. He uses fingers only, no picks.
I've seen him use Soldano heads on Marshall cabinets when touring
recently (last three years)...maybe the crunch is in the amplification?
IMHO, tone's in your fingers.
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1958.16 | Marks geat | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | | Thu Sep 20 1990 02:42 | 5 |
| The first album was recorded using a three pos switch on a 60's strat.
The money for nothing riff was played using a Les Paul although live
he sometimes uses a steinberger headless. I have the details of
what amps ,string gauges , guitars he uses in an interview in
GP magazine I'll post it if your interested.
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1958.17 | | MALLET::BARKER | Pretty Damn Cosmic | Thu Sep 20 1990 10:35 | 6 |
| I've never actually seen him live but seen him quite a bit on video
e.g. the Nelson Mandela birthday concert. I was strcuk by how many different
guitars he used, it seemed like a different one for almost every song. Maybe
the tone isn't all in the fingers!
Nigel
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1958.18 | I beg to differ.. | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | OK...Who turned on the lights? | Fri Sep 21 1990 13:01 | 14 |
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.15 I'm going to differ with you (in a friendly way) Standard Strat
wiring does not include a switch position that turns ALL the pickups
on, the middle psotion selects the middle pick-up only. And even
though positions 2 and 4 are sometimes referred to as being out of
phase N to S and S to N, they are not.. they get that great sound
because of the pickups being mixed together... The "K" guy Knopler??
used to get that tone by pushing his 3 position in between so that both
were selected.... IMHO pickups that are truly out of phase suck...
tone wise cause all the good stuff cancels out!
Steve
gray haired old fart
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1958.19 | | DUGGAN::SAKELARIS | | Fri Sep 21 1990 13:45 | 8 |
| Yep, Steve's right, including his feeling that out of phase sound sucks
on strats. I replaced the neck pickup on my strat with a DiMarzio and
mistakenly wired it so its out of phase with the middle when selected.
Its a real thin yucky sound. next time I change the strings, I gotta
open it up and reverse the polarity. Right now, that switch setting is
unuseable.
"sakman"
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1958.20 | Not Really! | HAMER::KRON | I'm the Amoral Minority! | Fri Sep 21 1990 18:26 | 15 |
| re: .18, .19;
out of phase pickups don't always necessarily suck;
the secret to getting a good sound (and this is true
of any pickup combo whether in/out of phase or whatever):
the pickup's position in relation to the bridge along
with the scale length determines the harmonic content
that the pickup will produce. So although the out of
phase sound on a stratocaster between pickups 1-2 or
2-3 may not sound good to your ear; if your guitar had
the physical position of the pickups slightly different,
the result would be drastically different. Unfortunately
you're locked into one place on a store bought guitar
unless you're not afraid of altering the stock setup.
-Bill
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1958.21 | Not good on the one I had either | GOES11::G_HOUSE | | Fri Sep 21 1990 18:56 | 6 |
| I had a guitar once that had a switch that I was told put the two
pickups in or out of phase with each other. I never liked the out of
phase setting. Like someone described, real thin and whiney, just a
sick kind of sound.
Greg
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1958.22 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Joke 'em if they can't take a ... | Fri Sep 21 1990 23:56 | 4 |
| The only positions I use on my Standard is the "out-of-phase" sounding
2 and 4 positions ... just my preference I guess ...
Scary
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1958.23 | | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | OK...Who turned on the lights? | Sun Sep 23 1990 01:15 | 21 |
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Yeah, I like to chunk along in the middle then streak (ummmmm, well
at least, plod quickly) into my solo between the bridge and middle
marvelous sound... how would you guys describe it in words.. Anyone
who can do it without using the words MELLOW, FULL or the cliche' OUT
OF PHASE wins a free GreveMasters CD!
.20 Oh yeah it sounds great if youetest bass and treble tones!!! P
Middle tones are a curse!!!! My humble and friendly opinion...
DO THIS! DO NOT DO THIS!
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[;^Q
Of course.. with a Q
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1958.24 | dire straits??? | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | do it in dubly | Fri Jun 21 1991 02:02 | 6 |
| Anyone heard anything about the new Dire Straits record coming out.
They are doing a world tour to support it starting in Ireland in
July. They are going to play Australia in Sep. Last time they
played here they did 13 nights in my town and 21 nights in Sydney!!!
P.K
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1958.25 | September for album release | QRYCHE::STARR | Spontaneity has its time and place. | Fri Jun 21 1991 17:23 | 9 |
| The new Dire Straits album is scheduled to be release worldwide this
September. I don't know the exact date.
BTW, the sponsor for the Dire Straits world tour is Phillips/Magnavox, and
they are going to use it promote DCCs (Digital Compact Cassettes). Should
be interesting - it looks like the standard cassette format will soon
be outta here, the same way records were converted over to CDs.....
alan
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1958.26 | DCC vs DAT etc. | GLDOA::REITER | | Mon Jun 24 1991 13:48 | 11 |
| Re: .25 DCC Digital Compact Cassette
I know this deserves its own note if it goes any further, but I didn't
recall one in this conference...
when records were replaced by CD, there was no upward compatibility.
DAT offers none either. The nice thing about DCC is that, in addition
to being a digital technology (with all of those benefits), it is
designed to play your existing Compact Cassette format analog tapes.
Thus, DCC may abort the success of DAT for the home consumer market.
\Gary
PS - we should really start a new note if there's any further interest
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1958.27 | worth the wait? | SNOFS2::KNIGHTPETER | | Fri Aug 09 1991 02:20 | 16 |
| Well driving to work this morning ended a six year wait.
The dude says on the radio "coming up after 8 o'clock the new song
for Dire Straits. I nearly crashed the car.
The album is called "on every street" and the single is ........
....... Calling Elvis????????????. I listened to it and though I
have only heard it once I am very dissapointed. I am a die hard
straits fan and I didn't care much for it. I hope the rest of the
album is better.
The guy on the radio said they sold out their European tour in
4hrs!!!!! that's incredible. Have any of you dudes in Europe seen
any of the shows or heard the album.
P.K.
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1958.28 | Got it on Video last night | VOGON::CAIRNS | Alistair Cairns | Thu Aug 22 1991 11:51 | 15 |
| Last night, Channel 4 TV had a 15 slot where they proclaimed the
first full showing on British TV of the video for 'Calling Elvis'. They
also had some interviews with Mark and others involved in making this
epic.
As another long time Straits fan ( "bought the first album before they
were famous" ) I agree that the song is a change of direction. I found
it more in common with the Nottinghillbilly style than the great
Straits songs of past years. Sounded ok at the start, but I found the
music very repetative after a couple of minutes. Sort of 'Top 40'
style.
Let's hope the rest of the album has something more to offer.
Al
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1958.29 | 'On Every Street' out now! | BAHTAT::BELL | SWAS Leeds 845 2214 | Wed Sep 11 1991 11:02 | 35 |
| The new DS Album 'On Every Street' was released on Monday 9th Sept. I
got my copy through the post yesterday morning as a birthday present
from my brother-in-law. I have played the cassette through twice and I
like it. There is nothing that sticks out like "Money For Nothing' or
'Walk of Life' yet though I think that it is one of those albums that
will grow on you. There is a lot of subtle interplay of instruments,
MKs own guitar backed by pedal steel guitar, keyboards and sax. The
material is quite varied, ranging frome the heavy rock 'Heavy Fuel' to
some slow country style stuff reminisent of the Chet Atkins 'Neck and
Neck' LP. I like 'Calling Elvis' after hearing it a few times and I
also like 'Planet of New Orleans' which has some great haunting sax
work on it.
Re; The Tour.
By a great stroke of luck I was able to see DS play at the NEC Arena in
Birmingham (England) last Thursday (Sept 5th). I knew it was a sell out
but the venue has a new policy of keeping some tickets back to sell on
the day as a means of discouraging the touts. Anyway I got in on the
back row of the first block i.e. about 25 yards from the front of the
stage. The show started at 8:00pm with 'Calling Elvis'. this lasted
about 10 mins with lots of extended soloing from MK and the other
guitarists (The band has 9, MK, rythem guitar, bass, two keyboard
players, pedal steel guitar,sax and 2 drummers.) They then went into
'So Far Away' followed by 'Walk of Life'which really got the place
jumpin. I can't remember all the tracks but most of the big numbers
were there, 'Telegraph Road', 'Private Investigations','Sultans of
Swing', 'Romeo and Juliet' and others. They played two pieces from the
new album 'On Every Street' and 'Planet of New Orleans'. They did two
encores including 'Money for Nothing' and finished up at 10:20 with
'Solid Rock'. There was no support and no interval just solid Dire
Straits. They're back and how!!! This tour takes in the whole world so
everyone should find them playing somewhere near sometime.
Richard Bell
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1958.30 | Elvis is returning your call | LEDS::BURATI | Fender Bender | Wed Sep 11 1991 13:03 | 2 |
| I heard Calling Elvis an the radio a few days ago. I like it. I'll buy
it.
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1958.31 | | HAVASU::HEISER | the rock stomps here! | Wed Sep 11 1991 13:55 | 6 |
| I keep hearing this song on the radio that smacks of Knophler. It's a
real bluesy number that talks about the "...road to hell...". Is this
him, and if so, what album is it on?
Thanks,
Mike
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1958.32 | | KOAL::LAURENT | Hal Laurent, Loc: FOR, DTN: 378-6742 | Wed Sep 11 1991 14:28 | 7 |
| RE: .31
> I keep hearing this song on the radio that smacks of Knophler. It's a
> real bluesy number that talks about the "...road to hell...". Is this
> him, and if so, what album is it on?
It's Chris Rhea (sp?).
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1958.33 | ON my street | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | do it in dubly | Thu Sep 12 1991 02:20 | 11 |
| I got a copy of "on every street" and I was stoked. They have done
what they did with the last album. The rest of the album is quite
strong. Moving between Jazz to Rock. As always the production is
stunning and whats interesting is George Martin wrote and arranged
the strings.
Knophler has certainly stayed in the "neck to neck" vain.
Re: The fella who saw the concert:
Did they do anything off Communique?
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1958.34 | Don't know Communique | BAHTAT::BELL | SWAS Leeds 845 2214 | Thu Sep 12 1991 14:13 | 7 |
| I don't know what's on Communique so I can't say if they did it. There
were 3 or 4 numbers that I didn't recognise, the only albums I have are
'Dire Straits', 'Love over Gold' & 'Money for Nothing'. There was a
track with a very strong sax riff that was familiar but I couldn't put
a title to it.
Richard Bell
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1958.35 | | QRYCHE::STARR | Spontaneity has its time and place. | Thu Sep 12 1991 14:49 | 7 |
| > There was a track with a very strong sax riff that was familiar but I
> couldn't put a title to it.
If this was an instrumental, its probably "Going Home" from the 'Local Hero'
soundtrack. Its what the band traditionally uses as its closing theme....
alan
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1958.36 | Cud Be | BAHTAT::BELL | SWAS Leeds 845 2214 | Fri Sep 13 1991 09:49 | 3 |
| Yeah that could have been it.
Richard
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1958.37 | Live in Sheffield | WOTVAX::MORGALLA | Nick MORGALLA @OLO | Fri Oct 11 1991 07:14 | 23 |
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Richard,
What did you think of the sound? Saw the Straits at Sheffield
and thought the sound was pretty bad, but may have been the
venue.
They did not play 'Going Home' at Sheffield but according to an
interview Mark gave on Radio 1, they intended to vary the set
from gig to gig anyway.
Can't remember them playing anything from Communique though!
Apart from the sound, which was over loud and 'boomy', the band
played exceptionally well. Particularly liked the sax work of
Chris White ( but then that's my fave instrument after guitar ).
Got the feeling that it was Mark + backing musicians at times
though.
Like the new album, still growing on me.
Nick
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1958.38 | NEC Sounds fine. | BAHTAT::BELL | SWAS Leeds 845 2214 | Fri Oct 11 1991 09:56 | 7 |
| The sound at the NEC Arena was fine. I was about 25yds from the stage
in a direct line so I was in an excellent position. It was loud of
course but not uncomfortable. I saw Clapton in the same venue 2 years
ago and the sound was excellent then even though I was up at the side.
Maybe Sheffield need to do some work on the acoustics.
Richard
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1958.39 | Mark Knopfler / Dave Edmunds collaboration? | HLDE01::HIELKEMA_M | | Mon Mar 14 1994 11:19 | 13 |
| The Noteworthy Catalog mentiones a CD by Mark Knopfler and Dave Edmunds called
'The Booze Brothers : Brewers Droop'.
I have never seen this album or read anything about it.
Can anyone tell me what it's like?
Thanks
- Minne
Crossposted in CD and MUSIC
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1958.40 | Dunno but... | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | There's room for you inside | Mon Mar 21 1994 01:44 | 6 |
| Dont know about the CD
But Brewers Droop was a band Knophler played with in the early 70's
who were supposed to be big on the English club circuit.
P.K.
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1958.41 | It's O.K. ......but | MUGGER::MORGALLA | It ain't got that swing | Tue Mar 22 1994 04:52 | 23 |
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Got a copy of 'The Booze Brothers' a couple of years back. I guess it
was someone's idea to cash in on Mark's success. The front cover is
like Brothers In Arms, but with a droopy guitar........
Mark only plays on 3 or 4 numbers, and Dave Edmunds plays on a couple
more. It is not really a collaboration, more that both Dave and Mark
happened to be heavily involved in the London pub rock scene in the
early/mid 70's.
Neither the songs nor playing is memorable, though it is interesting
that you can just detect Mark's style developing......
I don't think Mark enjoyed playing in that band, he has said as much in
recent interviews.
Worth it is you are an out and out Knofler follower, but otherwise
forget it.
If you want more info I can get it off the record cover.
Nick.
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