Title: | GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion |
Notice: | Discussion of the finer stringed instruments |
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Created: | Thu Aug 14 1986 |
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I just noticed an ad in the Latest Guitar Player magazine for a new signal processor from Korg. I believe they call an A2 or A3 Performance Signal Processor. It appears to be set up much like a GP8. They boast digital distortion, wah effects, and an Aural Exciter, as well as the standard effects like compression, delay, chorus, flange, etc. They also show a foot controller, but I'm not sure if it is included or optional. The unit itself features 6 control pots on the front panel for tweaking patches, as well as the programming regular controls. The ad makes no mention of midi. Anyone else notice this new unit. Anyone have any idea how much they sell for, if they are available yet, and if they compare to a GP8, etc. Mark Jacques
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1226.1 | Guess I'll hafta read about it .... | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | The Cover KING !!! | Fri Mar 24 1989 04:44 | 8 |
I saw the add too, but don't know anything about the unit. The music stores around here (Greenville, SC) still think the GP-8 is the multi-effects answer to ANY question so it may be months before the news of this unit reaches here ! Scary | |||||
1226.2 | PNO::HEISER | Walking in 2 Worlds... | Wed May 31 1989 02:32 | 26 | |
Some info on the Korg A3 from CCM: "Using 16 bit technology, the A3 is equipped with 40 different types of effects, among which include reverb, delay, exciter, chorus, distortion, compressor, and even a rotary speaker effect. Up to 16 of any of these effects can be selected and combined for simultaneous processing. Twenty effect combinations (chains) come preset, there are 200 user program memory locations (100 internal and 100 in memory card). Newly developed effects and effects chains can be added to the existing internal effects making it possible to keep up with the ever-changing variety of signal processig without having to buy another effect unit. Signal processing, from input to output, is completely digital. The A3 is easy to operate. Checking setting and editing parameters has been simplified by the inclusion of double function editors and a large LCD. The A3 is a thrill for guitarists (although certainly not limited to them) with many versatile "tube" sounds that put the "C" in crunch. For further information: Korg USA 89 Frost St. Westbury, NY 11590" | |||||
1226.3 | Info from Guitar Player on Korg A3 | CSC32::G_HOUSE | No, you're not there... | Thu Jun 01 1989 22:11 | 115 |
Quite an expensive article, though. According to the June '89 Guitar Player, list price is approximately $1300 (ouch)! However, it states that only 6 simultaneous effects (plus noise reduction) may be used. Maybe one of these (6 vs 16) is a typo. Greg The section describing it follows: (reprinted without permission) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Korg A3 List price: approximately $1300 Effects/processes: reverb (2 room, 2 hall, 2 plate, 3 early reflection), delay/echo/doubling/modulation delay, chorusing/flanging/phasing, pitch shifting (up to one half-step), compressor, EQ/filtering (3-band with parametric midrange or 2-band parametric, wah-wah, and programmable EQ for distortion and reverb effects), distortion/overdrive (4 types), noise gate/noise reduction, exciter, panner/rotary speaker effect, speaker emulator Number of simultaneous effects: 6 (plus digital noise reduction) Number of factory presets: 100 Total memory locations: 100, plus 100 additional locations on each optional RAM card Number of storage locations for user-defined programs: 100, plus 100 additional locations on each optional RAM card Front panel (L-R): Input jack (overrides rear panel input) and level control, headphone jack and level control, write key, utility key, parameter edit key, display select key, up/down keys, program number display, mode indicator display, input level indicator, lcd display, 7 double function edit controls, power switch RAM/ROM card slot Rear panel (l-r): Remote control in, MIDI thru/out selector, MIDI thru/out jack, MIDI in jack, 2 pedal/switch input jacks, right and left output jacks, level attenuator switch, direct output jack, input jack Power supply: built in There's no question about it: The Korg A3- the most expensive item we evaluated-is an extraordinary machine. It has a vase number of features, yet is ridiculously simple to master. Korg, it seems, has done everything right. The A3 owes much of its versatility to its unique "chain" system. A chain, you see, is a pre-programmed combination and sequence of effects, and the A3 comes equipped with 20 of 'em. Chain #1 for example, combines compression, distortion, exciter, delay, modulation, and reverb, in that order; Chain #2 substitutes EQ for distortion; #3 adds wah-wah, but drops the delay, and so forth. You can even switch chains once hou have a given program in the edit buffer. Suppose you've put together a cool combination of sounds, but you're wondering how it would sound with delay instead of chorus-no problem, just switch to the appropriate chain. The A3 accommodates two expression, pedals, and the function of each pedal varies from chain to chain. In one chain, they might serve as volume and wah-wah pedals; in others, they might control the rate of chorus modulation, the left to right panning, or the degree of pitch shifting (Korgs KVP-001 volume pedals cost about $60 each but you can use just about any old volume pedal with the A3). The optional FC6 foot controller (approximately $225), can change programs or switch individual effects on and off. All editing is done via seven rotary/push-pull knobs on the front panel. The first knob selects the chain and serves as a bypass switch. The other control whatever effects make up the selected chain. In "edit" mode, you choose which effect to edit by pushing the appropriate button, then tweak the individual parameters of the chosen effect by twirling the six knobs. In "Performance play" mode, the knobs act as on/off switches for each effect, and each controls a single parameter that's characteristic of each effect. This is a very hip feature, and one that makes the A3 ideally suited to live-performance situations. You can make the type of quick, broad adjustments that you'd be most likely to need when you're playing live (such as the amount of distortion, delay time, reverb balance) without having to cycle through the sort of subtle parameters that you'd be more likely to access in the studio (reverb pre-delay, say, of distortion EQ bandwidth). Whether you're spending hours sculpting the perfect guitar tone, or frantically scrabbling with sweaty fingers to control runaway feedback, the A3 makes the job easy. Another unique feature is the A3s RAM/ROM card system. Not only does this provide unlimited storage space (well, limited only by the number of $120 MCR03 RAM cards you can afford), it also leaves the door open for future changes and upgrades via ROM. (Korg is currently preparing three optional ROM cards with new effects and chains. They will sell for approx. $70 each). The A3s factory presets are some of the hippest we've heard. Many are accurate-and funny-caricatures of influential guitar sounds (check out the program names: "Andy S" "The Edge" "Jimi" etc). Someone at Korg has a keen ear and a keener sense of humor. The A3 provides all the editing parameters you'd expect from a top-flight multi-effector, plus some unexpected ones: You can determine the width of boosts or cuts for all EQ functions. The delay effects have a high frequency damping option (to simulate tape echo devices). You can select either a triangular or sine wave as the source for any of the modulation effects, and you can modulate delays of up to 500 ms (as opposed to 50 ms or so on most gear). The rotary speaker effect allows you to determine the apparent speed ratio of separate low and high frequency rotating speakers-dig it in stereo, man! The three different speaker simulations are pretty dang convincing. In fact , the A3 passed the direct-recording acid test with flying colors. Admittedly, this is a judgment call, but we felt we were able to attain sounds that were hard to distinguish from those of a miked combo amp. Great sound, massive flexibility, and appealing marriage of hi and low tech-so what else do you want? Very highly recommended. [Get the idea the reviewer liked this thing, or what??? What else do I want? I want it to be a lot less expensive. -gh] | |||||
1226.4 | PNO::HEISER | New Oxymoron: Rap Music | Thu Jun 01 1989 23:24 | 3 | |
But can it sound like a Marshall stack? :-) Mike | |||||
1226.5 | HAMER::COCCOLI | cyberwhat? | Fri Jun 02 1989 01:48 | 2 | |
Sure it can. Just hook headphones up to it and set em on 11. | |||||
1226.6 | ASAHI::COOPER | It's just me and my Z | Fri Jun 02 1989 14:27 | 5 | |
re: .4 For that kind of $$$, it sure as h*ll better ! ;^) | |||||
1226.7 | Experience or setup's for A2 | KBOMFG::MARTINEK | Information Systems - KBO Germany | Mon Jun 17 1991 10:23 | 14 |
Hi, any experiences or sound setups on A2 ? I'd like to buy one. Here in Germany it goes for 1960.-DM the A2 and 440.-DM foot controller. Just heard and played one in a music store. What is the difference between A3 and A2 ? Only memory? A2 has a 100 patch memory. Regards Wolfgang M. | |||||
1226.8 | Seen,played or heard? | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | I'll get you with my disentigrating pistol | Tue Jan 19 1993 17:53 | 14 |
Well this note has been dead for a while. I was reading a guitar mag the other night and read about the A2 (i think) could have been A3 (i'll check) as part of the ultimate pro rack. The reviewer had it and some 1RU 100watt a side power amp in a 2ru high SKB roadcase. This was the first time I had heard of this particular unit. I always thought the Korg A series were all foot stompers in one rather light plastic box that didn't sound particularly flash. Anyone have any experience using or hearing live this box,sounds pretty cool,escpecially (sp) with real time knob control on the front. (all manufacturers should do this). P.K. | |||||
1226.9 | Need A Scorecard | TECRUS::ROST | Give me Beefheart or give me death | Tue Jan 19 1993 17:58 | 4 |
Yeah, the A3 is a big bucks rack unit. A5 and now A4 are the floor units. The A2 I think is a little brother to the A3. Brian | |||||
1226.10 | Slight Correction | DABEAN::POWELL | From the disk of Dan's K-Mart VAX | Wed Jan 20 1993 12:34 | 12 |
The A3 was the first member of the Korg A-series rack multieffects units. Has the same effects DSP chip as the M1 synth. New effects and chains are available by adding program cards. The A2 is the second member, which has all the effects and chains of the A3 plus additional effects normally obtained on the A3 by adding program cards. It costs around $950. The flagship is the A1 (2 2spaces). Loads of bells and whistles. >$1500. The units aren't cheap by any means, but they are VERY quiet and versatile. | |||||
1226.11 | Gak! | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Wed Jan 20 1993 13:15 | 8 |
I heard a guy playing through one of those Asomething-or-other units in a store awhile back (the Tascam clinic in Denver, Coop) and I thought it sounded like crap. It was all muddy sounding, compressed, and overprocessed and just generally nasty sounding. He was using a decent guitar and worked in the store, so he should have known how to get a half decent sound out of the thing... Greg | |||||
1226.12 | Set knobs to 13 | SNOFS2::KNIGHTPETER | Wed Jan 20 1993 17:53 | 6 | |
Pity, If they are expensive over there, they will be ridiculous over here. Shame though, as real time adjustment over effects via knobs on the front panel is a great idea. P.K. | |||||
1226.13 | rack 'em and stack 'em | HEDRON::DAVEB | anti-EMM! anti-EMM! I hate expanded memory!- Dorothy | Mon Aug 02 1993 10:38 | 9 |
dbii just scored a used one for wicked cheap ($200). No manual but most of it is intuative...the midi implementation is not. There are great sounds in this thing but the programming controls are very touchy. Does anyone else have one of these? Can I get a copy of the manual? dbii |