Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    What is an  "Amiga Realtime Monitor?"
    
    .. rich

    Well from the Previous version I've seen or ARTM, it's a program that
    let you see different parts of the computer :
    
    	ie	- all mounted devices
    		- all tasks	(you can change the prior)
    		- all windows	(you can close some)
    		- the memory
    		- the expansions 
    		  ...
    
    				A good program (Well the previous version
    						I've that I use)
    
    						Erik

    new uploads from ab20.larc.nasa.gov
    
    DMS-1_03.LZH	Version 1.03 of DMS. Let's hope it works better
    			than the previous versions!
    DMSCHECK.EXE	VMS executable that checks the integrity of a
    			DMS archive. The source for this utility is in
    			the DMS-1_03 archive. I had to modify it a bit
    			to run under VMS.
    
    Frank

    MACHIII V3.2F       Includes SETMACHIII V3.2F, a 68020 version of
                        MACHIII and some other goodies including
    			complete docs.
    
    SETMOUSE V1.1	This program takes care of the advertisement
    			in the PD version of MACHIII (above). Just
    			add the line:
    
    			SETMOUSE 320 50 10 
    
                        to the line immediately following RUNBACK MACHIII
    			in your startup sequence.
    
    MUCHMORE V3.0	Latest version of this neat filereader.
    

    SYSINFO V2.36	An updated version to V2.22. Added 040 speed
    			comparison, SupraRam and WordSync card recognition,
    			added options....
    
    SHOWANIM V5.7	Version of ShowAnim that works under 1.3 and 2.0
    
    
    
    			

    LAZi.LZH		an Lharc, Arc, Zoo graphic interface written
    			with CanDo v1.5.
    
    			see note # 3333.17 for details

    
    
    
 
 Am3dex.lzh is an lharced file Containing the Demos from AMOS 3D.
 They have been compiled with the Amos Compiler, and don't require Amos to run.
 After extraction you should be able to start the demo's by double clicking
 on their respective Icons.
  To end a demo and get back to workbench use <ctrl> C.
   I like Galaxy Thruster the best.

								Ed

    

    This is a library of basic 3D plotting routines to use with the 
    Haitex X-Specs 3D glasses. (LCD glasses that plug into the 2nd joystick 
    port on an Amiga and, with the right software, alternately block the 
    left and right eye while the software presents the right and left
    views, giving true 3D).
    
    The library handles all the buffer switching and driving of the glasses.  
    It has routines for plotting lines, points, sprites, and text.  The
    routines take x,y,z coordinates and display them as left and right views.
    
    xspecs.hzh		Robert Schader's archive containing Richard Horne's
    			XSpecs library and Robert's Manx C interface to it.
    xspecssas.lzh	My modifications of Robert's routines so they are
    			callable from SAS (Lattice) C, plus an attempt to
    			document the routines with such info as I could
    			"reverse engineer" from the various files.  This
    			archive only contains the files I modifed, you also
    			need th library from xspecs.lzh
                             

    
    Re: .8
    
    When I try to run these 3D Demos, I get an error saying "unable to load
    3D code".  What am I missing?  I'm using WB 1.3.1
    Thanks for any help you give me here.
    
    Regards,
    John
    
    

    
    Ditto .... tried and had the same problems as described in  
    the previous reply  {unable to load 3d code]
    
    Frank
    

    According to the manual, "Can't load 3D Code" is an error refering to
    the main 3D code file.
      It's located in the AMOS_System Directory on my hard drive.
      When the Amos Compiler compiles the program, it checks the Amos.env
    (Amos enviroment) file to see what files it needs to include.
      Unfortunately I didn't declare this in my Amos.env.
      I'll fix the files and upload it again.
    
    								Sorry
    									Ed
    

    Recent additions from USENET:
    
    AmiGrasp.ZOO
    	Viewer for GRASP (.GL) animations from MSdros-land, version 1.1.
    
    Larn123.ZOO
    	Amiga port of Larn V12.3, a dungeon game similar to Hack, Rogue,
    	etc.
    
    WBLink.LZH
    	Workbench 2.04 utility to create 'alias' icons for files.  This
    	allows you collect many of your often used icons in one convenient
    	drawer while keeping the actual files in their normal locations.

     The new version of AM3DEX.lzh has been uploaded to
    EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD].
     It's a bit bigger than the others, but contains all the files
    nessacary to run the demos.
     After un lharcing it to a disk. Install the disk and reboot the
    system.
     This should allow you to run the demo's.
     Thier is a readme file in the archive that explains in more detail,
    and it also contains some comments (non-technical) about the various
    amos software.
    								Thanks
    									Ed   

    
    re: New Amos3d demos
    
    No complaints this time.  Very nicely done Ed.  Thanks so much for all
    the extra effort. 
    
    Regards,
    John
    
    

     Phew !!!!! ;')
    
    									Ed

Does anyone have ARQ? It's suppose to provide animated requestors to WB.

    
    ARQ is on ff527
    
    EOT::AMIGA:[AMIGA.FISH.Z500]FF527.ZOO
    
    It's a cute preofram.
    
    Frank
    

	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]CDT.ZOO


CDT -- Change Default Tool
Author: Todd M. Lewis


One of the pieces of information Project icons contain is the
Default Tool--the full name (including the volume and path) of
the program to run when the user double-clicks an icon.  For
several reasons the user may need to change the Default Tool of a
Project icon.  Examples include whenever the Volume Name of the
program's disk is changed, whenever the program is moved to
another drawer or to another disk, and whenever the user wants to
run a different program when the Project icon is double-clicked.

The Amiga Workbench provides a way (the Info menu selection) to
change the Default Tool of icons, but you have to change them one
icon at a time.  If you have a disk with lots of Projects and
their Default Tools all need to be changed, then your are going
to get tired of the Info requester pretty fast.

CDT is a utility for changing the Default Tools of groups of
Project icons.  It will change any icons in a drawer you select
whose Default Tools match the pattern that you specify.  An
option makes it work in drawers contained within the drawer you
select. (So you could do a whole disk at once.)  It also includes
a test mode in which it only tells you what icons it would have
changed without actually changing any.  It can be run from either
the Workbench or the CLI.

The CDT window contains an area where informational messages are
displayed to you (so you know what it's doing) and three string
gadgets labeled "Where", "Old Tool", and "New Tool".

Use the "Where" string to specify the drawer you want to work in.
Possible values would be "DF1:", "RAM:", or "MyDisk:Pictures".

Specify a string-match pattern in the "Old Tool" string gadget.
Only Project icons whose current Default Tool matches the pattern
will be modified.  The AmigaDOS manual explains patterns in the
section on the LIST command.  Note that the character "/" has no
special meaning when matching strings, so the pattern "#?pgm"
will match "df0:Temp/Pgm" as well as "df0:Pgm".

Fill in the "New Tool" string gadget with the text string you
want as the new Default Tool.

When all that is done you can set your options in the menu.  The
menu contains five entries: About, All Drawers, Test, Start, and
Quit.

About (<right amiga>-A or <help>) gives a synopsis of CDT.

All Drawers, when checked, makes CDT examine all drawers
contained within the "Where" drawer in addition to the "Where"
drawer itself.  When not checked, only the Project icons in the
"Where" drawer are examined.

Test turns test mode on and off.  When on, no Project icons are
modified.  Instead, you will be told which icons would have been
changed if test mode had been off.

Start actually starts the whole process.  You can stop it at any
time by selecting the "Stop" gadget which appears over the string
gadget labels.

Quit (and the window's close gadget) terminate CDT.

NOTE: The changes to a Project icon's Default Tool will not
take effect until its drawer's window is opened.  If an icon's
drawer window is already open when you run CDT, you must close
the window and re-open it for the changes to take effect.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

If you have questions or comments about CDT you can drop me a
letter at my work address:

    Todd M. Lewis
    CB# 3450, 402 Hanes Hall, UNC
    Chapel Hill, NC  27599-3450

or send me electronic mail at one of these addresses:

    utoddl@next1.mscre.unc.edu
    utoddl@ecsvax.BITNET

    I downloaded cdt last night and found the archive corrupt. Has anyone
    else had problems?

> <<< Note 5001.20 by PAMSRC::NOCLUE::BARRETT "Keith Barrett; DECmessageQ Expertise Cntr" >>>
> 
>     I downloaded cdt last night and found the archive corrupt. Has anyone
>     else had problems?
> 

It worked ok for me. I used ZOO v2.0 on the Amiga side...

john

It doesn't work for me. I tried it on VMS, AND on the Amiga (via ZMODEM
transfer, so the RMS info wasn't a factor). Here's my VMS session:


SHEMP$ copy pamsrc::eot""::amiga:[upload]cdt.zoo ami:/lo
%COPY-S-COPIED, PAMSRC::EOT""::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]CDT.ZOO;2 copied to SHEMP$DUA0:[BAR
RETT.DOWNLOAD.AMIGA]CDT.ZOO;2 (1 block)
SHEMP$ zoo l ami:cdt.zoo

Archive shemp$dua0:[barrett.download.amiga]cdt.zoo;2:
Zoo:  ERROR:  Archive shemp$dua0:[barrett.download.amiga]cdt.zoo;2:  Invalid or
corrupted archive.
SHEMP$ cvtarc u ami:cdt.zoo
SHEMP$ zoo l ami:cdt.zoo

Archive shemp$dua0:[barrett.download.amiga]cdt.zoo;3:
Zoo:  ERROR:  Archive shemp$dua0:[barrett.download.amiga]cdt.zoo;3:  Invalid or
corrupted archive.

SHEMP$ dir/full ami:cdt.zoo

Directory SHEMP$DUA0:[BARRETT.DOWNLOAD.AMIGA]

CDT.ZOO;3                     File ID:  (77,11,0)
Size:            1/3          Owner:    [DEC,BARRETT]
Created:  25-SEP-1991 16:18:53.49
Revised:  25-SEP-1991 16:18:54.58 (2)
Expires:   <None specified>
Backup:    <No backup recorded>
File organization:  Sequential
File attributes:    Allocation: 3, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0
                    No version limit
Record format:      Stream_LF
Record attributes:  Carriage return carriage control
RMS attributes:     None
Journaling enabled: None
File protection:    System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:, World:
Access Cntrl List:  None


CDT.ZOO;2                     File ID:  (56,31,0)
Size:            1/3          Owner:    [DEC,BARRETT]
Created:  23-SEP-1991 15:37:25.00
Revised:  25-SEP-1991 16:18:54.22 (3)
Expires:   <None specified>
Backup:    <No backup recorded>
File organization:  Sequential
File attributes:    Allocation: 3, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0
                    No version limit
Record format:      Variable length, maximum 76 bytes
Record attributes:  Carriage return carriage control
RMS attributes:     None
Journaling enabled: None
File protection:    System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:, World:
Access Cntrl List:  None

Total of 2 files, 2/6 blocks.

	Looking at the file size of CTD.ZOO in EOT
	it seems that version ;2 is too small to be the real 
	archive.

	Try copying EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]CDT.ZOO;1
	it is 69 blocks long instead of just 1.

	Cheers 
		Roberto

>	Looking at the file size of CTD.ZOO in EOT
>	it seems that version ;2 is too small to be the real 
>	archive.


Looks like that was it. I deleted the ;2 version from EOT::

john

    There are some really nice looking PD games out there... I wondered if
    anyone has got them and wouldn't mind uploading them...
    
    The Insiders Club; wheeling and double dealing on the stock market
    
    Cubulous
    
    Quick And Silva
    
    Truckin' On
    
    
    I'm going to try to get Mech Fight and Empire myself.
    
    I shall also upload a number of Euro Demos today.
    
    
    
    				Jamie.

    Copied into EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD] :
    
    Golem.dms    : Golem Gate demo
    Quartz.dms   : Quartz Megademo
    Echart.dms   : Crusaders EuroChart Sept '91
    Zine10.dms   : Disk Mag
    Topsec.dms   : Disk Mag
    Zen.dms      : Samples; including Coronation St Theme Tune !
    ST-Anim.dms  : Star Trek animation by Tobias Richter
    ST-Manov.dms : Another Star Trek Anim by TR.
    
    Happy unpacking !!!
    
    
    				Jamie.

    Also, Empire.lzh; the latest (I hope) version of Empire.
    
    I can't get hold of Mech Fight, so if anyone else has it, please upload
    it if you can...
    
    Cheers,
    
    
    				Jamie.

    Amigoids is excellent ... very addictive to. It is an Asteroids clone.

    
    re. .26
    
    >Zen.dms      : Samples; including Coronation St Theme Tune ! 
    
    I can't seem to find this on EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]
    
    -Todd
    

    Sorry. It's there now.
    
    cheers,
    
    				Jamie.

    RE: .28
    
    >Amigoids is excellent ...
    
    Where is this?  I looked in EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD] and didn't see.
    
    George
    

    ST-Anim.dms  : Star Trek animation by Tobias Richter
    ST-Manov.dms : Another Star Trek Anim by TR.

Sounds interesting, but dms has crashed my system more than once. Since it's
also somewhat braindead about devices, I don't run it anymore.

Could someone convert upload these in a more palatable form?

	Thanx,
	<mike

    Sounds like you have an old copy of DMS. I've been using DMS almost
    every day for six months without it crashing my system.
    
    
    				Jamie.

    AMIGOI.lzh          V1.0 of an Asteroids clone. This is a superb
                        game, guaranteed to get you addicted! BTW,		
    			higher scores seem easier using the keyboard rather
    			than the joystick.

LOTUS.LZH & LOTUS.TXT (below)
    
This is the Demo version of Lotus Turbo Esprit Challenge 2.
The demo contains three track's; Forest, Fog & Night.
The only negative point is that you are only allowed approx 30 secs of driving
before you run out of time. You then have to reboot the disk to look at another
track.
The demo has the best/smoothest scrolling I have seen in a driving game so far
and look's very promising, the fog section is very realistic !!
The completed game is due out soon from Gremlin Graphics.
    
    							Geo.
    

That's possible, I grabbed the most recent version on ab20 when the dpaint
demo version started circulating.

I'm also running an A3000 with 2.04. That might have something to do with
it.

Does the latest version still not extract into a directory? Does it still
not have any way of exiting if you change your mind after starting it? Those
were the most braindamaged things about it (the silly command interface
didn't help much, either, but I don't expect that to be fixed).

I'd still like to see the archives in some more palatable format.

	<mike

    
    Check out Llamatron !  A real fun game from the U.K.  I grabbed this
    from FF541.
    
    Re: .28     I agree, Amigoids is pretty good too.  Thanks for
    uploading.
    
    John
    
    
    
    
    
    

    RE .36
    
    The whole idea of DMS is that it duplicates the original disk. Because
    of this, it can't extract into a directory. The dms archive may be 
    of a disk that DOS doesn't like very much! In fact some of those
    disks I uploaded are just like that.
    
    The Silly Command Interface is what you get when you just use the PD
    version. If you register, you can get the menu driven version which
    is really nice.
    
    If someone else wants to upload the disks in a different format, it
    would probably have to be zoom or lhwarp. I don't think either of
    these allow you to extract into a directory too, do they ? Certainly
    Zoom doesn't. Don't know about Lhwarp.
    
    
    
    				Jamie.

    AMReport newsletters from usenet are in eot::amiga:[upload]

    amreport1-10.txt	#1.10
    amreport1-11.txt	#1.11
    amreport1-12.txt	#1.12

    ALPHAOMEGA.DMS is in [upload].
    
    It's a very recent Megademo, mentioned in September's Crusaders
    Eurochart.
    
    
    Cheers,
    
    
    				Jamie.

    Is anyone else having problems with lotus.lzh? I downloaded via zmodem
    last night and both lz and lharc complained about bad CRC. I ran the
    archive thru cvtarc here on VMS hoping to see what VMS lharc would say
    and it shrunk from 481 blocks to 12.

    -Dom

    
    
    RE: -1   Yes I had the same problem.  I tried to extract it in VMS. 
    Complained of bad CRC/ file not found/ directory not found????????
    
    

re .38

I know DMS does entire disks. That doesn't mean that all dms archives have
custom bootblocks or custom file systems. If they do, it means they expect
me to reboot my workstation. There isn't a piece of software in the world
that good.

Any command interface that requires I grab the mouse is worse than silly.
You're welcome to like them and use them; just don't ask me to.

I don't know whether lhwarp or zoom let you write to directories. I don't
use them. I believe that lhwarp creates standard .lzh files, which lharc
will extract onto a hard disk, but I'm not sure.

	<mike


	

    re .43
    
    LHWARP is also a track copier which uses a compression algorithm
    similar to LHARC.  Files produced by the two are incompatible.  LHWARP
    does NOT copy files or directories, just whole tracks.
    
    Wes

    A64V2D1.lzh		The A64 Package V2, disk 1.
    
    A64V2D2.lzh		The A64 Package V2, disk 2.
    
    			This new version of A64 incorporates numerous
    			enhancements over previous versions including
    			sound!

    RE .43
    
    Mike, if no software is so good that you'll be prepared to boot the
    machine for the sake of it then you won't be interested in most of
    the stuff I'm uploading anyway. The majority of the demo disks I have
    use custom bootblocks (has anyone seen the "breakout" bootblock; has
    a breakout game on the bootblock!!!) so I guess you'll be missing out
    on them.
    
    Saylervee!
    
    					Jamie.

    re .41    Lotus.lzh
    
    I ran the .lzh file through VMS lharc and it seemed to Extract ok. I
    got errors when I tried to do an Lharc list through. This is the first
    time I've put something into [UPLOAD] so I've maybe done something
    wrong. If anyone manages to Download it sucessfully could they place a
    note in here or drop me a line.
    If there is a problem with the .lzh file I will try again.
    
    
    							Geo.
    
    I hope it works ok as I have some other good stuff that would be
    worthwhile uploading.

 The following files are an animation generated with Scenery Animator from
Natural Graphics.
 They are titled :

 YOSEM_A.LZH - Frames 1-20
 YOSEM_B.LZH - Frames 21-40
 YOSEM_C.LZH - Frames 41-60
 YOSEM_D.LZH - Frames 61-80
 YOSEM_E.LZH - Frames 81-97

 Each file should fit on 1 880k amiga floppy when decompressed.
 If you have enough ram, you could use dpaint III to tie them all together
 as one animation thats 97 Frames long.
  It took about 60 seconds to set up, and 48hrs to render on a straight 68000.
  It's an animation of traveling along the bottom of the yosemite valley.

                                                            Enjoy
								  Ed
 

    I've got a load more Euro Demo's including the great "Decaying
    Paradise" demo.
    
    Question is, does anyone download these ? I don't mind uploading them
    if they're wanted, but there's no point in wasting time & diskspace if
    no one's using them...
    
    Cheers,
    
    
    				Jamie.

    Yes!  Eurodemos are wonderful brain candy, despite the difficulty in
    loading them and bringing them up on NTSC machines.  They are hard to
    find here in the States, so please keep it up.
    
    Wes

    Jamie,
    don't let me leave Earth this way. What are Euro Demos please ?
    
    And if they are, will they come   ddddd.dms ?
    
    thanks
    KLaus

    Eurodemos are demos written predominantly by European coding groups.
    They're constantly pushing the machine to do better and neater things,
    each group trying to outdo all the others. It's got to the point
    now where the artwork is professional quality and the coding is
    superb. I believe that a high proportion of the coders go on to write
    commercial games. That's certainly what has happened with the Lost
    Boys on the ST and I think that Thalion Software is completely staffed
    by ex-demo writers.
    
    They'll all be in DMS format.
    
    
    Cheers,
    
    				Jamie.

The last time I looked at any of them, the majority either crashed or failed
to do anything interesting. Probably something to do with trying to run them
on anything other than an A500 running 1.3 with no fast mem (no, I don't
know that that's the only thing they run on). They are a fair chunk of the
reason I don't bother with things that want me to reboot my machine.

The impression I get from others is about the same - they may be really
spiffy demos, but they break a lot of rules and wind up failing on a lot of
hardware.

That doesn't bode well for the code being superb. That you usually can't
look at it at all doesn't bode well either.

I found the comment in the "education" note on these people doing the
next generation of serious software somewhat frightening because of this.
That could make shopping for the Amiga as painfull as shopping for an IBM
PC.

	<mike

    I have to second that.  When I use the machine I have a considerable
    number of things running which I wouldn't normally want to shut down
    to look at a demo.  I don't think I'd mind a demo taking over the machine
    for a while if it gave it back the same as it left it.
    
    The people writing these may be very smart hackers and certainly show
    the "potential" for the ability to program and understand computer
    hardware at a young age, but I don't think they are really
    demonstrating any knowledge of software engineering principles.
    
    Besides, look what they have to work with in Ami.  Give them a TRS80
    with 4K of memory and then see what they can do!  Now there's a system
    to learn on the hard way :-).
    
    -steve

RE: .53 & .54   Jeez! What a couple of grumpy wet blankets.

I know that people pushing the Amiga want programs to use the best 
possible coding standards but...

[soapbox...]

These are teenagers who are producing amazing things with the tools and 
training they have. Let them learn about good coding practices in college
or at a professional job the same way you learned them. I suppose you never
squeeled the tires on a car or drank too much because those aren't good
car or people "principles".

As for taking over the machine or not running on every platform:  Do you 
refuse to play ball if the rules aren't the same as pro rules?  If you 
don't have 9 people on each team do you go home? 

Do you not eat off of plates because they just get dirty and then you 
have to wash them?  Do you not buy flowers because they just die anyway?
"Don't buy those flowers! Wait until they perfect those things so they
won't die!"

The Amiga is a fun machine for creative people. Creative people don't
follow the rules. They break them.  People will tell them they 
shouldn't do that, but the truly great ones go on to integrate the new 
rules into a structure that everyone can access. That is greatness. 
The truly mediocre ones will agree that they should follow the rules 
and merge with the masses.

Dave 

Hopefully those teenagers _will_ improve their engineering skills
and won't be satisfied just hacking demos.  That potential shouldn't
be wasted.

Their creativity is fantastic, but breaking the multi-tasking rules
that CBM has tried to establish, puts a powerful machine back into
the realm of Nintendo.

Showing a non Amiga user a demo/game/app that requires a reboot is less 
than impressive.

"I thought this computer could multi-task?"
"Well, normally it does - but these people broke the rules."
"So how many demos break the rules?" 
"Most of the good ones."
"Oh."

I'm all for breaking/bending rules that don't make sense or aren't
valuable.  Sharing resources and cooperating with other tasks IS a
very good rule.  Those hackers should devote their time to operating
within that scope - and still producing great work.  Think of it as
an extra challenge, and don't take the easy way out when coding.

Steve

I was REALLY disappointed when I discovered that Ameoba Invaders didn't work
on my A3000 because that was such a great game and it multitask'd while I
down loaded, and Fred Fish recommended it highly.  It don't work on my A3000.
Now the AMOS 3D demos don't multitask, but they do run rather nicely on my
A3000.  As does LLAMATRON, although I do wonder why it turns on the floppy
drive (led)....

    I absolutely *love* these demos.  These folks get this machine to things
    that are simply amazing.   I'm sure many of these things would be
    impossible with the additional baggage and rules imposed by an OS.
    These guys have their own disk structure (and pack an amazing amount
    of stuff on them) and write their own drivers or 'loaders' as they call
    them.   They often write code that 'runs on the metal'.   Breaking the 
    rules in new and creative ways is what, IMHO, entices these folks to do
    these crazy but wonderful things in the first place.  

    Great and clever ways to scroll text, some truly outstanding original
    music scores, remarkable graphics and animations are all things that
    make these appealing to me.

    For me the best part is... what will it do when I boot it and then when
    I press the LMB.  It's always a surprise and I frequently find myself
    staring at the screen, volume cranked up and mouth hung open in
    amazement.

    I don't have to do anything but enjoy (mind candy is the perfect
    description).  Besides, we may not like it but we all reboot once and a
    while to play a great game that 'doesn't follow the rules'.

    Keep 'em coming... it's appreciated.

    -Bruce

    re: .45
    
    The A64V2D1 archive appears to be damaged.  It fails a CRC check near
    the end, and there are a couple of directories missing ("Fonts" and
    "64Prgs").

    re: .49
    
    I do download them, because hard to find them here.
    No problem for me to reboot.......
    
    Please keep the upload going..
    
    Many thanks
    Phil
    

    RE .last few
    
    .58 (Bruce) has it about right, I feel.
    
    Many of the effects in these demos require very precise timing and
    sharing the machine with any other processes would make it impossible.
    By the very nature of some of the demos, they can't multitask.
    
    Many of the demos use their own disk format and compression routines
    and they can achieve incredible performance by doing this. This is 
    all part of the demo, in a way, only it's less appreciated by the
    viewer but it's yet another gauntlet thrown down to other coders.
    
    I believe the majority of the coders are in their teens but I know
    of some who work in the computer industry as programmers and many
    who are at various universities studying computer science or
    mathematics to various levels. The reason they don't give out their
    code is not because it's not structures but because it's a trade
    secret. I have various source code listing from demos and I can
    fairly say that it varies greatly. Some is really poor but some of
    the source is well commented and structured. Of course, because of 
    the nature of the routines, much code is written to work as fast as
    possible and because of the timings required you can often see zillions
    of no-op commands throughout the code but that's a necessary feature
    of what is being done. I challenge any of you to write code that,
    for example, spins a globe with a map of the world on it, inside a
    light shaded, 3d skeletal cube, as can be seen in the Alpha Omega demo,
    that is as good as seen in the demo, and for which the code is
    well structured, doesn't break any rules and is multi-tasking. It's
    easy to criticise until you've tried it yourself.
    
    I've had little experience of coding the Amiga but I used to code demos
    on the Atari ST. Nothing fantastic; just the usual sine scrolls, star
    fields, colour effects etc. But even on that machine, some of the
    effect were hard to achieve without doing some dirty stuff. There
    was one effect called "Hardware" or "DMA" scrolling which (if I
    remember correctly) would allow full screen scrolling effects to
    a degree that was previously thought to be impossible on the Atari ST.
    Anyone who's seen the Lost Boys' MindBomb demo can vouch for the
    effectiveness of this. That's dirty programming but it can't be 
    done any other way.
    
    It might be dirty, but it's still very clever coding.
    
    That's what these demos are all about.
    
    Anyway, enough spew! I hope to get a couple more demos to put into
    EOT today. Hopefully "Mars Flight" which is meant to be particularly
    stunning. I'll let you know.
    
    Cheers,
    
    				Jamie.

Hi,

	I feel -1 is right, a particular demo I have uses the copper to change
	colours of 16 registers in 16-pixel-wide strips thus effecting a 1 pixel
	wide copper colour shift effect - stunning! *But* this is just about
	all the copper can squeeze into 1 scanline, nothing else could possibly
	run at the same time. Naughty, but necessary to Forbid(), Disable() 
	everything to get the effect so nice.

	Anyway, look at it like this... be pleased that however much quiche we
	eat... the AMIGA fits the bill. What a great machine! :-)

								- JIM CAD*

    hmmm,
    
    all the replies seem to prove that i am missing something.
    
    so,
    How do i get a .dms unpacker ?
    Is it PD                     ?
    If not, is it expensive      ?
    Is it complicated            ?
    What  is .dms                ?
    Why   is .dms                ?
    Where is .dms                ?
    How   is .dms                ?
    How many known bugs          ?
    
    :) Klaus

    DMS is PD. The latest version has no bugs that I know of.
    
    You can find DMS in :
    
    EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]DMS-1_03.LZH
    
    It's not complicated. To unpack an archive you simply type :
    
    DMS WRITE DF0:archive.dms to DF1:
    
    or similar.
    
    It's simply a disk packer. It packs a disk into a single file. You can
    specify the degree of compression performed etc.
    
    Why ? Why not ! It's the best disk packer I've come across. I've 
    admittedly only used 3; Zoom, Lhwarp and DMS but of these three
    I prefer DMS.
    
    hope that helps !
    
    Oh, and in EOT::amiga:[UPLOAD] there are two more demos :
    
    SPACE.DMS - Spasmolytic demo by the Spaceballs
    PARA1.DMS - Genesis by Paradise
    PARA2.DMS (contains tracks 70-80 of above)

    
    Well not to be a total scrooge, but there is also the issue of
    viruses on these demos.  Most of them have custom boot blocks
    and some even their own "filesystem".  It's very difficult or
    impossible to tell if there is a virus there under these circumstances.
    If you boot something like this and you have hard drives you are
    taking your chances that they might get infected...
    
    Admittedly anything someone posts here is probably OK, but I'd 
    be very careful trying something straight off a BBS.
    
    Enough said though.  Some of them are impressive.
    
    -steve

    I can't dispute that. But then every new disk you get *could* contain
    a virus. Unless you keep up with the latest virus killers you're always
    taking some risk all the time.
    
    Oh well ! I guess you could always virus check your hard drive after
    every demo session ;-)
    
    Cheers,
    
    				Jamie.

It seems that my comments about not wanting to reboot my machine got
intermingled with the comments about the demos breaking the rules (in
a different *note*), to create the impression that I meant that not
multitasking properly is "breaking the rules". That wasn't my
intention at all.

There are two ways to look at the Amiga:

1) It's a low-end workstation. In that context, "breaking the rules" means
all the things that break multitasking, or cause unacceptable system load.

2) It's a game machine. In that context, "breaking the rules" means relying
on hardware behavior that CBM hasn't specified as "written in stone".

I meant "breaking the rules" in the second context, not the first. I can
believe that many of the things the demos do require having complete control
of the machine. I'm not quite willing to believe that they require doing things
that aren't going to work on anything CBM says is an Amiga (and even some
of the things CBM says *isn't* an Amiga).

The catch with #2 is that it's *hard* to get things that will work right
on all Amigas without using the OS. In a recent BIX discussion, Mike Sinz
(author of WaitBlit) pointed out that there were four different versions
of the blitter around, each of which had it's own quirks. Creating a
WaitBlit that works on your machine and is faster than the OS call is easy.
Creating one that works on *all* Amigas is hard.

Finally, I believe that most people overestimate what you have to throw away
the OS to get away with. Remember, there are OS-approved ways of grabbing most
(if not all) of the Amiga hardware. The tricky part is keeping the OS alive
while it has no contact with the outside world.

Creative programmers break rules, but talented ones create code that works.

	<mike

    And talented, professional, creative programmers, are few and far
    between...but they do da*n good code!
    
    Along the lines of having to break rules to be creative...I'm reminded
    of the guy who had to try drowning to see if it would kill him; or of
    the person, who following their EST session, just knew that gravity was
    a state of mind and for four stories actually convienced himself that
    he was flying; or the hightened awareness achieved via the PCP user
    that told him he had created a NEW reality where he could stop busses
    on the freeway (this was when busses actually reached speeds in excess
    of 35 mph which accounts on why the buss driver couldn't stop in time).
    
    Are these extremes?  Sure!  One can carry anything to extremes. 
    Including art for the sake of art.  Demos which take over the machine
    are quite often just that, art for the sake of art.  They rarely have a
    coding segment which would be useful in a program which had to survive
    in a politically correct machine sociological environment (great! huh?)
    of a multi-tasking, multi-user operating system.
    
    So if you like that kind of art (fairly useless to me) then knock
    yourself out.  If not, then hey!  That's why they make chocolate AND
    vanilla!
    
    Clark

I am another who *LOVES* these demos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It doesn't bother me one bit that I have to reboot my machine after running
some of them (I have seen some that do let you exit back to the O/S). When
you run one of these demos, its to be entertained, like running a great game.
I have no desire to run one while I'm downloading a file, or doing a compile
or something. When I run them, I an turning on my machine to "run demos".
I have had more fun running these demos than doing anything else with my
machine. I am continually amazed at what these folks are able to do with
the machine.

Most of these coders are pre-college age, and are producing these demos
on bare bones stock A500's. I doubt if most even have hard disks. To
them, every byte of ram and disk space is precious. They are milking
every cycle out of the machine! They are NOT writing commercial software,
they are NOT charging money for this stuff. They don't have to follow the
rules! What they are attempting to do, is to take the AMIGA where no
AMIGA has been before :-). They are being extremely creative, and what
is wrong with that?

I believe that most of the compatibility problems are due to the fact
that these folks don't have all the lastest hardware widgits, CPU
accelerators etc that are out there and are probably even unaware that
what they are doing will not always work with these other devices.

Most of the very best games for the AMIGA make you boot from the disk,
or at least make you reboot after running the game. They don't multi-task!
Does this bother me? No, cause when I play these games, I'm not doing
anything else but playing the game. (Although I do hate copy protection!)

I have played with LOTS of these euro-demos, and I have found that the
single most compatibility problems are 1, requires 68000 because all
timing is based on how long it takes the 68000 to perform various
functions, and 2, PAL.

Most acceleratorsboards let you boot from the 68000, so this is not
a problem (unless you have an A3000). Also, if you have a fatter Agnus
you can set it to PAL mode. I went one step further, and added a switch
so that I can hard select NTSC or PAL modes. This was the best thing
I ever did to my AMIGA. I urge anyone with a fatter Agnus to do this.
Even if you don't want to run PAL software, it gives you another 100
lines of vertical resolution. And you don't need a special multi-synch
monitor. Any RGB monitor should work fine. Also, its the next best thing
to a flicker fixer! Adding another 100 lines to your display, brings the
scan lines closer together, and makes the display much sharper. You do
get some flicker due to the lower refresh rate, but not nearly as bad as
running in interlace mode. Try it out, there are programs out there that
will switch your fatter agnus to PAL mode. I added the switch because
I wanted to be able to boot in PAL mode (for booting DEMOS!!!).

If you boot on the 68000 and in PAL mode, nearly every demo I have
ever tried runs fine. Some will run on the 68030 (not many), but most
do not run in NTSC, or if they do, you miss almost 1/3 of the image.

Frank

    
For Bars&Pipes Professional owners:
    
    
			MIDI Time Code Accessory

In response to the difficulties that some people have been encountering
with Bars&Pipes Professional's MIDI Time Code synchronization, we've
written an Accessory that behaves much more reliably and comes with
a few extra capabilities.  Called MTC, it plugs into existing copies
of Bars&Pipes Professional, requiring no update of the program itself.
It does, however, require an update of the MIDI In Tool, which we've
also included.

Both the MTC Accessory and new MIDI In Tool are freely distributable,
as long as you include this ReadMe file. 

    

	What they are attempting to do, is to take the AMIGA where no
	AMIGA has been before :-).

And they are learning habits that will prevent it from going much farther
than it's already gone.

	<mike

    Mike, first, I wasn't using your note specifically when I wrote about
    what I thought regarding demos "breaking" the rules. In fact it was 
    .56 that was more outspoken about this.
    
    I'm not really sure how what they are doing relates to bad habits when
    you consider the nature of what they do.
    
    These guys are not going to end up writing business software; the
    really good ones are going to be snapped up by games software houses to
    write fast code. Do you think that games like Hunter or Starglider 2
    stick to all the rules ? These games really push the Amiga or at least
    did when they were released. Hunter is truly incredible. To me it's
    like an extension of a filled vector demo!
    
    I guess it all depends on what you want from your Amiga. If it's used
    as a serious business machine then stuff that has to run alone would
    irritate you more than if you use your machine for playing games etc.
    But I don't think that the coding is at fault. What they are learning
    is not so much a set of bad habits as a set of skills that, in a 
    particular market, are very desirable.
    
    
    
    				Jamie.

    DMS.LHW can be found in EOT::amiga:[UPLOAD]. It contains a disk with 
    DELUXE DMS and the required arp library.
    
    Hope it works for you !
    
    
    				Jamie.

Re.-1
    
    How do I unpack an .LHW file ???
    
    							Geo.
    
    Just when I was getting used to LZH files ;-) 

    You use LHWARP. It's on EOT and it's a similar tool to DMS in that
    it unpacks the file to make a complete floppy disk.
    
    Cheers,
    
    				Jamie.

Actually, not all commercial software obeys all the rules. Some of them have
very good reasons for abusing the hardware or software (needing to do
something that wasn't possible). However, once you've got something that
works, what are the chances you're going to stop using it even if the software
is no longer appropriate?

The trouble with *any* of this is that when the software breaks, it's usually
the Amiga that takes the rap, not the software. I've had at least one
dealer tell me they were really unhappy with the 3000, as it had no
fallback mode for broken software. And how many people have you seen scream
about CBM not shipping AmigaBASIC with 2.0, wondering what CBM thought they
were doing (AmigaBASIC stores tag bits in the high-order byte of a pointer;
it breaks on the 3000).

I'm not saying that EuroDemos (per se) are bad, or that you shouldn't watch
them, or that you have to treat your Amiga like a workstation (that would
be pretty silly - after all, it is yours). I am saying that the coding
doesn't even make it to mediocre if it won't run on a 3000 with 2.03
(2.04 rescues a lot of software that 2.03 doesn't - one of the reasons
2.04 is so late), and that the Amiga community would be better off if all
game/demo software that didn't follow the hardware rules vanished. Of course,
I want the Amiga of the future to be as good a workstation as it can
possibly be, without being fettered by what game/demo programmers want
to make it do. If you're using it as a superdupernintendo, then what you
want from the Amiga of the future may be different.

	<mike

    New version of PasTeX available on EOT!
    
    PasTeX Version 1.3 and Metafont Version 2.7 are now available at:
    
    	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]PASTEX_13_DISK1.ZOM
    	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]PASTEX_13_DISK2.ZOM
    	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]PASTEX_13_DISK3.ZOM
    	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]PASTEX_13_DISK4.ZOM
    	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]PASTEX_13_DISK5.ZOM
    	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]METAFONT_27_DISK1.ZOM
    	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]METAFONT_27_DISK2.ZOM
    	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]FIG.ZOM
    
    PasTeX is a freely redistributable version of Knuth's TeX document
    markup language/processor.  I belive PasTeX V1.3 is TeX V3.1 or V3.2.
    I haven't looked at the contents yet but the disks unpacked correctly.
    
    The bad news is that they were packed by YADE (Yet Another Disk
    Encoded) called ZOOM.  ZOOM unpacks each ZOM file to a floppy disk (an
    inconvience for hard drive users).  Anyway, ZOOM V4.2 is at:
    
    	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]ZOOM42.LZH
    
    Lastly, the file FIG.ZOM is some sort of figure making program.  I
    don't know anything about it but it was with the rest of the archives.
    PasTeX is a great program but is memory hungry so low-memory users
    don't get your hopes up.
    
    Enjoy,
    George
    
    Ps: I'm more or less with Mike on the on-going EuroDemo debate and
    he'll be happy to know PasTeX doesn't require a reboot and multitasks
    nicely.  If anyone wants to buy me an A3000 I'll inform the net as to
    if PasTeX works on it or not. :-)				-Gaw
    

    Some tools for PasTeX available on EOT!
    
    Along with PasTeX V1.3 (Re: .78), the following may be of interest to 
    TeX users and have been uploaded to:
    
    	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]
    
    The files are:
    
    	LPE11.LZH		LaTeX picture editor used under Intuition.
    	LGE.LZH			Un-documented update to the above made by
    				the same author and limitly distributed.(1)
    	MAKEINDEX.LZH		Make TeX/LaTeX indexs.
    	AMIGA-DVIPS547.LZH	Limitedly tested version of dvips, a DVI to
    				Postscript converter.
    
    	(1)Limitedly distributed but still freely re-distributable, see the
    	   README in the archive.
    
    Have fun,
    George
    

    I've just uploaded an archive of custom print drivers that was included
    on disk with the latest version of the Amiga World technical journal. 
    They are freely distributable and with luck, may even help someone out.

                               DRIVERS.LZH

    The archive includes drivers for various manufacturers printers -

    Epson       IBM         NEC
    Okidata     Panasonic   Sharp
    Star        Xerox

    Sorry guys, no drivers for DEC printers.

    Frank


    

    This is a pretty neat package...say goodbye interchange!
    

This is a DEMO (no-save) version of Axiom Software's new Pixel 3D 2.0.

The back of the box says:

Pixel 3D is the most powerful 3D object utility for the Amiga computer.
Complicated 3D objects can be difficult to create from scratch unless you
put the power of Pixel 3D to work for you.  Use Pixel 3D to convert a
bitmap IFF picture into a 3D object by extruding it (giving it depth).
Pixel 3D offers several extrusion options that give you the power
to make 3D objects quickly, easily and accurately.  Pixel 3D is a great
tool for making a 3D object of letters or a company logo.
Running out of memory? Use Pixel 3D's Data Reduction Algorithms to
reduce the size of 3D object files by eliminating redundant points
and polys.  Use Pixel 3D to easily convert 3D objects from one
format to another.

Pixel 3D can:

Load and save the following 3D object formats (this demo does not save):
Lightwave 3D, Imagine, 3D Pro, Sculpt, Turbo Silver, VideoScape 3D and 
DXF AutoCAD.
Convert bitmaps to 3D objects with extrusion, beveling, color
defined extrusions, spin about an axis and choice of line straightening
algorithms.
Object viewer with wire, solid, shaded, and color viewing modes. Use the
mouse to conveniently change the viewing angle.
Data reduction algorithms. Make your object more efficient by
eliminating unneeded points and polygons.
Pixel 3D is a trademark of Axiom Software. Pixel 3D 2.0 is now
available. See your Amiga software dealer.
    

    AMReport 1.13 newsletter is in eot::amiga:[upload]amreport1-13.txt

    This is an updated version.
    
                                 What it is?

   What is  LAZi?    LAZi is a graphic interface for the archive utilities
   Lharc, Arc, and Zoo.  You supply the archive utilities.  LAZi will add,
   delete, extract, and update  single  or  multiple  files;  allow you to
   read  extracted  readmes/docs  or  any   other  ascii  file;    save  a
   configuration file that holds the locations  of your work directory(s),
   archive utilities, and icon position.  Yes,  it  will iconify and, when
   re-iconified(?),  stay  where  you  last placed it!   If  you  have  no
   experience  using  Lharc,  Arc,  or  Zoo  I  suggest  you   read  their
   documentation before  using  LAZi.   LAZi was created using CanDo v1.5.
   Updated from version 0.94 to 0.98. see Changes.DOC for changes
   
                           1meg RAM is recommended
    

     Just U/Led the newest CSN (computer shopping network) price list.
     It's eot::amiga:[upload]csn10119.lzh
     
     
    								Ed
    

    A3DPATCH.LZH  a utility to adjust the screen hieght of AMOS 3D object
    modeler.
    								Ed
    

    Safe Harbor Catalog 10/91 ..... 
      SH1091.LZH
    
    								Ed
    

    BuildAnim.lzh contains two utilities, BuildAnim and BigAnim, by
    Christer Sundin.  BigAnim works great displaying the 6 MB Planetside
    demo animation (Lemmings CDTV disc) on my 3 MB Amiga.  Here are some
    excerpts from the readme file.
    
    Wes
    ------------

    BigAnim plays animations by loading a frame, decompressing and
    displaying it, loading next, and so on. That means it'll only need
    space for two screens (double buffering) and a load buffer. For 32
    colors, 320x200, this will be about 100 K, depending on the size of the
    DLTA chunks in the animation.
    
    BigAnim uses a normal intuition screen to display the pictures, so you
    can drag it around all you like, put it in the background or whatever.
    It will play the animation in a loop, and you quit it by pressing ESC
    or the right mouse button, pressing the left mouse button pauses the
    animation.
    
    BuildAnim builds animations by keeping three pictures in memory,
    computing and saving the DLTA chunk, loading next picture and so on.
    This will take about 150 K of memory for 32 colors, 320x200 pixels.
    
    Usage: "BuildAnim infile outfile", where infile is the name of the
    first picture in a sequence of pictures named NameNNN, for example
    Pic001 or Frame042. This means you can begin at any number you like. It
    continues to load pictures by increasing the number at the end of the
    filename, until a file can't be found. Naturally, all the pictures must
    have the same size and no. of colors. 
    
    IMPORTANT: Since the last two frames in an animation has to be the same
    as the first two, you must create two additional pictures by copying
    the first two. Example: You have the pictures Pic001 to Pic050. Then
    you must copy Pic001 to Pic051 and Pic002 to Pic052. 
    
    Christer Sundin, 9-oct-91

    Will the planetside demo work on a 2 meg machine ?
    
    
    Cheers,
    
    				Jamie.

    Ahhh, rathole!  The Planetside "demo" does not actually RUN on any
    Amiga.  The driver on the CD-ROM appears to use CDTV features - it
    crashes the Amiga.  As for playing the animation on a 2 meg, or even
    smaller machine, it certainly should work with BigAnim.  If you go back
    and read the readme file, you'll see that BigAnim only buffers a few
    frames at a time, and relies on frequent updates from disk.  The whole
    point of BigAnim is to be able to run animations larger than available
    RAM.
    
    Wes

    Sorry; saw the word "PLANETSIDE" and typed REPLY faster than I could 
    read the BIGANIM description!
    
    On the USENET, people have claimed to have copied the PLANETSIDE files
    off of the CD and onto a hard drive and have then been able to play the
    animation...
    
    
    
    				Jamie.

    Continuing the rathole... The Lemmings CDTV disc is not copy-protected
    in any way.  A regular Amiga will run the Lemmings game and display the
    Planetside animation.  What doesn't work: the program on the CD-ROM
    which plays the animation on a CDTV -- apparently it uses CDTV-specific
    routines.
    
    Wes

    I'm with you now!
    
    Cheers,
    
    				Jamie.

I put the latest version of VLT in EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]VLTJR-5-045.LZH

The PF1-PF4 keys finaly send PF1-PF4 even when not in Application mode
(like their suppose to) so now VTX etc.. works properly with VLT.

enjoy,
Steve.

    I uploaded the latest directory listing of ab20 (as of 30-Oct-91):

	eot::amiga:[upload]ab20-files.txt

    Also, a listing of applications/games that work/do not work under 2.04 
    and/or the A3000 (grabbed from usenet).

	eot:;amiga:[upload]a3000-compat.txt

    -Dom

    
    Just uploaded "DripGame" to EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]Drip.lzh;1
    
    Has all the major features of a real arcade game.  Very addictive.
    I grabbed this off the ab20 FTPMAIL system.  My thanks to all the
    noters whose notes helped me figure out how to do this.
    
    Regards,
    John
    
    
    

			THIS IS FOR OS 2.0 ONLY!

I downloaded this little gem from Portal.  When you drop an icon or file name
(when using show by name) into its little window it will create a directory in
ram: by default (you can change the destination directory) and burst the
archive.  I used it with Arc, zoo, and lharc files without a hitch.

mark
    

    I've uploaded BARTMAN.DMS and ZEUS.DMS to EOT. BARTMAN is a demo
    with the "Do the Bartman" remix and some slides of the dude himself!
    Zeus is a game very similar to the commercial puzzle game Puzznic. It's
    been very highly rated in many PD mags in the UK.
    
    Cheers,
    
    				Jamie.

   *Sigh* All these new goodies, and I still can't get DMS to work...
    I recently looked for a newer version of the DMS archive on EOT::,
    but didn't see one. Am I missing something??

						Thanks in Advance,
						Rob

    
    I grabbed DMS1.03 from a local bbs yesterday, and unlike the 1.03 on
    EOT, it works.  Unfortunately.....no better than 1.02 !  I still get
    the checksum errors from my Ami shortly after unpacking.  I've tested
    the archived files on both the vax and ami sides, and they check out
    okay.  Using DMS1.02, I've gotten two of the disk magazines, and a
    couple of the demos that Jamie uploaded, but in all other cases, I've
    been unable to load the disks due to the checksum errors.
    
    Questions.....
    
    Do these dms archive files unpack to 901120 bytes?  That's the figure
    I see all the time when the file has finished unpacking.  
    
    Does anyone want me to upload DMS1.03 even though it still doesn't
    appear to get the job done?  If so, I'll upload it this weekend.
                 
    
    Regards,
    John
    
    
    

    AMReport 1.14 and 1.15 have been uploaded to 
    eot::amiga:[upload]amreport1-14.txt and amreport1-15.txt.

    Some interesting news in 1.15 re: CBM revenues and Amiga sales.

    And from the "Interesting Notes" section this little blurb:
 
    "In Boston, Logan International Airport is upgrading its tourist infor-
    mation service with an Amiga 3000 system offering full motion videos,
    still frames of maps, pictures and illustrations, and weather and traffic
    updates."
 
    and there was another little blurb about Nolan Bushnell having left
    Commodore.

    -Dom

I sympathize, I've had my share of frustration with DMS.  However, I've
got a version that works for me.  I've uploaded it to EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]
as DMS2.LZH and DMS2.txt (included in this reply).  Good luck.
    
A P.S. to Jamie, another Amigoid that appreciates your uploading of
those wonderful demos.  Bartman is a must have.
                     
this is a copy of dms 1.02.  It has worked for me under 1.3 and 2.04.

Sorry, I didn't save any doc files, just type the comand with no
parameters and it gives a help file.

dennis
DWOMV2::CAMPBELL

    
    From comp.binaries.amiga the latest DICE version: NETDCC.ZOO
    

MWMCOMMS.LZH - a handfull of 2.0 commodities/tools I use that others may
want..

MWMCOMMS.TEXT - a description of them. It's short enough I'm going to
repeat the descriptions here:

mouseoff - keystroke counting mouse blanker
mbm - middle button -> shift click hack, with the ability to invoke commands
        from "hot buttons"
switcher - a screen/window switcher for use with mbm, source included.
meyclock - title bar clock/memory monitor; the latest revision of my first
        Amiga program. Source included.
build.rexx - rexx script for building clock and switcher

	<mike

    Re: .101
    
    In AMreport 1.15 they review a show with a PC Week-sponsored
    MultiMedia Shoot-Out contest between PClone, Mac, and Amiga.
    Does anyone know the outcome?  The article (unless I misread
    it) discusses the three day process of building a MM shw for
    Greenpeace but doesn't give the judges final awards.
    
    George
    

Re: .105

I agree, it was only a teaser.  It ends with "for more details, read
this file on CompuServe."

Do these guys work for CompuServe or something?

    Re: -.1,-.2

    Yeah, there were similar postings on usenet asking the same question
    after that report was posted. I vaguely remember someone saying they'd
    try to get the results of the test and post it. I've been keeping an
    eye out for any related threads, but haven't seen any thus far. The
    usenet feed's been pretty quiet the past few days and new postings are
    just beginning to appear again today. If I see anything I'll grab it and
    move it over to eot.

    -Dom

    
    At last!   I finally figured out how to get some of the great demos to
    work.  As I said back in .100, I was able to unpack these DMS gems
    without errors, but AmigaDos returned "checksum 880" errors and refused
    to boot as a result.  So.... I read the docs and found something called
    "noval".  The docs say that "noval" stops DMS from inhibiting the disk
    validator when writing a disk.  By typing the following, I was able to
    load Bartman.dms and Quartz.dms for the 1st time:
    
    DMS Write file.dms to df1: Noval
    
    This appears to take care of those non-standard boot blocks.  If the
    file has a standard boot block, you won't need to use this.  
    
    BTW......The Quartz demo was fantastic!  
    
    Regards,
    John
     
    
    
    
    

    Re: .105,.106 

Article: 9521
From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian KENNEDY)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Re: AMReport #1.15 (Multimedia shootout)
Date: 8 Nov 91 19:23:46 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
 
In article <Ray_Hines.4532@dream.uucp> Ray_Hines@dream.uucp (Ray Hines) writes:
>In a message dated Thu  7 Nov 91 03:38, Gt1619a@prism.gatech.edu (james Is 
>wrote:
>
> GI> The reason I wonder is because Commodore could not have lost, they
> GI> were the only participants. Apple, IBM, Tandy, and some smaller
>companies  GI> all pulled out of the competition before it began.
>
>Perhaps they pulled out because they found out Commodore was in it?  Scared
>of the venerable Amigas? :)  Kidding.
>
 
Actually Microsoft and Asymetrics won the competition. Not because our (MS)
platform was technologically superior but because the 
presentation was the best, it allowed the user to explore the topic
selected (global warming, I think) better than either the C= entry or
the Mac entry. It's a classic case of quality-vs-quantity. C= could have
won if their multimedia presentation had been better in the ease of use and
information arena.
 
//Iank@microsoft.com
//Please don't flame me. I love my amiga, yet have a grip on reality.
//
 
>-- Via DLG Pro v0.985b
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ///\     Raymond Hines            Internet: Ray_Hines%dream.uucp@ufl.edu
>///  \  DreamStates BBS            UUCP: uflorida!dream!Ray_Hines
>\\\  /   1-904-331-4317
> \\\/ FidoNet 1:3601/30  "A state of dreaming - to escape from reality..."

    
    Just uploaded DMS103.lzh;1 and Genesis.dms;1 to EOT.
    
    V1.03 works the same as 1.02, but checks for an add'l 60 different
    viruses.
    
    Genesis contains some demos and a game called "Nebula".  This disk
    was developed by an Australian group called "Austex".   I enjoyed
    it, and hope you do as well.
    
    Regards,
    John
    
    
    
    

    Two archives from dfs:: copied to eot::amiga:[upload]

    gifmach.lzh	    GIFMachine - a GIF to sham convertor (there are versions
		    on recent Fish disks, but these are for WB2.0 only. This
		    one works on 1.3)

    ls40.lzh	    A unix like ls command (v4.0).

    Uploaded ARPLIBONLY.LZH for those who needed the library.  This is
    version 39.1.
    
    Tony

    
    From usenet:
    
AUUCP.TXT;1         DOSREAD.TXT;1       LOGIN.TXT;1       
AUUCP1.ZOO;1        DOSREAD.ZOO;1       LOGIN.ZOO;1         
AUUCP2.ZOO;1        
AUUCP3.ZOO;1    
    
AUUCP.TXT --- 
[ This is version 1.15D of Dillon's UUCP system, discussed in newsgroups
  alt.sys.amiga.uucp and alt.sys.amiga.uucp.patches.  
 
  Basically, this software allows you to hook an Amiga to the UUCP network, 
  giving you the ability to transfer files, mail, and news with a UUCP
  neighbor.  It also includes a *lot* of other software that may be useful
  it its own right.  
 
  There are several organizations that will sell UUCP connections, or you 
  may be lucky enough to find a site willing to give you a connection for free.
 
  The distribution is divided into three "disks".
 
DOSREAD.TXT ---- Read AmigaDOS disks under Amiga Unix.
DOSREAD is at Version 1.4; and DOSLS is Version 1.2.
 
I've included both DOSLS and DOSREAD in this package, although DOSLS
has only changed in its' error message output since the last time that
I posted it in comp.unix.amiga; DOSREAD has changed more substantially:
it wouldn't read more than the first file header block so only files up
to 36K in length could be copied!  This was found and fixed quickly. :-)
The files are simple uuencoded binaries (source will not be distributed).
 
Please feel free to send any bug reports; enhancements are not likely since
anything major will be left for the filesystem implementation.  This code
carries around a lot of baggage because it runs in user-space and I'm
looking forward to a kernel-mode version.
 
    LOGIN.TXT ----  ?possibly useable for new login?
       
This is an updated version of login.c posted to comp.sources.misc in the
spring of 1991. It can be used as a /bin/login and /etc/netlogin
replacement for Interactive Unix. For ATT&T SysV/386 with Wollongong
TCP/IP, it may be used to replace /bin/login only (not /usr/etc/netlogin).
 
A form of "user access security" is supported. If file /etc/usrtime
exits, it is processed to restrict the tty line, day of week, and time of
user access. Additional options allow all users, uucp, slip users and
interactive users to be controlled on a global basis. The format of this
file is:
 
      <user>:<enable>:<tty>:<weekday>:<time>:<comment>
 
for example:
 
      SLIP:LOGIN:ttyi1a:::::
      ajf:LOGIN:tty??,tty???:Mon,Tue:0800-1700:Temp employee
 
NEW FEATURES for v2.0
 
   1. can work as /etc/netlogin with Interactive Unix.
   2. support for /etc/nologin
   3. slip login control
   4. "!" operator in /etc/usrtime (Uwe Doering, gemini@geminix.in-berlin.de)
   5. general cleanup and bug fix.
 
tony...              (tony@ajfcal.cuc.ab.ca)
 
    

    From ab20: (for WB2.0 only)

	killclick2_wb20.lzh	Stops the floppies from clicking

    (and I'd moved mouseoff.lzh there as well, but there's already a
    copy on eot that was posted earlier in this note. Sorry for not seeing it,
    they're identical, but my file's a few blocks smaller :-) )

    -Dom

	WIZZYSQUEST.LZH

	A cute (above average) PD platform/puzzle-solving game. 

	Note: PAL users will need to comment out the first
              line of the startup-sequence file.
	
	Dave
    

	HATE.LZH

	Despite the discouraging name, this game is well worth a look at,
	It is in fact a coin-op conversion of an early 1980's classic
	(though I can't recall the original title). One of the first ever 
        games where you have to think of x,y and z axes. Guide your little
	plane through the warzone.

	I'd say more, but unfortunately I'm totally useless at it.. 
        I can't seem to get past more than one of the obstacles.

	Dave
    

    Here are several WB 2.x only files and extracts from their respective
    doc files.  If some of these are on fish; sorry 'bout the duplication. 
    I have been using starblanker and nulook for a couple of weeks now with
    no problems.  
    
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Starblnkrs.lzh

This is a modification of the screen blanker that comes with 2.0.  Instead
of just clearing the screen to black this program will present a star field
as inspired by Leo's "Stars" program. 
    
    Wallpaper.lzh

                             Wallpaper  v1.0

                              by Joe Rumsey

   Sick of solid backrounds and tiny little patterns on your workbench?  Now
under Workbench/Intuition 2.0, any image you can view on your Amiga can become
the backdrop for your Workbench window.

   Wallpaper allows you to place an iff image in the background of the
Workbench window.  The image may contain up to 16 colors.  Pictures with more
colors than the current Workbench can display are accepted, but no attempt is
made to adjust the colors.

Important note:  Make sure that the main workbench window is the ONLY workbench
 window open when you run wallp.  That is, no disk or drawer windows should be
 open, but other windows on the workbench screen are ok.  Disk and drawer
 windows will sometimes confuse wallp into using them for it's picture.

Usage:   Wallp [-options] [filename]
    
    Nlook.lzh
    

                                ReqToAsl

                               ReqToAslNR

                                ArpToAsl
                                  
                                 NuLook

                    Copyright (c) 1991 by Fabio Rossetti

                      Freely Redistributable Software

==========================================================================

NOTE WELL:
----------

You need Kickstart v2.xx or later to run these programs, otherwise they
will simply silently exit.

Overview
--------

Here is a suite of small programs to give you the possibility to run
quite a lot of old software with the new file/font requesters and 
the 'three dimensional embossed' look of OS 2.0..
    
    chgdrw.lzh
    

   NAME
	ChangeDefault

   SYNOPSIS
	ChangeDefault - A drawer icon image replacement tool.

   FUNCTION
	This tool will help you change drawer icon images to match the
	default image you use in your system.  Just select your icons
	and then select the AppMenu item Change Default.

	You can also drop the selected icons into the window.

	Change Default will not change anything other than the icon image.
	The settings of the drawer window are not changed.

	The default icon is read at startup of this program.
    
    autoactivate.lzh

                             AutoActivate

                             (Commodity)

                                  by

                            Stefan Sticht

         This program (binary), sourcecode, documentation is 

                            PUBLIC DOMAIN.

                     You may do anything with it!


Purpose of this commodity:
--------------------------
AutoActivate  always activates the window under the mouse pointer when
any key on the keyboard is pressed.

Requirements:
-------------
This commodity requires at least Kickstart 37.#?  and Workbench 37.#?.
Please  check  this  out  using Version in the Shell or About from the
Workbench's   Workbench   menu.    You   also   need   to   have   the
commodities.library  in your libs:  directory.  Please check this out:
type "dir libs:" in the shell.

    

I didn't see autoactivate.lzh on EOT::...

Is that the correct name?

thanks!

john

    Looks like it had a problem making it to [upload] and unfortunately I
    deleted it from my directory.  I will upload it and some of the others
    tonight.
    
    md
    
    
    

    PSX11.lzh
    
    A public screen utility by S. Tibbits(sp?)
    
    POINTERX2.lzh
    
    Animated WB busy pointer for v2.x.  Both hands move (like a stopwatch)
    on the busy pointer.  by S. Tibbits
    

    
    Nebula 
    
    Battle enemy craft on the moon of Uropa, and bomb energy-rigs. 
    Referred to in note 5174.
    
    
    Enjoy,
    John   
    
    

    this version has a GUI; the docs are unfinished but it works.  I didn't
    notice any drive speed up under the new OS...
    
    mark
    

  I ftp'd the Amoner Disks issues 1 and 2, uudecoded them, and successfully
 unpacked them at home with Disk Masher.
  So I've uploaded them to EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD] as Amoner1.dms and Amoner2.dms.
  I'm not shure if you'd have to cvtarc arc them, but I believe you'll have
  to use the /Stream_lf parameter from NFT. If running pathworks, just Copy em.
   Worked for me.

  The Amoner Project is a Amos Users PD disk that is distributed electronically
 over Usenet/Bitnet.
  It's in a disk magazine format.
  However, you don't need Amos to run them, simply boot from the disks.
  If you have a 1 meg Agnus it'll reboot into pal mode, if you wish to seen it
  in NTSC mode, you'll have to modify the disks start-up sequence,(see the
  documentation on the disk after Unpacking).

   If you have Amos, the programs provide usefull examples on coding in Amos.
   If you don't, you still might find them entertaining and useful.

								Ed

    I grabbed some stuff via FTP from AB20 over the weekend, all uploaded
    to EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]....
    
    	AB20_Files.LIS		! "FILES.Z" list of files on AB20
    

	DOUBLEDRAGON3DEMO.DMS	! Demo of game - Double Dragon 3
    
	POPULOUS2DEMO.DMS	! Demo of game - Populous 2

	AMUD3_0_45_1.LZH	! Amiga port of MUD game
    
	DEGRADER100.LZH		! Utility to help games run on A3000
    
    	! Several XPR modules for use with VLT, HandShake, etc.
    
	XPRGATE-1_0.LZH
    
	XPRKERMIT-1_5.LZH

	XPRXMODEM-34_3.LZH

	XPRYMODEM-2_0.LZH

	XPRZMODEM-2_10.LZH
    

    eot::amiga:[upload]AMReport1-17.txt
    eot::amiga:[upload]AMReport1-18.txt

    
    eot::amiga:[upload]Zine11.dms;1
    
    This is a disk magazine.
    
         and.....
    
    eot::amiga:[upload]Agraph.zoo;1
    
    This is a newer version of the "Agraph" program found on the
    Amoner2.dms;1 file that Ed Doyle was good enough to upload recently.
    You can make some real nice bar, line, and pie chart graphs.  With this
    version, you can title the Datasets, and the number of Datasets and
    Data Points you can input has been increased.  Other improvements are
    listed in the changes.doc file.  Try it....I think you'll like it.
    
    Regards,
    John
    
    P.S.   Re: Amoner2.dms;1      
           There was also another real nice program on this disk called
           "Loan Calc".  Again, thanks Ed!
    
    
    
    

    eot::amiga:[upload]PanasonicPlus-V5.lzh
    eot::amiga:[upload]PanasonicPlus-V5.readme

    Showfont.lzh	Shows you what your fonts in a directory look like
    

 I just got AM132.dms off Ftp Incoming/Amiga/Amos.
 I'm putting it into EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD] now.

						Ed

    Sorry guys, the Amos Updateing (AM132.DMS) disk didn't Un-mash for me 
    properly.
    It had a crc error at track 36.
     I suspect I altered some of the data when I was putting it back
    together.
     I'll try to do it again and reupload the new version after I bring it
    home and check it out.
    On the other hand I also have what looks like the 3rd Amos demo disk,
    from before the original release of the product.
     This works fine, and I'll upload it to
    EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]AMOSDEMO3.DMS
     It gives some good examples for struggling Amos programers like
    myself.
       Sorry for the bad U/L.
    								Ed
    

    For all you PasTeX Version 1.3 Users!
    
    On EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD], I have placed:
    
    	PreviewFonts_disk1.zom
    	PreviewFonts_disk2.zom
    	PreviewFonts_disk3.zom
    	PreviewFonts_disk4.zom
    	PreviewFonts_disk5.zom
    	PreviewFonts_disk6.zom
    	PreviewFonts_disk7.zom
    	PreviewFonts_disk8.zom
    
    This constitutes a complete set of fonts for the DVI previewer
    (ShowDVI) at all supported resolutions.  The archives are ZOOM
    archives and un-pack to floppy disks.  As such, these are useable
    by floppy-based TeXer's right away.  Hard disk users can easily
    copy the files to thier TeX:pk directory tree.
    
    ZOOM is also on EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD] but I forget the archive
    name.  Also, the 4 (5?) disks of PasTeX are there also if you
    wish to start from scratch downloading PasTeX and these fonts
    will give you a pretty usable system. [no output though without
    additional fonts]
    
    George
    

    For all you wanna-be Lemmings users that don't have it yet
    (I'm probably the only one) :-(!
    
    On EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD], I have placed:
    
    	xmaslemm.dms
    
    Unpack to floppy via DMS V1.3 (?).  This is the lemmings
    2-level demo version special for christmas.  The floppy
    that is un-packed is a standard boot-block and the demo
    can be moved, with a little work, onto hard disk.
    
    Enjoy!
    George
          

    
    	Last night I upload the latest XPRZmodem 
    
    	XPRZmdm250.lzh 
    
    	This was copied over from AB20
    
    	Steve G 

    Here is the latest version of DiskSpeed from Michael Sinz. (v4.1)
    
    

     Okay, after 2 more try's I put the file together correctly and it
    un/mashed okay with dms.
     (Phew!) I'll copy the file up to EOT::AMIGA:[Upload]AMOSV131.dms.
     The reason, I'm changing it to V131, is because the documentation
    states that this is what version is on the disk.
     The program updates any version of Amos V1.1 and greater and comes 
    with a text file that indicates the changes and explains new commands.
     
    								Ed

    
    Fish 561-570 have been uploaded to eot""::amiga:[upload] as ffxxx.lzh.
    
    These are in streamLF and should be lharc readable on all systems.
    
    wayne
    

    Just u/led new Safe Harbor Catalog to eot::amiga:[upload]sh1291.lzh
    
    								Ed
    

    I harvested the latest Upgrade files off of the Cros Dos BBS.  I added
    *.TXt files for the upgrade files that were already on EOT::Amiga:[upload].
    Looks like 4.02.A is needed for AtOnce and power PC board Hard disk
    users.  After the Upgrade you will have a MSDOS_HARD_Disk file read
    that for info on how to set up the MountList entry.
    
    Have Fun
    
    P.S.  The Ambassador is scheduled to be released mid February. 
    I was told it would be a $45.00 upgrade cost for CrossDos owners. 
    Slightly more for international users.   We will need to send in our
    orginal Cross Dos disk.
    
    =======================================================================
    
    
CrossDOS Version 4.01a Update Available! (3/31/91)
========================================

CrossDOS is currently at version 4.02a as of April 2nd, 1991.  Version 4.0
will provide up to two times faster floppy data access for those owners of
the Amiga 500, 1000 and 2000.  Formatting an MS-DOS disk (with verify) now
goes  from  360  seconds to 149 seconds!  It also provides Amiga operating
system V2.0 compatibilty.

For registered users, we have provided patch files to allow you to upgrade
to  4.02a.   These  files  will  update  users	from  3.05b to 4.02a.  The
CrossDOS  version  you	have  purchased  can  be determined by reading the
second line in the "READ.ME" file on the CrossDOS product disk.

Consult  the following table for the files needed to upgrade.  These files
are found in the File Area "CrossDOS_Updates".

						    CDP402aINTL.lzh
	CDP306c.lzh   CDP400a.lzh     CDP401a.lzh     CDP402a.lzh
Version CDU306c.lzh   CDU400a.lzh     CDU401.lzh      CDU402.lzh
-------------------------------------------------------------------
3.05b --->  3.06c
3.05c --->  3.06c
3.06  --->  3.06c
3.06a --->  3.06c
3.06b --->  3.06c
3.06c ---------------->  4.00a
3.07  ---------------->  4.00a
3.07a ---------------->  4.00a
4.00  ---------------->  4.00a
4.00a -------------------------------->  4.01a
4.01  -------------------------------->  4.01a
4.01a ------------------------------------------------->  4.02a
4.02  ------------------------------------------------->  4.02a

If  you  wish for us at CONSULTRON to update your disk to V4.01a, you must
send  in  the  original  CrossDOS disk, include your warranty card (if not
already sent in), reference your product serial number and include a check
for $10.00 (US) made out to "CONSULTRON".



Listing of [CrossDOS_Updates]

CDU306c.LZH		   63095 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:30:48
: CrossDOS utility files.  Update R/W versions 3.05b to 3.06c

CDU402.lzh		   13808 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:30:51
: CrossDOS utility files.  Update R/W versions 4.01 to 4.02

Dr_CrossDOS.LZH 	   18670 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:30:53
: CrossDOS diagnostic utility.	Use this if you are having problems.

CDP400a.LZH		   41330 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:30:57
: CrossDOS patch files.  Update R/W versions 3.06c to 4.00a

CDU400a.LZH		   61712 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:31:02
: CrossDOS utility files.  Update R/W versions 3.06c to 4.00a

CDP402a.LZH		   14753 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:31:04
: CrossDOS patch files.  Update R/W versions 4.01a to 4.02a

DiskChk.LZH		    8110 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:31:05
: Special versoin for MSDOS Hard users

CDP401a.LZH		   20084 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:31:07
: CrossDOS patch files.  Update R/W versions 4.00a to 4.01a

CDU401.LZH		   17619 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:31:09
: CrossDOS utility files.  Update R/W versions 4.00a to 4.01

CDP402aINTL.LZH 	    7526 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:31:11
: CrossDOS patch files.  Update R/W INTL versions to 4.02a

CDP306c.LZH		   23784 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:31:14
: CrossDOS patch files.  Update R/W versions 3.05b to 3.06c

M5AFix.lzh		    4992 ----rwed 08-Nov-91 19:31:15
: Fix for those who use a Master 5A drive with CrossDOS.

    

    
    	Over the Weekend I upload the latest version of AmigaTest
    
    	Is says it the A500 final test BUT it also works on 2000
    
    
    	It on EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]AMIGATEST.LZH
    
    
    
    	Steve G

    
    	I've just uploaded the latest IBeMDemo to EOT
    
    
    		IBeMDemo_120.lzh
    
    
    	This was obtained from the Informatik ftp server...
    
    	Steve G 

Here are a few commands that did not make it into 2.04; however, I've
gotten the go-ahead to distribute them in this fashion;  It's possible
that future versions of the OS will contain updates of these commands.
It's also possible that it won't.

These commands are designed for 2.04.  It is possible that future
revisions of the OS will require future revisions of these commands.
(This is why I consider them hacks)

Anyway, I've been using them for about a year;  now that everyone
can get 2.04 (and now that I've cleaned the commands up) its time to give you 
the opportunity too.

Any bugs you find should be reported directly to me, as well as to Commodore,
for they should not be currently considered Commodore supported.  I will
probably fix the bugs I hear about, though.


			have fun,

			andy finkel

-------------------------------------------------------------------
"TA
    
    The commands are History, PIPE and Recorder.  See file for details
    
    mark

I just uploaded the following:


AUTOCENTRE.LZH;1          7   6-JAN-1992 18:36:29.60
FRACBLANK.LZH;1          53   6-JAN-1992 18:36:32.96
TDX.LZH;1                13   6-JAN-1992 18:36:36.59
WALLPAPER.LZH;1          55   6-JAN-1992 18:36:44.17
XOPER_2_3.LZH;1         165   6-JAN-1992 18:36:47.35
XPR-ZSPEEDMODEM.LZH;1
                         22   7-JAN-1992 12:42:44.50

The first four are various 2.04 tools.
The new Xoper works fine here on my A500 & OS 1.3, but get's confused
on my A2500/20 & OS 2.04.
The XPR-ZSpeed.library is based on the normal XPR-Zmodem.library 
(it reads it's defaults from ENV:xprzspeed), but seems faster and works
better with VLT.

Cheers,

<CB>

re -1

what version of LHARC do i need? i have V1.3, but it isn't enough.

Re: .144

Which archives give you trouble?
Anyhow, I use Lharc 1.3, LZ 1.92 and LHA 1.00 (I'll register these days),
depending on wether I want safety or speed. ;-)
LZ 1.92 handles the .lha archives (lh-5 compression) and so does LHA.
Both have some bugs, were LHA (being half-commercial) is faster and 
promises to be corrected sooner.

Cheers,

<CB>

re: .144, .145

I had no problems with any of the archives using LZ

john

>Which archives give you trouble?
XPR-ZSPEEDMODEM.LZH (it complains about lh5 compression)

    mark

Re: .147

I wonder how that happened...
Anyhow, a "real" .lzh archive (lh1 compression) has been put in place.

Don't forget to get LZ and LHA, you'll need them... ;-) 

Cheers,

<CB>

    I've gotten Amoner 3 (PD Amos Disk Mag.) off of ab20.
    It's in eot::amiga:[amiga.amos]amoner.dms
     It's self booting.
     I took it home and tested it, it runs fine under 1.3 with a fatter
    agnus.
     Under 2.0, it just seems to reboot the system, I didn't have a chance
    to explore it. 
     For those with 1.3 and no Fat Agnus, you'll have to edit the startup 
    sequence (expained in text file on disk) to keep it from trying to 
    boot up in pal.
    
    							Ed
    

For you Amiga Unix users, I've posted something kinda neat from Usenet
to EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]ADOS.UU

I wonder if it would compile under Minix...

enjoy!

john




Article 470 of alt.sources.amiga:
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From: ford@yoda.uucp (Mike "Ford" Ditto)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga,alt.sources.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: AmigaDOS emulator for Unix SVR4
Summary: amusing hack, works for some simple programs, could be extended
Keywords: source execute simple AmigaDOS programs
Message-ID: <114@yoda.uucp>
Date: 9 Jan 92 21:38:38 GMT
Reply-To: ford@yoda.uucp (Mike "Ford" Ditto)
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Here is an AmigaDOS emulator for Unix.  It's written for Amiga Unix
SVR4, but would probably work on any m68k SVR4 system.

To compile it, you need the AmigaDOS include files.  I used the
AmigaDOS 1.3 includes that came with a version of the Aztec C
Compiler.  Some tweaking may be required for other versions.

Before you get too excited, note that the program emulates a *very*
small subset of the Amiga operating environment.  It does not support
graphics at all.  It currently emulates enough of exec.library and
dos.library to allow the execution of simple text-only programs, the
same sort of program that can be run entirely in an AmigaDOS CON: CLI
or AUX: CLI.

For example, I have successfully used it to run the Aztec C Compiler
and related utilities under Unix and develop AmigaDOS programs from C
source, entirely under Unix.

Although it is useful for a fairly small set of tasks in its current
form, it is extensible, and could form the basis for a "real" AmigaDOS
emulator.  Basically, since I created the basic structure, I've been
implementing a new function whenever I try to execute a program that
fails because it needs that function.  In some cases, I implmented
only enough to get the program in question to run.

I haven't worked on it in a while, but I am familiar with the
code and would be willing to help anyone who wants to hack on it.

	Usage: arun [-v verbosity] amiga_program args ...

	-v1 allows the display of some warnings and other marginally
	useful information when invoking the program.

	-v2 adds to the above a message for every AmigaDOS library
	function called.

	The "args ..." are concatenated separated by spaces and
	passed to the AmigaDOS program.

	If any unimplemented library function is called, the program
	is aborted with a cryptic message.  The sorts of things that
	would cause the Amiga OS to "guru" will cause the process to
	dump core.


Here are some examples of using this program to execute AmigaDOS
versions of "date" and "tar" programs, both compiled with Aztec C:


Script started on Thu Jan  9 16:29:44 1992

ford@yoda> file date tar arun.tar
date:		AmigaDOS LoadSeg file
tar:		AmigaDOS LoadSeg file
arun.tar:	tar file

ford@yoda> arun date
Thu Jan  9 16:30:16  1992

ford@yoda> arun -v2 date
ExecBase = 0x80012af8
DOSBase = 0x80011cbc
&CurrentProcess = 0x80012d8c (&MsgPort=0x80012de8)
&CurrentProcess.pr_CLI = 0x80012e38 (offset 0xac)
Program entry at 0x8001349c
OpenLibrary(dos.library, 0)
AllocMem(0x78, 0x10000)
FindTask(0)
AllocMem(0x6, 0x0)
AllocMem(0x8, 0x0)
Input()
Output()
Open(*, 0x3ed)
OpenLibrary(environment, 0)
Building Manx environment
CloseLibrary(0x80002bb0)
AllocMem(0x14, 0x0)
DateStamp(0xc07ffc50)
OpenLibrary(environment, 0)
CloseLibrary(0x80002bb0)
AllocMem(0x14, 0x0)
OpenLibrary(environment, 0)
CloseLibrary(0x80002bb0)
AllocMem(0x14, 0x0)
AllocMem(0x408, 0x0)
IsInteractive(200043c8)
SetSignal(00000000, 00001000)
Write(0x200043c8, 0x80015dc0, 0x1a)
Thu Jan  9 16:30:24  1992
FreeMem(0x80015db8, 0x408)
Close(0x20004851)
FreeMem(0x80013008, 0x78)
FreeMem(0x800131ac, 0x14)
FreeMem(0x80013194, 0x14)
FreeMem(0x800130b0, 0x14)
FreeMem(0x80012e94, 0x6)
FreeMem(0x80012ea0, 0x8)
Program returned 0x0

ford@yoda> arun tar -tvf arun.tar
rw-r--r-- 42/10    181 Dec 25 20:43 1990 Makefile
rw-r--r-- 42/10    529 Dec 27 15:49 1990 amiga.c
rw-r--r-- 42/10    976 Dec 26 03:25 1990 arun.h
rw-r--r-- 42/10  10498 Jun 20 04:19 1991 dos.c
rw-r--r-- 42/10   4347 Jan  9 20:37 1992 exec.c
rw-r--r-- 42/10    420 Dec 25 20:43 1990 load.h
rw-r--r-- 42/10   4573 Dec 26 02:02 1990 loadseg.c
rw-r--r-- 42/10    653 Dec 25 20:43 1990 mkstubs
rw-r--r-- 42/10   2550 Jan  9 21:01 1992 run.c
rw-r--r-- 42/10    384 Dec 26 03:16 1990 runseg.s
rw-r--r-- 42/10  49013 Dec 25 20:44 1990 stubs.s
rw-r--r-- 42/10  18605 Dec 28 03:57 1990 unsupp.s

ford@yoda> exit

script done on Thu Jan  9 16:31:04 1992



I created this software and hereby submit it into the public domain.

				Have Fun!
					-=] Ford [=-

"Well, he didn't know what to do, so	(In Real Life:  Mike Ditto)
he decided to look at the government,	ford@yoda.uucp
to see what they did, and scale it	uunet!cbmvax!kenobi!ford
down and run his life that way." -- Laurie Anderson

    I was mistaken about the cost of BFJ's UPS Blue shipping.  It is
    FREE!  Here is their catalog.
    
    mark
    

	The Bars & Pipes Pro Demo is now uploaded, its LARGE !

	EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]B_P_PRO_DEMO.LZH

	There is an init icon that is supposed to set up the 
assignments.  You may have to hack around with the file "initialize" 
to get them right for your system.

	Reg

PS	re BFJ:	  I like their GVP 33MHz accel price {drool, slobber}

	Would someone with access to Compuserve or Genie  PLEASE  grab 
the demo of Super_Jam (Blue Ribbon Soundworks) and upload it ?

	R

WatchDrive uploaded to EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]

This is a small, simple program which detects when a disk is inserted,
then types out the volume name and number of free blocks on the disk.

Doc file included.

    2500Prefs.lzh copied to EOT::Amiga:[Upload]  This contains all possible
    output files for the different combinations of the PCPrefs program
    gadgets.  THe PCPrefs program is used for the Janus software on the
    Bridge Board.  This program does not run under Amiga dos 2.04 and any
    new owner of a bridge board and WB 2.04 would have a difficult time
    installing them.  Read the 250Prefs.TXT for more detailed information. 
    
    Also in note 1057.29 this conferance.
    
    Alan
    

    MultiPlayer115.lzh is now on EOT::.  I picked it up from ab20 via ftp. 
    I haven't tried it yet but the archive seems in tact.
    
    MultiPlayer V1.15 promises to be a player of music ``modules'' and
    claims to have new features not normally seen in module players.  Its
    grace that caused me to get it is that it supports 20+ formats and
    tries to support all new ones.  I'm no music person, just someone who
    wants to listen to the occasional sound so I like this.
    
    It also promises complete V1.3 and V2.0 support using V2.0 features
    when available.  You need arp.library if your using under V1.3 for the
    file requester.
    
    George
    

    For you Mayberry, RFD fans out there, check out the images in
    'mayberry.lzh' in EOT::[UPLOAD]
    
    -peter
    

I've uploaded LHA_E110.RUN, a self-extracting archive of the latest
LhA. Judging from this version, I'll register...

<CB>

Re. 158

I've replaced LHA_E110.RUN, with LHA_E111.RUN, fresh from ab20.
Also new is WINDOWTILER1_1.LZH an 2.04 WB Tool.

Cheers,

<CB>

The infamous modular screen saver I've been working on for far to long
now just went into release. The non-commercial version is now available
in eot::amiga:[upload]shadowmaster.lzh (and that's a stream_lf file!).

Requires 2.04.

	<mike