Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    
    Paul beat me to it... I DL'd SNAP and must agree that it's a great
    cut/past tool.  It's main advantage over Snipit is the ability to
    automatically adjust it's 'cut' zone to any character cell.  Snipit
    required the user to manually adjust the vertical offset to cut text
    from most VT-100 emulators.  SNAP does it automatically.
    
    SNAP also creates a cute 'crawling ant' outline around the highlighted
    text, as the Mac does.
    
    Ed.

    Does anyone know how this compares to Snap + .Snap + was on the
    last compute resource disk.I haven't had time to play with it yet,but
    I am curious as to how they differ.
    								bill
     

    The one I got (you guys are fast) was from Mikael Karlsson Aug 18, 1989
    Version 1.3.  What date/version  is on Snap+ ?.
    
    I like the ants
    
    Alan
    

DICKNS::USER:[MACDONALD.AMIGA.NEW]SNAP13.LZH is available.

    Does anyone have this in arc or zoo format? No offense but I like to
    use diskmaster to dearc. 

$ copy DICKNS::USER:[MACDONALD.AMIGA.NEW]SNAP13.LZH */log
%COPY-E-OPENIN, error opening DICKNS::USER:[MACDONALD.AMIGA.NEW]SNAP13.LZH; as i
nput
-RMS-E-FND, ACP file or directory lookup failed
-SYSTEM-F-INVLOGIN, login information invalid at remote node


Looks like your DECNET account is screwed up...

John

    
    Um, there was a freely distributable program called SNAP (Small Nodal
    Analysis Program) that simulated the time response of electrical
    circuits.  Is it possible that these two SNAPs are being confused?
    
    Ed.

>>    Does anyone have this in arc or zoo format? No offense but I like to
>>    use diskmaster to dearc. 

Why not add LHARC to DiskMaster like I did!
BTW, V1.0 of LHARC with everything everone has been asking for, should
be available this week.

    I checked,an snap+ is a screen grabber.It will grab screens with
    the menu button selected,allow you to cycle through intuition screens,
    and is said to handle all types of screens.
    
    >Why not add LHARC to DiskMaster like I did!
    	I dont have Diskmaster,or a hard drive.Long ago I reached the
    point where I have to sacrifice something off my workbench disk
    if I want to add another utility.This is AFTER I went to Arp to
    save space.While you may consider LHARC to be the new standard,at
    this time it accounts for a small percentage of files on the net.
    >>>BTW, V1.0 of LHARC with everything everone has been asking for,
    >>>should be available this week.
    Does this mean you will have it available to run on the VAX like
    arc,and zoo.
    								bill

    >Why not add LHARC to DiskMaster like I did!

>>    	I dont have Diskmaster,or a hard drive.Long ago I reached the
>>    point where I have to sacrifice something off my workbench disk
>>    if I want to add another utility.This is AFTER I went to Arp to
>>    save space.

My reply was not directed to you, but rather to the chap who indicated
he liked to use DiskMaster to deARC.

>>While you may consider LHARC to be the new standard,at
>>    this time it accounts for a small percentage of files on the net.

Hmmm ... I don't believe I ever said that it was a new standard. It
happens to compress more efficiently than anything else available. Time
is money. LHARC is also the "standard" being adopted by PLINK and
Compuserve. Time is money.

    >>>BTW, V1.0 of LHARC with everything everone has been asking for,
    >>>should be available this week.

>>    Does this mean you will have it available to run on the VAX like
>>    arc,and zoo.
  
Dunno what purpose that would serve 'cept maybe to allow viewing the doc
file! 

    I agree that we need a VMS version of LHARC, and -.1 has hit one of the
    reasons - to view the .doc files ; is it worth downloading? Another
    reason I have is to unpack/repack files. Because I have no access to a
    modem, I must download via 'sneakernet', i.e. VAX->Vaxmate carry the
    disk home, then PC->Amiga. This restricts the maximum downloadable
    single file size to about 700 blocks (360k disks on the PC). In order
    to download larger files (e.g. almost all of the fish disk archives -
    average size 800 - 1250 blocks) I must unpack the big file and re-pack
    into two or more smaller files. With Zoo and Arc, I can do so easily
    but with LHARC and WARP I can't. (In fact because the walker demo is
    a .WRP on the net I still haven't seen it....).
    
    					Alan T.

    
    Yes, snap is much nicer than snipit, but unfortunately it won't
    recognize the 16 point font I use in interlace mode.  It does
    recognize a fairly nice 11 point siesta font I picked up somewhere
    though.
    
    Thanks Paul.
    
    - steve
    
    BTW  Anybody have a larger siesta font (13-16 points).

    Paul,
    	In reference to your stating"Lharc is the new standard" I was
    refering back to note 2976.Sorry about any confusion.I also realize
    you were replying to another noter,didn't mean to interrupt the
    conversation,I ment to imply that many of us cannot adjust to LHarc
    as easily as some.I have to do my downloading at work to a single
    drive 1000.If I can I will try to get LHarc downloaded,and then
    I could change the Snap files to ARC format,and upload these to
    the net.
    							bill  

SNAP13.ZOO is at WJG::AMIGA:

John

    Thanks john...
    								bill

    I uploaded a new version of Snap to TAPE""::USER2:[UPLOAD]SNAP14.ZOO
    
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Submitted-by: micke@slaka.sirius.se (Mikael Karlsson)
Posting-number: Volume 90, Issue 062
Archive-name: util/snap-1.4/part01
 
Snap is the perfect tool for the lazy typer. Isn't it irritating when you
look at something on the screen and think: "That is what I'm going to type."?
What if you could just point at it and get the computer to type it for you?
That's where Snap comes to the rescue.  Another thing that irritates me is
that I'm sitting in front of THE computer and still I must have pen and paper
available to scribble down something from the screen that I know I will need
later. Snap provides a solution to that problem also. Just frame it and Snap
creates a window with a copy of the screen contents. Perfect for snapping
text from later on. 
 
Important changes:
 
o You can't use the new Snap to turn off the old version.
o Delays are now specified in milliseconds.
o You can now change parameters without removing and re-installing Snap.
o Use 'snap -Q'/'snap quit' to remove Snap.

     Does anyone have VirusX 4.0 working with SNAP? I see mr guru when
     snap attempts to load at the end of my startup-sequence. I haven't
     tried all the variations yet - I thought I'd ask before playing
     the PD-utility-swap-and-configure game. I have a vague recollection 
     that this was discussed somewhere, but I couldn't find it.
     Thanks in advance.
     Dave

    That combo works okay here.

I have tried to use Snap on several occasions and have never been able to get it
to do *anything*.  Does anyone know if it's incompatible with any of the
following?

	- GMC
	- PopCLI
	- QMouse

Am I correct in that all I have to do to get basic text cut/paste is:

	1> snap
	1>

	- move mouse pointer to start of text
	- hold down L-AMIGA and LMB
	- drag to enclose text
	- release LMB then L-AMIGA

	- move to paste point
	- press and hold L-AMIGA
	- press/release RMB

Is this sequence correct?  Should I be seeing an outline around "selected" text?

Thanks for any help!

    Re: -.1

    Your sequence is correct. One question. When you type 'snap' do you
    get the following?

    Snap 1.4 c 1990 Mikael Karlsson

    (where the c is the copyright symbol - the above pasted via snap,
    although the c was originally a ')' - lse's not too fond of the copyright
    symbol).

    I use snap and Qmouse all the time with no problems. Don't know about 
    the other tasks you listed.

    -Dom 

Re: .-1

Yes, I get the startup notice.  Should I be able to grab characters from a CLI
window?  How about a term window (I've tried VLTjr).  Should I see an outline
while grabbing characters?  I don't see anything, can't get anything to be
pasted.

    SNAP works with just about everything that uses standard fonts.
    I use it regularly with VLTJr. There are some qualifiers that can be
    used, which I do use (but I don't recall what they are since I run SNAP
    from my startup-sequence).
    
    There are a couple other SNAP clones that were built from SNAP's code.
    One is OSNAP. Another is POWERSNAP. You might try either of those. It
    just occurred to me .. do you have clipboard.device in your devs:
    directory?
    
    Also, is there a handler for SNAP?

    The only problem I've had with Snap is that it "snaps" about
    10 lines above what I want to cut in a "MuchMore" screen.  Other than
    that It works fine with everything I run, even Pen Pal.  I start it,
    with no qualifiers, in my startup file.  No help, just an affirmation.
    
    md
    

I find snap will not work with certain fonts.

john

I use SNAP with VLTjr all the time.  I use the default fonts in VLT and Pearl in
my CLI windows.  Yes you should see an outline that follows these rules:

	LAMIGA + LMB press and hold - drag a dashed outline the test
	LAMIGA + LMB 1 quick press  - select character under pointer
	LAMIGA + LMB 2 quick press  - select word under pointer
	LAMIGA + LMB 3 quick press  - select line under pointer
	LAMIGA + RMB 1 quick press  - paste selected text

I'm running DJclock instead Qmouse which gives both mouse control, blanking and
POPcli functionality.  What is GMC?  I suggest you try SNAP with you other
PDutilities turned off to isolate the offending one.  I'd suspect perhaps you
Qmouse setup may be interfering with mouse button presses.


Cheers,

...Ed

One thing to remember.  SNAP aligns it self based on where you first press
down the mouse button.  So you should press near an easily recognizable
character.  Starting selection in a blank area is not a good idea.  Also
starting selection on some less interesting characters like period can
cause problems with some fonts.

-steve

    
    One bug in SNAP that bothers me is if I am outlining a sentence and the
    cursor accidently bumps up to the previous line, I have to start again.
    Why can't the start of the select point always be at the location of
    the LAMIGA/LMB click?

The version of snap that I use with VLTjr defaults to a paste key sequence of:
Left-Amiga/I  ('I' for insert).  I believe this can be redefined with a 
command line option.

-Peter

    Yes, you can redefine the paste key sequence. I use Left-Amiga Y (and
    compose-Y under X :-).
    
    However, I find that SNAP dies regularly when I close a snapped
    graphics window. This started happening with KS 37.?? on the 3000.
    Anyone else running that have this problem? How about those using the
    various things based on SNAP?
    
    	Thanx,
    	<mike
    

    Here's how I execute SNAP from my startup-sequence:
    
    SNAP -c20 -r -u1
    

    SNAP v1.61 uploaded to TAPE::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]SNAP_161.ZOO