Conference 7.286::digital

    One bright morning in the middle of the night
    Two dead boys, started a fight.
    Back to back, they faced each other.
    Drew their swords, and shot one another.
    
    A deaf policeman heard the noise
    Came and killed the two dead boys
    Now if you don't believe my story is true
    Just ask the blind man, 'cause he saw it too!
    
    
    (Hell, thought it'd make as much sense as the base note)

    In fact, Paul Mccartny emerged from his grave today and announced that
    NT was still alive, but he was dead.  Bob Palmer gave him a t-shirt and
    a docking station and escorted him back to his grave.
    
    ken b.

    
                MANY WORKMEN
                     by
                Steven Crane
    
         Many workmen
         Built a huge ball of masonry
         Upon a mountaintop.
         Then they went to the valley below,
         And turned to behold their work.
         "It is grand," they said;
         They loved the thing.
    
         Of a sudden, it moved:
         It came upon them swiftly;
         It crushed them all to blood.
         But some had opportunity to squeal.
    

    Hmmmm .....
    
    change "huge ball of masonry" to VAX9000 ...

Nit: I think it's Stephen Crane.

    To be honest I don't see that Digital UNIX, OpenVMS VAX or AXP or even
    the (hardly born) MicroSoft Windows NT is ready for the grave.    I guess 
    this is true for our RSX/RSTS, etc operating environments as we still
    sell these don't we?
    
    Whatever operating system ends up with the lions share is probably a
    more realistic question in my opinion.   The fact that AXPs will
    boot these operating systems is goood.
    
    I am starting to feel that alot of people in this industry are to
    much of a "binary brain" - things (operating systems) are not 
    necessarily dead or alive but somewhere in between depending on
    the market segment, how much Digital wants to expend for development
    etc... 

    re .-1 Hey - we don't have room for serious replies in this note.
    get funny or shut up. :-)
    
    ken b

    I'm hoping the moderators will see that 4023.7 is not in keeping with
    the basenote and:
    
    	* set the note hidden
    
    	* set the node hidden
    
    	* hose the noter down with Prozac
    
    Thank you.
    
    								Tex

    
    Tex,
    
    	The coming weekend is coming none to soon for you, good buddy.
    
    	BTW, Windows NT is getting a new name - Bob's Excellent Adventure;
    or BEA.
    
    		the Greyhawk_who_also_needs_two_days_off

    Well, I might be a binary brained quantum physicist wannabe, but I
    thought .7 WAS sort of funny, particularly "things... are not
    necessarily dead or alive but somewhere in between".  Maybe we should
    name one of our O/Ss "Schrodinger's Cat".  Yeah, and we can call the
    others "Wave" and "Particle"...
    
    Apologies to the mystified, and to real quantum physicists,
    Chuck

    Now, I *do* like that!
    
    "Announcing Digital's new SC (Schrodinger's Cat) Operating System. 
    Completely portable, it will run on any hardware.  The only problem is
    that you have to remove and dissect the motherboard to see if it's
    really installed."
    
    A little Dirk Gently in us all, 'eh?

    Your command might have worked. Then again it may not. You'll get to
    find out sooner or later (or if you don't, it didn't matter anyway).

>    Your command might have worked. Then again it may not. You'll get to
>    find out sooner or later (or if you don't, it didn't matter anyway).

	I think you have a basic misunderstanding of this operating 
	system.  It is not the situation that the command either did or
	did not work and you simply don't know which; it is that the command
	is in neither state until you look at it.

	Right now, we're having a lot of problems with the SC batch system.
	Batch jobs run ok as long as someone's watching the job status
	display, but overnight runs never seem to complete...

 
>         Right now, we're having a lot of problems with the SC batch system.
>         Batch jobs run ok as long as someone's watching the job status
>         display, but overnight runs never seem to complete...
> 

Perhaps the jobs are tunnelling out of the queues?

    Maybe there is a necessary component missing : The IBM operator.....
    :-)

>	Right now, we're having a lot of problems with the SC batch system.
>	Batch jobs run ok as long as someone's watching the job status
>	display, but overnight runs never seem to complete...
    
    ROTFL!!!!!!  Thanks!
    
    							Tex

    maybe closer to the subject:
    
    Back in the late 70's & the 80's, the industry ws bemoaning the fact
    that IBM was becoming too large for the market, and strong alternatives
    were needed.  Digital brought along VAX and VMS, and the market loved
    the IBM alternative.  Other's like HP, etc. came along for the ride as
    well.
    
    Now we are getting to the late 90's and we are beginning to hear that
    Microsoft is becoming too large for the market, and lots of concerns
    about a single company and O/S dominating the industry.
    
    So what's the new alternative that wil pop up in the late 90's and 
    early in the 2000's (can't figure out what to call this period).  Is 
    it HP with their Intel agreement for a new 64-bit platform and O/S?
    Is it SUN with a new 64-bit O/S?  Is it Taligent?  Is it a next-
    generation of UNIX or NT?  Is it anything that Digital can be part of?
    
    Mark
    

Mark:

> Is it HP with their Intel agreement for a new 64-bit platform and O/S?
> Is it SUN with a new 64-bit O/S?  Is it Taligent?  Is it a next-
> generation of UNIX or NT?  Is it anything that Digital can be part of?

  It ain't Taligent. They've given up on their operating systems
  efforts, and are now concentrating solely on their O/O toolset.

                                   Atlant

    Well, what goes around comes around, had a request on friday for a
    PDP11/94 and RT-11, more $$$'s for Digital - that's what it takes -
    giving the customer what he wants...pays our salaries with or without
    raises.
    
    Steve.

    Hmmmph, getting to serious again.  I understand that with the SC system
    it's not What You See is What you Get. It's What You See is ALL That
    You Get.
    
    ken b

    The SC system guarantees that what you don't see provides twice the
    performance.

.19>    So what's the new alternative that wil pop up in the late 90's and 
.19>    early in the 2000's (can't figure out what to call this period).

.20>  It ain't Taligent. They've given up on their operating systems
.20>  efforts, and are now concentrating solely on their O/O toolset.


Isn't it obvious that the early 2000's need an "OO" environment?