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3192.1 | Lost without trace | CHEFS::RAMSEYA | | Wed Jun 22 1994 11:30 | 10 |
| Well hello there,
I used to enjoy reading your notes on OZ (you seem to have changed your
style a little). Can you tell me where I can find the OZ notes
conference these days? I somehow managed to lose it.
Good luck with your new role as CEO!!
Regards
Ann
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3192.2 | | GUCCI::RWARRENFELTZ | Follow the Money! | Wed Jun 22 1994 11:47 | 2 |
| ...personally, it's a job I wouldn't touch with the proverbial 10'
pole!
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3192.3 | New pay scale | MRKTNG::L_MOORE | Linda Moore @MKO | Wed Jun 22 1994 12:27 | 7 |
| I liked Ben & Jerry's former rule about the top person not making more
than 7 times as much as the lowest paid person. That would mean that
either secretaries would make a more respectable salary, and/or the
CEO's salary would be more reasonable. Boy would you see attrition
then! We'd be down to 65,000 employees in no time!
Linda
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3192.4 | Or the other way around. | HLDE01::HEIRBAUT_R | You are allmost welcome ! | Wed Jun 22 1994 12:57 | 8 |
| re .3
Or you pay the least payed person not less that 1/7th of the topsalary.
For most people, this would be most attractive (I guess, since I do not
the top nor the bottom salary). At least it kills the company within
reasonable time...
Ronald
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3192.5 | | RULE62::kh | If I had it to do all over again... | Wed Jun 22 1994 13:07 | 10 |
| Re .4
> ... At least it kills the company within
> reasonable time...
Ben and Jerry's seems to be doing pretty well with this guideline. Of
course, it also helps that they have a great product line that people
want and have a sense of humor about their importance.
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3192.6 | | POCUS::OHARA | Reverend Middleware | Wed Jun 22 1994 13:10 | 1 |
| FWIW, B&G is going to disregard the 7-1 rule when they hire a "real" CEO.
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3192.7 | Ben & Jerry's Reneging on Democratic Pay Scale | BRAT::CARLTON | | Wed Jun 22 1994 13:15 | 12 |
| Ben & Jerry's has announced (in conjunction with the stepping down of
Ben Cohen from day to day responsibilities) that it will dispose of
their 7 to 1 pay rule from top to bottom. They are doing this to
attract the best candidate to replace Cohen for President. In the
press release, they said they wanted someone with a very strong
business executive background. Personally, I think they're making a
mistake. They could attract quality candidates by keeping the 7 to 1
rule but allowing for stock options, profit sharing, bonuses, etc. that
could offer the needed $ incentives. Not to mention the unique quality
of work/life that this job would offer.
My $.02 worth...
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3192.8 | | RULE62::kh | If I had it to do all over again... | Wed Jun 22 1994 13:35 | 12 |
| Re .7
That's discouraging news. There are plenty of ordinary companies
making good products. B&J's was something of an extra-ordinary
company. So, too, was Digital.
The lesson for Digital, though, is that special qualities are truly
corporate assets. The quality of the work environment, the integrity
and good humor of the management staff: that makes a difference to
both employees and customers.
One more reason to stay away from ice cream, I guess.
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3192.9 | | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, Central PSC, Birmingham UK | Wed Jun 22 1994 14:08 | 10 |
| Funnily enough B&J were on the Breakfast News at 6:30 this morning, and
it was the first time that i had heard of them.
The thing that caught my attention was two rather scruffy clad men being
interviewed by the suited news presenters. When (repeatedly) pressed as to
why their product was a success (they were guzzling ice cream at the
time) on of them said "'cos it's good sh*t", followed by a very rapid
cut to a taped article.
Small world innit?
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3192.10 | Sleight of hand... | STAR::BUDA | I am the NRA | Wed Jun 22 1994 14:29 | 9 |
| RE: Note 3192.3 by MRKTNG::L_MOORE
> I liked Ben & Jerry's former rule about the top person not making more
> than 7 times as much as the lowest paid person. That would mean that
It's good PR hype. B&J have MANY other ways of getting money from their company
(Stock options, bonus's, etc.). They get their money -- one way or another.
- mark
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3192.11 | history | NUBOAT::HEBERT | Captain Bligh | Wed Jun 22 1994 15:01 | 3 |
| B & J was in the news just this week - they're changing that 7x policy
because "they weren't attracting top management talent."
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3192.12 | But what about their search method! Wonderfully refreshing! | MUNCH::FRANCINI | I'd like to teach the world to ping... | Wed Jun 22 1994 17:48 | 17 |
| It's a contest.
They want applicants to write a 100-word essay on "Why I'd Make a Good President
of Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream".
Grand prize: The Job.
1st Prize: Supply of ice-cream for a year
Other prizes: Ice cream, logo merchandise, etc.
Not too shabby for them...
John
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3192.13 | I know *I* would eat too much ... | TPSYS::LAING | Soft-Core Cuddler * TAY1-2/H9 * 227-4472 | Wed Jun 22 1994 19:28 | 5 |
| Did that 1st prize include free liposuction after the year of
eating ice cream?
:-)
Jim
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3192.14 | | PHAROS::ELLIOTT | | Thu Jun 23 1994 15:30 | 15 |
|
re. 8 Special qualities
I read an article on B&J that said that when it was just the two of
them, Jerry was making the icecream and asked Ben for his opinion. Ben
had such bad sinuses he couldn't distinguish the variations. So, Jerry
added lots of stuff to the icecream so Ben could figure it out. I
thought about this afterwards and thought about how many people, in
Jerry's position, would have done the same thing. Other people might
have thought this guy is a loser and doesn't belong in the icecream
business if he can't TASTE anything or replaced Ben with a panel of
tasters. Instead, Jerry worked with it and stumbled on what was going
to be the key to their success. It's called loyalty.
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3192.15 | | GIDDAY::SETHI | Better to ask a question than remain ignorant | Fri Jun 24 1994 04:59 | 25 |
| Hi Ann,
>Good luck with your new role as CEO!!
Just call me Sir from now on-wards :-).
>I used to enjoy reading your notes on OZ (you seem to have changed your
>style a little). Can you tell me where I can find the OZ notes
>conference these days? I somehow managed to lose it.
I had to change my style I am a budding CEO. It's been listed in
EASYNOTES, I can't remember (traces of Ronnie Ragan).
Well this topic was opened in tongue in cheek as there seems to be a
lot of what's happening or we should do this that or the other. I
guess there is no way out of this mess apart from swallowing the bitter
pill.
But mind you I am still open to the offer of expanding my career
opportunities, why aim for something less then becoming a CEO ? I
better go an check out those Job Notices that Samantha sends out .....
Your friendly budding CEO from downunder,
Sunil
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3192.16 | redefine down to be up ? | REGENT::BLOCHER | | Fri Jun 24 1994 16:04 | 2 |
| Perhaps a CEO from downunder could turn things right-side-up again.
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